SJKC Lick Hung Parents' Q&A Support Group

[Mommy]

I agree with Currymee, the govt thinks that parent has nothing to do, just sit there and wait for super short notice. Bear in mind that some company has policy that leave has to be applied at least 3 working days in advance. If the government is really sincere and worry the safety for the children to collect the money alone, then they should be more caring, issue cheque payable to the parent name or child name. I am sure most of the children would have his/her own bank account.

Agree, dont see anything wrong with giving the cheque to the children. School has full record of parent/guardian name. Just put any of the name will do. I am still thinking how to sneak an hour/2 out to get the monies. Dont take also stupid, take also stupid. Easily take 2 hours plus travelling and waiting. Why not give 2-3 days to collect the monies????

[currymee]

Firstly, you must understand that this is a TOP-DOWN POLITICAL DIRECTIVE and DECISION, so the schools have to do as they are told ... no thinking allowed !! :rolleyes: If allowed, I bet you, Lick Hung will "re-channel" all the fund into the new school block development :p :p

In such a situation, UNIFORMITY in method of distribution, day, time etc is pre-determined by the Ministry. I am not sure IF the schools are given any leeway here, if they do, then Lick Hung school management is a BUNCH OF IDIOTS for cramming everything like this !! :mad:

Issuing of cheques will only work in urban schools like Lick Hung but not for rural schools. Hence, it is not done in any school nationwide as far as I am aware.

All these aspects, I can accept and understand, knowing how stupid, rigid and idiotic the Ministry of Education can be .... :rolleyes:

BUT what I strongly disagree with is THE CRAZY SHORT NOTICE (as good as NO NOTICE) given until working parents cannot apply for leave and have to forfeit .... that is UNFAIR :mad:

It is akin to saying want to "give and help" BUT you make it so difficult with so many conditions until it is next to impossible for some .... and then you want those that cannot make it TO FORFEIT and TAKE IT BACK .... that is a very "INSINCERE" gift - in my book !! :mad:

It is called "BURUK SIKU" in BM Simpulan Bahasa ... :p - give and then try to TAKE BACK ....

[jan tomaswaki]

Aiyah,CM don't complain la...just take the RM100 and give deposit to Choy Kee for 22 bowls of curry mee :D

[sydneymak]

both parents have to attend to get the RM 100? or either one will do?

[Jennylim]

One parent will do.

[currymee]

Aiyah,CM don't complain la...just take the RM100 and give deposit to Choy Kee for 22 bowls of curry mee :D

:D :D

Speaking of Choy Kee, walau !!! The place was PACKED during lunch until no place to sit or eat .... FULL OF LH parents :) from 12:30 till 1:30pm and exactly 1:30pm, WHOOOOSHSH, EMPTY in one go - all go and meet "God of Prosperity !! :eek: :p :p :p

Want to eat also no chance, so went home and makan ROTI instead ... :(

[Mammoth]

Sadly to say, I was the 100 unfortunate parents to be selected to attend the ceramah before able to collect the money. What a insincerity givings, wasted my precious 3 hours just to collect RM100. :mad:

[currymee]

Sadly to say, I was the 100 unfortunate parents to be selected to attend the ceramah before able to collect the money. What a insincerity givings, wasted my precious 3 hours just to collect RM100. :mad:

What CERAMAH ? :confused: :confused:

I just walked in and all the class kids shouted "Hello Uncle !! :p " (no need to check my ID) :cool: and just went to the class teacher's desk, sign and took the envelope with RM100 inside.

The teacher even joked with me as I opened the envelope to check - "Don't worry, got money, I pack it myself !! :p :D - like she is giving "angpows" :D

[Mammoth]

Political ceramah by YB Ong Chong Swan. :mad: only 2 classes + 15 from 1 class selected. The rest of the classes can walk in and collect.

[currymee]

Political ceramah by YB Ong Chong Swan. :mad: only 2 classes + 15 from 1 class selected. The rest of the classes can walk in and collect.

So, there is NO FREE AID after all .... :mad: - but forcing parents to listen to their propoganda !!

NO WONDER :eek: , I heard "rumours" at Choy Kee that some parents were pissed off with "something" about the rebate but I did not know what .... now, I know ....BTW, Mdm Ong is NOT A YB - TIDAK LAYAK :p - (only an MCA wanna-be) she did not win any election in SJ/USJ !! :p

See what I mean now by labelling it as an ELECTION BRIBE !! :rolleyes:

[currymee]

A friend of mine just called and said he was caught in the same "ceramah" for the afternoon session - REALLY TIU (curse) LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTRE over the telephone to me (F-word here and there :eek: )... but he is too much of a gentleman to say it to Mdm Ong in the face, who apparently was being introduced as "YB" - aiyoh ... so "tak malu" / SHAMELESS for assuming an honorific title that she did not get/deserve !!! :p :p :p

Maybe she does .... YB - Yang Bodoh, Yang "Boh Been" (no shame) , Yang Boh Paisei .... hahahahahaaa .... I really pity my friend, poor guy, stuck for 3 hours to listen to the political crap ..... :(

This is going TO BACKFIRE BIG TIME for the BN Govt when the news get out and spread nationwide - LET IT START FROM HERE !!! :D :D

[birdy]

I was there too... thank god, the god helps the victim by censoring most of the speech.. it was raining heavily and the sound of downpours covered the speech. I was standing together with group of parents behind the hall, we can't hear anything ... :D

Currymee, indeed ... the stage backdrop states that "Disempurnakan oleh ... Yang Bahagia Ong Chong Swan" :eek: I was shocked too when I read the backdrop.

[currymee]

AIYAH :o Birdy, thanks for the clarification ... so Mdm Ong is a YBhg - Yang Berbahagia - the honorific salutation in front of a Datukship etc .... My apologies to Madam Ong if she did not claim herself to be a YB but others confer "YB" to her in the process of trying to "curry favour" (or aka carry-balls :rolleyes: ) with her .

FYI - YB (Yang Berhormat) is exclusively reserved for ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE of the people ;) - sorry, you are not it !! SJ/USJ residents in majority did not elect you in 2008 .... :rolleyes:

Birdy,

I PITY YOU also .... BTW, WHAT ARE POLITICIANS DOING IN SCHOOL AGAIN ? :mad:

Did the school management forget about the Kementerian Pelajaran Surat Pekeliling about NO POLITICIANS in SCHOOLS again and again and again ... ? ?

[currymee]

OK, enough "rambling" by me on politics here - my apologies to all :o :o :o :o ... NO POLITICS in this school thread or else afterwards KWChang comes along and LOCK the thread .... :eek:

[currymee]

LATEST UPDATE by DG of MOE on REBATE

Must have been a lot of parents complaining leh .... :rolleyes:

Extract ... "We are focusing on making the payment this week to enable parents to use the money to buy schooling paraphernalia. However, if they cannot go to the schools now, they can claim the money later," he told reporters after the 1Malaysia national-level special education co-curricular excellence awards presentation, here.

Abd Ghafar dismissed an allegation that the money would be returned to the Government if it was not claimed this week.

Errrr .... so what about the school letter (see below - item no. 4) ? Who is talking cock and bull ? :confused: :p :p :p

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/16/nation/20111116165346&sec=nation

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/RM100rebate.jpg

[fRaNkY]

Agree, dont see anything wrong with giving the cheque to the children. School has full record of parent/guardian name. Just put any of the name will do. I am still thinking how to sneak an hour/2 out to get the monies. Dont take also stupid, take also stupid. Easily take 2 hours plus travelling and waiting. Why not give 2-3 days to collect the monies????

Dont think LH have a cheque printing machine or few thousand cheques ready waiting to be to be written individually for this purpose.Will take another few weeks, to get cheques ready.

This is a logistical nightmare created by BN nightmare, not properly thought off.

Heard you can collect during holidays or time arrangeblater on. :)

[fRaNkY]

Political ceramah by YB Ong Chong Swan. :mad: only 2 classes + 15 from 1 class selected. The rest of the classes can walk in and collect.

This too much! Overboard! :(

[aerobax]

Political ceramah by YB Ong Chong Swan. :mad: only 2 classes + 15 from 1 class selected. The rest of the classes can walk in and collect.

This too much! Overboard! :(
I checked her profile (below) and Mdm Ong was the former PIBG Committee of Lick Hung (1995-1999) even before the current HM (2005) and since then, she has got no official connection whatsoever with the school.

http://www.chongswen.com/Profile/MyProfile.htm


..... BTW, WHAT ARE POLITICIANS DOING IN SCHOOL AGAIN ? :mad:

Did the school management forget about the Kementerian Pelajaran Surat Pekeliling about NO POLITICIANS in SCHOOLS again and again and again ... ? ?
Yes, the school headmaster is guilty of breaking the Jabatan Pelajaran Negeri orders by inviting a politician to school to "officiate" an event. If enough parents complain to the Ministry, he can be reprimanded or transfered for breaking the General Orders (Perintah Am) of civil service.

Madam Ong has no official rights to be in any Lick Hung events (or any other SJKC in Subang area) as she is no longer a parent of a school going children, she is not a PIBG Committee member anymore nor is she a member of the Board of Governors. She is just a plain politician and has no right to attend whatsoever and in breach of Government rulings. :mad:

If any local politican is allowed to grace any funtion in the school, it should be ADUN Subang Jaya - Yang BERHORMAT Hannah Yeoh (DAP) or MP Kelana Jaya - Yang BERHORMAT Loh Gwo Bourne (PKR) - they are the real YBs representing the people of Kelana Jaya.

I feel sorry for Madam Ong to be put into such a shameful situation by over-zealous officials wanting to "curry favour" her (I checked in the online dictionary and there is actually such a term, I thought currymee was kidding ... ;) ) for their own selfish reasons.

This event has left a very bad taste in the mouth of many parents (voters) and even neutrals like myself are disgusted about the blatant abuse when I heard about it :mad:

[birdy]

Yes, the school headmaster is guilty of breaking the Jabatan Pelajaran Negeri orders by inviting a politician to school to "officiate" an event. If enough parents complain to the Ministry, he can be reprimanded or transfered for breaking the General Orders (Perintah Am) of civil service.

Madam Ong has no official rights to be in any Lick Hung events (or any other SJKC in Subang area) as she is no longer a parent of a school going children, she is not a PIBG Committee member anymore nor is she a member of the Board of Governors. She is just a plain politician and has no right to attend whatsoever and in breach of Government rulings. :mad
What if this is directive from the Ministry? :rolleyes: I don't think the headmaster has such influence since the ceremony combines 3 schools, Lick Hung, SK SS19 and another school (which I didn't pay attention, coz I have collected the money :p)

[wongjie90]

Agree, dont see anything wrong with giving the cheque to the children. School has full record of parent/guardian name. Just put any of the name will do. I am still thinking how to sneak an hour/2 out to get the monies. Dont take also stupid, take also stupid. Easily take 2 hours plus travelling and waiting. Why not give 2-3 days to collect the monies????
if a school having 3000 students and do you think who want to issue the cheque ?

[currymee]

Eeerrrrr .... guys and gals .... let's CHILL OUT about POLITICIANS here .... I will start another thread on this in the main forum :)

It is already susah for me to wake up to reply to a few PMs and emails telling me that I should not "blast" MCA politicians in a school forum so openly and in public domain, afterwards, SJKC Lick Hung will not GET ANY MORE GOVT/MCA FUNDING assistance .... then we all will be suffering. I have a different point of view on this but I shall leave it to another thread .... :rolleyes: http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?p=525545#post525545

So I don't want to risk having the school forum closed as a result of an over-zealous "ball-carrying" HM and a "wanna-be" politician - they are NOT WORTH it !! :p

We can BLAST them in another thread !!! :p :p :D :D My bazookas are FULLY LOADED already !!! :D

[currymee]

HAPPY NOTE - LAST DAY OF SCHOOL TODAY


For Std 1 and 2 (afternoon session) :p :p :p :D :D :D

TOMORROW - CUTI STARTS - see below , no joke !! :p :p

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/Schoolholiday18112011.jpg

[currymee]

UPSR RESULT (2011) OUT TODAY (17/11/2011)

How did LH perform ? :confused:

Any news from senior parents ?

[currymee]

MY APOLOGIES :o

Some parents have emailed and PM me their disappointment that I have brought "politics" and "shame" into the school thread/forum and to the school by highlighting its "short-comings".

To these parents, my sincerest apologies :o :o

Please note that I will highlight ANY FORM ABUSES (political or non-political) if it happens to or at SJKC Lick Hung until all my children leave the school, after that I have no direct interest anymore. Yes, this is deviating from my original intention for the forum but then, at that time, I was naive and did not know that it was this bad ... :( and official channel (through PIBG AGM) does not work due to the "choy tan" AJK and HM stranglehold, so that is a DEAD END.

So for those people who don't like me to "say and highlight" bad things happening in Lick Hung, please be patient, just wait, only a few more years to go .... :D :D

My intention is TO SEE LICK HUNG RUN LIKE A TOP-NOTCH SCHOOL IN ALL ASPECTS and deserving of all its awards (Cluster, HPS) and live up to its motto .... I believe if there is something "wrong" or not right, highlight, correct it and perform better ... NOT SWEEP UNDER THE CARPET and pretend it is not there .... OR ELSE the school might as well throw away its motto " TO PERFORM, TO LEAD, TO BE THE BEST "

It is important for LH to do the RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT WAY AND RIGHT MANNER if you want to perform, to lead and to be the best ... ;)





To those parents that say that SJKC Chee Wen and SJKC Tan Cheng Lock are better off since I don't comment about them ... well ....

The other SJKCs in SJ/USJ are of no direct concern to me, so there is no need for me "kay-poh" there ;) ... the parents there can take care of it themselves IF they want to - their kids, their school, their "sufferings". I know that there is a strong active group of parents in Chee Wen (kudos to them) - that is why we are CALLED PARENTS (ibubapa) in the PIBG (PTA) .... I will lend moral support and give an opinion or two on COMMON issues (again since it also affects Lick Hung :rolleyes: )

I have NO PERSONAL AGENDAs against anyone EXCEPT JUST DON'T ABUSE THE PARENTS' TRUST ... because I am one of them ... :)

[currymee]

Education Ministry: More English lesson in schools

OK, I fully support this move but just wondering .... how the school is going to squeeze in more periods into an already jam-packed time-table ? :confused: :confused: .... extract: while national-type Chinese and Tamil schools have 120 minutes now, compared with 60 minutes previously.... so we DOUBLE the amount :)

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/16/nation/20111116181013&sec=nation

[jan tomaswaki]

Well said,CM,anyway want to bet a bowl of Choy Kee curry mee for UPSR results,should know by now...83% i bet ,any takers????/any more??? :D

[currymee]

Well said,CM,anyway want to bet a bowl of Choy Kee curry mee for UPSR results,should know by now...83% i bet ,any takers????/any more??? :D

Jan,

You are a wily old fox ... dare not bet against you leh .... :D :D :D

[jan tomaswaki]

Jan,

You are a wily old fox ... dare not bet against you leh .... :D :D :D
Aiyah ..one bowl only mah not need kar liew..

[aerobax]

CM,

No need to apologise for you have been doing an invaluable community service for many LH parents. Although focused on Lick Hung, I am sure many parents of other schools are also following the forum as it provides them with other parent's views and insights about education. This may have helped many parents albeit they are not as open and vocal as we are here. Like the motto - "to perform, to LEAD, to be the best "

As for the other SJKCs in SJ/USJ, I know that some of the parents (my own relations) have mentioned that they wished they also have something like this for their own schools.

Keep up the good work, you have my support. Lick Hung is very lucky but I think the school management, especially the headmaster and PIBG AJK may not agree with this point !


MY APOLOGIES :o

Some parents have emailed and PM me their disappointment that I have brought "politics" and "shame" into the school thread/forum and to the school by highlighting its "short-comings".

To these parents, my sincerest apologies :o :o

Please note that I will highlight ANY FORM ABUSES (political or non-political) if it happens to or at SJKC Lick Hung until all my children leave the school, after that I have no direct interest anymore. Yes, this is deviating from my original intention for the forum but then, at that time, I was naive and did not know that it was this bad ... :( and official channel (through PIBG AGM) does not work due to the "choy tan" AJK and HM stranglehold, so that is a DEAD END.

So for those people who don't like me to "say and highlight" bad things happening in Lick Hung, please be patient, just wait, only a few more years to go .... :D :D

My intention is TO SEE LICK HUNG RUN LIKE A TOP-NOTCH SCHOOL IN ALL ASPECTS and deserving of all its awards (Cluster, HPS) and live up to its motto .... I believe if there is something "wrong" or not right, highlight, correct it and perform better ... NOT SWEEP UNDER THE CARPET and pretend it is not there .... OR ELSE the school might as well throw away its motto " TO PERFORM, TO LEAD, TO BE THE BEST "

It is important for LH to do the RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT WAY AND RIGHT MANNER if you want to perform, to lead and to be the best ... ;)





To those parents that say that SJKC Chee Wen and SJKC Tan Cheng Lock are better off since I don't comment about them ... well ....

