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Jey
07-01-2010, 12:09 PM
http://www.malaysianmirror.com/homedetail/45-home/25469-get-ready-for-higher-tolls

New Year present for 2010... :eek: :D

Jey
07-01-2010, 01:44 PM
And this is the most opportune time to raise this Toll since the public is so engrossed with never ending issues... :eek:

bobkee
07-01-2010, 01:48 PM
And from some of my sources, higher fuel prices as well.

usehead
07-01-2010, 02:12 PM
How I wish the fund for PKFZ and space tourism had been used to ensure rakyat enjoy toll-free road instead!

klutch
07-01-2010, 07:50 PM
Ini baru Januari sahaja, alredi like this... sugar, petrol & sekarang toll..!!! Can't wait for Februari onwards... SEI :(

mick123
07-01-2010, 07:52 PM
electricity is next and then natural gas.so guys let's braise ourselves for deep impact.....

Naka
07-01-2010, 07:59 PM
My heart bleeds for you people.

klutch
07-01-2010, 08:03 PM
electricity is next and then natural gas.so guys let's braise ourselves for deep impact.....

Don't jinx it for next month... Choy!!! :p :p

VeeJay
07-01-2010, 09:04 PM
Sad to say jinx or no jinx, its gonna happen! :mad: So plan to embrace it. Maybe I should seriously think of getting a bike...Damn I love our gomen.

mick123
07-01-2010, 10:07 PM
:D :D :D my crystal ball is so clear and the images are so crisp........


aiya Naka, don't be so cruel lah..........actually it's not that bad to come to think of it.........the only problem is we are all so used subsidies for so long that many forgot what the true meaning of competitiveness is. so this is the main thing that bothers me when finally all these subsidies are removed - what is our beloved 1-this-and-1-that gomen gonna do to improve our country's competitiveness.....???

USJ27Resident
07-01-2010, 10:19 PM
get rid of ALL the foreign labour... and you'd see the true cost of living and true value of salaries for ALL Malaysian....

as long as cheap labor is available - the employers are gonna say one line - "NOT HAPPY? - LEAVE!"

Once the salaries and wages goes up... then all these price hikes would be bearable.... the only twits that would suffer are those fellas that had benefitted from all the commissions and shares they've been scalping from these poor foreign laborers and those employers that have enriched...no! engorged themselves with unearthly profits!! :mad:

zinglicious
08-01-2010, 02:52 AM
I thought when Semi Value is doggone, the toll rates would be stablised. :D

mick123
08-01-2010, 07:31 AM
semi once said he practices the 80/20 rule. which is i take 20% and give 80%. but now, with him gone, those in power take 80% and give 20%. so how to stabilise? may be the old horse days were better, no?

USJ27Resident
11-01-2010, 12:37 AM
Ini baru Januari sahaja, alredi like this... sugar, petrol & sekarang toll..!!! Can't wait for Februari onwards... SEI :(

what really riles you and me up - is the fact you PAY the toll and yet get stuck in the [censored] jam for hours... and to add salt to the injury, you suddenly get a VIP and entourage, being escorted thru the jam by [polis] outriders...and you forced to move to the side... mana not angry :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

ksj_cool
11-01-2010, 08:34 AM
Remove all subsidies, impose GST, increase TOL...great! This is "Rakyat diutamakan! " for you, BN govt style! Enjoy!

totoro
11-01-2010, 09:47 AM
I thought it was most likely to go down?

tupai
11-01-2010, 10:01 AM
every1 should go into bizznes.

Every bizzman loves it when gomen hike price up/take away subsidy/do wahtever that pushes COG up.

The shrewd bizzmen will correspondingly up his COG too...and up it MORE than the gomen incrementals! :D

Easy reference in the kopitiam, mamak bizz to understand the Principles of free-market@work4idiots...

Other principles of bizz, need to be paid for lah. Nothing is free anymore!

