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currymee
30-01-2010, 08:46 AM
Anybody here got a sticky gas pedal? Better go check whether your car is really - Made-in-Japan - so far the only version, I read in online news that are free of sticky pedal recalls. Maybe UMW can tell us, where the Toyotas and Lexus sold in Msia are made and the pedal compenents from where - other wise I will freak out whenever a Toyota or Lexus is behind my MyVi - in case my ass gets kissed !!! :D

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-news/158797-no-recall-issue-umw-toyota-assures.html

tupai
30-01-2010, 01:03 PM
HHAHAHAHHA..bolehland always get the 100% perfect vehicles!

USA and kwi-loh countries are 10000% more safety conscious than the m'sian gomen.

Honestly, u tell me how many models/makes had been recalled in bolehland...many defects were/are just quietly kept hidden away/buat xtahu or tutup satu mata...and when too many had surfaced, they will quietly recall the defective vehicle/s and spin it into a 'we are customer oriented company blahblahblah"

...remember the perdana dunno steering rod or was it ball-joints case. Only Allah knows how many perdana had crashed and how many drivers/families had died due to this defect :eek:

Buy anything with care...We bought a camry last year...hope it is not the samosamo pedal. :( :eek: :eek:


Yang Bo-konfiden dgn blehland QC latotupai :mad:

Sentinel
30-01-2010, 02:36 PM
Anybody here got a sticky gas pedal? Better go check whether your car is really - Made-in-Japan - so far the only version, I read in online news that are free of sticky pedal recalls. Maybe UMW can tell us, where the Toyotas and Lexus sold in Msia are made and the pedal compenents from where - other wise I will freak out whenever a Toyota or Lexus is behind my MyVi - in case my ass gets kissed !!! :D

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-news/158797-no-recall-issue-umw-toyota-assures.html
Toyotas in the region are assembled in Thailand and not affected. Coclusion : That shows Thai quality better than those in the US. :D

bslee
30-01-2010, 02:47 PM
Toyotas in the region are assembled in Thailand and not affected. Coclusion : That shows Thai quality better than those in the US. :D

I'm quite sure many car components are made to some specification by manufacturer but its anyone's guess or confident that it may or will be still different in build quality from those fitted for USA assembled or Asian assembled cars. I could say a Toyota air conditioner sourced from Nippon Denso Made in Bangi is NOT the same as those fitted in a US assembled Toyota.
Anyway, USA Toyota LH drive car may have different accelerator and brake pedal mechanism and linkage compared to Asian RH Drive models. In short, different market, different parts are implemented, different problems may arise from flaw or design. Nothing's perfect.

BTW, on another note, I was evaluating a Perodua Alza the other day and I find the engine build quality is somewhat much inferior to the MyVi. (engine cc disregarded). I suspect much cost reduction in some parts visually seen.
There's tell tale signs to my trained eye that I form this opinion.

cskok8
30-01-2010, 04:18 PM
Now Honda is recalling some cars because of possible power window defect. Of course in Malaysia there is no such problem. In fact for some models it is a design feature. :D

bslee
30-01-2010, 04:28 PM
Now Honda is recalling some cars because of possible power window defect. Of course in Malaysia there is no such problem. In fact for some models it is a design feature. :D

Hahahaha... I bet Proton owners would luv to hear that.. power window failure WAS STANDARD FAILURE NORMALY!

Sentinel
31-01-2010, 02:15 AM
Hahahaha... I bet Proton owners would luv to hear that.. power window failure WAS STANDARD FAILURE NORMALY!
Wrong... failure power window is a standard accessory with Proton, if it doesn't fail then it just ain't a Proton!

currymee
31-01-2010, 05:27 AM
Wrong... failure power window is a standard accessory with Proton, if it doesn't fail then it just ain't a Proton!