The other SJKCs in SJ/USJ are of no direct concern to me, so there is no need for me "kay-poh" there ;) ... the parents there can take care of it themselves IF they want to - their kids, their school, their "sufferings". I know that there is a strong active group of parents in Chee Wen (kudos to them) - that is why we are CALLED PARENTS (ibubapa) in the PIBG (PTA) .... I will lend moral support and give an opinion or two on COMMON issues (again since it also affects Lick Hung :rolleyes: )

I have NO PERSONAL AGENDAs against anyone EXCEPT JUST DON'T ABUSE THE PARENTS' TRUST ... because I am one of them ... :)

[chookyan]

[QUOTE=currymee]... so Mdm Ong is a YBhg - Yang Berbahagia - the honorific salutation in front of a Datukship etc ....

FYI - YB (Yang Berhormat) is exclusively reserved for ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE of the people ;) - sorry, you are not it !! SJ/USJ residents in majority did not elect you in 2008 .... :rolleyes:

One Sunday she was going around one of the coffee shop in USJ and I happened to be there, she asked one auntie in mandarin 'Do you know who am I?" The auntie answered back " Who are you and why should I know you?" I could not stop :D :D :D eventhough I don't speak mandarin :p

[currymee]

PPSMI @ Secondary School Level Support Letter Drive

There are a few pro-active parents outside Lick Hung main gate and on the Kett Star side just now during morning session break, asking for parents to sign a petition to support PPSMI (teaching of Science and Mathematics in English) especially AT SECONDARY SCHOOL LEVEL. They continue to support Lick Hung and all SJKCs to continue teaching both Science and Maths in both languages but their main aim or target is for PPSMI to continue at SECONDARY LEVEL.

If you feel strongly and would like to support, they should be around during the afternoon school break (6:00 - 6:30pm) this evening. I have already done my bit :)

[fongkimseng]

Political ceramah by YB Ong Chong Swan. :mad: only 2 classes + 15 from 1 class selected. The rest of the classes can walk in and collect.

My daughter-in-law came home yesterday evening FUMING MAD as well a result of the "deception" too. :mad:

She went to Lick Hung on her "delayed" lunch break and they made her stayed on before giving the money and she did not have any lunch as a result .... BAD MOVE to anger a hungry mother !! :rolleyes:

[fongkimseng]

MY APOLOGIES :o

Some parents have emailed and PM me their disappointment that I have brought "politics" and "shame" into the school thread/forum and to the school by highlighting its "short-comings".

To these parents, my sincerest apologies :o :o

Please note that I will highlight ANY FORM ABUSES (political or non-political) if it happens to or at SJKC Lick Hung until all my children leave the school, after that I have no direct interest anymore. Yes, this is deviating from my original intention for the forum but then, at that time, I was naive and did not know that it was this bad ... :( and official channel (through PIBG AGM) does not work due to the "choy tan" AJK and HM stranglehold, so that is a DEAD END.

So for those people who don't like me to "say and highlight" bad things happening in Lick Hung, please be patient, just wait, only a few more years to go .... :D

My intention is TO SEE LICK HUNG RUN LIKE A TOP-NOTCH SCHOOL IN ALL ASPECTS and deserving of all its awards (Cluster, HPS) and live up to its motto .... I believe if there is something "wrong" or not right, highlight, correct it and perform better ... NOT SWEEP UNDER THE CARPET and pretend it is not there .... OR ELSE the school might as well throw away its motto " TO PERFORM, TO LEAD, TO BE THE BEST "

It is important for LH to do the RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT WAY AND RIGHT MANNER if you want to perform, to lead and to be the best ... ;)


To those parents that say that SJKC Chee Wen and SJKC Tan Cheng Lock are better off since I don't comment about them ... well ....

The other SJKCs in SJ/USJ are of no direct concern to me, so there is no need for me "kay-poh" there ;) ... the parents there can take care of it themselves IF they want to - their kids, their school, their "sufferings". I know that there is a strong active group of parents in Chee Wen (kudos to them) - that is why we are CALLED PARENTS (ibubapa) in the PIBG (PTA) .... I will lend moral support and give an opinion or two on COMMON issues (again since it also affects Lick Hung :rolleyes: )

I have NO PERSONAL AGENDAs against anyone EXCEPT JUST DON'T ABUSE THE PARENTS' TRUST ... because I am one of them ... :)

Currymee,

Just remember to DO THE RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT WAY AND RIGHT MANNER too when you discuss about Lick Hung :)

Try to avoid getting too emotional or personal as you have not heard the other side's story or reasoning.

For example, Madam Ong could be totally innocent in that she did not claim herself to be a YB (Yang Berhormat) but others, being typical Malaysian, may want to "bodek" her and thus refer to her as such.

In this context, it is UNFAIR to say bad things about her but should be directed towards those "kaki-bodeks".

Just my reminder for you to remain fair and objective - you are doing a good community service, keep it up !

[fongkimseng]

Currymee,

Another point to bear in mind is that you cannot please all the people in this world ;) Don't try to do that. Don't apologise for doing the RIGHT THING.

Most importantly is for you to try to remain fair, ethical and keep your integrity.

People in power/authority (HM, PIBG AJK, politician, policeman, school teachers etc) will never like people who question them on anything. And if any of them were to tell you that they welcome feedbacks (negative ones) is a two-face liar.

People love praises, it is human nature. Thus, when you have to criticise, always BE FAIR, CONSTRUCTIVE AND OBJECTIVE, avoid emotional outbursts, personal mud-slinging and ridiculing anyone. Then you will get their respect and ears however reluctant they may be.

Simple advice from another "wily old fox" :D - no free bowl of currymee needed :rolleyes:

[currymee]

Currymee,

Another point to bear in mind is that you cannot please all the people in this world ;) Don't try to do that. Don't apologise for doing the RIGHT THING.

Most importantly is for you to try to remain fair, ethical and keep your integrity.

People in power/authority (HM, PIBG AJK, politician, policeman, school teachers etc) will never like people who question them on anything. And if any of them were to tell you that they welcome feedbacks (negative ones) is a two-face liar.

People love praises, it is human nature. Thus, when you have to criticise, always BE FAIR, CONSTRUCTIVE AND OBJECTIVE, avoid emotional outbursts, personal mud-slinging and ridiculing anyone. Then you will get their respect and ears however reluctant they may be.

Simple advice from another "wily old fox" :D - no free bowl of currymee needed :rolleyes:

Cikgu Fong,

Thank you for sharing your words of wisdom and advices given. I understand and have noted what you advised. :)

Please check your PM - I have send you some ;)

If I must add, you are a "wise wily old fox" :p

[currymee]

Extracted from BN Playing Politics in School thread ....

Although it is political, I am highlighting it here as I know the school management reads this thread/forum and it is IMPORTANT for them to know that they have made a SERIOUS faux pas (bad move) in forcing parents to SIGN OVER the RM100 money and attend the "ceramah"... hope they will take note and call these parents and apologise to them and work out something to return the money, it is not worth it - don't be foolish !! As far as I know, some of these parents are very, very angry with Lick Hung and MCA ....



Yes, it has already BACKFIRED BIG TIME in Lick Hung :p . I was told by some parents yesterday that to make things worse, parents that refused to attend the "ceramah" were FORCED TO SIGN OVER THE RM100 MONEY AS DONATIONS TO THE SCHOOL !!!!!! :eek: :mad: These parents are seething after reading the newspapers that schools are not allowed to do so ... aiyah, Lick Hung, ARE YOU CRAZY ? Don't touch this money - it is TOO POLITICAL !! :(

If Lick Hung school management is reading, they better rectify this asap before they kena reprimand from MoE and FORCED TO RETURN THE MONEY (no face - shamed), other schools have already got whacked for doing similar things (see below) ....

School told to return money it deducted from RM100 aid
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/17/nation/20111117144107&sec=nation

PTA took RM100 aid, says parent
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/11/17/nation/9922577&sec=nation

[currymee]

HAPPY SHOOL HOLIDAYS everyone .... :) :)

My family and I are going on our annual holiday starting this evening .... LANGKAWI here we come :) :)

The Daddy deserves this HOLIDAY ;) .... enough exam stress and distress already both in-and-out of classrooms of Lick Hung :p

[Busy Mom]

HAPPY SHOOL HOLIDAYS everyone .... :) :)

My family and I are going on our annual holiday starting this evening .... LANGKAWI here we come :) :)

The Daddy deserves this HOLIDAY ;) .... enough exam stress and distress already both in-and-out of classrooms of Lick Hung :p
Happy holidays Currymee....be sure to put the cable ride as part of your itinerary. One of the things too good to miss.. :)

Happy holidays too to all children and parents as well.

Just collected my gal's report card, graduation cert and photos from the kindy. With this, it closes this chapter of her life and a new one will begin soon at LH :) *being abit sentimental*.. :p

[QuietStorm]

My family and I are going on our annual holiday starting this evening .... LANGKAWI here we come :) :)Currymee, happy holidays, my man! I almost went to Langkawi a couple of weeks ago but a job ended on my lap, so it was no go. :(

Happy Hols to all! :D

[Totoro2010]

Happy holidays, currymee :D ...I have not travelled to Langkawi with my children yet, but this year don't have leave liao :p , hope next year can plan to go there :rolleyes:

Happy holidays to all the children and parents as well :D :D

[Mommy]

Happy Holidays!!!

[currymee]

TRANSLATION HELP REQUIRED PLEASE

I got a not-so-nice email telling me that I should learn Mandarin and read Chinese newspapers before I open my BIG mouth on any topic about SJKC Lick Hung. The emailer also said ".... that Lick Hung disseminates information to the public regularly but too bad, I am a BANANA and don't understand. It is not the school's fault, that I am an incompetent parent ...." :rolleyes: - I don't know who the emailer is, but hey, I am getting AN ANSWER AT LAST - albeit, not as pleasant as I hoped for ... :p :p but I can live with that ... :)

The emailer also included the following hyperlinks and from what I can figure out, they are related to the school new block.

Since like the emailer said, I am a BANANA and don't read Mandarin, perhaps, some kind forumer who does, can help to extract key points for me - a non-Mandarin reading parent :o :o

http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/216302

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/226565?tid=1


PS: I think I must have hit a few RAW NERVES with my recent posts on SJKC Lick Hung management, Madam Ong, MCA and RM100 rebate ... :p :p

[Rhiga]

Bro,

My secretary just helped me to translate all these difficult links because I suddenly striked by partial amnesia, I forgot some Chinese words oredi.. :D

The 1st link is from chinapress – the pibg chairman (don’t know how to translate his rather difficult name) said on 14th Nov, the school needs 1.8 millions to construct new block and so far has collected 1 mil i.e. still short of 800k..

2nd link is from Sin Chew – the Sin Chew's CEO said for the past 18 years, Sin Chew in collaboration with Tiger Beer had raised total of 3.3 millions from 4 Tiger charity show. That’s all, no mention of how much LH needed and still short of…

Pardon my secretary’s poor command in Mandarin… I literaliy translate what she told me in her broken mandarin to my broken ingeris... :D

Cheers

[currymee]

Bro,

My secretary just helped me to translate all these difficult links because I suddenly striked by partial amnesia, I forgot some Chinese words oredi.. :D

The 1st link is from chinapress – the pibg chairman (don’t know how to translate his rather difficult name) said on (CORRECTION: 14th May not 14th Nov ;) ), the school needs 1.8 millions and so far has collected 1mil i.e. still short of 800k..

2nd link is from Sin Chew – the Sin Chew's CEO said for the past 18 years, Sin Chew in collaboration with Tiger Beer had raised total of 3.3 millions from 4 Tiger charity show. That’s all, no mention of how much LH needed and still short of… (looks like from the photo, LH is getting RM384,896.00 from Tiger-Sin Chew - TQ)

Pardon my secretary’s poor command in Mandarin… I literaliy translate what she told me in her broken mandarin to my broken ingeris... :D

Cheers

Thanks Bro,

So if Lick Hung only needs RM1.8 million to build the new block (and short of RM800k then, last I heard from the news-at-main-gate, is that it is reduced to RM200K or less - God knows which number is correct now :confused: ) then why he said RM4-5 million in the last two PIBG AGM then ?? or is my oral Mandarin so shitty that I cannot differentiate 1.8 from 4 and 5 :p :p :p

OK, let's give them the benefit of doubt that my oral Mandarin is shitty, so why don't they just tell the parents openly in a notice then ... since the amount (if it is RM1.8million) is very reasonable for such a building ? :confused:

I smell rotten fish somewhere ...

BTW, please say TQ to your "secretary" for me ;) most appreciated service.

[currymee]

Busy Mom, Mommy, Totoro and QS,

Thanks :D - HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you all too :D :D

[aerobax]

TRANSLATION HELP REQUIRED PLEASE

I got a not-so-nice email telling me that I should learn Mandarin and read Chinese newspapers before I open my BIG mouth on any topic about SJKC Lick Hung. The emailer also said ".... that Lick Hung disseminates information to the public regularly but too bad, I am a BANANA and don't understand. It is not the school's fault, that I am an incompetent parent ...." :rolleyes: - I don't know who the emailer is, but hey, I am getting AN ANSWER AT LAST - albeit, not as pleasant as I hoped for ... :p :p but I can live with that ... :)

The emailer also included the following hyperlinks and from what I can figure out, they are related to the school new block.

Since like the emailer said, I am a BANANA and don't read Mandarin, perhaps, some kind forumer who does, can help to extract key points for me - a non-Mandarin reading parent :o :o

http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/216302

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/226565?tid=1


PS: I think I must have hit a few RAW NERVES with my recent posts on SJKC Lick Hung management, Madam Ong, MCA and RM100 rebate ... :p :p

More likely, you must have severed a jugular to get a response like that ... :D

[QuietStorm]

BTW, please say TQ to your "secretary" for me ;) most appreciated service.The inverted commas have made my day. So farrny 1. :D:D:D.

[currymee]

QS, in this life, without a sense of humour - TOUGH TO LIVE !! ;)

Anyway, see you all next week, I am OFF to the airport soon - HOLIDAY LIOW !!!!! :p :D

Anybody wants to "fight" in this thread, please GO AHEAD and HAVE FUN .... ;) :D BTW, if anyone got any news on LH UPSR 2011 performance, please post !!!

Like Choy Kee, the school holiday is BAD for business and SLOW for forum school discussions .... :eek: :p :p

[QuietStorm]

QS, in this life, without a sense of humour - TOUGH TO LIVE !! ;) I agree wholeheartedly. :D
Anyway, see you all next week, I am OFF to the airport soon - HOLIDAY LIOW !!!!! :p :D I'm sure there is free wifi in the hotel. Dude, you can still log in lah. Come on! :p :D:D

[Mommy]

My son's aunty driver said this year got 113 got 7As. Dunno how true.

[aerobax]

My son's aunty driver said this year got 113 got 7As. Dunno how true.

It is true - here is the news link (in Mandarin)

http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/269379

but there is no mention of overall percentage of passes.

Quite a big drop from previous year (2010) for those students obtaining 7As from 165 (2010) to 113 (2011) - but the number of candidates is smaller.

Perhaps some of the teachers who visit the forum can furnish us with more accurate news.

[kwchang]

....My secretary just helped me to translate all these difficult links...
I also have a "secretary" and she is the Google Translator (maybe same secretary? ;) ) ... so if you were to click on the following, you can see the Chinese websites in English -

a) for China Press (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinapress.com.my%2Fnode%2F2163 02&act=url)

b) for Sin Chew ( http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sinchew.com.my%2Fnode%2F2265 65%3Ftid%3D1)

of course, they being machine translators, there are imperfections and one does need to read in context

With google translate, I can surf the world with no problem

[Rhiga]

I also have a "secretary" and she is the Google Translator (maybe same secretary? ;) ) ... so if you were to click on the following, you can see the Chinese websites in English -

a) for China Press (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinapress.com.my%2Fnode%2F2163 02&act=url)

b) for Sin Chew ( http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sinchew.com.my%2Fnode%2F2265 65%3Ftid%3D1)

of course, they being machine translators, there are imperfections and one does need to read in context

With google translate, I can surf the world with no problem

Well, be very careful with machine… remember the fiasco when the PRC leader visited UM. The welcome banner was translated using Google Translate, and the 1PM has to apologize to his PRC’s counterpart on behalf of his substandard bureaucrats.

Ps. I am relatively ok in this two languages and hence I always try to have some fun/thrill when I watched DVD by switching on the subtitles in the opposite language... For those who can understand English and Mandarin, please do so and is full of fun reading the machine translation which appear in the subtitles.. extra entertainment apart from the movie… :D

[wongjie90]

It is true - here is the news link (in Mandarin)

http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/269379

but there is no mention of overall percentage of passes.

Quite a big drop from previous year (2010) for those students obtaining 7As from 165 (2010) to 113 (2011) - but the number of candidates is smaller.

