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chin_wan
15-01-2010, 08:34 PM
Don't spank your kids but feed them dirty stuff!


Germ-free kids may risk more adult illnesses: study

Parents who let their kids romp in the mud and eat food that has fallen on the floor could be helping to protect them against maladies like heart disease later in life, a US study showed Wednesday.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/germfree-kids-may-risk-more-adult-illnesses-1838007.html

terisunny
15-01-2010, 10:58 PM
That's my Dad's belief too and he's a living example....hale & healthy at 75! :D

Not sure about life's maladies but I kind of believe in eating 'dirty'. At the very least, compared to my friends' kids from our 'clean' southern neighbour, my kids' tummy are definitely 'stronger'....less tummy aches or hardly any food poisoning.

Hiliary
15-01-2010, 11:51 PM
It's obvious.
Build natural immunity at a young age.

kwchang
16-01-2010, 12:30 AM
No need to pick food off the floor ... that would be developing unhealthy practices. Remember we need to teach our kids right? :D

We already have our solution all the time. Just take the family out to eat at roadside stalls, hawker centres and even the neighbourhood coffee shops. In those places, you are sure to get the whole list of pathogens that will "vaccinate" your family against future food-poisoning adventures.

Nowadays, we tend to pamper the kids too much, eating at restaurants and shopping malls where each serving is not less than RM15, more likely RM20 per head on the average.

currymee
16-01-2010, 07:34 AM
No need to pick food off the floor ... that would be developing unhealthy practices. Remember we need to teach our kids right? :D

We already have our solution all the time. Just take the family out to eat at roadside stalls, hawker centres and even the neighbourhood coffee shops. In those places, you are sure to get the whole list of pathogens that will "vaccinate" your family against future food-poisoning adventures.

Nowadays, we tend to pamper the kids too much, eating at restaurants and shopping malls where each serving is not less than RM15, more likely RM20 per head on the average.

Absolutlely correct - but I would stop at coffeshop and hawker centres - roadside stalls, pay attention first, all my bad case of stomach-turns happened at roadside stalls and surprisingly all in Bangkok :eek: !! My tummy cannot take the 100% authentic Thai spices and "Extras" :D

Fabe18
16-01-2010, 08:01 AM
hahaha.. it's true that too clean oso no good.... need to be exposed to the dirty stuff in moderation.. hehehe...

Naka
16-01-2010, 08:08 AM
Absolutlely correct - but I would stop at coffeshop and hawker centres - roadside stalls, pay attention first, all my bad case of stomach-turns happened at roadside stalls and surprisingly all in Bangkok :eek: !! My tummy cannot take the 100% authentic Thai spices and "Extras" :D

True, I think I can only take 2 days of authentic Thai foods. After that, my stomach also cannot take it.

Tong
16-01-2010, 08:33 AM
That's right a good dose of salmonella ... do the rug rats the world of good!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I think I'll pass on this one :)

chin_wan
17-01-2010, 11:06 AM
Is this dirty or delicious?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_88gTIXqZyBM/SwyH0CzZJJI/AAAAAAAAAYw/RaysXWoHpu0/s1600/takoyako.jpg

Naka
17-01-2010, 11:21 AM
[QUOTE=chin_wan]Is this dirty or delicious?

QUOTE]

Looks hot :D ...

QuietStorm
17-01-2010, 11:25 AM
Looks hot :D ...Makes me hungry! :D

Naka
17-01-2010, 11:27 AM
Makes me hungry! :D

How abt this hot ikan bilies which I had last nite.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/ikanbillies.jpg

QuietStorm
17-01-2010, 12:45 PM
Luckily, I just came back from a curry rice lunch in USJ. :p

fongkimseng
21-01-2010, 09:26 PM
It is good to toughen up the stomach BUT don't overdo it until you get food poisoning or worse :eek:

zinglicious
22-01-2010, 06:46 AM
What can't kill you, would make you stronger. ;)

usehead
22-01-2010, 07:26 AM
how to be sure we don't get killed - this is the real challenge; the hypothesis is rather loose and misleading

birdy
22-01-2010, 08:17 AM
Nowadays, we tend to pamper the kids too much, eating at restaurants and shopping malls where each serving is not less than RM15, more likely RM20 per head on the average.
Having meals in restaurants would not guaranteed hygenic food as well.... have you see a hotel restaurant kitchen, which is in a mess? Tell you, it is worse than those in the coffee shop. Talking about those food chain, how can you assure that they don't pick up those food that fell onto the floor and serve to you?

Naka
22-01-2010, 08:29 AM
Having meals in restaurants would not guaranteed hygenic food as well.... have you see a hotel restaurant kitchen, which is in a mess? Tell you, it is worse than those in the coffee shop. Talking about those food chain, how can you assure that they don't pick up those food that fell onto the floor and serve to you?

If you worry too much, I think you will never enjoy your dinner at an expensive restaurant....better to eat first & worry later if you like to worry. ;)

currymee
22-01-2010, 08:51 AM
Having meals in restaurants would not guaranteed hygenic food as well.... have you see a hotel restaurant kitchen, which is in a mess? Tell you, it is worse than those in the coffee shop. Talking about those food chain, how can you assure that they don't pick up those food that fell onto the floor and serve to you?