It cost me so much in the past to keep replacing the jammed gears and cables. Now, I open my door to use Touch n Go :mad: :mad: :mad:

currymee
31-01-2010, 05:31 AM
AIya-ya ya ..... Now PSA Peugeot Citroen Recalls Autos Made With Toyota - aiya ..... Toyota also JV with Perodua to make MyVi ..... we wait with abated breath !!! :eek:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFLKiaHJxRMo&pos=5

Hiliary
31-01-2010, 09:58 AM
Wrong... failure power window is a standard accessory with Proton, if it doesn't fail then it just ain't a Proton!

Slacking the screw in the arm rest by two turns was enough to cure my Perdana's electric window problems :D

110,000+ kilometers without any cost except normal service. Best Perdana ever :D

bzxiao
31-01-2010, 11:16 AM
It cost me so much in the past to keep replacing the jammed gears and cables. Now, I open my door to use Touch n Go :mad: :mad: :mad:

Same too!! :mad:

bslee
31-01-2010, 11:39 AM
I really have sympathy for my sis in law owning that local model with a French engineering background or identity. Serious problems after a few months. Within 6 months, whole cooling system kaput, rendering the engine in total overhaul and half the engine replaced parts, 2 years later, engine oil leaked seriously from sump pan area loosing a lot of lubricant then a month later on the whole ignition system electronic block failed costing more than half a grand to replace. Thats Potong for you all! TOLD HER NOT to buy.. but insisted...some patriotism I guess?.. Moreover happened to be a bad lemon and a very bad decision considering ITS NOT A CHEAP CAR!.. RM FORTY+ grand car and THIS IS WHAT CAN HAPPEN!

I read somewhere that 1st batch ignition block modules can fail anytime up to 2 years but was quietly improved later on. No recalls on flawed products if any..you buy, you risk, you pay for THEIR flaws if any.

currymee
03-02-2010, 08:36 AM
Wah - getting really SERIOUS in USA on Toyota - Toyota owners better read - if it is electronics, then all cars will be the same worldwide !! :eek:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aw7ubiN5ixng&pos=2

Sentinel
03-02-2010, 02:09 PM
Why not look at the Toyota recall from a positive light? That the company was willing to divulge the problem publicly, take responsibility, suffer financial losses and embarassment etc to actually want to rectify the problem. They lost 7% of their NAV in the Tokyo Stock Exchange and thats billions!

Remember me whacking UMW Toyota in the past? In this case, I think I will support a recall as long as they rectify the problem.

Will Proton recall their cars to rectify the power windows? They don't even want to admit they have a problem. :mad:

My wife is driving the new model Camry 2.4V and its about 2 years - I am worried too. But if Toyota has not announced worldwide, then I wouldn't have known about it and ignorance is bliss, they say... is that what we want?

I have evn sat down with her in her stationary car and taught her what to do in case the accelerator jams and refuse to return back to its original position when she lifts her leg from it... stay cool, push the gear lever to N and brake consistently... and pull to the side and call for help from AAM etc.... (I am assuming its the sticky accelrator problem lah...)

chin_wan
03-02-2010, 02:36 PM
Come on la people. If you read the news properly, you will notice that the problem is only from 1, yes, ONE, single supplier from the US.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_on_bi_ge/us_toyota_recall


Hanson added that all of the vehicles involved in the latest recall contain a gas pedal system that comes from a single supplier. He declined to identify the supplier or say whether Toyota would continue doing business with the supplier.

jimmyay
03-02-2010, 02:40 PM
Mine is an old Toyota, so no worries.

QuietStorm
03-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Mine is an old Toyota, so no worries.Mine is not a Toyota, so absolutely no worries ! :p

Feynman
03-02-2010, 04:44 PM
[SIZE=4][FONT=Arial Narrow]Why not look at the Toyota recall from a positive light? That the company was willing to divulge the problem publicly, take responsibility, suffer financial losses and embarassment etc to actually want to rectify the problem. They lost 7% of their NAV in the Tokyo Stock Exchange and thats billions!