Perhaps some of the teachers who visit the forum can furnish us with more accurate news.
According to the link from Chinapress （他透露，雖然今年的應考生人數下降，但考獲7A的學生巴仙率從去年的18.97%增至今年21.77%， 比去年進步3%。）and your statement of "Quite a big drop from previous year (2010) for those students obtaining 7As from 165 (2010) to 113 (2011) - but the number of candidates is smaller.", it is confused. The no of 7A's student is increase or reduce ????

[aerobax]

According to the link from Chinapress （他透露，雖然今年的應考生人數下降，但考獲7A的學生巴仙率從去年的18.97%增至今年21.77%， 比去年進步3%。）and your statement of "Quite a big drop from previous year (2010) for those students obtaining 7As from 165 (2010) to 113 (2011) - but the number of candidates is smaller.", it is confused. The no of 7A's student is increase or reduce ????

I was refering to absolute total number (as in 165 students got 7As in 2010 versus 113 students got 7As in 2011 - so an actual decrease by 52 students getting 7As) while the school reported percentage of 7As out of total candidates (if my maths is correct) ... anyway I could be wrong, ... like kwchang, I also use Google translator.

Does anyone know what is the total percentage of passes ? Previous year, it was around 88%. I heard some parents mentioned that it has dropped also.

[Naka]

I also have a "secretary" and she is the Google Translator (maybe same secretary? ;) ) ... so if you were to click on the following, you can see the Chinese websites in English -

a) for China Press (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinapress.com.my%2Fnode%2F2163 02&act=url)

b) for Sin Chew ( http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=%20http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sinchew.com.my%2Fnode%2F2265 65%3Ftid%3D1)

of course, they being machine translators, there are imperfections and one does need to read in context

With google translate, I can surf the world with no problem

Not only that, you have to listen & hear if it is correctly translated :D ;)

[cupofcoffee]

Standard 3 (2012) Morning Class schedule ?

Can some senior parents with children in the morning session confirm the following ?

Some parents have said the following but after comparing with other SJKCs, they also become not so sure.

1) Have to be in class by 7:00 AM

2) Morning session classes start at 7:15 AM ? - (other SJKCs start at 7:30am)

3) Morning session ends at 12:50 PM

The school did not inform the Standard 2 children as to the time schedule when they switch over to the morning session next year. :( Some of us first time "morning session" parents are guessing.

[fRaNkY]

7.15am but u wanna reach before that, less jam.

[fRaNkY]

I was refering to absolute total number (as in 165 students got 7As in 2010 versus 113 students got 7As in 2011 - so an actual decrease by 52 students getting 7As) while the school reported percentage of 7As out of total candidates (if my maths is correct) ... anyway I could be wrong, ... like kwchang, I also use Google translator.

Does anyone know what is the total percentage of passes ? Previous year, it was around 88%. I heard some parents mentioned that it has dropped also.

Heard 131.

7As = $200, 6As = $80, got cash bonus from pibg. 5As nope.

[currymee]

I'm sure there is free wifi in the hotel. Dude, you can still log in lah. Come on! :p :D:D

Back already, short weekend trip - 3 days 2 nights ... yup, hotel in Langkawi (*rain* :( ) got Wi-fi BUT www.usj.com.my DOWN AGAIN wor ... :p :p - anyway, had a good break and rest ... EAT, SLEEP, "ahem" ;) , then EAT, SLEEP again ... :D

[currymee]

I was refering to absolute total number (as in 165 students got 7As in 2010 versus 113 students got 7As in 2011 - so an actual decrease by 52 students getting 7As) while the school reported percentage of 7As out of total candidates (if my maths is correct) ... anyway I could be wrong, ... like kwchang, I also use Google translator.

Does anyone know what is the total percentage of passes ? Previous year, it was around 88%. I heard some parents mentioned that it has dropped also.


Playing STATISTICS again ? Look ... never mind what Lick Hung gets ...

Sorry to be blunt and straight so early ..... As far as PARENTS ARE TRULY CONCERNED .... it is what their children get that matters .... what Lick Hung gets is what the HM and schhol teachers worry about (affect their bonuses) ... NOT US !! :p :p So what if Lick Hung gets 99.99% PASSES BUT your child is "unfortunately" the 0.01% - you wouldn't give a "monkey" to the other 99.99% would you ... ? That is a FACT !!

[currymee]

Playing STATISTICS again ? Look ... never mind what Lick Hung gets ...

Sorry to be blunt and straight so early ..... As far as PARENTS ARE TRULY CONCERNED .... it is what their children get that matters .... what Lick Hung gets is what the HM and school teachers worry about (affect their bonuses) ... NOT US !! :p :p So what if Lick Hung gets 99.99% PASSES BUT your child is "unfortunately" the 0.01% - you wouldn't give a "monkey" to the other 99.99% would you ... ? That is a FACT !!

I got an email telling me why I cannot enjoy Lick Hung successes also and why I must be so blunt .... ?

Oklah ... sorry-lah :o :o

CONGRATULATIONS TO LICK HUNG AND ALL THE CHILDREN !! :) :D :D

[Mommy]

I got an email telling me why I cannot enjoy Lick Hung successes also and why I must be so blunt .... ?

Oklah ... sorry-lah :o :o

CONGRATULATIONS TO LICK HUNG AND ALL THE CHILDREN !! :) :D :D


THIS IS CUTE
:p

[rachel sj]

7.15am but u wanna reach before that, less jam.

Oh dear, I was not aware of this until I read the post...

no wonder my transporter says to get ready by 6:30 am.

if the class starts at 7:15 am what time should the kids be in school ? I hope the sky is bright at 7 am in the morning, else, I have problem waking her up :p

and Yes, no proper notice from Lick Hung was given to std 2 students, they either expect all parents to find this out or they think all parents have older kids in the morning session?

[fRaNkY]

Std 5 students starts their upsr tuition today! For 2weeks

[fRaNkY]

Oh dear, I was not aware of this until I read the post...

no wonder my transporter says to get ready by 6:30 am.

if the class starts at 7:15 am what time should the kids be in school ? I hope the sky is bright at 7 am in the morning, else, I have problem waking her up :p

and Yes, no proper notice from Lick Hung was given to std 2 students, they either expect all parents to find this out or they think all parents have older kids in the morning session?

Thought it was always 7.15am, need to tell .....????
By 7am they school bit crowded

[currymee]

Oh dear, I was not aware of this until I read the post...

no wonder my transporter says to get ready by 6:30 am.

if the class starts at 7:15 am what time should the kids be in school ? I hope the sky is bright at 7 am in the morning, else, I have problem waking her up :p

and Yes, no proper notice from Lick Hung was given to std 2 students, they either expect all parents to find this out or they think all parents have older kids in the morning session?

That is why we EXIST, IF they are super efficient, we are CLOSED already :eek: .... :D :D


Thought it was always 7.15am, need to tell .....????
By 7am they school bit crowded

So far, the only primary school that I know that start classes at 7:15AM is Lick Hung (15 mins earlier) - the others that I know (SK and SJKC) start at 7:30AM :) - never mind, LH students work "extra" 15 minutes more per day - jia yu, jia yu !! :p

[rachel sj]

I remembered my old SRJK(C) school (in KL) started classes at 7:45 am la and students assembled on field by 7:30 am.

Not knowing different schools have different school hours.

Thanks for the info. :)

[rachel sj]

I read old posts last week but none about parents going to school to claim RM100 cash?

I hope all parents in this thread have exercised our right for this, I purposesly drove back from KL to claim that RM100 and drove back to KL to attend meetings in the office !

[currymee]

I remembered my old SRJK(C) school (in KL) started classes at 7:45 am la and students assembled on field by 7:30 am.

Not knowing different schools have different school hours.

Thanks for the info. :)

Rachel,

Furthermore, please remind your daughter that in the morning session (Std 3-6), the children GO STRAIGHT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE CLASSES upon arrival and not assembled in the canteen or car park like Std 1 and Std 2.

The class location (usually remain unhanged but anything can happen in Lick Hung !! :rolleyes: ) will be made available for viewing at the MAIN GUARDHOUSE WINDOW or the notice board at the canteen (next to staircase to the office) a few days before the start of school. (Note: from what I have seen of the "old" class location map, Std 3 and Std 1 share the same classrooms, so the our kids will go back to their old Std 1 (2010) classrooms for Std 3 in 2012 !)

I was also informed by other senior parents (TBC) that on the first day of school, parents are allowed to come into school and PAY THE BILLS/FEES :rolleyes: :p :p - (TO BE CONFIRMED) !!

[currymee]

I read old posts last week but none about parents going to school to claim RM100 cash?

I hope all parents in this thread have exercised our right for this, I purposesly drove back from KL to claim that RM100 and drove back to KL to attend meetings in the office !

GOT :D - all taken and spent already .... :o :o Just enough to buy 2 sets of school uniform at Jaya Jusco last weekend ... ngam ngam ... no more no less ....

[rachel sj]

GOT :D - all taken and spent already .... :o :o Just enough to buy 2 sets of school uniform at Jaya Jusco last weekend ... ngam ngam ... no more no less ....

currymee, the material of unifrom from Jaya Jusco not so good/smooth. I usually buy from the uniform shop in SS 15 (beside HL bank and opp new mall, 1st Subang). You can even ask them to sew the badge for free :)

I am starting to hunt for trolley bag again...any recommendations ?

[currymee]

currymee, the material of unifrom from Jaya Jusco not so good/smooth. I usually buy from the uniform shop in SS 15 (beside HL bank and opp new mall, 1st Subang). You can even ask them to sew the badge for free :)

I am starting to hunt for trolley bag again...any recommendations ?

IMHO ... good deals and bargains ... go to EASY CARRIER shop (at Summit Shopping Centre USJ, Ground floor) - go with the SMILEY brands ... cheaper and just as good as Swan (fyi - the maker of Smiley ( http://www.taiping-poly.com/index.asp ) also make bags for Jusco etc ... http://www.taiping-poly.com/client.asp
)

Their own brand SMILEY starts from RM49.99 all the way to RM100+ ... I just buy the RM49.99 and if koyak, then just replace, the only weak part that I noticed is the part where the trolley handle joins to the bag at the base, so when it comes out, I just SUPER-GLUE back, (it came out after 6 months as my son was pulling it UPWARDS to go UPSTAIRS, not designed for such method of use :rolleyes: ) and it has lasted since ... wow, will still use next year !! :D

Don't ask me how I end up knowing all these .... :p :p

[currymee]

IMHO ... good deals and bargains ... go to EASY CARRIER shop (at Summit Shopping Centre USJ, Ground floor) - go with the SMILEY brands ... cheaper and just as good as Swan (fyi - the maker of Smiley ( http://www.taiping-poly.com/index.asp ) also make bags for Jusco etc ... http://www.taiping-poly.com/client.asp
)

Their own brand SMILEY starts from RM49.99 all the way to RM100+ ... I just buy the RM49.99 and if koyak, then just replace, the only weak part that I noticed is the part where the trolley handle joins to the bag at the base, so when it comes out, I just SUPER-GLUE back, (it came out after 6 months as my son was pulling it UPWARDS to go UPSTAIRS, not designed for such method of use :rolleyes: ) and it has lasted since ... wow, will still use next year !! :D

Don't ask me how I end up knowing all these .... :p :p

Someone emailed me why I recommend a SPECIFIC shop, just mention "brand" will do ... True, I could do that but I prefer to tell you the full details as to what I recommend, where I bought it and roughly (if I remember correctly) how much I paid. Whether you patron that shop or not .... your choice your money ... ;) I don't like to give "hanging" information ;) .

No, I don't have any share/interest in that shop, I am just informing you what I bought for my son. As a matter of fact, I found the place and brand from another parent's advice .... long time ago .... :cool:


Can check on the 'smiley' brand at Jusco or Summit, reasonable price and good quality too.

[fRaNkY]

That is why we EXIST, IF they are super efficient, we are CLOSED already :eek: .... :D :D



So far, the only primary school that I know that start classes at 7:15AM is Lick Hung (15 mins earlier) - the others that I know (SK and SJKC) start at 7:30AM :) - never mind, LH students work "extra" 15 minutes more per day - jia yu, jia yu !! :p

Noticed the school next door starts at 7.30 so maybe thats another reason. Less congestion.

[currymee]

Noticed the school next door starts at 7.30 so maybe thats another reason. Less congestion.

I think you are SPOT ON .... but why not later huh ? Say 7:45 AM instead of 7:15am ... :p :p - just joking !!! :D - you are talking to a love-to-sleep in father .... ;)

[elea1]

Someone emailed me why I recommend a SPECIFIC shop, just mention "brand" will do ... True, I could do that but I prefer to tell you the full details as to what I recommend, where I bought it and roughly (if I remember correctly) how much I paid. Whether you patron that shop or not .... your choice your money ... ;) I don't like to give "hanging" information ;) .

No, I don't have any share/interest in that shop, I am just informing you what I bought for my son. As a matter of fact, I found the place and brand from another parent's advice .... long time ago .... :cool:

Actually been trying to find smiley brand..thanks for recommending the location.

[Totoro2010]

GOT :D - all taken and spent already .... :o :o Just enough to buy 2 sets of school uniform at Jaya Jusco last weekend ... ngam ngam ... no more no less ....
Just received the brochure of Jusco back to school sales, the promotion is from 28/11/11 - 1/1/2012

How come you can have the sales promotion before 28/11/11? :rolleyes: :D :D

[currymee]

Just received the brochure of Jusco back to school sales, the promotion is from 28/11/11 - 1/1/2012

How come you can have the sales promotion before 28/11/11? :rolleyes: :D :D

Jusco has been having promotions/sales "continuously" since Jan 1st, I cannot even remember when one stops and the next one starts .... :p :p :D :D Each time I walk in, I see the ON SALE sign wor .... :o :D

[Totoro2010]

I think you are SPOT ON .... but why not later huh ? Say 7:45 AM instead of 7:15am ... :p :p - just joking !!! :D - you are talking to a love-to-sleep in father .... ;)
7.45am, good suggestion if all students are morning sessions :p :D :D

May be the school Management/PIBG can consider Mr Currymee's suggestion when the new block is ready and morning session is fully implemented :rolleyes: :D :D

[currymee]

7.45am, good suggestion if all students are morning sessions :p :D :D

May be the school Management/PIBG can consider Mr Currymee's suggestion when the new block is ready and morning session is fully implemented :rolleyes: :D :D

NO !!!!! DON'T SAY THAT !!! :eek: Just to spite me ... they may START SCHOOL AT 7:00AM !!! :eek: :p :D

[Totoro2010]

NO !!!!! DON'T SAY THAT !!! :eek: Just to spite me ... they may START SCHOOL AT 7:00AM !!! :eek: :p :D
7.00AM...walao eh :eek:

ok, ok.... I beg your pardon :p

[fRaNkY]

I think you are SPOT ON .... but why not later huh ? Say 7:45 AM instead of 7:15am ... :p :p - just joking !!! :D - you are talking to a love-to-sleep in father .... ;)

If u read the sign again, it says something like "thank you for coming at7.30" meaning the student came much more later, neighbour school. :D

Then again, LH parents are mostly kiasu, so earlier the better :D

[currymee]

If u read the sign again, it says something like "thank you for coming at7.30" meaning the student came much more later, neighbour school. :D

Then again, LH parents are mostly kiasu, so earlier the better :D

In this context, I don't think so .... hehehehe ... :D :D :D

Working backwards, must be in school by, say 7:00AM ... 30mins journey time (incl LH traffic jam) ... = 6:30am, .... 30mins to prepare breakfast and all get ready ....= 6:00am, .... walau, must WAKE UP THE LATEST BY 6:00AM :( :(

fRaNkY, you are a VETERAN here, care to share your example for the rest of us, .... so what is your time estimate ... ? :confused:

[rachel sj]

OMG ! I need to work up my little sleepy-head at 6 am ????

Already it was so tough waking her up at 9 am, left alone 6 am....must start making her go to bed at 9 pm !

[currymee]

OMG ! I need to work up my little sleepy-head at 6 am ????

Already it was so tough waking her up at 9 am, left alone 6 am....must start making her go to bed at 9 pm !

I know .... EXACT SAME SITUATION here :( :( :(

But NO CHOICE ... I have already warned my son and told him to start practising .... aiyoh, "slaughter pig is easier" as per an old Chinese saying :p

[kwchang]

OMG ! I need to work up my little sleepy-head at 6 am ???? ...
How my kids coped back then at LH -
Wake up at 6 or 6:30 (too long ago to remember) and it did not matter if they are still half asleep ...they sleep in the car ! Leave it to the kids, they learn to cope eventually.