One of the reason why I like coffeshop stalls is I can see what they are doing - granted that at some places, like APollo, the surrounding environment may not be so clean or hygenic, but looking at individual hawker stalls, their worktop, chopping oard, cleaning cloth, bowls, chopsticks, food storage, indvidual handling by the uncles/aunties, that is what I like to see and judge ..... well, that is my way, anyway. :D

chin_wan
22-01-2010, 09:30 AM
If the stalls are too clean, I know that the food is not good. Why? No business so got more time to clean the stall ma. If you have lotsa business, no time to clean la.

Naka
22-01-2010, 09:54 AM
If the stalls are too clean, I know that the food is not good. Why? No business so got more time to clean the stall ma. If you have lotsa business, no time to clean la.

Not true at all, a good stall can be clean too

Fabe18
22-01-2010, 10:18 AM
If the stalls are too clean, I know that the food is not good. Why? No business so got more time to clean the stall ma. If you have lotsa business, no time to clean la.

it is somewhat true but not across the board..
Stalls rated 'A' for cleanliness usually not a crowded compared to stalls rated 'B' or 'C' in the same foodcourt.. hahahha... Not to say 'B' or 'C' rated stalls are dirty.. Just not as clean... :p

kwchang
22-01-2010, 10:40 AM
If the stalls are too clean, I know that the food is not good. Why? No business so got more time to clean the stall ma. If you have lotsa business, no time to clean la.
That is a layman's view.
However in the field of food safety, it is more than just a messy kitchen. It has a lot to do with Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) - a process of identifying and controlling steps which may be at risk for contamination. For example, the person preparing food cannot cut raw salad or fruits with a knife that was used to cut raw meat because this becomes a point of risk of transferring bacteria from raw meat onto salad and fruits that are being consumed uncooked.

Therefore, do not look at the whole kitchen but rather the critical points. The scrutiny is how well the people handling food is trained to ensure minimal or zero contamination.

Nick Chia
22-01-2010, 11:22 AM
Behind the kitchen, the trouble is who monitors. Years ago it was reported that a 5 -star hotel's kitchen in jalan barat p.j. was found to have rats after a visit by MPPJ.

AllUrban
22-01-2010, 02:45 PM
No need to pick food off the floor ... that would be developing unhealthy practices. Remember we need to teach our kids right? :D

We already have our solution all the time. Just take the family out to eat at roadside stalls, hawker centres and even the neighbourhood coffee shops. In those places, you are sure to get the whole list of pathogens that will "vaccinate" your family against future food-poisoning adventures.

Nowadays, we tend to pamper the kids too much, eating at restaurants and shopping malls where each serving is not less than RM15, more likely RM20 per head on the average.hahhaahha sure, whats the problem with diarrhea, botulism, or possible e.coli infection or salmonella poisoning.

Cockroaches are really just protein. :D

Here's a slightly better way to 'vaccinate' your kids...feed them fresh, unprocessed foods, get them to spend time outside doing healthy activities, and encourage them to think positive thoughts.

Their immune systems will be so powerful that even the dirtiest food will have no impact.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
22-01-2010, 02:47 PM
Is this dirty or delicious?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_88gTIXqZyBM/SwyH0CzZJJI/AAAAAAAAAYw/RaysXWoHpu0/s1600/takoyako.jpgif they have enough of the bonito flakes, it looks like it is alive! :eek: :D

(The flakes move because of the steam rising off the takoyaki + the air currents around your table).


Cheers, m

AllUrban
22-01-2010, 02:48 PM
How abt this hot ikan bilies which I had last nite.

http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/uc-naka/ikanbillies.jpgm saw something looking similar to this in Chiang Mai...but the sauteed grasshoppers were brown, not red.

Cheers, m

Naka
22-01-2010, 02:54 PM
m saw something looking similar to this in Chiang Mai...but the sauteed grasshoppers were brown, not red.

Cheers, m

The Ikan Bilies & peanut were both oven-baked individually and then they were fried with red chilli. :D :D http://forum.ipoh.com.my/images/smilies/yum.gifhttp://forum.ipoh.com.my/images/smilies/yum.gifhttp://forum.ipoh.com.my/images/smilies/yum.gif

AllUrban
22-01-2010, 03:22 PM
The Ikan Bilies & peanut were both oven-baked individually and then they were fried with red chilli. :D :D http://forum.ipoh.com.my/images/smilies/yum.gifhttp://forum.ipoh.com.my/images/smilies/yum.gifhttp://forum.ipoh.com.my/images/smilies/yum.gifsounds delicious.

I actually like a lot of foods if I 'get' them...taste is really based on perception as well as actual taste & smell.

Cheers, m

Naka
22-01-2010, 03:34 PM
sounds delicious.

I actually like a lot of foods if I 'get' them...taste is really based on perception as well as actual taste & smell.

Cheers, m

It was delicious but I found it a little too hot. :D