Yang Belajar ekonomi pasar latotupai :D

klutch
11-01-2010, 08:45 PM
I thought it was most likely to go down?

Kawan, where have you been??? Toll fares go down.. NEVER.. I can't even remember if the toll fares has ever dropped in the last 10 years.. semua naik only :mad:

mick123
11-01-2010, 09:36 PM
just felt like taking a swipe :p

...............that's why they call themselves BN.....
Barang Naik
Bebas Naik
Biasa Naik
oh and nearly forgot.........Boleh Naik


semuanya Naik.........

bslee
11-01-2010, 09:51 PM
I really had in mind during this year to travel around, maybe far, maybe near and should there be any rise in rates, I think I'm going to travel the old trunk roads....maybe see the country side as I've not seen it for a long long time.
I'm just hopping mad at this country and rising costs.

totoro
11-01-2010, 11:02 PM
aiya, inflation happens everywhere lah... when will we stop complaining about anything and everything, and focus our hearts and minds on what really matters in life...

if our prices are really shockingly unbearable... how about for example, an hour of parking in Melbourne CBD is AUD$25... petrol in US is $3 per gallon (or RM3 per liter)... I know there's no point comparing, but that's exactly the point.

VeeJay
11-01-2010, 11:21 PM
if price go up for a valid reason (like gas) then its fine...toll pun naik....whats the justification, since revenue increases by month!

If you travel in States...for 1000s of miles you only couple of cents!

Even then there is always alternative roads if one decide not to use the tollroad! here we are forced to use and pay more by every years and in the result stuck in a long traffic, mana ada logic?

totoro
11-01-2010, 11:55 PM
I guess you've not been stuck in LA rush hour traffic... :)

Well, PLUS on contract raises 10% every 3 years, and then after donkey years, the tolls are taken down, and the roads remain... it's the population growth rate that's causing congestion, and well, perhaps that's due to poor planning, but then the government's direction here is to enhance public transport, long-term.

FYI - a lot of overseas folks in developed countries use public transport, cycle to work, I know a university lecturer who jogs to work in KL, and a large number actually *gasp* carpools... that's something we don't see here.

See, those are real, and mostly practical solutions, and I'm sure we can whip some cool idea up too, instead of just finding fault, right?

I know there are a lot of room for improvement, but we can all do our bit to improve it too. :)

ivanhow
12-01-2010, 02:15 AM
Looks like the toll booths will be here to stay. All the hoohaa by MCA to do away with toll booths in the KL-Klang Valley just seems to have evaporated! :D

The news I heard was that the toll rates will be restructured... I wonder what that means. :confused:
Is it going to be 2-tiered just like the petrol pricing?

ivanhow
12-01-2010, 02:20 AM
impose GST...Enjoy!
Another messy business. :cool:

Stan
12-01-2010, 10:05 AM
Totoro,

How to compare...

Here we buy car we pay enormous amt of tax, before we drive we pay road tax, we use road we pay toll...

Semau tax!!! what do we get in return for the tax we pay???




aiya, inflation happens everywhere lah... when will we stop complaining about anything and everything, and focus our hearts and minds on what really matters in life...

if our prices are really shockingly unbearable... how about for example, an hour of parking in Melbourne CBD is AUD$25... petrol in US is $3 per gallon (or RM3 per liter)... I know there's no point comparing, but that's exactly the point.

VeeJay
12-01-2010, 10:23 AM
I guess you've not been stuck in LA rush hour traffic... :)



Hahaha...I was a northern guy! Didnt really liked the South, very Asian! :D :eek:

Everytime I travel south, felt like in malaysia, the road system, traffic lights, driving habits, etc.

But then, I dont complain much about the gas there, since transport is cheap, immaterial public or private. One could easily get a couple of years old used car for less than USD2K. Public transport at most places only cost USD1. Gas (petrol) is a free market, and ther is always competition, I have filled my gas free for many times! because there were 3 stations were fighting for best prices...sini boleh ke? not even in my dreams :o

totoro
12-01-2010, 10:48 AM
Totoro,

How to compare...