Think of the kids in JB ... they get up at 5am? Sleep all the way to Singapore everyday. Going to LH fr anywhere in SJ/USJ is nothing la

[Charbroiled]

Think of the kids in JB ... they get up at 5am? Sleep all the way to Singapore everyday. Going to LH fr anywhere in SJ/USJ is nothing laThey don't know yet but when they join the rat race later in life, they will be glad to have received their education in Sing. It's all going to be worth it. :)

[fRaNkY]

In this context, I don't think so .... hehehehe ... :D :D :D

Working backwards, must be in school by, say 7:00AM ... 30mins journey time (incl LH traffic jam) ... = 6:30am, .... 30mins to prepare breakfast and all get ready ....= 6:00am, .... walau, must WAKE UP THE LATEST BY 6:00AM :( :(

fRaNkY, you are a VETERAN here, care to share your example for the rest of us, .... so what is your time estimate ... ? :confused:

Daughter wakes up at 6am, come down at 6.20. Have a cereal drink. Probably reach school by 6.45am. Breakfast probably during break.

Sometimes she sleeps at 11pm. Dont worry. Kids are hardy. They will find time to nap in between classes or after school.

You just have to wake them up! Alarm clocks dpesnt work :D

[fRaNkY]

Or they can breakfast in the car.

Just get the bags all ready by the door with the shoes.

Girls cut short hair, no need to tie.

Shoes , get no need to tie one.

[wongjie90]

That is why we EXIST, IF they are super efficient, we are CLOSED already :eek: .... :D :D



So far, the only primary school that I know that start classes at 7:15AM is Lick Hung (15 mins earlier) - the others that I know (SK and SJKC) start at 7:30AM :) - never mind, LH students work "extra" 15 minutes more per day - jia yu, jia yu !! :p
Chee Wen already started classes at 7.15am 2 or 3 years ago.

[currymee]

Chee Wen already started classes at 7.15am 2 or 3 years ago.

Thanks wongjie for the update. :) So, we are not the only one - poor LH and Chee Wen kids ... :(

[currymee]

Thanks fRaNkY for the tips .... so it looks like BREAKFAST will be during recess .... ok, got to prepare my son for that, he hates the school canteen ... lousy food according to him.

[kwchang]

... he hates the school canteen ... lousy food according to him. That is a great kid. If all children can decide like that, we won't have canteen people dishing out lousy fare and robbing our innocent children. Please give a pat on his back for me ... that is one matured and wise kid.

Why must food be from canteen? During my whole primary school life, I brought food from home - bottled water or Ribena and biscuits. .... Even today, in my later years of working life, I bring sandwiches from home for lunch. i make my own bread (see the breadmaker thread). This is purely because canteen food is crap and I can make my own lunch for far less cost.

[currymee]

That is a great kid. If all children can decide like that, we won't have canteen people dishing out lousy fare and robbing our innocent children. Please give a pat on his back for me ... that is one matured and wise kid.

Why must food be from canteen? During my whole primary school life, I brought food from home - bottled water or Ribena and biscuits. .... Even today, in my later years of working life, I bring sandwiches from home for lunch. i make my own bread (see the breadmaker thread). This is purely because canteen food is crap and I can make my own lunch for far less cost.

I will do that :)

What I meant by I "got to prepare my son for that" is for me TO PREPARE HIS TAR-PAU BREAKFAST leh :D .... and to tell him that he will be having his main breakfast at school during recess and not at home and EAT FAST (only 15-20minutes available) .... he still dwadles and day-dreaming when makan ..... :( Meal times are at least an hour, he said he likes to chew slowly ....

[kwchang]

...What I meant by I "got to prepare my son for that" is for me TO PREPARE HIS TAR-PAU BREAKFAST leh ....
My apologies to have misunderstood you mentioning the canteen. TarPau to eat at the canteen is the right move. Give yourself a pat on yr back for being a great parent, preparing home food for school. Not many people do that ... but then I remember in my kids' time, the parents send lunch to their kids and by noon-time in LH's canteen you will find all the carrier bags with food and water lined up on the canteen table with the kid's name and class written on them. Do they still practice that?

[currymee]

My apologies to have misunderstood you mentioning the canteen. TarPau to eat at the canteen is the right move. Give yourself a pat on yr back for being a great parent, preparing home food for school. Not many people do that ... but then I remember in my kids' time, the parents send lunch to their kids and by noon-time in LH's canteen you will find all the carrier bags with food and water lined up on the canteen table with the kid's name and class written on them. Do they still practice that?

Yes, it is still the NORMAL practice, I have already enquired about the "system" .... somehow it seems to work .... :D :D

[elea1]

I will do that :)

What I meant by I "got to prepare my son for that" is for me TO PREPARE HIS TAR-PAU BREAKFAST leh :D .... and to tell him that he will be having his main breakfast at school during recess and not at home and EAT FAST (only 15-20minutes available) .... he still dwadles and day-dreaming when makan ..... :( Meal times are at least an hour, he said he likes to chew slowly ....

Honestly this 6am thing... my daughter cope better than me. The training is really good as she is in Std 5 now and since the maid went home.. she prepare all her stuff the night before. Put the school bag near the door.

When she was in STD 3.. there was an incident, we drove all the way to school to realise.. she did not wear her school shoes. That is good training.. Now she wakes up at 5.45am.. before the mummy.

Not to worry. The kids really will cope better than the parents at this 6am game.

[rachel sj]

Or they can breakfast in the car.

Just get the bags all ready by the door with the shoes.

Girls cut short hair, no need to tie.

Shoes , get no need to tie one.

Good advice, thanks franky.

looks like both parents and kids need to go through this hard training to wake up at 6 am next year onwards...(4 long years ahead!).

however, i wont try letting her have breakfast in car, scare my car will slowly be infested with raoches :eek:

[QuietStorm]

however, i wont try letting her have breakfast in car, scare my car will slowly be infested with raoches :eek:That's my rule too. No meals in the car. That's a surefire way of inviting cockroaches into your car!! :eek:

[currymee]

Sorry to sound so "ulu" but this is the FIRST TIME, I have heard of cockcroaches in the car !! :eek: :confused: :confused:

[QuietStorm]

Sorry to sound so "ulu" but this is the FIRST TIME, I have heard of cockcroaches in the car !! :eek: :confused: :confused:Invite me to eat burgers and biscuits in your car..urmm...every two days. That should be good enough. In 3.5 weeks or so, small little roaches will have made your car their home. I don't know why but it works all the time !! :eek:

[currymee]

Invite me to eat burgers and biscuits in your car..urmm...every two days. That should be good enough. In 3.5 weeks or so, small little roaches will have made your car their home. I don't know why but it works all the time !! :eek:


Thanks but no thanks ;) :) :) - you can solve it by going for wash and vacuum every 2 weeks or so :p - go to the one behind the Sports Toto ... decent price :D

[fRaNkY]

Good advice, thanks franky.

looks like both parents and kids need to go through this hard training to wake up at 6 am next year onwards...(4 long years ahead!).

however, i wont try letting her have breakfast in car, scare my car will slowly be infested with raoches :eek:

We got rubber mat in the car than using the carpet ones. Easy to wash of muds from kids shoes and spilled milo.

Well some time due to wake up late, both parent n kid, no choice. Some time kids hungry and stuck in jam how? Roti 60sen lar... Travelling also.

[fRaNkY]

Use serai or pandan leaves at the boot or under the rubber mat :D

[currymee]

LH "unofficial" position on PPSMI until 2015 - as per Kementerian ruling

I had the chance to have breakfast with one of my favourite Lick Hung school teacher by accident (saw her at Parkway, so makan together) :)

I asked her about LH's position about PPSMI. Well, she said as far as the school is concerned, they will follow the Kementerian's directive. As it stands for the moment, PPSMI will still be made available only for those in Std 2 (2011) this year (the last batch) and above and continue with them until 2015. After that, LH will revert 100% back to Mandarin as it is now for the current Std 1 (2011).

However, she said, between friends, it is best for me to continue emphasising Maths and Science in Mandarin for my son as that it what the LH teachers can teach both subjects best in.

[sydneymak]

Why must food be from canteen? During my whole primary school life, I brought food from home - bottled water or Ribena and biscuits. .... Even today, in my later years of working life, I bring sandwiches from home for lunch. i make my own bread (see the breadmaker thread). This is purely because canteen food is crap and I can make my own lunch for far less cost.
I beg ur pardon. Do you mean children MUST buy food from the canteen CANNOT bring food from home? :confused:

[kwchang]

I beg ur pardon. Do you mean children MUST buy food from the canteen CANNOT bring food from home? :confused:
I am afraid you read the post wrongly. I was commenting on currymee's earlier post where he said his son has to eat in the canteen. My comment is about being healthier to bring your own home-prepared food. There is no compulsion to buy canteen food. If you had read my later post, i commented that some of the parents send lunches over for their kids to eat in the canteen.

[currymee]

I beg ur pardon. Do you mean children MUST buy food from the canteen CANNOT bring food from home? :confused:

The children CAN BRING home food and it is best to do so. :) I mentioned that he has to "go to canteen" - means to sit down and eat his food (home packed) properly instead of munching while playing. I know that his class teacher (Std 2) discourages the kids to eat in class but go to canteen instead.

The main thing to teach the kids to avoid is THE JUNK FOOD (snacks) that the canteen sells. Some of these junk foods, don't know what brand, usually are from China, if you know what I mean .... ;) (if you read the news on China's lack of QC for food!) :eek:

I always tell my son if you want any snack or junk food, let me know and we go and buy for you to take to school. Let me buy you "PROPER" junk or snack food ;) - SAFER !!

To give an example is the "seaweed" sold in school canteen, I know my son was tempted, so I took him to Jusco and bought for him the "Nico-Nico" brand instead. He commented that Nico-Nico is more expensive than the school canteen one, I said I know but I trust the QC of this one better. So, if it is expensive, don't take everyday lor ... he said OK, settled :D

[Totoro2010]

When is the recess time of morning session?

[currymee]

When is the recess time of morning session?

Good question :) - I always assumed it is from 9:30am till 10:00am ... but never did confirm it :o Based on the logic of half the time-table ....

Perhaps some senior parents can help here :)

[Totoro2010]

When is the recess time of morning session?

Good question - I always assumed it is from 9:30am till 10:00am ... but never did confirm it Based on the logic of half the time-table ....
Perhaps some senior parents can help here
Hey...no one can answer meh? :p
Maybe all the parents out to travel due to the long vacation :rolleyes: :D :D

[wongjie90]

Hey...no one can answer meh? :p
Maybe all the parents out to travel due to the long vacation :rolleyes: :D :D
For Chee Wen, it is 10.00am - 10.20am. It is very much depends on the school management.

[currymee]

For Chee Wen, it is 10.00am - 10.20am. It is very much depends on the school management.

Since Chee Wen also start the classes at the same time, then there is a high chance that Lick Hung will follow similar schedules as well - thanks wongjie :)

[currymee]

Had a sneak peek into Lick Hung new block "construction site" after my lunch at Choy Kee ... everything is still peaceful and quiet ..... and "old block" is still intact .... no bulldozers seen or heard .... :(

I can hear and see children flying KITES at the back though ... :D

[Busy Mom]

Would like to know..the purchase of school badge is during the same time when we buy the books? and does the badge comes with student name as well? Or they are given name tags actually.

We were given a name tag by the teacher when we went there to do the confirmation. Is that the name tag that is to be worn for the whole year or this is just a temporary one.

[currymee]

Would like to know..the purchase of school badge is during the same time when we buy the books? and does the badge comes with student name as well? Or they are given name tags actually.

We were given a name tag by the teacher when we went there to do the confirmation. Is that the name tag that is to be worn for the whole year or this is just a temporary one.

School badges can bought on the same day as you buy the school exercise books.

The temporary card badge with name and class is to be worn until the 1st month (depends on class teacher instruction) - for the teacher and the kids to familiarise with each other.

For SAFETY REASONS due to fear of kidnapping and misrepresentation, Lick Hung school children do not wear student name tags or any badges with name - that was what I was told.

[Busy Mom]

School badges can bought on the same day as you buy the school exercise books.

The temporary card badge with name and class is to be worn until the 1st month (depends on class teacher instruction) - for the teacher and the kids to familiarise with each other.

For SAFETY REASONS due to fear of kidnapping and misrepresentation, Lick Hung school children do not wear student name tags or any badges with name - that was what I was told.
I see...noted.

'Back To School' promo from Tesco:

Tesco is currently having back to school promotion. Their school shoes are going quite cheap. Even saw a type going at only Rm5.90/pair!!!:eek: Others with brands like barbie, princess and ben 10 at RM26.90-RM30+. Bought a pair of princess and also the Rm5.90 one (as spare in case of it got wet from rain).

[currymee]

I see...noted.

'Back To School' promo from Tesco:

Tesco is currently having back to school promotion. Their school shoes are going quite cheap. Even saw a type going at only Rm5.90/pair!!!:eek: Others with brands like barbie, princess and ben 10 at RM26.90-RM30+. Bought a pair of princess and also the Rm5.90 one (as spare in case of it got wet from rain).

Take note and try not to get your heart broken - my son's Ben 10 only lasted 3 months - then koyak, switch back to Bata - can still use until next year ....

The kids love to play a game called "PEPSI COLA 1-2-3" (hehehe ... name has got nothing to do with the game - you have to see it to know it !!), where they "step" on each other's shoes .... so BE WARNED - it is a shoes killer !! :D :D I also know how to play but none want to play with me coz they said my feet and stride too big, they cried CHEAT !! :o :p :p

[fRaNkY]

Take note and try not to get your heart broken - my son's Ben 10 only lasted 3 months - then koyak, switch back to Bata - can still use until next year ....

The kids love to play a game called "PEPSI COLA 1-2-3" (hehehe ... name has got nothing to do with the game - you have to see it to know it !!), where they "step" on each other's shoes .... so BE WARNED - it is a shoes killer !! :D :D I also know how to play but none want to play with me coz they said my feet and stride too big, they cried CHEAT !! :o :p :p

I recommend industrial shoes- with metal sole and toes protection. Leather - elephant hide :D

[fRaNkY]

For Chee Wen, it is 10.00am - 10.20am. It is very much depends on the school management.

Daughter said10.15 to 10.35am. Next year might be earlier.

[currymee]

No wonder, some parents are unsure, ;) the morning session recess time is STAGGERED for Lick Hung :p :p

With thanks to a mum (PSL) who emailed me the information :)

For STD 3 & STD 6 (together) - 9.45am to 10.05am

For STD 4 & STD 5 (together) - 10.15am to 10.35am

I wonder what will happen when the Std 1 and 2 move up .... :confused:

[Totoro2010]

I see...noted.

'Back To School' promo from Tesco:

....brands like barbie, princess and ben 10 at RM26.90-RM30+.

For these brands, all the promotion at Tesco, Jusco, Carrefour, Mydin etc are the same...do not need to travel long journey, just visit the nearest hyper market will do :)

[Totoro2010]

Take note and try not to get your heart broken - my son's Ben 10 only lasted 3 months - then koyak, switch back to Bata - can still use until next year ....

:eek: terrible to hear that, hope the brand I bought can "tahan" till year end :p :D :D

[Totoro2010]

Take note and try not to get your heart broken - my son's Ben 10 only lasted 3 months - then koyak, switch back to Bata - can still use until next year ....

Bata...are you meant B. First brand?

How many pairs you bought for your son?

[currymee]

Bata...are you meant B. First brand?

How many pairs you bought for your son?

Yes, BFirst is BATA First ... :D

The current pair is still OK, so only need to add ONE more pair ... :D

Best is to have 2 pairs .... FOR NORMAL DAYS: one week one pair and then BIG WASH, two pair in one go (every 2 weeks) .... IF HEAVILY SOILED/RAIN - then use one as emergency cover ...

My son and I decided NO MORE "fancy" shoes that don't last, he was pretty disappointed with Ben 10 shoes this year - velcro came off and even super glue didn't work ... after all, B.First almost the same price ... furthermore, next year, he is switching completely over to SHOE LACES no more velcro types ... lagi tahan !! :D

He only struggled with shoe laces for first week, after that, NO PROBLEM ... daddy is a GOOD TEACHER mah ;)

[Busy Mom]

... furthermore, next year, he is switching completely over to SHOE LACES no more velcro types ... lagi tahan !! :D

He only struggled with shoe laces for first week, after that, NO PROBLEM ... daddy is a GOOD TEACHER mah ;)[/QUOTE]

LH has this rule where std 3 onwards are shoelaces..no more velcro type?

[currymee]

...
LH has this rule where std 3 onwards are shoelaces..no more velcro type?

Huh ? :eek: I don't think there is such rules ... :confused: :confused:

I am just stating that my boy is switching over to shoe laces as a personal choice BUT not related to school rules. :)

Shoe laces usually LAST LONGER than velcro fasteners for shoes and if snapped can just replace the laces (Bata sells the replacement laces for RM6.00) instead of the whole pair of shoes !

[Naka]

CM, did u sit for 3 hrs to get your $100/=? :D

[currymee]

CM, did u sit for 3 hrs to get your $100/=? :D

Nope, I was not the "lucky" one :p :p If I were pre-selected, Mdm Ong will get an EARFUL together with the HM and PIBG AJK !!!