Toyota was not exactly willing to recall the faulty cars. It was the US government pressure that resulted in the recall.
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2010/02/02/toyota-january-sales.html

Sentinel
03-02-2010, 05:52 PM
Toyota was not exactly willing to recall the faulty cars. It was the US government pressure that resulted in the recall.
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2010/02/02/toyota-january-sales.htmlYes, I know that but thats only for the US market, Toyota recalls Europe and some Australasian markets too...

tupai
03-02-2010, 06:00 PM
Bolehland do not have a history of recalling defctive vehicles (doesnt matter the makes, local or imported)...the gomen do not have international standard QC and car manufacturers/brand owners can get with with murder literally.

Take for e.g. the perdana ball joint? steering bush? thingy...how many accidents had happened becos of this defect? No1 knows...how many killed/injured when this important part failed, resulting in accidents?

I am seriously scared if the accelerator can jammed..imagine the surge or imagine if it was downhill genting stretch? :eek: :eek:

Yang Blur pucat latotupai :eek:

mick123
03-02-2010, 07:09 PM
got lah.....mine and wifey's cars were recalled due to defects......so there are still honest non-1st and non-2nd national car manufacturers out there ;)

Hiliary
04-02-2010, 08:05 AM
This no longer sounds like something isolated, it's spreading daily.
From the BBC website: The seven models being recalled are the Aygo, iQ, Yaris, Auris, Corolla, Verso, and Avensis and cover manufacturing dates going back to February 2005.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8497128.stm

Rhiga
04-02-2010, 11:01 AM
Bolehland do not have a history of recalling defctive vehicles (doesnt matter the makes, local or imported)...the gomen do not have international standard QC and car manufacturers/brand owners can get with with murder literally.

I agreed with you, Lato.

But the funny things is – there is an old woman of MAA (Malaysian Motor Association) said in Sin Jew that recall is a very normal thing, like she had experiences or withnessed numerous recalls in Malaysia before......

Sentinel
04-02-2010, 01:07 PM
It is done on a very low-keyed basis Sagamihara-san. My wife's previous Altis (car-jacked back in 2002) was recalled back for a change of some rubber mouldings at the engine compartment. They just send a letter and give you a few places, dates, where you can bring in your car for the change. Just an hour, kau tim!

currymee
05-02-2010, 09:51 PM
Now it is possible that Prius is next ..... luckily I have not bought it yet ... was thinking about getting one for my birthday :D

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35247453

Sentinel
05-02-2010, 10:39 PM
Now it is possible that Prius is next ..... luckily I have not bought it yet ... was thinking about getting one for my birthday :D

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35247453Why do you even bother to consider a Toyota since you seem so worried about all the incidents of this recall exercise. Might as well buy yourself another make and sleep peacefully...

currymee
05-02-2010, 10:53 PM
Why do you even bother to consider a Toyota since you seem so worried about all the incidents of this recall exercise. Might as well buy yourself another make and sleep peacefully...

Well, Toyota tops the list of my short-list, now it is back to square-one in terms of car evaluation .... :(

USJ27Resident
05-02-2010, 10:53 PM
Why do you even bother to consider a Toyota since you seem so worried about all the incidents of this recall exercise. Might as well buy yourself another make and sleep peacefully...

heheheee.... currymee shud then consider the Mitsubishi rebadged (clones?) marques instead....

if I am not mistaken, Toyota once had a recall for the steering column on certain make/year for the Wish... UMW Toyota replaced the defective part FOC for all affected Wish - INCLUDING those bought from the 'grey importers' (aka AP outlets!)...

IMHO... I'd rather have car manufacturers (likes of Toyota) admit to the defects and getting them replaced instead of manufacturers keeping quiet and blaming God for 'acts of God' incidents.... betul tak!!

currymee
05-02-2010, 10:58 PM
heheheee.... currymee shud then consider the Mitsubishi rebadged (clones?) marques instead....