Here we buy car we pay enormous amt of tax, before we drive we pay road tax, we use road we pay toll...

Semau tax!!! what do we get in return for the tax we pay???

that's why the point is not to compare... if we look at the overall cost of living, we're still doing far better than most countries...

we don't have unmanageable high costs of medicare and insurance, and our public hospitals are ridiculously cheap, even without our new 1Malaysia clinics. Price of our daily necessities and grocery needs are considered pretty darn cheap too, but when the price of teh tarik goes up by 10sen we scream bloody murder?

AllUrban
12-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Looks like the toll booths will be here to stay. All the hoohaa by MCA to do away with toll booths in the KL-Klang Valley just seems to have evaporated! :D

The news I heard was that the toll rates will be restructured... I wonder what that means. :confused:
Is it going to be 2-tiered just like the petrol pricing?probably bring in more discounts for frequent users of toll.

One thing they really should do is make the MRRII toll free.

That means, remove tolls on the LDP and KESAS portions that are part of MRRII. Sprint and other highways can keep the tolls as there are other alternatives, but there is no reasonable alternative to LDP and KESAS (unless you count the road to Serdang)...

Cheers, m

superdude11224
12-01-2010, 01:00 PM
aiya, inflation happens everywhere lah... when will we stop complaining about anything and everything, and focus our hearts and minds on what really matters in life...

if our prices are really shockingly unbearable... how about for example, an hour of parking in Melbourne CBD is AUD$25... petrol in US is $3 per gallon (or RM3 per liter)... I know there's no point comparing, but that's exactly the point.


You a BN member ahh...nolah when you want to compare like this we have to consider other stuff also like how much is the average salary those guys earning over there and also Malaysia got their own pertrol supply over here(Petronas).

totoro
12-01-2010, 02:12 PM
You a BN member ahh...nolah when you want to compare like this we have to consider other stuff also like how much is the average salary those guys earning over there and also Malaysia got their own pertrol supply over here(Petronas).
FYI - Malaysia is a net exporter of crude but net importer of refined petrol.

Look at the Cost of Living surveys such as the Economist Intelligence Unit. Malaysia ranks 98th, while Japan ranks #1. Cost of living considers not just your car and toll prices. It includes your disposable income and purchasing power.

Nobody is perfect, but nothing improves by blaming others.

FYI - I have a comfortable car but I take public transport to work, and I benefit from reduced stress, extra free time to read, sleep, etc, and I can even escape tolls and jams.

It all starts with the man in the mirror. God bless the king of pop.

Stan
12-01-2010, 03:22 PM
If we look at the cost of living I disagree that we are still doing better than most countries...

Dollar for dollar, our purchasing power is definitely much lower...our ringgit is too weak and our disposable income is small...

Compare to 30 years ago our income has gone up but our purchasing power has definitely dropped! In countries which we were once on par with, we are now way behind them in quality of life....




that's why the point is not to compare... if we look at the overall cost of living, we're still doing far better than most countries...


we don't have unmanageable high costs of medicare and insurance, and our public hospitals are ridiculously cheap, even without our new 1Malaysia clinics. Price of our daily necessities and grocery needs are considered pretty darn cheap too, but when the price of teh tarik goes up by 10sen we scream bloody murder?

Rhiga
12-01-2010, 04:06 PM
Look at the Cost of Living surveys such as the Economist Intelligence Unit. Malaysia ranks 98th, while Japan ranks #1. Cost of living considers not just your car and toll prices. It includes your disposable income and purchasing power.


Let’s take a very simple comparison.

Go to IKEA Malaysia and try what RM500 can offer to you and go to IKEA Singapore and see what S$500 can do. The answer is obvious.

I intentionally compare Malaysia and Singapore because salary among the two countries are very close. (dollar to dollar).