[Naka]

Nope, I was not the "lucky" one :p :p If I were pre-selected, Mdm Ong will get an EARFUL together with the HM and PIBG AJK !!!

Wah, why so " Tai for Hii " ?? Cool down man :D

[currymee]

Wah, why so " Tai for Hii " ?? Cool down man :D

I am COOL :cool: :cool: :cool:

[Totoro2010]

...Shoe laces usually LAST LONGER than velcro fasteners for shoes and if snapped can just replace the laces (Bata sells the replacement laces for RM6.00) instead of the whole pair of shoes !

I afraid my blur sotong cannot cope to the new morning session life, sure the sleepy child will hard to wake up, hard to walk, hard to eat/drink and still dreaming. I can imagine the blur/sleepy child will not have the mode to tie up the shoe lace in such situation. Finally, I made decision to buy again the velcro type even though it is "senang koyak" :o

I bought 2 pairs because the previous one already "koyak" :p

[fRaNkY]

No wonder, some parents are unsure, ;) the morning session recess time is STAGGERED for Lick Hung :p :p

With thanks to a mum (PSL) who emailed me the information :)

For STD 3 & STD 6 (together) - 9.45am to 10.05am

For STD 4 & STD 5 (together) - 10.15am to 10.35am

I wonder what will happen when the Std 1 and 2 move up .... :confused:

20 mins or less how to go q and buy food in e kantin? If every kids come out at the same time.

Our time where got money to eat at kantin, most just play play during that time.

At least kantin wont be that pack

[currymee]

20 mins or less how to go q and buy food in e kantin? If every kids come out at the same time.

.....

Good point :) Probably, that is why it is STAGGERED ;)

[currymee]

December already - time to re-start the old "cranium" ;)

Slow jog of the brain, time to re-start the engine - let's start with MATHS :) :)

Told my son to finish off the remaining leftover Std 2 workbooks in December ... few exercises here and there ...

He is HAPPY to resume :eek: :eek: He was getting "worried" that I did not give him any work for the last ONE MONTH .... I think I created a study "monster" !! :eek: :D :D

[currymee]

I afraid my blur sotong cannot cope to the new morning session life, sure the sleepy child will hard to wake up, hard to walk, hard to eat/drink and still dreaming. I can imagine the blur/sleepy child will not have the mode to tie up the shoe lace in such situation. Finally, I made decision to buy again the velcro type even though it is "senang koyak" :o

I bought 2 pairs because the previous one already "koyak" :p

CAN !! All it takes is TRAINING :D .... I am already preparing my son "MENTALLY" now by reminding him daily that come Jan 4th, he has to wake up by 6am and not 9am ... he said OK , no problem !!

I shall wait and see ... :rolleyes:

[Mommy]

December already - time to re-start the old "cranium" ;)

Slow jog of the brain, time to re-start the engine - let's start with MATHS :) :)

Told my son to finish off the remaining leftover Std 2 workbooks in December ... few exercises here and there ...

He is HAPPY to resume :eek: :eek: He was getting "worried" that I did not give him any work for the last ONE MONTH .... I think I created a study "monster" !! :eek: :D :D

CM, your son is so obedient. Until now, my son is struggling w his HW. Only yesterday, he created the same old problem procrastinating in his hw & losing his stationeries in day care...sweat :mad:

[currymee]

CM, your son is so obedient. Until now, my son is struggling w his HW. Only yesterday, he created the same old problem procrastinating in his hw & losing his stationeries in day care...sweat :mad:

Mommy,

I think he is already doing some work at the day-care, so when he comes home, he doesn't want to do anymore.

Like my son, once he has finished the "agreed" amount of work for the day, I can forget asking him to do "extra" ... he will not budge :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[currymee]

Had a sneak peek into Lick Hung new block "construction site" after my lunch at Choy Kee ... everything is still peaceful and quiet ..... and "old block" is still intact .... no bulldozers seen or heard .... :(

I can hear and see children flying KITES at the back though ... :D


Hahahaha :D ... I got an email asking me TO BE PATIENT and he/she said "Rome was not built in one day" .... ;)

OK, point noted and taken :D :D

[Busy Mom]

December already - time to re-start the old "cranium" ;)

Slow jog of the brain, time to re-start the engine - let's start with MATHS :) :)

Told my son to finish off the remaining leftover Std 2 workbooks in December ... few exercises here and there ...

He is HAPPY to resume :eek: :eek: He was getting "worried" that I did not give him any work for the last ONE MONTH .... I think I created a study "monster" !! :eek: :D :D
CM, i wouldn't say u have created a study 'monster' but instead you have instill good interest of study habits in your son. This is really a good start to build the foundation. Imagine, they have many years ahead of them in studies right up till uni. I hope slowly my gal will build up her interest in study without me 'pushing' and reminding her all the time. But i also know each child is unique so most important is for the parent to know their child well.

[currymee]

CM, i wouldn't say u have created a study 'monster' but instead you have instill good interest of study habits in your son. ....

Unfortunately, not exactly so ;) ... more like he knows there will be NO TV, NO computer games, NO comics etc ... until he has done his DAILY exercises (if any) and he knows each time, there is a delay or he procastinate, the exercises don't go away but back-logged and the amount builds up, so better to clear it daily ... :D :D

But some of the positive values are starting to build in ...so I am happy with that.

[Busy Mom]

An interesting read....
http://www.mysinchew.com/node/67076

[Mommy]

Unfortunately, not exactly so ;) ... more like he knows there will be NO TV, NO computer games, NO comics etc ... until he has done his DAILY exercises (if any) and he knows each time, there is a delay or he procastinate, the exercises don't go away but back-logged and the amount builds up, so better to clear it daily ... :D :D

But some of the positive values are starting to build in ...so I am happy with that.

Ha ha ha, exactly the problem with my son "procrastinate" and still on going :mad:

[Totoro2010]

CAN !! All it takes is TRAINING :D .... I am already preparing my son "MENTALLY" now by reminding him daily that come Jan 4th, he has to wake up by 6am and not 9am ... he said OK , no problem !!

I shall wait and see ... :rolleyes:
Currymee, your son is smart. My one cannot lah....recently, he have to wake up 7am++ for going to Day care centre as I have to go office, he has already acted like a "Zombie" :p , some more he should follow TRANSPORTER's time table, maybe should wake up before 6am :eek:

So, I am not dare to buy the new shoe lace type.

Maybe, I will try it next year :rolleyes:

[Mommy]

Currymee, your son is smart. My one cannot lah....recently, he have to wake up 7am++ for going to Day care centre as I have to go office, he has already acted like a "Zombie" :p , some more he should follow TRANSPORTER's time table, maybe should wake up before 6am :eek:

So, I am not dare to buy the new shoe lace type.

Maybe, I will try it next year :rolleyes:

Maybe CM need to start a day "camp" to help us how to "train" boys!!!
My son the same, the transporter will come at 6am, means the latest he needs to wake up is 5.30am. If he continues to drag his homework from afternoon till late night, he will be sleeping in class most of the time....
:(

[currymee]

Currymee, your son is smart. My one cannot lah....recently, he have to wake up 7am++ for going to Day care centre as I have to go office, he has already acted like a "Zombie" :p , some more he should follow TRANSPORTER's time table, maybe should wake up before 6am :eek:

So, I am not dare to buy the new shoe lace type.

Maybe, I will try it next year :rolleyes:

Relax Bro, velcro type is definitely more convenient ... my son doesn't like them coz they always come loose when he runs and plays, so he is prepared to "suffer" for shoe laces ... :rolleyes: :D

Seriously, it is TOUGH, even now, my son still struggles to get up by 8AM - and this is already ONE HOUR EARLIER than his usual 9am .... yup, morning school will be ONE HELL OF A SHOCK to the kids next year !! :D

Right now, I am also training myself to wake up by 6AM as I have to prepare everything to get him ready for school - coffee (or else I will be sleepy when driving !! :D ), breakfast, uniform etc ... sometimes I wonder WHO IS GOING TO SCHOOL ? :confused: :rolleyes:

[currymee]

Maybe CM need to start a day "camp" to help us how to "train" boys!!!

My son the same, the transporter will come at 6am, means the latest he needs to wake up is 5.30am. If he continues to drag his homework from afternoon till late night, he will be sleeping in class most of the time....
:(

Hahahaha ... trust me, you will not like my "methods" ... CARROTS and STICKS :eek: in equal measures ... until my son learns tht it is better to get CARROTS instead ... :p

For better or worse, BOYS need to be disciplined every now and then other wise, they will climb all over your head ... it is HARD-WIRED into their XY chromosomes ... :rolleyes:

[Mommy]

Hahahaha ... trust me, you will not like my "methods" ... CARROTS and STICKS :eek: in equal measures ... until my son learns tht it is better to get CARROTS instead ... :p

I think mine is Sticks over Carrots. Its after I read your comment, I'm switching to balance Sticks & Carrots, yet I'm struggling due to stubborness of my boy

[currymee]

I think mine is Sticks over Carrots. Its after I read your comment, I'm switching to balance Sticks & Carrots, yet I'm struggling due to stubborness of my boy

It takes time BUT what is KEY is consistency in your "rules", "carrots and sticks" and activites ... once you are doing that, then they will know, learn and accept.

Took me the whole Std 1 to "drill" some discipline into my son AT HOME although the school has done the drilling for the school .... don't you notice how well the children behave in school ? ;)

That is what SJKCs are famous for ... DISCIPLINE :p

[Mommy]

It takes time BUT what is KEY is consistency in your "rules", "carrots and sticks" and activites ... once you are doing that, then they will know, learn and accept.

Took me the whole Std 1 to "drill" some discipline into my son AT HOME although the school has done the drilling for the school .... don't you notice how well the children behave in school ? ;)
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He was ok in Std 1. His prob starts in Std 2. Not afraid of the sticks anymore. Cannot figure out the reason. So I stopped the sticks after his final exam, unless I really blow up, try to combine a bit of carrot. Not much improvement after 1.5 mths. May need more time for him.

[currymee]

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He was ok in Std 1. His prob starts in Std 2. Not afraid of the sticks anymore. Cannot figure out the reason. So I stopped the sticks after his final exam, unless I really blow up, try to combine a bit of carrot. Not much improvement after 1.5 mths. May need more time for him.

Relax Mommy, different boys take different time ... mine was almost 9-10 months .... in fact, he only changed when he begins to see and "enjoy" the CARROTS of doing well ... :rolleyes: :D :D

[Mommy]

Relax Mommy, different boys take different time ... mine was almost 9-10 months .... in fact, he only changed when he begins to see and "enjoy" the CARROTS of doing well ... :rolleyes: :D :D

Hahaha!! can't relax, 5 more weeks only...that's why depressed!!!
yes, different boys take different time...cannot give up...
You are right, my son has not gotten the carrot as he has not done well...thus, has not feel the enjoyment yet

[currymee]

Ok, let me share an "immediate" example of a HOLIDAY CARROT - I already told my son, he only needs to work for the next few weeks until 24th Dec , then from 24th Dec (Xmas eve) until 4th January (start of school) - FREE TIME ... no work at all .... :D :D - provided he finishes what we have agreed ... really motivated him to finish everything asap. ;)

You may want to "try" it with your son ... ;)

[Mommy]

Ok, let me share an "immediate" example of a HOLIDAY CARROT - I already told my son, he only needs to work for the next few weeks until 24th Dec , then from 24th Dec (Xmas eve) until 4th January (start of school) - FREE TIME ... no work at all .... :D :D - provided he finishes what we have agreed ... really motivated him to finish everything asap. ;)

You may want to "try" it with your son ... ;)


OK, let me talk to him tonight...thanks thanks, I never thot of that.
In fact, I thot that is the only week he can brush up coz I need to take leave due to day care off for the whole week...

[currymee]

I have already told my son that we will be touring all the shopping malls to see Xmas decorations and New Year celebrations ... look at toys or books or whatever he likes during the "OFF WEEK" ... he can also see what he likes IF he does well in Std 3 etc ... :p :p :D :D

[Mommy]

I have already told my son that we will be touring all the shopping malls to see Xmas decorations and New Year celebrations ... look at toys or books or whatever he likes during the "OFF WEEK" ... he can also see what he likes IF he does well in Std 3 etc ... :p :p :D :D

Wow!! If I tell my son this, he will be dreaming all the time .....& drag his work...
He is definitely not matured enough to control his mind

[currymee]

Wow!! If I tell my son this, he will be dreaming all the time .....& drag his work...
He is definitely not matured enough to control his mind

Try it and see ... you never know, it may do the trick with him :)

However, be FIRM in telling him that ONLY IF he finishes the agreed amount of work and when he does, you keep the end-of-bargain ... it is OK for him to day-dream (my son does that also, saying this and that) but when it goes over-board, remind him, WORK FIRST THEN PLAY !! :)

[currymee]

Extracted from SMK USJ12 Parent's Suopport Group ...


This has nothing much to do with SMK USJ12 per se but definitely interesting...

http://saps.moe.gov.my/ibubapa2/index.php

In case anyone doesn't know of it yet, you can check the kids' marks, position in form and class and overall %....just like an online report card. I'm having fun and my kids are cringeing...

I tried the url link on the Sistem Analisis Peperiksaan Sekolah (SAPS) above.

http://saps.moe.gov.my/ibubapa2/index.php

Wow, all my son's results are ONLINE as well as his position for Std 2 in the whole of Lick Hung :eek: :eek: !! Showed it my son, and told him, coming in at more than 100+ out of 454 students means a lot of work to go .... :(

I set him a target of top 100.

So now, we can monitor the kids progress in a bigger context (overall standard position and not just class position).

What surprises me is that the school is actually giving marks to the kids for MUSIC and ART too .... walau - I didn't know they took exams for these subjects too ? :confused: :confused:

Apparently, it holds the records of EVERY STUDENT (Govt schools) IN MALAYSIA !!! :eek:

[Rhiga]

Bro,

Thanks for the link… it is useful info to evaluate the kid’s result in the whole standard two..

The changes can be very drastic due to the sheer size of Lick Hung students..

For example, based on my kid’s result.

Position in class is 3 and position in whole standard two is 17...... However, the position in whole standard two can drop to 76 when the position in class only dropped to 7. :eek: :eek:

[Rhiga]

...

What surprises me is that the school is actually giving marks to the kids for MUSIC and ART too .... walau - I didn't know they took exams for these subjects too ? :confused: :confused:



I think the calculation of percentage and hence the position in class do not take into consideration the marks of music and art subjects...

You can easily verify the numbers shown by the link with the one appear in the report card... There are the same.

Cheers

[currymee]

I think the calculation of percentage and hence the position in class do not take into consideration the marks of music and art subjects...

You can easily verify the numbers shown by the link with the one appear in the report card... There are the same.

Cheers

Problem is ... next time, I have to photocopy the report card for reference also :o :o

[Rhiga]

Problem is ... next time, I have to photocopy the report card for reference also :o :o

I have my own softcopy of report card.. (using excel worksheet)... :p :D

[currymee]

Bro,

Thanks for the link… it is useful info to evaluate the kid’s result in the whole standard two..

The changes can be very drastic due to the sheer size of Lick Hung students..

For example, based on my kid’s result.

Position in class is 3 and position in whole standard two is 17...... However, the position in whole standard two can drop to 76 when the position in class only dropped to 7. :eek: :eek:

Yup ... it shows that Lick Hung is VERY VERY COMPETITIVE AND CLOSE TOGETHER .... :p I checked with another mum, we found out that her daughter's total point difference in the last exam from mine is just 2 points (0.3%) better and the kids are 30 places apart for the standard - walau !!! :eek: :eek:

Scary when you are in the middle of the pack i.e. 100-300 !! The gap is so small !! :eek: NO WONDER, Lick Hung doesn't want to stream and I support that policy :D - parents will get HEART ATTACKS ....

[currymee]

Aiseyman :o , I have never received so many TQ emails from Lick Hung parents until I posted the SAPS link ;) - just promise, you don't beat up the kids as a result !! However, the thanks should go to xinrong first ... :D


Extracted from SMK USJ12 Parents Support thread ... :D


This has nothing much to do with SMK USJ12 per se but definitely interesting...

http://saps.moe.gov.my/ibubapa2/index.php

In case anyone doesn't know of it yet, you can check the kids' marks, position in form and class and overall %....just like an online report card. I'm having fun and my kids are cringeing...

[currymee]

Light-hearted reading ....

Teacher, what you do might get posted online

Luckily, for LH teachers, handphones are BANNED ... :p :p :D :D

http://www.dailychilli.com/news/15475-teacher-what-you-do-might-get-posted-online

[Totoro2010]

Aiseyman :o , I have never received so many TQ emails from Lick Hung parents until I posted the SAPS link ;) - just promise, you don't beat up the kids as a result !! However, the thanks should go to xinrong first ... :D


Extracted from SMK USJ12 Parents Support thread ... :D
Thank you currymee and xinrong for the "link" sharing :)

I checked the result and found the position in class is different with the real report card, the online position in class is better :confused:

Any parent found the same problem?