I am driving such a clone :p - the last model that uses the original Mitusbishi engine and gearbox ... after that nothing doing .... heard too many reliability problems. My other car is a MyVi - again a Daihastsu (aka Toyota) make. Was thinking of replacing the clone within a couple of years ... and Toyota fills the list .... now, monitoring to see what is going on ... Prius was top choice followed by Corolla ...

Sentinel
05-02-2010, 11:12 PM
My wife has never owned any other cars other than Toyotas. USJ27Resident can testify to that. She had a Corolla 1.6SEG, then the Altis, then the Camrys (3 different models incl the latest one now) and I have walloped UMW Toyota blue black until they called for a table talk... and I will still get a Toyota for her.

We have had 2 incidents of recall - a rubber mould for the engine compartment for the Altis and another small parts change for the steering rod for the 2.2 Camry. All done quietly with letters and then followed up by phone calls.

I am now driving a Pajero 3500 2 door sports and I know this model have problem with the tie-rod in Japan and until today no one from Mitsubishi has called me. Is there a Mitsubishi office even in Malaysia?

Sentinel
06-02-2010, 12:13 AM
If I have the money, I will bank on the Toyota shares as it has plunged 20% since the reacll crisis. Long term, I still think Toyota will come out stronger from this crisis. Read more HERE. (http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/52149-toyota-chief-breaks-silence)

currymee
06-02-2010, 08:43 AM
If I have the money, I will bank on the Toyota shares as it has plunged 20% since the reacll crisis. Long term, I still think Toyota will come out stronger from this crisis. Read more HERE. (http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/52149-toyota-chief-breaks-silence)

I was thinking the same thing also as an investor :) - but as a future car buyer, I think I better wait :p

Sentinel
06-02-2010, 02:52 PM
I was thinking the same thing also as an investor :) - but as a future car buyer, I think I better wait :pDon't wait... in fact in your case, don't buy Toyota. You will sleep better because reading what you wrote and searching all the links about it, better go buy a Naza car....

currymee
06-02-2010, 05:22 PM
Don't wait... in fact in your case, don't buy Toyota. You will sleep better because reading what you wrote and searching all the links about it, better go buy a Naza car....

Hahaha .... I am, unfortunately, a person who likes to know as much as possible about what I am about to purchase esp big ticket items - good, bad, cons, warts and all .... :D In fact, the more bad news, the better, so I know what to expect with eyes wide open !! :D My next car is definitley non-National .... the national cars has already run its course ... I have lost all faith liow !! But, I will take your posts as a vote-of-confidence for Toyota in terms of after-sales services - they sound a hell lot better than many others and more responsible - a PLUS POINT !! :D

USJ27Resident
06-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Hahaha .... But, I will take your posts as a vote-of-confidence for Toyota in terms of after-sales services - they sound a hell lot better than many others and more responsible - a PLUS POINT !! :D

better than what I kena from Proton Glenmarie....

had tried to call them the whole morning to make a service appointment,... the phone was picked up and cut off (put down) upteen times... I thought it was the phone's fault or something to that extent... till I got there... I walked it, and called that service number - and saw with my own eyes - the operator pick up the phone and put it back down... :mad:

Guess what I did.... :p I walked over to the Admin building and took Donald Choo - their director, over to the service side and told him to call the number... and man, did he FLIPPED... :D

For an instance, I thought the telephone operator was gonna have a heart attack... :eek: :p Yup, I can be mean too !!!

bslee
06-02-2010, 06:30 PM
better than what I kena from Proton Glenmarie....

had tried to call them the whole morning to make a service appointment,... the phone was picked up and cut off (put down) upteen times

I'm happy with that USJ Perodua SC (2 doors away from that hypermart) , one phone call a few days before the next Tuesday which I wanted to send in my car. Send in 2pm, 3.15pm paid and collect the car. There's a board in the service area, 1hour service or its FOC. Send on a weekday, just perfect.
OTH, I think this is P2's newest SC around here and ideal workshop facilities up to standards, unlike other SC's which look terrible, perhaps even worse than Ah Chong Ah Kow workshop.