But the PPP (purchasing power parity) is so much lower in Malaysia due to the week Ringgit. As a result, cost of living is high in Malaysia.

BUT fortunately the land price in this country is relatively low, a fraction of the developed country/metropolitan city like Singapore. Thus, apart from house, almost everything in Malaysia is expensive relative to income due to the weak currency.

Graduate in Tokyo easily earn 8 times more than the graduate here and they can buy car even during the varsity times but they need to take a 2 generations mortgage to buy a house. Same thing in Shanghai now.

If you factor land/house price to calculate statistics/Index, it will be seriously skewed. That’s why when bank select high net worth customers, the value of the real estate ownership is not in the calculation. Otherwise, almost every Singaporean, Hong Kee can easily qualify in that category.

totoro
12-01-2010, 04:23 PM
well, actually cars and petrol are more expensive in SG compared to Msia wor... same goes for food...

look at our endless rows and rows of furniture malls with rock bottom prices for made in Malaysia goods... why are we only comparing prices of imported branded goods? is that how we should be measuring cost of living?

why are you still comparing just car prices between Tokyo and KL, rather than housing and food, or other forms of transportation where KL is much cheaper? A short bus fare in KL is RM1+ but in the UK it's GBP2.50...

As I said, look at things in its totality - personal income vs capex and opex. You can try reading how the EIU does it's analysis on Cost Of Living:
http://eiu.enumerate.com/asp/wcol_HelpIndexCalc.asp#whatsthebestwaytoconstructa nindex

You can not take 1 single factor (IKEA prices, car prices) and base your entire argument on that.

Cheers.

ivanhow
12-01-2010, 09:44 PM
probably bring in more discounts for frequent users of toll.Discount based on frequency of usage? Another money spinner project? :D

One thing they really should do is make the MRRII toll free.
That means, remove tolls on the LDP and KESAS portions that are part of MRRII. Sprint and other highways can keep the tolls as there are other alternatives, but there is no reasonable alternative to LDP and KESAS (unless you count the road to Serdang)...

Cheers, m
Can we have M as a cabinet minister? :D Our Transport Minister is too engaged in the tussle within the party, and therefore we need someone who can focus on the so called 'People 1st, Performance Now" for all 1Malaysians:p

currymee
12-01-2010, 09:52 PM
SLightly OFF-TOPIC: Has anyone here actually got the 20% discount for using the toll (TouchnGo) more than 80 times per month ? :confused:

klutch
12-01-2010, 10:11 PM
SLightly OFF-TOPIC: Has anyone here actually got the 20% discount for using the toll (TouchnGo) more than 80 times per month ? :confused:

Few people use 2 tolls -> one way per trip everyday for 22 working days... Only the minority motorists would really enjoy this added benefit!!! :eek:

Hiliary
13-01-2010, 09:26 AM
SLightly OFF-TOPIC: Has anyone here actually got the 20% discount for using the toll (TouchnGo) more than 80 times per month ? :confused:

Yes, i got RM85 back in december.
I did not even know about this rebate. I went to a toll office to see about a replacement for my beat up card and came out smiling.

Hiliary
13-01-2010, 09:44 AM
Perhaps cost of living should be measured against the quality of life?
Based on the countries i visit, in Malaysia and India i can enjoy TT with cheap and tasty food at any time of day and most times i get a free parking space.

I can do the same in Singapore or Bangkok but it costs me more.
I cannot do it so easily in Manila, first i have to dress up as many places do not allow shorts and tshirts plus the aircon mall is too cold. Then it costs me more because it's designer coffee or tea only. Plus i sit in horrendous traffic jams to get anywhere.
Buying a cup of coffee or a beer in the UK is about the same price as half a tank of fuel in my Mini. No wonder ordinary people only go out once or twice a week.
In Finland people go out and get blind drunk on a thursday or friday, stay at home the rest of the week.
In the US it's about triple and i gain too much weight. Yes they have some of the cheapest cars and houses in the world, but the cars age fast and many houses are made of cheap materials. They also have huge credit card debt.