[currymee]

Thank you currymee and xinrong for the "link" sharing :)

I checked the result and found the position in class is different with the real report card, the online position in class is better :confused:

Any parent found the same problem?

GOT MEH ??????? They are SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME as report card !! :eek: :eek: :eek:

This is SERIOUS, coz if yours is better then someone else will be worse !!! :eek:

Were the marks correctly entered ? :confused:

[Totoro2010]

GOT MEH ??????? :eek: :eek: :eek:
Yes...just thinking should I print out the online result and claim it back from LH :rolleyes:

Just kidding :p :D :D

[Totoro2010]

GOT MEH ??????? They are SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME as report card !! :eek: :eek: :eek:

This is SERIOUS, coz if yours is better then someone else will be worse !!! :eek:

Were the marks correctly entered ? :confused:
I did not make a soft copy of report card like sagamihara. So, I can't 100% say the marks are correct.

But, from what I can recall the marks are around there and only the position in class is different, no comment for the position in whole std 2 as I don't know it.

[kwchang]

...we found out that her daughter's total point difference in the last exam from mine is just 2 points (0.3%) better and the kids are 30 places apart for the standard...
Aisaayyy, after a few years in LH.... now only discover that exam marks differ only by a small percentage points? What does that tell you?


...no comment for the position in whole std 2 as I don't know it. Hahaha, you should do what I did one year. I stood in front of the school notice board and wrote down all the total scores of the kids in the same std as my kid. In the past LH used to put up the score sheets of every kid on the notice board, not sure if they still do it. From that list you will be able to determine where yr kid stands overall for the year.

Like I asked above, what does this tell you?

For me, I was not concerned whether my kids were in the top 10 or the bottom 10 (where they usually end up !!). Life was already tough as it was coping with the homework and tuition. Afterall, it was primary school and they were supposed to enjoy their school-life.

[currymee]

Thank you currymee and xinrong for the "link" sharing :)

I checked the result and found the position in class is different with the real report card, the online position in class is better :confused:

Any parent found the same problem?

I have double-checked and my son's data etc ... are all OK :)

I also have "buzzed" the school mum's network (I am the only DAD in it :p ) on the above.

Some of them said that their children class positions are ALL MESSED UP, and are very unhappy ! Well, they said they are going to talk to the school teachers when school restarts next year ...

I think the Sistem Analsis Peperiksaan Sekolah (SAPS) may have a different method of calculating class positions or standard positions than LH (maybe based on weightage for certain subjects) :confused: OR as usual, Government computer systems are usually FAULTY and FULL OF BUGS (remember the incident for registeration earlier this year :rolleyes: ) - nothing surprises me anymore.

[Totoro2010]

I stood in front of the school notice board and wrote down all the total scores of the kids in the same std as my kid. In the past LH used to put up the score sheets of every kid on the notice board, not sure if they still do it. From that list you will be able to determine where yr kid stands overall for the year.

May I know where is the school notice board with the score sheets? Which area of school?

[kwchang]

May I know where is the school notice board with the score sheets? Which area of school?
When I did it last it was like 5 years ago so I do not know if they still follow the same practice. Anyway, at my time, I took a stroll around the school notice boards and found it.... there are many boards but there was one dedicated to class exam results.

[Totoro2010]

When I did it last it was like 5 years ago so I do not know if they still follow the same practice. Anyway, at my time, I took a stroll around the school notice boards and found it.... there are many boards but there was one dedicated to class exam results.
ok....thanks for the info :)

I will go for a look on every notice board if I visit the school next year :p :D

[Mommy]

Is this a better way to encourage our kids to do better in school? By telling them that they are 100+ in whole std?
Maybe some senior parents can advice if it does really encouraged your child. :D
I'm learning various method to encourage my forever dreaming son to do better in school...Else, I dunno which secondary school he will be sent to after UPSR!!! :rolleyes:

[kwchang]

ok....thanks for the info :)

I will go for a look on every notice board if I visit the school next year :p :D
Perhaps you should drop by now... if and when they have the results posted. Next year, it will be taken down as it would not be relevant anymore. Another good time is when the UPSR results are out. Best is to ask the teachers if they have the results posted

[Rhiga]

Like I asked above, what does this tell you?

For me, I was not concerned whether my kids were in the top 10 or the bottom 10 (where they usually end up !!). Life was already tough as it was coping with the homework and tuition. Afterall, it was primary school and they were supposed to enjoy their school-life... .

What does the position in overall standard tells..??

Ok, I look at it this way (so far, I haven’t told my kid his overall position in standard two and likely will not tell him).

Let’s use his result for example..

He was no.3 in his class for one of the exams but his overall position is 17. There are 10 classes in standard 2 i.e. there will be 10 students scored No.1 position, 10 students for No.2 and 10 students for No.3.

His position of 17 tells me (to a greater extent) he is in the middle-point of all the top 3 students in standard 2 during this particular exam..

It is also a relatively good measurement of his class in relation to other 9 classes. If his overall position is at the upper quartile of 30 , his class should be the top class among the 10 classes. Similarly, if his overall position is in the lower quartile of 30, then his class is at the bottom of the 10 classes.

As Chang correctly mentioned, life is already tough for the kids in highly competitive chinese school like LH. This info is good for parents, may not necessary for the kids. Let them enjoy the childhoold without unnecessary "KPI".. :) :p

Cheers

[kwchang]

Is this a better way to encourage our kids to do better in school? By telling them that they are 100+ in whole std?..
As Sagamihara has read and understood my message, the positions are for the parents to gauge but should not be a burden for the children

Remember CM's observation that 2% difference in marks meant a difference of 30 positions. Imagine having lost like 5% marks could mean the kid drops to the the bottom of the class! Is the position so important? For me it is not..

What is more important is the child has learnt the subjects and is able to cope with the mandatory exams.

And more importantly, being able to cope with secondary school after the UPSR. Language skills are very important.... be reasonably good in BM if they will proceed to Kebangsaan secondary schools, be good in Mandarin if they proceed to private Chinese secondary schools. And ensure they have a good grasp of English for their future working life.

[currymee]

....

Remember CM's observation that 2% difference in marks meant a difference of 30 positions. Imagine having lost like 5% marks could mean the kid drops to the the bottom of the class! Is the position so important? For me it is not..

...

CORRECTION - it is 0.3% - lagi teruk, downright SCARY !!!! :eek: :eek:

[kwchang]

CORRECTION - it is 0.3% - lagi teruk, downright SCARY !!!! :eek: :eek:
My error - CM said 2 points or 0.3% ... well it only says one thing - that positions are not important whether the child is #1 or #50 since the marks are all so close.

[currymee]

What does the position in overall standard tells..??

Ok, I look at it this way (so far, I haven’t told my kid his overall position in standard two and likely will not tell him).

Let’s use his result for example..

He was no.3 in his class for one of the exams but his overall position is 17. There are 10 classes in standard 2 i.e. there will be 10 students scored No.1 position, 10 students for No.2 and 10 students for No.3.

His position of 17 tells me (to a greater extent) he is in the middle-point of all the top 3 students in standard 2 during this particular exam..

It is also a relatively good measurement of his class in relation to other 9 classes. If his overall position is at the upper quartile of 30 , his class should be the top class among the 10 classes. Similarly, if his overall position is in the lower quartile of 30, then his class is at the bottom of the 10 classes.

As Chang correctly mentioned, life is already tough for the kids in highly competitive chinese school like LH. This info is good for parents, may not necessary for the kids. Let them enjoy the childhoold without unnecessary "KPI".. :) :p

Cheers

Bro,

Good point and roughly I have made the same conclusion and analysis :D

I mentioned it here for the parents to know - after all, this is THE PARENTS forum !! :D This is the one piece of information feedback on the children's exam performance that Lick Hung school management has witheld from the parents in the school report card when compared to the other SJKCs.

I can understand and appreciate the school's reasoning in that it will create A LOT OF STRESS esp when one discovers that a miniscule difference in percentage can be grossly exaggerated in the standard position !!


Is this a better way to encourage our kids to do better in school? By telling them that they are 100+ in whole std?
Maybe some senior parents can advice if it does really encouraged your child. :D
I'm learning various method to encourage my forever dreaming son to do better in school...Else, I dunno which secondary school he will be sent to after UPSR!!! :rolleyes:

I was informed that the previous Lick Hung HM used this "open declaration" method as the CARROT and STICK, needless to say, it produced BOTH KINDS OF RESULTS ... both excellent (90%+ passes) :) and highly strung and stressed-out parents and kids .... :( (see KWChang's posts about notice-board, today, they are no longer displayed as far as I know ;) )

How you use that data is up to your individual parenting. The data can be a DOUBLE-EDGE sword - on the good side, it can be a GREAT MOTIVATOR and on the flip side, a REAL KILLER and STRESS. So as a parent, you have to exercise your most judicious judgement and care in applying it. You also have to know your own children's mental and psychological make-up and response system to such feedbacks.

In my son's case, he mentioned to me that he would like to get 7As for UPSR - I am happy to hear that is what he desires :) . In return, I mentioned to him that STATISTICALLY since LH moved to Subang Jaya more than 10 years ago ... each year LH produces around 100+ 7As students. While it is not a SURE THING, logically, if you are in the top 100 of LH, your chances are better, assuming that the quality and level of difficulty of exams in both LH and UPSR remain approximately the same.

So, right now, he is using that as a TARGET to spur and motivate himself.

I encourage my son to set REASONABLE ACHIEVABLE TARGETS for himself, it is part of his growing-up character training as I slowly ease off the target settings for him. I believe that a child should grow up with some "ambition" and "target" lest they turn into a mindless blob in the future .... expecting to be taken care off and rely on handouts by the Govt, which, sad to say, as a non-Bumiputra, he is not going to get !!

[currymee]

At the end of the day, it is all about BALANCE and setting APPROPRIATE TARGETS and EXPECTATIONS for both parents and child.

There is NO PERFECT 100% GUARANTEED SUCCESS approach - it all depends on the individual combination of parent and children.

Mine is 80% CARROTS and 20% STICK ... if it is 100% CARROTS, he will "rot" and becomes "tidak apa" :eek:

[fongkimseng]

As an ex-HM, let me say that the "theoretical" main use of position in standard/form list and its sister concept - streaming is for the school to identify the weak students and then allocate the necessary resources to assist them.

However, in reality, the whole idea is usually skewed towards who are the best and competition for the top classes. And when that happens, a lot of stress, "kiasu" behaviour and ultra-competitive parents and students start to emerge to the detriment of themselves and the school at large.

In Lick Hung's case with almost 90% of students doing well, scoring As and Bs based on UPSR results, these added negative stresses and elements are unnecessary and more likely to be counter-productive than helpful. Thus, I support the current Lick Hung HM's decision not to make the "position in standard" information publically available. I remember having read that the HM has mentioned this in the PIBG AGM.

However, since he has the data and authority, I do urge the Lick Hung HM to do a "remedial" streaming instead of a general streaming across the board. He should identify the weakest 50 students (remedial class) and put his BEST teachers to teach and assist them. Yes, the best teachers will complain (as the weakest students are normally an indiscipline lot as well) but he should remind them that it is also a good deed to do so. I did that when I was the HM and actually gave the best teachers extra bonuses as incentives (out of my own HM allowances but when the teachers found out, they returned the money to me - credit to them :) ) to teach the remedial classes.

Note to the HM, this was how I improved the school's SRP and SPM performances by 8-10% in the overall pass rates in the 5 years that I was the HM. ;) - maybe Lick Hung can score 99-100% pass rates if you do so.

[Rhiga]

....However, since he has the data and authority, I do urge the Lick Hung HM to do a "remedial" streaming instead of a general streaming across the board. He should identify the weakest 50 students (remedial class) and put his BEST teachers to teach and assist them. Yes, the best teachers will complain (as the weakest students are normally an indiscipline lot as well) but he should remind them that it is also a good deed to do so. I did that when I was the HM and actually gave the best teachers extra bonuses as incentives (out of my own HM allowances but when the teachers found out, they returned the money to me - credit to them :) ) to teach the remedial classes.

Note to the HM, this was how I improved the school's SRP and SPM performances by 8-10% in the overall pass rates in the 5 years that I was the HM. ;) - maybe Lick Hung can score 99-100% pass rates if you do so.

Fong, thanks for your advice and I know this is a good approach to help the academically poorer students..

However, I think may be you don't understand much about Chinese schools.. or to be more precise Chinese school HMs... :D

Pass rate is never their worry, and is always at the bottom of their priority list.. :p

It is the other indicators like total students with all A, percentage of students with all A, highest % of students with A in the state/country…, etc. that keep them busy whole year..

I would like to clarify this post from any mis-understanding : - This is not a complaint. I salute the extra effort from the HM and the teachers in Chinese school, for being able to produce the excellent overall/individual results in exams, consistently year-by-year.

No matter what are the intentions to aim for such exam indicators, the underlying efforts from the school cannot be denied, and it is never an easy and interesting job..

Cheers

[fongkimseng]

Fong, thanks for your advice and I know this is a good approach to help the academically poorer students..

However, I think may be you don't understand much about Chinese schools.. or to be more precise Chinese school HMs... :D

Pass rate is never their worry, and is always at the bottom of their priority list.. :p

It is the other indicators like total students with all A, percentage of students with all A, highest % of students with A in the state/country…, etc. that keep them busy whole year..

..

Cheers

Sagamihara,

You are quite correct on the priorities of SJKCs HM. That is why I used the sentence ... ...."However, since he has the data and authority, I do urge the Lick Hung HM to do a "remedial" streaming instead of a general streaming across the board....."

I also gave him an example on what I think is the best way to apply the "remedial" streaming methodology. But it is all the HM's decision.

Sometimes I hope that HMs and teachers remember that their potential and influence to change the lives and futures of "weaker" students are much greater than those of the best students, who will be quite motivated and driven to succeed anyway.

[cupofcoffee]

I have double-checked and my son's data etc ... are all OK :)

I also have "buzzed" the school mum's network (I am the only DAD in it :p ) on the above.

Some of them said that their children class positions are ALL MESSED UP, and are very unhappy ! Well, they said they are going to talk to the school teachers when school restarts next year ...

I think the Sistem Analsis Peperiksaan Sekolah (SAPS) may have a different method of calculating class positions or standard positions than LH (maybe based on weightage for certain subjects) :confused: OR as usual, Government computer systems are usually FAULTY and FULL OF BUGS (remember the incident for registeration earlier this year :rolleyes: ) - nothing surprises me anymore.

My son's class positions were also all "messed up" and I have informed his class teacher. She had kindly re-checked the system and mentioned to me that she can only key-in the subjects marks (which is correct). The class position and standard position and all other statistics were automatically calculated by the Government SAPS system. She also could not figure out why it is different.

She also told me that in her official records, the class position in the school report card is the one used by the school's own computer system.

[currymee]

My son's class positions were also all "messed up" and I have informed his class teacher. She had kindly re-checked the system and mentioned to me that she can only key-in the subjects marks (which is correct). The class position and standard position and all other statistics were automatically calculated by the Government SAPS system. She also could not figure out why it is different.

She also told me that in her official records, the class position in the school report card is the one used by the school's own computer system.

cupofcoffee,

Your son is very lucky to have such a proactive and helpful class teacher (even during the school holidays, she will assist !) :cool: :cool:

[Rhiga]

....Sometimes I hope that HMs and teachers remember that their potential and influence to change the lives and futures of "weaker" students are much greater than those of the best students, who will be quite motivated and driven to succeed anyway.

Fong, I fully concurred with you – education is to teach everyone regardless of competency and more focus should be given to those who need it.

This noble aim to teach everyone was one of the objectives of earlier Chinese schools when those school were founded by the good Samaritans.

Unfortunately, due to rapid changes in economic progress and thus education becomes result-oriented than knowledge-oriented, the initial noble objective skewed towards other priorities..

In urban Klang valley, it is difficulty for a “below average” students to get adequate attention in school and parents (if can afford) have to find private tuition to assist the students.

It is a demand and supply issue, most of the parents who put their kids in high performance school are willing to go extra miles to ensure their kids are within the lead.

[kwchang]

...extra miles to ensure their kids are within the lead.
I wonder if it is pulling the cow up the tree? Parents should assess the true academic abilities of their children. Sometimes, the child may not be able to perform academically and get all the A's as expected. I would say the parent should be the first to identify the child's abilities and find the best route to develop the child's potential. Academic grades are important but if it is beyond the child, then we should not force the child beyond his/her abilities.

[currymee]

I wonder if it is pulling the cow up the tree? Parents should assess the true academic abilities of their children. Sometimes, the child may not be able to perform academically and get all the A's as expected. I would say the parent should be the first to identify the child's abilities and find the best route to develop the child's potential. Academic grades are important but if it is beyond the child, then we should not force the child beyond his/her abilities.

