SJKC Lick Hung Parents' Q&A Support Group

[currymee]

As for information on LINUS, this blog explains it quite well, much better than the double-speak, gobbledygook of the MoE official website :p :p

http://www.cikgublog.com/program-linus-sekolah/

I get most of the what's happening news in the Malayisan education system here ;)

[Mommy]

elea1,

I will only believe it when I see the NEW SCHOOL BLOCK on Dec 31st 2011 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If it is done and completed by then, there will be SINGLE-SESSION otherwise, I expect status-quo ... Std 1 and 2 in the afternoon due to shortage of 20 classrooms ...


Agree with CM. Only when we see the BLOCK :D
Btw, Std 3 is morning or afternoon session?

[currymee]

Agree with CM. Only when we see the BLOCK :D
Btw, Std 3 is morning or afternoon session?

Mommy,

Morning session for Std 3-6

Extra "classes" (some call it "school tuition") from Std 4 to Std 6.

I may be wrong here, so do correct me esp the senior parents with kids currently in Std 4-6 - if I remember correctly from what Simon Ngo mentioned to me all those months ago: Std 4 (2 days extra classes), Std 5 (3 days extra) and Std 6 (everyday, and some say also on certain Sat and Sun esp when UPSR in around the corner !!! :eek: )

[Mommy]

Mommy,

Morning session for Std 3-6

Extra "classes" (some call it "school tuition") from Std 4 to Std 6.

I may be wrong here, so do correct me esp the senior parents with kids currently in Std 4-6 - if I remember correctly from what Simon Ngo mentioned to me all those months ago: Std 4 (2 days extra classes), Std 5 (3 days extra) and Std 6 (everyday, and some say also on certain Sat and Sun esp when UPSR in around the corner !!! :eek: )

thanks thanks
I was worry to hell yesterday hearing the "rumours" that kids will be kicked out if they dont do up to expectation due to classroom limitation. I cannot guarantee that my son will be doing well until std 6.
Understand there is a huge gap from Std 2 Vs Std 3 and very huge gap in Std 4. Also, some chinese school has already started "Nilai Murni" in their Std 3 Bahasa paper which most children has difficulty to cope.

[Totoro2010]

[B]After Std 1, the school will use the school exam results as the measurment.
"Std2 will use the school exam result as the measurment of LINUS", is this acceptable by KPM?

CM, are you sure LH practised the same?

[currymee]

"Std2 will use the school exam result as the measurment of LINUS", is this acceptable by KPM?

CM, are you sure LH practised the same?

That is what my son's teacher told the kids in his class .... knowing LH, they will also do the LINUS tests as well, the more tests the merrier sems to be the school philosophy :rolleyes: ... btw, this is Malaysia, so many loopholes in IMPLEMENTATION of any Govt projects, so I am not surprised .... :D :D

PS: Lick Hung BM exams are "easier" than LINUS at the same comparative stage for BM BUT not for Maths (the reverse) - win some lose some ...... ;) :p :p

[Mommy]

I am not sure if any of your boys have the same problem as mine. Recently, his grades has drop, hence I checked with his class teacher. Apparently he is talking a lot during the teacher is teaching.
Anyone have idea how to reduce the boys talking and focus/concentrate in the class?

[cupofcoffee]

I am not sure if any of your boys have the same problem as mine. Recently, his grades has drop, hence I checked with his class teacher. Apparently he is talking a lot during the teacher is teaching.
Anyone have idea how to reduce the boys talking and focus/concentrate in the class?

Since your son is obviously an active boy, is he sitting next to a quiet girl ? Preferably, a studious no-nonsense girl who pays attention and does well in class.

If he is not, ask the teacher to change his sitting place and sit him next to such a girl, instant cure !

Happened to my son last year during Std 1 and his class teacher changed him to sit next to such a good girl and my son changed tremendously and his grades also shot up !! :D

I like this little girl :) as she is very confident and once walked up to me (Std 1) and told me that my son talked too much when teacher was talking, embarrassed the hell out of my son and he stopped doing so :p I told him to learn from her and thankfully he did !

From that day, he also made a very good friend :)

[currymee]

Since your son is obviously an active boy, is he sitting next to a quiet girl ? Preferably, a studious no-nonsense girl who pays attention and does well in class.

If he is not, ask the teacher to change his sitting place and sit him next to such a girl, instant cure !