For Malaysia, housing in general is lower cost than any other country i visit. Yes the purchase price of a car in Malaysia borders on insanity, but i see plenty of traffic jams and full car parks so are most people insane?

It will be interesting to compare at the end of this year, i fear the diminishing subsidies will lower the current high quality of life in Malaysia.

Stan
13-01-2010, 10:06 AM
Totoro,

From first hand experience, I can say this is not true, comparing dollar for dollar. Like I said you cannot convert since their income is in Sing dollars and earn as much if not more than their counterparts in Malaysia.

Cars, petrol and food are definitely cheaper in singapore dollar for dollar!!!



well, actually cars and petrol are more expensive in SG compared to Msia wor... same goes for food...

look at our endless rows and rows of furniture malls with rock bottom prices for made in Malaysia goods... why are we only comparing prices of imported branded goods? is that how we should be measuring cost of living?

why are you still comparing just car prices between Tokyo and KL, rather than housing and food, or other forms of transportation where KL is much cheaper? A short bus fare in KL is RM1+ but in the UK it's GBP2.50...

As I said, look at things in its totality - personal income vs capex and opex. You can try reading how the EIU does it's analysis on Cost Of Living:
http://eiu.enumerate.com/asp/wcol_HelpIndexCalc.asp#whatsthebestwaytoconstructa nindex

You can not take 1 single factor (IKEA prices, car prices) and base your entire argument on that.

Cheers.

totoro
13-01-2010, 10:58 AM
Stan,

You're only comparing a select few factors, rather than a typical basket-of-goods as the barometer... I have another Cost of Living survey, and Singapore ranks firmly as the top 10 most expensive cities in Asia to live as of 2009. KL is ranked 38th (out of 51 Asian cities).

URL: http://www.mercer.com/costoflivingpr

You're not going to argue with this ranking are you? :)

Stan
13-01-2010, 11:16 AM
totoro,

Dont want to beat a dead horse so this will be my final posting on this matter....

Firstly, I am not comparing a few select factors, rather i was responding to the 'claims' you made and rebutting them.

Secondly, you are not geting the point. It doesnt matter if a city is the most expensive place in the world if the residents / citizens earn a high enough income to afford a decent lifestyle! My point is our income dont match our cost of living. For Singaporeans, it may be a costly city to live in but if your income is high enough (which it is) then its ok. Of course if you earn our wages in ringgit and live in Singapore, then definitely it is too expensive to line in...Its only expensive for people who comes from a country with weak currency and low incomes.

Let me repeat, our ringgit is weak and our cost of living is high for our income levels.

If you think Malaysia is cheap to live in then good for you. Anyone who has spent some time working in Singapore will know that cost of living there is lower than Malaysia vis a vis their income and dollar value.


Stan,

You're only comparing a select few factors, rather than a typical basket-of-goods as the barometer... I have another Cost of Living survey, and Singapore ranks firmly as the top 10 most expensive cities in Asia to live as of 2009. KL is ranked 38th (out of 51 Asian cities).

URL: http://www.mercer.com/costoflivingpr

You're not going to argue with this ranking are you? :)

totoro
13-01-2010, 11:32 AM
Stan,

I don't plan to make this an argument. I've mentioned twice before that the above reputable cost of living surveys already includes the income factor, and do not just compare expenses and disregarding income.

So for the above, in Singapore, comparing their income to their cost of living, it is an expensive city to live in. In Malaysia, comparing our income to our cost of living, we're a cheap place to live in, because after deducting expenses for housing, transport, food, clothing, insurance, etc, the survey is saying we still have a higher rate of disposable income remaining to spend on our life (hence increasing our quality of life).

I don't know.