This is the CATCH-22 situation that a lot of parents face. How do you assess their TRUE academic abilities ? School exams ? Where and when do you draw the line ? :confused:

[currymee]

Fong, I fully concurred with you – education is to teach everyone regardless of competency and more focus should be given to those who need it.

This noble aim to teach everyone was one of the objectives of earlier Chinese schools when those school were founded by the good Samaritans.

Unfortunately, due to rapid changes in economic progress and thus education becomes result-oriented than knowledge-oriented, the initial noble objective skewed towards other priorities..

In urban Klang valley, it is difficulty for a “below average” students to get adequate attention in school and parents (if can afford) have to find private tuition to assist the students.

It is a demand and supply issue, most of the parents who put their kids in high performance school are willing to go extra miles to ensure their kids are within the lead.

Bro,

I think they call such developments - PROGRESS .... :D :D

I have to admit that although I am not in favour of streaming per say, there are strong merits to Cikgu Fong's proposal and idea of "remedial" streaming as he termed it. If it is to be implemented in Lick Hung, I will support it.

[currymee]

Buy your "Back-to-School stuff early esp uniforms & shoes

Ok, this is not meant to be "kiasu" but do consider buying the new school uniforms (if you plan to) and school shoes as soon as possible - I noted that some of the SIZES have run out already in Jaya Jusco .... :(

The salesgirl told me they are waiting for new stock hopefully (that's the key word) by Xmas !

My son has grown taller by a couple of inches, his short pants make him look like an "ah pek" now :p :D :D

[Jennylim]

However, since he has the data and authority, I do urge the Lick Hung HM to do a "remedial" streaming instead of a general streaming across the board. He should identify the weakest 50 students (remedial class) and put his BEST teachers to teach and assist them. Yes, the best teachers will complain (as the weakest students are normally an indiscipline lot as well) but he should remind them that it is also a good deed to do so. I did that when I was the HM and actually gave the best teachers extra bonuses as incentives (out of my own HM allowances but when the teachers found out, they returned the money to me - credit to them :) ) to teach the remedial classes.



Lick Hung has the streaming class but it is definitely not what you think. My children's school did that too and it was very successful.

Happen before in Lick Hung you have half the class making noise(takes turn or concurrently) while the teacher is teaching and the rest of the pupils having difficulty to hear what the teacher is trying to teach, sometimes, the pupils' stories attracted more attention then the teachers.

Can you imagine, these poor pupils have to stay in the school from 7:15am to 4:10pm without a proper learning environment! The school is supposed to be the right place to study, but instead looked more like a place to "ruin" them. You can not imagine the psychological impact on these pupils. They can not study in school, probably not at home too! The poor kids are punished at such a young age, just because they are ignorant, playful, or lower IQ. If one is ruin at such a young age, he/she probably have a bleak future!

[currymee]

Lick Hung has the streaming class but it is definitely not what you think. My children's school did that too and it was very successful.

....

Well, I am surprised to hear that Lick Hung has such a class but what puzzles me is the part of your statement which I have bolded .... :confused:

Can you clarify a bit more ? or is the following post (see below) the explanation of the LH's "streaming class" ? :confused:



....
Happen before in Lick Hung you have half the class making noise(takes turn or concurrently) while the teacher is teaching and the rest of the pupils having difficulty to hear what the teacher is trying to teach, sometimes, the pupils' stories attracted more attention then the teachers.

Can you imagine, these poor pupils have to stay in the school from 7:15am to 4:10pm without a proper learning environment! The school is supposed to be the right place to study, but instead looked more like a place to "ruin" them. You can not imagine the psychological impact on these pupils. They can not study in school, probably not at home too! The poor kids are punished at such a young age, just because they are ignorant, playful, or lower IQ. If one is ruin at such a young age, he/she probably have a bleak future!

[currymee]

I got an email this morning that got me pretty stumped even until now I could not figure out how to answer.

The question was: What can the parents do if the school management decides not to proceed with the building of the new school block altogether citing lack of funds ? What will happen to all the money already collected ?

Honestly, the only answer I can think of is ... WAIT, WAIT and WAIT abd hope for the best ... like one senior parent who told me that she started donating when her daughter was in Std 2 and next year she will be in SMK USJ12 .... left the school already ... still KIV ....

Another answer is GIVE MORE MONEY would be the PIBG AJK preferred answer :rolleyes: :p

PS: I think the emailer was thinking about getting "refunds" but I don't think that is at all possible or feasible as it is classified as a "donation" ;)

[Rhiga]

...PS: I think the emailer was thinking about getting "refunds" but I don't think that is at all possible or feasible as it is classified as a "donation" ;)

Bro,

I am thinking the same line like the emailer - I want my money back !! ;) :D

If after money paid, promise of product/service did not deliver, and without any idea when can be delivered ? :eek:

Any chance to bring to consumer tribunal court ?? :D

[Jennylim]

I was responding to fongkimseng's posting. What happened before in Lick Hung is diff from his type of streaming class.

I realised there are many things happening in Lick Hung I don't or didn't know too. You seem like a concern parent, you should join the PIBG. I am sure you can contribute a lot to school.

[currymee]

I was responding to fongkimseng's posting. What happened before in Lick Hung is diff from his type of streaming class.

I realised there are many things happening in Lick Hung I don't or didn't know too. You seem like a concern parent, you should join the PIBG. I am sure you can contribute a lot to school.

Thanks for clarifying :)

Same here for most of us, that is why we have this forum to help each other :)

As for joining the PIBG committee/AJK (note: all parents with children in the school are automatically PIBG members with voting rights! ;) ), I have thought about it this year but having seen the way things were done (the PIBG election) and controlled by the HM in the Lick Hung PIBG AJK, I rather stay outside of them.

I know the PIBG AJK and HM monitor this forum, so this has also become a "channel" to let them know what parents are thinking and on issues that concern the parents. ;)

[currymee]

Bro,

I am thinking the same line like the emailer - I want my money back !! ;) :D

If after money paid, promise of product/service did not deliver, and without any idea when can be delivered ? :eek:

Any chance to bring to consumer tribunal court ?? :D

Bro,

You can't be SERIOUS !! :p :p :D :D :D

[currymee]

Some lessons in donation for the PIBG AJK

Read this article in the Star and some key points on donations and how the charities are evolving .... key point: TRANSPARENCY - perhaps, LH PIBG AJK can learn a few things too ... :rolleyes:

Key extracts (from full article) ....

Children's rights activist Dr Hartini Zainuddin said the “secret” to winning donors' support is to be transparent and maintain a close relationship with them.

She said many organisations were worried the lack of funds but did not know what was wrong with their method of attracting donors.

“Malaysians are no longer taking money out of their pockets because of a one-time feel-good factor.

“Donors want to know that we are not just doing a charity but are involved in a long-term social investment,”

..... Human rights body Suhakam commissioner James Nayagam, formerly the Shelter Home executive director, said it was crucial for non-profit organisations to keep donors interested in their work.

Providing annual reports and audited accounts to donors have become the accepted norm, he said.

“They (donors) need to be shown that you are not interested only in their money.”

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/12/11/nation/10077606&sec=nation

[currymee]

GREAT NEWS

Construction of New Block Has Started !!! :D

I got an sms from an excited mum this morning that she saw constuction work has begun on Lick Hung's new school block :) . Since my morning was already full with visits from relatives, I only managed to drop by just now. ( Aiyah :( - I was hoping to grab a bowl of currymee but CHoy Kee was closed for holiday also. :p )

YUP !! GOOD NEWS !! :D :D The old block has been torn down (partially demolished) and the construction fencing/barriers to seal off the construction zone from the rest of the school blocks and courtyard are being erected.

The construction area covers the whole basketball area as well, so no more basketball for Lick Hung for a while.

Well, looks like June/July single-session target can still be achieved :cool:

JIA YU !! JIA YU !! :)

[aerobax]

GREAT NEWS

Construction of New Block Has Started !!! :D

I got an sms from an excited mum this morning that she saw constuction work has begun on Lick Hung's new school block :) . Since my morning was already full with visits from relatives, I only managed to drop by just now. ( Aiyah :( - I was hoping to grab a bowl of currymee but CHoy Kee was closed for holiday also. :p )

YUP !! GOOD NEWS !! :D :D The old block has been torn down (partially demolished) and the construction fencing/barriers to seal off the construction zone from the rest of the school blocks and courtyard are being erected.

The construction area covers the whole basketball area as well, so no more basketball for Lick Hung for a while.

Well, looks like June/July single-session target can still be achieved :cool:

JIA YU !! JIA YU !! :)

Yes, I saw a bulldozer and mechanical digger hard at work tearing the old block down after my breakfast at Choy Kee this morning.

[currymee]

Yes, I saw a bulldozer and mechanical digger hard at work tearing the old block down after my breakfast at Choy Kee this morning.

aerobax,

Thanks for the updates :)

I am happy to note that work has finally started on the new block - at least, it is great news before I go off for my Xmas holidays tomorow :) :)

MERRY XMAS to one and all :D

[Rhiga]

..

I am happy to note that work has finally started on the new block - at least, it is great news before I go off for my Xmas holidays tomorow :) :)

MERRY XMAS to one and all :D

Bro,

Merry Xmas to you and your family… :)

Have a great holidays.. :)

Cheers

[Fledgeling]

Thanks for the update on the new block! Happy to hear the news and do keep us updated on the progress. Merry, Merry Christmas and enjoy your hols! :D

[aerobax]

aerobax,

Thanks for the updates :)

I am happy to note that work has finally started on the new block - at least, it is great news before I go off for my Xmas holidays tomorow :) :)

MERRY XMAS to one and all :D

CM,

You are welcome. I will update the forum if I happen to pass by :)

I was actually looking for the "construction notice board" (that states the purpose, who is the contractor, what is being build, when, why, MPSJ approval no. etc ) but could not see it :confused:

Merry Christmas and have a happy holiday with your family ! :)

[panda3838]

Does it mean the school has collected enough money and there is no more need for donations for the new building ? :confused:

[jan tomaswaki]

GREAT NEWS

Construction of New Block Has Started !!! :D
Well, looks like June/July single-session target can still be achieved :cool:
:)

Well CM the bet on one bowl of Choy kee curry mee is still on if it opens in June/July sessions.

[QuietStorm]

Well CM the bet on one bowl of Choy kee curry mee is still on if it opens in June/July sessions.Can the loser of the bet buy me a bowl too? *slurp*

:D:D

[cupofcoffee]

Well CM the bet on one bowl of Choy kee curry mee is still on if it opens in June/July sessions.

Wah, like that also want to bet ? :p I am in too :)

[cupofcoffee]

Does it mean the school has collected enough money and there is no more need for donations for the new building ? :confused:

Somehow, I don't think so ... next after completing the building, they will ask the parents to furnish the classrooms .... :rolleyes:

[Jennylim]

As for joining the PIBG committee/AJK (note: all parents with children in the school are automatically PIBG members with voting rights! ;) ), I have thought about it this year but having seen the way things were done (the PIBG election) and controlled by the HM in the Lick Hung PIBG AJK, I rather stay outside of them.



Well, u can't go in there alone trying to make a diff. You may try to get a number of peoples to join u as a team. While waiting for my kid, I used to hear parents complained every now and then. A few have warned the school to be more rational when dealing with their children but most of them dare not complained because they don't want their children to be victimized later.

On surface things may appear to be ok in school, but a lot of psychology war is going on. The children are the ones suffer due to excessive emphasis on academic achievement. There is a need for the teachers to change their style so that the children would grow up a confident and creative leader, not a timorous, obedient worker.

Having said that, some parents are also at fault, their over emphasis on academic achievement pressure the school to be demanding. May be a new team of PIBG committee would be a more effective communication channel.

[wongjie90]

Well, u can't go in there alone trying to make a diff. You may try to get a number of peoples to join u as a team. While waiting for my kid, I used to hear parents complained every now and then. A few have warned the school to be more rational when dealing with their children but most of them dare not complained because they don't want their children to be victimized later.

On surface things may appear to be ok in school, but a lot of psychology war is going on. The children are the ones suffer due to excessive emphasis on academic achievement. There is a need for the teachers to change their style so that the children would grow up a confident and creative leader, not a timorous, obedient worker.

Having said that, some parents are also at fault, their over emphasis on academic achievement pressure the school to be demanding. May be a new team of PIBG committee would be a more effective communication channel.Those parent claimed that they are very concern and care on their children education but never attend PIBG meeting every year. So, why these parent complaining so much

[jan tomaswaki]

Having said that, some parents are also at fault, their over emphasis on academic achievement pressure the school to be demanding. May be a new team of PIBG committee would be a more effective communication channel.

The PIBG committee also sits in the school Board of Governors,so how lah!!also for many years.....already...

[Jennylim]

Those parent claimed that they are very concern and care on their children education but never attend PIBG meeting every year. So, why these parent complaining so much

So, you are aware of parents complained but they didn't attend PIBG meeting?

Jan, the board of director is open to all!

[wongjie90]

So, you are aware of parents complained but they didn't attend PIBG meeting?

Jan, the board of director is open to all!
if a school consist of 3000 students, which mean, you might have 3000 parents and 6000 mothers and fathesr. As you can see every year, the attentance of parents only less than 100 and where are the rest ? How can they form a new PIBG members if they are not satisfy with the current school management ?

[Jennylim]

I attended PIBG meeting in another school, every year, without fail until my children graduated. There seem to have a lot of parents attending PIBG meeting, including Malay parents who can't understand Chinese. It is a very good school, not much of a problem, most parents would have nice things to say about the school, the PIBG, and the Board of Directors. Kind of strange, though the number is small but USJ parents usually attend the meeting there.

It's strange why parents attendance in Lick Hung is so small. Could it be the meeting is usually at the most inconvenient time? I remember those meetings normally clash with some other activities(contest at another place, activities in another school, etc) I had.

[sydneymak]

Went to Jusco to buy school uniform........Bought KikiLala brand because the daddy wants the more comfortable type for his precious princess. 2 set of uniform cost about RM 100.......can't wait to receive the RM 100 from the government :p

5 more hours i'll be sending my gal to Lick Hung for the std 1 prep class.....Hope she enjoys the class. anyone sending your kids tomorrow too? see you there

[currymee]

Went to Jusco to buy school uniform........Bought KikiLala brand because the daddy wants the more comfortable type for his precious princess. 2 set of uniform cost about RM 100.......can't wait to receive the RM 100 from the government :p

5 more hours i'll be sending my gal to Lick Hung for the std 1 prep class.....Hope she enjoys the class. anyone sending your kids tomorrow too? see you there

Yes, she will enjoy :) IF you start POSITIVE by telling her she will be going to school to make NEW FRIENDS and when she comes home, ask her, if anything funny happens or if she has made any new friends, or who is the boy/girl sitting next to her ....

Whatever you do, DON'T ASK - "Did you cry ... ", "Did you miss mummy/daddy etc .... " , "Did any other boy/girl cry ... " ?

FOCUS ON THE POSITIVES .... :) Do keep us posted on how she is doing :)

[currymee]

I attended PIBG meeting in another school, every year, without fail until my children graduated. There seem to have a lot of parents attending PIBG meeting, including Malay parents who can't understand Chinese. It is a very good school, not much of a problem, most parents would have nice things to say about the school, the PIBG, and the Board of Directors. Kind of strange, though the number is small but USJ parents usually attend the meeting there.

It's strange why parents attendance in Lick Hung is so small. Could it be the meeting is usually at the most inconvenient time? I remember those meetings normally clash with some other activities(contest at another place, activities in another school, etc) I had.

Yes, the Lick Hung's PIBG AGM is held on SUNDAY MORNING at the same time as the Christian parents are going to church, so that rules out an active group of parents. A few of the parents that I spoke to regularly highlighted this issue to me and they have made a number of requests for it to be shifted but to no avail.

[currymee]

Well, u can't go in there alone trying to make a diff. You may try to get a number of peoples to join u as a team. While waiting for my kid, I used to hear parents complained every now and then. A few have warned the school to be more rational when dealing with their children but most of them dare not complained because they don't want their children to be victimized later.

....

Yes, this does happen ... one ex-parent told me that after one PIBG AGM incident a few years back where the father was vocal on an issue, the teacher made "snide remarks" at his children in school regularly until the father told the children to tell the teacher, "please go talk to my father" if you are unhappy.

I was told that it stopped after the father paid the class teacher a surprise visit. :mad:

[currymee]

if a school consist of 3000 students, which mean, you might have 3000 parents and 6000 mothers and fathesr. As you can see every year, the attentance of parents only less than 100 and where are the rest ? How can they form a new PIBG members if they are not satisfy with the current school management ?

EXACTLY !! :( But looking at the way things are run ... I am not sure IF any SANE STRAIGHT THINKING parent will want to join the PIBG AJK !! I know I definitely don't want to be part of the HM-controlled group !!