Hiliary
06-02-2010, 11:33 PM
better than what I kena from Proton Glenmarie....

had tried to call them the whole morning to make a service appointment,... the phone was picked up and cut off (put down) upteen times... I thought it was the phone's fault or something to that extent... till I got there... I walked it, and called that service number - and saw with my own eyes - the operator pick up the phone and put it back down... :mad:

Guess what I did.... :p I walked over to the Admin building and took Donald Choo - their director, over to the service side and told him to call the number... and man, did he FLIPPED... :D

For an instance, I thought the telephone operator was gonna have a heart attack... :eek: :p Yup, I can be mean too !!!

Well done. I must remember this, what a perfect way to handle it!

Sentinel
07-02-2010, 12:08 PM
Hahaha .... I am, unfortunately, a person who likes to know as much as possible about what I am about to purchase esp big ticket items - good, bad, cons, warts and all .... :D In fact, the more bad news, the better, so I know what to expect with eyes wide open !! :D My next car is definitley non-National .... the national cars has already run its course ... I have lost all faith liow !! But, I will take your posts as a vote-of-confidence for Toyota in terms of after-sales services - they sound a hell lot better than many others and more responsible - a PLUS POINT !! :D
Please.... listen to me... in your case please don't buy a Toyota, it will give you sleepless night. Nissan and Mitsubishi and Naza and Proton and Peugeot and Porsche and Volkswagen and.... all no recall and no problem, go buy one but please do not buy a Toyota.

Sentinel
07-02-2010, 12:13 PM
I am just thinking about how difficult life would be in the next 6 months or so for my friends out there doing corporate training in The Toyota Management System (TMS) method of TQM. Aiyoyo... with this worldwide high-profile recall, I guess the reputation of the TQM program will be dented in some ways. Marketing the program would be difficult and conducting the training program would raise some doubts from participants. John, Wahab and Naidoo, you have my sympathies... hang on there, it will blow over soon enough.

Rhiga
08-02-2010, 10:40 AM
If I have the money, I will bank on the Toyota shares as it has plunged 20% since the reacll crisis. Long term, I still think Toyota will come out stronger from this crisis. Read more HERE. (http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/52149-toyota-chief-breaks-silence)

Bro,

For curiosity sake, I am interested to know how to buy shares in foreign stock exchanges for example, Singapore, China, Vietnam.

I mean buying as an individual investor, not the type linked to unit trust investment recommended by those blur-blur half-tank private banking staff.

Thanks

Sentinel
08-02-2010, 03:34 PM
Bro,

For curiosity sake, I am interested to know how to buy shares in foreign stock exchanges for example, Singapore, China, Vietnam.

I mean buying as an individual investor, not the type linked to unit trust investment recommended by those blur-blur half-tank private banking staff.

ThanksTalk to your local remisier, they would be able to recommend you on how to start an account for trading in a certain stock exchange. They also have jalan to a foreign remisier. :D

chewie
10-02-2010, 01:37 PM
better than what I kena from Proton Glenmarie....

had tried to call them the whole morning to make a service appointment,... the phone was picked up and cut off (put down) upteen times... I thought it was the phone's fault or something to that extent... till I got there... I walked it, and called that service number - and saw with my own eyes - the operator pick up the phone and put it back down... :mad:

Guess what I did.... :p I walked over to the Admin building and took Donald Choo - their director, over to the service side and told him to call the number... and man, did he FLIPPED... :D

For an instance, I thought the telephone operator was gonna have a heart attack... :eek: :p Yup, I can be mean too !!!

what did Donald Choo did then ??

tupai
10-02-2010, 02:06 PM
what did Donald Choo did then ??