Even if a manager in Singapore earns SG$10k and has RM3k disposable income each month, and a manager in Malaysia earns RM10k and also has RM3k disposable income each month, but since dollar-for-dollar cost of living is much cheaper in Malaysia (i.e. a meal/movie/dress is SG$50 vs RM30 in Msia), wouldn't we consider it to be cheaper living in Malaysia (disregarding the fact that you'd be living in a large corner lot or bungalow in Msia vs a HDB)?

Obviously a weak ringgit puts our PPP at a disadvantage when we need to get out of our own country, but then here we're talking about cost of living within the country, not outside of it.

firefox
13-01-2010, 02:26 PM
What has happen to the toll issue, somewhere we have taken a detour!

AllUrban
13-01-2010, 03:09 PM
What has happen to the toll issue, somewhere we have taken a detour!In order to avoid the tolls, we have to take a detour...now we are in the middle of a residential area facing traffic jam and discussing the cost of living while we wait.

Interesting topics for discussion, no?


FYI - Malaysia is a net exporter of crude but net importer of refined petrol. interesting to note that Malaysia does export refined petrol at Euro IV standards to 2 countries in SE Asia. Petrol and diesel used in Malaysia is now at Euro II standards after a recent upgrade in September 09.

Few people use 2 tolls -> one way per trip everyday for 22 working days... Only the minority motorists would really enjoy this added benefit!!! :eek:It just may be that you have to register in order to receive the discount...as per the Touch N Go website...https://privilege.touchngo.com.my/

most of the frequent users of tolls (e.g. during the day) are using the tolls as part of their job...but they are not using Touch N Go because they need paper receipts to claim expenses.

However, if the company wants, they can register for fleet cards and / or receive online summary (e-statement (http://e-services.touchngo.com.my/e-Statement/)) of Touch N Go usage...reducing the waste of time & money & paper associated with using lorong tunai just to get receipts.

One wonders why TnG doesnt do more to promote their online services...methinks the cost of the increased discounts is not an issue (government is compensating them) and the savings associated with less money handling and fewer paper receipts would be beneficial.

By the way, if you prefer to not carry cash, here is the latest list of retailers (http://www.touchngo.com.my/tngRetail.html) accepting Touch N Go

Cheers, m

kwchang
13-01-2010, 04:00 PM
..It just may be that you have to register in order to receive the discount...as per the Touch N Go website...https://privilege.touchngo.com.my/...
Thanks M, for the website. I just registered and guess what, it already has my record (name, tel number was given when I bought the card approx 10 years ago). And surprise, surprise, I find there is a sum of RM176.98 in my account recorded as my accumulated rebates ! So, maybe it isn't necessary to register to get the rebates - your TnG card gets the rebates on yr behalf. The registration is to allow you to go online to check the rebates accumulated.

currymee
13-01-2010, 04:06 PM
Thanks M, for the website. I just registered and guess what, it already has my record (name, tel number was given when I bought the card approx 10 years ago). And surprise, surprise, I find there is a sum of RM176.98 in my account recorded as my accumulated rebates ! So, maybe it isn't necessary to register to get the rebates - your TnG card gets the rebates on yr behalf. The registration is to allow you to go online to check the rebates accumulated.

KW, better go and claim asap - I believe there is a time limit for the rebates - 6 months or less, not so sure, if I recall correctly. My TnG usage per month is just 60-70 times, man , really FRUSTRATED, not qualified for discount !!

VeeJay
13-01-2010, 04:10 PM
Hmm I just tried the URL...not seems to be accessible now...maybe too many usj forumers trying to get in? :confused: :D

ANyways, thanks m for the valuable information. Yeah me too, wonder why its was not publicized?

AllUrban
13-01-2010, 04:13 PM
Thanks M, for the website. I just registered and guess what, it already has my record (name, tel number was given when I bought the card approx 10 years ago). And surprise, surprise, I find there is a sum of RM176.98 in my account recorded as my accumulated rebates ! So, maybe it isn't necessary to register to get the rebates - your TnG card gets the rebates on yr behalf. The registration is to allow you to go online to check the rebates accumulated.exactly that KWC. Registration & e-statement is to help keep track of your card / rebates / spending from the comfort of your office. Collection of the rebates can be done easily anytime but you have to go to the office.