Every year I attend the PIBG AGM, I don't know whether to laugh (at the comedy act of the HM and Chairman, the prize-giving of plaques to the AJK themeselves (self-rewarding and congratulatory) and the election process) or to cry (at the apathy shown by the majority of parents who do not attend) ... but still I attend and say my piece. :p

[Rhiga]

Dear all,

Is LH school (morning session) starts on Wed, 4 Jan 2012, not Tuesday, 3 Jan ?

Cheers

[currymee]

Dear all,

Is LH school (morning session) starts on Wed, 4 Jan 2012, not Tuesday, 3 Jan ?

Cheers

Bro,

The WHOLE SCHOOL reopens on WEDNESDAY 4th JANUARY 2012.

Special Note:
The Orientation Day for ALL new Std 1 kids will be on the 3rd January 2012.

[Rhiga]

Thanks Bro,

Just wonder why Tues is an off day ?? :confused:

[currymee]

Thanks Bro,

Just wonder why Tues is an off day ?? :confused:

Tues (3rd) is still part of the LONG school holiday from Nov 2011 :)

According to the MoE official school calendar, 2012 school terms start on the 4th January - yup, it is strange but then again, semua BOLEH in Malaysia :D

[currymee]

Big Step Jump in Maths from Std 2 to Std 3

I had a look and let my son try some of the Std 3 Maths.

Just to let some of the coming Std 3 (2012) parents know to take note of the BIG STEP JUMP in Maths syllabus esp with the introduction of the long-form DIVISION with remainders and FRACTIONS. It takes a while for the kids to grasp the concepts, so you may want to start early on these two sections.

They may scream and shout "pu-chee-tao" as to what on Earth are these but do be patient when teaching them these concepts, it is one of the bedrock of Std 3 and upwards Maths.

PS: I always let my son do Maths during the school holidays to keep the brain ticking .... :)

[fRaNkY]

Talking about kiasuness...... :D

[fRaNkY]

Yes, the Lick Hung's PIBG AGM is held on SUNDAY MORNING at the same time as the Christian parents are going to church, so that rules out an active group of parents. A few of the parents that I spoke to regularly highlighted this issue to me and they have made a number of requests for it to be shifted but to no avail.

Also, ching ming time!

[fRaNkY]

Went to Jusco to buy school uniform........Bought KikiLala brand because the daddy wants the more comfortable type for his precious princess. 2 set of uniform cost about RM 100.......can't wait to receive the RM 100 from the government :p

5 more hours i'll be sending my gal to Lick Hung for the std 1 prep class.....Hope she enjoys the class. anyone sending your kids tomorrow too? see you there

How is kid doing on first day?

[Busy Mom]

Went to Jusco to buy school uniform........Bought KikiLala brand because the daddy wants the more comfortable type for his precious princess. 2 set of uniform cost about RM 100.......can't wait to receive the RM 100 from the government :p

5 more hours i'll be sending my gal to Lick Hung for the std 1 prep class.....Hope she enjoys the class. anyone sending your kids tomorrow too? see you there

How is kid doing on first day?
We were there this morning :) Things are quite well organised by the teachers just that parents are overly kan-cheong and wouldn't budge even numerous reminders to leave the school compound resulted being 'shooed' out instead (yours truly included) :p

My gal enjoyed herself throughout the whole session. Btw, I've subscribed the catered food from canteen for my gal...RM100 for 2mths. Will update about the food when school officially starts. Will be another long day tomorrow...purchase of school books start tomorrow till friday (9am-11.30am).

[sydneymak]

I saw on the notice board that school reopens on 4th January........I'll try to snap photo and post it here.

my gal is doing fine. I managed to introduce a new fren to her before she entered the classroom. And mummy made lots of new frens today too.......

I didn't subscribe to the food catering. or should I?

Busy Mom, which class is your gal?

So LH is going to start one session for ALL this July?

[Busy Mom]

I saw on the notice board that school reopens on 4th January........I'll try to snap photo and post it here.

my gal is doing fine. I managed to introduce a new fren to her before she entered the classroom. And mummy made lots of new frens today too.......

I didn't subscribe to the food catering. or should I?

Busy Mom, which class is your gal?

So LH is going to start one session for ALL this July?
She is assigned to 1H. So for this week she will be in the 'green' class. How about yours?

I'm just trying out the school catering for 2 months. Reason being for her to settle-in in a new environment before she starts having her own group of friends to hang out during recess.

I'm curious, at what time is the recess for std 1?

[currymee]

Talking about kiasuness...... :D

Hahahaha :D .... fRaNkY, my "kiasuness" is a WEIRD VERSION one :p :p - normal kiasu, you hide and keep the "secret" and competitive advantage all to yourself and don't share !!

Mine, I tell the WHOLE WORLD .... hahahahaha .... :D

Actually, it is more of keeping my son busy with some work and keep the DISCIPLINE going over the long school holidays or else he will be plonked in 24/7 with ANGRY BIRDS .... :eek:

When I found him struggling with these sections of the Maths, it dawned upon me that certain steps and procedures need a bit more time than usual to be taught and understood. Since my boy is about average in LH, so I assume that most children may also suffer similar challenges later on in Std 3, so I might as well alert the other parents too !!


Big Step Jump in Maths from Std 2 to Std 3

I had a look and let my son try some of the Std 3 Maths.

Just to let some of the coming Std 3 (2012) parents know to take note of the BIG STEP JUMP in Maths syllabus esp with the introduction of the long-form DIVISION with remainders and FRACTIONS. It takes a while for the kids to grasp the concepts, so you may want to start early on these two sections.

They may scream and shout "pu-chee-tao" as to what on Earth are these but do be patient when teaching them these concepts, it is one of the bedrock of Std 3 and upwards Maths.

PS: I always let my son do Maths during the school holidays to keep the brain ticking .... :)

[currymee]

We were there this morning :) Things are quite well organised by the teachers just that parents are overly kan-cheong and wouldn't budge even numerous reminders to leave the school compound resulted being 'shooed' out instead (yours truly included) :p

...

Hehehe ... been there, done that, KENA SHOO-ED ALSO ... :D :D

Welcome to the club !! :cool:

Don't worry about it, it is all NORMAL for parents to react like that. And it is also normal for Ms Tan (Asst HM afternoon session) to use her MEGA LOUDHAILER to chase everyone out !! :D

Enjoy these few life-changing days .... tell your children when they are older, these are stories of the future for grandchildren !! :p :p

[currymee]

...
I'm curious, at what time is the recess for std 1?

Afternoon session recess (std 1 and 2) is from 3:40 to 4:00pm

Parents CANNOT GO in during this time for SAFETY and SECURITY reasons - they are afraid strangers may walk in and kidnapped or hurt a child.

[currymee]

I saw on the notice board that school reopens on 4th January........I'll try to snap photo and post it here.

my gal is doing fine. I managed to introduce a new fren to her before she entered the classroom. And mummy made lots of new frens today too.......

I didn't subscribe to the food catering. or should I?

So LH is going to start one session for ALL this July?

Good for you :) Most important thing is to share and help first !! :D

As for food catering, it all depends on your child and you, if you are happy to "pack" her recess snack/meal then that is the best way - cheaper and you can control what she eats and the quality as well.

I know that for some working parents, it is not possible to "pack", hence they opt for the canteen food. However do take note that from what I have observed of kids in Std 1 and 2 from my conversations with them, after the initial few months, most kids just grab a small bite or even abandon the food altogether to go and play instead - so it is wasted BUT they will not tell you lest they get scolded .... so parents ended up paying for uneaten food for months before realising it :eek: .

So, what you should do is after the initial period of say 4-6 weeks (2 months), just ask the kids if they still LIKE (don't say eat - it will make them defensive !! :eek: ) canteen food or not, if not, then can "pack" - it gives the kids a "way out" ;) - if they say, yes, they like, then you know they eat and want to continue ... otherwise, if no, then it is time to stop the catering and resort to "pack" food or give some pocket money to buy food.

[fRaNkY]

I think std 1 kids dont eat alot so the catering will be a waste. Most of the time not finish or not eaten.

Try to make a sandwich or an egg or something they like will do.

They will be back by 1pm right? Mm yui ngor sei kei :D

[currymee]

CRAZY LONG QUEUE AT SCHOOL BOOKSHOP !!! :eek:

I went with one of my friend as his daughter will be in Std 1 in Lick Hung next year. I "kaypoh" :o :p a bit since I plan to go for currymee lunch afterwards while the little girl was attending the Program Transisi.

OMG :eek: !! The queue was crazy - it was worse than Jaya Jusco on members Sales Day !! There were like 4-5 lines and almost 20-30 parents deep each and the number of people keeps on building up UNTIL the order was given to shut the school gate by 11:00 am !!!

Anyway, we managed to get in and had to queue for almost 2 hours before it was my friend's turn to purchase. I had a great time talking to a few new parents and scared the "shit" out of them also with all the LH "homework" stories hahahahaha ... :D :D And I AM NOT KIDDING !!! :eek:

Anyway, I got a copy of the booklist for Std 1 2012 (see below) - from what I can see, AS USUAL, only section B and C are required. Section A is FREE and Section D, in my opinion is a waste of money ... :rolleyes:

Note:
FYI - items 13, 15, 16 and 25 will be given by the school class teachers later but you have to purchase now.

DON'T FORGET - You can also buy the SCHOOL UNIFORM BADGES (new version - with an additional ring for HPS) for 90cents each - they are all the sew-on type - not ironed ype.

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/Std1Booklist-1.jpg

[currymee]

Well CM the bet on one bowl of Choy kee curry mee is still on if it opens in June/July sessions.

You are ON !! :p :D :D

FYI - they are starting to do the PILING now !!! :eek:

A few new parents are now getting worried (bookshop queue gossip) IF the building will be "SAFE" if they continue at break-neck speed construction .... :eek:

[currymee]

I got an email asking me about dates .... so I am repeating this post by BusyMom for the new Std 1 (2012) parents - (see letter below)

Orientation Day - 30th December 2011 (Friday)

First day of school for Std 1 (2012) is 3rd January 2012 (Tuesday)

All other standards (Std 2-6), first day of school is 4th January 2012 (Wednesday).

Why all different ? - good question and like my son and his friends always reply when I ask them a question - "poo chee tao" (i.e. don't know!!) :p :p One of the mysteries of Lick Hung .... :rolleyes:



Rather than clicking on the link, you can refer here. Pardon my spamming the thread :o

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd412/busymom11/Lick%20Hung/LHOrientation_30Dec.jpg

[ctb]

Orientation Day - 30th December 2011 (Friday)

First day of school for Std 1 (2012) is 3rd January 2012 (Tuesday)

All other standards (Std 2-6), first day of school is 4th January 2012 (Wednesday).

Why all different ? - good question and like my son and his friends always reply when I ask them a question - "poo chee tao" (i.e. don't know!!) :p :p One of the mysteries of Lick Hung .... :rolleyes:

I think the notice was given before MOE announce the school reopen date which is on 4th January. I asked one of the teacher this morning and she said the whole school will start on the same date. Maybe have to clarify again.

[jan tomaswaki]

You are ON !! :p :D :D

FYI - they are starting to do the PILING now !!! :eek:

A few new parents are now getting worried (bookshop queue gossip) IF the building will be "SAFE" if they continue at break-neck speed construction .... :eek:
we were see.....

[sydneymak]

My gal is in 1 I (purple).

Today I subscribe to the food catering, let her try out the food in canteen like CM said.

CM, you really "geng", Q up for 2 hours with us. and you act fast to post the book list.... I bought everything except the last section and the abacus.

I snap the photo on the latest update of school reopen date (4th Jan 2012).

I also snap photo on the banned visiting hours. So parents, if you plan to meet the teachers, please go at the right time.

but, how to upload photo here?

[sydneymak]

my gal showed worry face when she saw me: why are you so late, I'm so worried about you....

When i asked my gal about the interesting things that she learnt today in class, she keep telling me that her only friend is mad at her. everyone is mad at her including the teacher because she does her work wrongly....... :( dunno how to handle her

[currymee]

my gal showed worry face when she saw me: why are you so late, I'm so worried about you....

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This is VERY IMPORTANT !! Please take note seriously. It is part of child psychology and if you can handle it well, it will make the MAJOR DIFFERENCE between a happy or miserable start for the new Std 1 child for the first few months.

1) For a child, starting Std 1, is a MAJOR NEW AND CHALLENGING PHASE in life - a phase that can last as long as 20 years (formal education) if they go all the way to get PhDs !! They have a lot of little worries and concerns but they will not let you know. Slowly, address each one by one, don't rush .... solve one at a time. In sydneymak's case above, her daughter has already hinted at the MOST COMMON CONCERN among new Std 1 kids - the worry of being left (abandon) in school esp when she sees other children all going home while she waits.

2) For the FIRST TIME, esp comes JANUARY, the child will definitely feel at one stage or another - the feeling of "abandonment" when you leave them at the school gates and can no longer accompany them all the way to the classroom or if they ssuddenly feel "pressured" or dislike the school routine, not making friends, scolded by teachers, homework chore etc .... - this is a RED ALERT to take note.

Do not brush it off as unimportant or just growing up phase (even though it is but to the children, it is like a HUGE MEGA PROBLEM and WORRY), take heed, pay attention and use this stage as the time to coach and parental guide.

One KEY STRATEGY to overcome this stage is for the PARENTS TO BE PUNCTUAL (10 minutes early is ON TIME was what I advised the parents back in 2010 !!) in picking up the kids esp at the early few weeks. If you can, try to rearrange your work or life schedule to make sure you don't miss this time. Then you can confidently tell your child that "Don't worry, just wait here, daddy/mommy will be here come rain or shine to pick you up when school finishes" - select a "pick-up point" in the canteen area and always be there.

Once they build up that TRUST, CONFIDENCE and FAITH that they will not be abandoned in school ... the rest is easier to resolve .... ;) Most children bawled their heads off at the start of school is because of this .... oh, some can also suffer from it a few months later ... delayed shocked !! :eek:

[currymee]

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When i asked my gal about the interesting things that she learnt today in class, she keep telling me that her only friend is mad at her. everyone is mad at her including the teacher because she does her work wrongly....... :( dunno how to handle her

Then tell her gently, it is ok, everyone makes mistakes, that is why all children go to school to learn. What is important is that you learn where, what and why you have done it wrong and try to improve from there.

As for the friends, just tell her, it is ok, just like in tadika, sometimes you and so-so also get mad with each other, what is important is to forgive, forget and be able to say sorry. Remind her that the other children are also first time and unsure like her, so just always be nice and polite and you will make a lot of other new friends !! :)

I need to remember and recall ALL the parental coaching that I did from 2009-2010 on my son and his group of friends ... hahahahaa .... so bear with me if I am a bit long-winded :p :D :D Getting old and forgetful. :( :o

ALWAYS REMEMBER TO PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR LITTLE SHOES and try to see and understand things from their perspective and THEN help to resolve it by using your knowledge and experience as an adult.

They are not little adults - they are still CHILDREN !! ;)

[sydneymak]

Wow!, your RED ALERT really alarm me. Actually i wasn't late. I walked straight to the canteen once the gate opened. As there were too many parents picking up their precious ones, by the time i reached her, she showed her worried face.

Yesterday, i acted more quickly than Monday. she was still worried...i think she need even more friends.....

Thanx CM. i wish all teachers apply the knowledge of child psychology too when they deal with kids, especially the new students. heard from one mummy that her son was scolded by the teacher because the son talked too softly when asking permission to go to toilet..:p

[currymee]

Wow!, your RED ALERT really alarm me. Actually i wasn't late. I walked straight to the canteen once the gate opened. As there were too many parents picking up their precious ones, by the time i reached her, she showed her worried face.

Yesterday, i acted more quickly than Monday. she was still worried...i think she need even more friends.....

Thanx CM. i wish all teachers apply the knowledge of child psychology too when they deal with kids, especially the new students. heard from one mummy that her son was scolded by the teacher because the son talked too softly when asking permission to go to toilet..:p

Oooopppss ... did not mean to scare you - just to draw your attention !! :p

If you are not late then just LET HER KNOW that there are so many parents waiting outside, so everyone has to come in carefully and slowly so as not to fall down, kids are smart, they will understand IF you tell them :) (btw, this is a common feature for Std 1 and 2 parents - so do let her know !)

Well, as for making friends, is your girl the "shy" type ? If she is not, then you can coach her by telling her when she sees someone she likes or want to be friends with, just go and say hello and introduce herself. Someone has to make the first move and all kids are naturally shy in the first few days, so you tell her to be the brave one and make the first move and each time, she has done that, congratulate her ... it is positive reinforcement for a child to come out of their "shy" nature :)

BTW, after they know each other for about a month or so ... they will all be like little out-of-control "monkeys" in the class :eek: :eek: , I know I have seen them many times .... Lick Hung teachers always have to frighten them with the "light-sabre" (cane) to bring some kind of control and order in class !! My son was caned in Std 1 so often until I was summoned to talk to the class teacher - paisei :o

I learned to overcome the shyness the HARD WAY many many moons ago :rolleyes: , if I want to date a girl, I don't ask I don't get ... so .... learn from there lah ... :p :D