"and man, did he FLIPPED... " and probably do nuthin lah...corporate man (director sumore :eek: ) cannot be the hatchet man.

Donald should engage me to be his consultant. Given me a free right hand (holding a hatchet) ,I will improve the counter and tele-service level up a few notches. OR money back guarantee! Betcha toyota Xbrani! HAhHAHAHAHA!

Yang Berani put money in mulut latotupai :p

Sentinel
11-02-2010, 03:02 PM
Strange nobody talks about HONDA doing a recall wordwide which was in The Star Business today... looks like Currymee also cannot buy Honda now too.

jimmyay
25-02-2010, 02:21 PM
Though Toyota chief is blasted left, right, up & bottom...shares of Toyota traded on the New York Stock Exchange rose steadily Wednesday as Toyoda testified, closing up 4 percent.

When is the time to buy the shares?

usehead
25-02-2010, 02:24 PM
Local cars better?

currymee
25-02-2010, 02:25 PM
Strange nobody talks about HONDA doing a recall wordwide which was in The Star Business today... looks like Currymee also cannot buy Honda now too.

Ya-lor, I think I will stop thinking about buying any new car until 2012/13 - hopefully, QC will return by then !!! :p

Rhiga
25-02-2010, 02:53 PM
The Toyota recall has been in the headline news worldwide. The amount of coverage by the US media especially the US TV3 (CNN) has reached a stage that unless you don’t switch on the TV, otherwise it is impossible to escape listening to the news about the recall, the follow-up of the recall, the origin of the recall, what is going to happens next after the recall, etc, etc, etc, etc.

The congressional hearing to “blast” Akio Toyota is a pre-meditated move. The hawks in the white house and the US car manufacturer-funded politicians will not waste such golden opportunities to express their egoistic points.

Still remember 1997 financial crisis. The US blasted the Asian Central Banks for doing a lousy job as root cause. Did they hold the Federal Reserve responsible for failing to prevent the sub-prime crisis ??

besitai2007
26-02-2010, 07:52 PM
MyVi cars are actually Daihatisu clones and Daihatsu cars are part of the Toyota organisation, isn't it? My new Myvi, since it was bought last year, had a defective clutch plate, a detached right drive shaft, and an improperly sealed fuel tank hose. Should this be an issue like the Toyotas in US? Forgot, no lives lost so no problem. I was compensated with a RM100 voucher - although I demanded a change of car.

Sentinel
27-02-2010, 02:37 AM
Ya-lor, I think I will stop thinking about buying any new car until 2012/13 - hopefully, QC will return by then !!! :pGet a scooter. Not just any scooter but a 500 cc Yamaha scooter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=a71VRm4BlKA&v=hCTBgcDNmug

I have a 2006 model and gave me no trouble at all. 1 tank of fuel is only RM20 and gives me 425 km of trave. Summore top speed is 190kmh. Automatic. Can take corners very low like a sports bike (because engine centralised and below the rider giving low CG). Mat Rempits can only smell the exhaust fume as you leave them far behind....

euryhale
27-02-2010, 07:50 PM
MyVi cars are actually Daihatisu clones and Daihatsu cars are part of the Toyota organisation, isn't it? My new Myvi, since it was bought last year, had a defective clutch plate, a detached right drive shaft, and an improperly sealed fuel tank hose. Should this be an issue like the Toyotas in US? Forgot, no lives lost so no problem. I was compensated with a RM100 voucher - although I demanded a change of car.

Besitai, I had the same problem but P2 reject my claims stating warranty period had expired. Everytime I fill up full tank the cabin smells of petrol. MYVI's inherent problem is with the brake caliper (loosen especially going over pot holes) and foul smell from the airconditioning units. While no car is defect free, we should not be swayed by all the commercial quality awards. P2 service level is getting poorer by the day as their sales peaks each year. I had to revisit the service centre on these defects. Now the master switch suddenly kaput and it cost RM300 to fix.