Registration also helps you keep track of your employees...using e-statement can tell you where your employee was at what time...whether he was using the company TnG at burger king or not :D

Cheers, m

ps. KWC do take note that you may have to replace your card with a new one as it is 10 years old.

If you want a new unregistered 1malaysia Touch n Go card I can give you mine. Dont really need it as I already have a card.

kwchang
13-01-2010, 04:33 PM
...do take note that you may have to replace your card with a new one as it is 10 years old.

If you want a new unregistered 1malaysia Touch n Go card I can give you mine. Dont really need it as I already have a card.
Thank you for the reminder and the offer ... I am well aware that I need to get a new TnG this year. BTW, I already have 2 free TnG cards (won them at a Q&A contest last year) ... the spare cards come in useful when I go on the KTM commuter with my kids.

I see from the website we can review all the TnG transactions ... great to prove where you were on a specific date and time :) ... but website is a bit slow now ... maybe better if we check around midnight

superdude11224
13-01-2010, 04:53 PM
FYI - Malaysia is a net exporter of crude but net importer of refined petrol.

Look at the Cost of Living surveys such as the Economist Intelligence Unit. Malaysia ranks 98th, while Japan ranks #1. Cost of living considers not just your car and toll prices. It includes your disposable income and purchasing power.

Nobody is perfect, but nothing improves by blaming others.

FYI - I have a comfortable car but I take public transport to work, and I benefit from reduced stress, extra free time to read, sleep, etc, and I can even escape tolls and jams.

It all starts with the man in the mirror. God bless the king of pop.


Which public transport you taking lah, got time to read, escape jams, reduced stress? Try taking bus to work and see whether you even got place to sit, then you have to stand next to a guy tht didnt shower for one week, and for gurls you will have guys trying to "accidently" rub-up against you. I'am not one of those guys ;)

Plus unless the bus can fly how you gonna escape jams?

joan
13-01-2010, 05:05 PM
I thought it auto debit to our T&Go every 5 months :eek:



exactly that KWC. Registration & e-statement is to help keep track of your card / rebates / spending from the comfort of your office. Collection of the rebates can be done easily anytime but you have to go to the office.

Registration also helps you keep track of your employees...using e-statement can tell you where your employee was at what time...whether he was using the company TnG at burger king or not :D

Cheers, m

ps. KWC do take note that you may have to replace your card with a new one as it is 10 years old.

If you want a new unregistered 1malaysia Touch n Go card I can give you mine. Dont really need it as I already have a card.

termibait
13-01-2010, 09:55 PM
Which public transport you taking lah, got time to read, escape jams, reduced stress? Try taking bus to work and see whether you even got place to sit, then you have to stand next to a guy tht didnt shower for one week, and for gurls you will have guys trying to "accidently" rub-up against you. I'am not one of those guys ;)

Plus unless the bus can fly how you gonna escape jams?

most importantly, can reach the destination without stress......if u are working at Aker solutions in PKFZ i don't think u can be stress free. or working inside Glenmarie if u are staying in BUkit Tinggi,Klang or KL. It's just so so inconvenient to take public transport in this country........stress free? i think my stress level will increase further....

totoro
13-01-2010, 09:57 PM
Which public transport you taking lah, got time to read, escape jams, reduced stress?
Hmm, I take the LRT and read the papers or books, or catch a nap to and from work. :)

Cheers.

ivanhow
14-01-2010, 02:20 AM
ps. KWC do take note that you may have to replace your card with a new one as it is 10 years old...
Hi M, Is the replacement FOC? The TnG card Nbr is quite blur... I assume we will need to key in the card number during registration, right? Any idea whether it can be replace (FOC) because it is blur and not readable?

Talking about higher toll in the works, when petrol price goes up, the toll will begin to go up too (ratio of these two items for cars is close to 1:1). So, come May, we will be seeing prices of transportation and goods, and food begin to spiral upwards. And talking about cost of goods going up, that makes our cost of living begin to go up again. Unfortunately, our salary not going up anytime soon... :eek:

Rhiga
14-01-2010, 10:42 AM
Hmm, I take the LRT and read the papers or books, or catch a nap to and from work. :)

Cheers.

I admire your “supernatural” ability.

I can’t read or take a nap even in the world’s most efficient subway, the JR lines.

The constant reminder of next destination is a killer to sleep. To best I can do is close my eyes to conserve energy.

You can do it in a Malaysia LRT. I think you are qualified to start a meditation class. :D

Cheers

totoro
14-01-2010, 10:50 AM
I admire your “supernatural” ability.

I can’t read or take a nap even in the world’s most efficient subway, the JR lines.

The constant reminder of next destination is a killer to sleep. To best I can do is close my eyes to conserve energy.

You can do it in a Malaysia LRT. I think you are qualified to start a meditation class. :D

Cheers

all you have to do is take the LRT once during peak hours and you'll see for yourself. Most of those seated are trying to catch naps.

Rhiga
14-01-2010, 11:00 AM
Well, I think I have lost the compettive survival skil in Malaysia public transport.

rakyat
14-01-2010, 11:03 AM
Its rather difficult to fall a sleep in the LRT due to the noise, crowd and the narrow seats. Mayb they close their eyes to avoid the guilty concious of not giving up the seat to senior citizens or pregnant women :D

AllUrban
14-01-2010, 11:06 AM
Hi M, Is the replacement FOC? The TnG card Nbr is quite blur... I assume we will need to key in the card number during registration, right? Any idea whether it can be replace (FOC) because it is blur and not readable?

Talking about higher toll in the works, when petrol price goes up, the toll will begin to go up too (ratio of these two items for cars is close to 1:1). So, come May, we will be seeing prices of transportation and goods, and food begin to spiral upwards. And talking about cost of goods going up, that makes our cost of living begin to go up again. Unfortunately, our salary not going up anytime soon... :eek:Hi Ivanhow.

Sorry but I dont have the answers. I think there were some comments on the forum about replacing the cards. But it is probably best to ask TnG Sdn. Bhd. directly.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
14-01-2010, 11:07 AM
Its rather difficult to fall a sleep in the LRT due to the noise, crowd and the narrow seats. Mayb they close their eyes to avoid the guilty concious of not giving up the seat to senior citizens or pregnant women :Dstudies have shown that regular users of public transport can actually nap as they are familiar with the number of stops & starts and the length of the trip and they can tune out the noise & crowding.

This isnt deep sleep but it is refreshing sleep.

Cheers, m

kwchang
14-01-2010, 11:20 AM
...Is the replacement FOC? The TnG card Nbr is quite blur... I assume we will need to key in the card number during registration..
If I may remember correctly, I paid for my wife's new replacement card when it expired. So it is not free but RM10 isn't that much.

As for the serial number ... I don't think you have any worries, their card readers at the office should be able to read the details electronically - how else do you think the toll gates can identify the times you passed thru them?

USJ27Resident
15-01-2010, 12:37 AM
I thought when Semi Value is doggone, the toll rates would be stablised. :D

looks like the toll revamp is gonna happen... I guess at this rate - my grandchildren would also be paying tolls and enriching the grandchildren of some politician cum businessman... long after me and that politician is dead and gone!!! :mad:

ivanhow
15-01-2010, 01:58 AM
If I may remember correctly, I paid for my wife's new replacement card when it expired. So it is not free but RM10 isn't that much.

As for the serial number ... I don't think you have any worries, their card readers at the office should be able to read the details electronically - how else do you think the toll gates can identify the times you passed thru them?
Hi Chang, Hiya silly me. Shud have know that. Just that I thot I got a reason for changing the card FOC... :p