Happened to my son last year during Std 1 and his class teacher changed him to sit next to such a good girl and my son changed tremendously and his grades also shot up !! :D

I like this little girl :) as she is very confident and once walked up to me (Std 1) and told me that my son talked too much when teacher was talking, embarrassed the hell out of my son and he stopped doing so :p I told him to learn from her and thankfully he did !

From that day, he also made a very good friend :)

COOL SOLUTION !!!! :cool: :cool: :D

Problem is ... there are more talkative boys than good girls, so how ... ? :confused: ;) :p

[Mommy]

COOL SOLUTION !!!! :cool: :cool: :D

Problem is ... there are more talkative boys than good girls, so how ... ? :confused: ;) :p

thanks for the advice. I will try to ask the class teacher to sit him next to a pupil who focus and concentrate...

[wongjie90]

thanks for the advice. I will try to ask the class teacher to sit him next to a pupil who focus and concentrate...
It only help a bit. You must let your son sit in front of the teacher but normally it will reject by the teacher

[currymee]

It only help a bit. You must let your son sit in front of the teacher but normally it will reject by the teacher

LH practises a DAILY SEATING ROTATION system for all classes, so the kids will move from row to row and column by column daily, so everyone gets a turn to seat under the fan, near the teacher :eek:, AWAY from the teacher :D , near the windows to day-dream :cool: , at the end of corner to sembang and play :p etc .... :p :D

IMHO, it is the FAIREST seating system in any school - kudos to the teachers for coming up with the system !!

Only the absolute rascals are asked to sit NEXT to the teacher .... :rolleyes: and even so, it will be for a couple of weeks till HE (usually boys ;) ) behaves.

[currymee]

Teacher is right - sokong !!

Yesterday, one of the mothers told me that in her daughter's class, the class teacher scolded and punished one of the children "kaw-kaw" for stealing another person's mechanical pencil.

The daughter said that the teacher told the child that next time, she will not scold or punish anymore but will call the police and parents instead. The boy will go to jail for stealing. It seems that the teacher scared every kids with her statements and the mother was not happy about that.

I told the mother that the TEACHER IS RIGHT !! Stealing (even 10 cents) is a criminal offence under the Penal Code and by right, it is a crime that should be handled by the police and magisterate court. The mother looked surprised at my statement. Aiyah :mad: ... the children today are so spoiled that even the parents are "blinded" by what is RIGHT and WRONG !! :mad: :mad:

I said the teacher did the right thing in warning and telling the children the consequences of stealing. I said I am glad and happy that she is teaching them the RIGHT MORAL values although it may sounds harsh but the message is loud and clear to all.

She has my full 100% support !! :) :)

[Mommy]

Agree!!! Children need to be taught the right & wrong since very very young age...and these teachers are of great help as they spend almost 8 hours in school when parents dont see what they are doing...
Stealing is really out of question!!!! To me even taking without asking permission is considered as stealing and should not be encouraged :eek:

[wongjie90]

Agree!!! Children need to be taught the right & wrong since very very young age...and these teachers are of great help as they spend almost 8 hours in school when parents dont see what they are doing...
Stealing is really out of question!!!! To me even taking without asking permission is considered as stealing and should not be encouraged :eek:
There was one girl stolen classmate electronic dictionary and suspect by the form teacher and there were a few withnesses ( her another classmate ) of this case. Her parents came and challenged the teachers and withnesses and asking where is the proof because the dictinary already hiden somewhere by this girl. One clever assistant HM notice that she has a brotrher also study in this school and finally the dictionary found in her brother bag. For your surprise, this girl look very innocence when she declared that she never steal it. To a lot of parents whom do not know that your child look like angle at home but he/she might be the other way at school, please be fair and rasional.

[wongjie90]

Agree!!! Children need to be taught the right & wrong since very very young age...and these teachers are of great help as they spend almost 8 hours in school when parents dont see what they are doing...
Stealing is really out of question!!!! To me even taking without asking permission is considered as stealing and should not be encouraged :eek:
My question is, if the electronic dictionary are not found and the parent will sue the teacher and school, so what can we do ?

[currymee]

My question is, if the electronic dictionary are not found and the parent will sue the teacher and school, so what can we do ?

Errr ... my son knows that I will always take his class teacher's side (the current Std 2 one) on any dispute so, habis cerita ..... :p :p :D :D

I used to tell him, if you are naughty in school and the teacher punishes you once, you come home, you will kena TWICE for shaming me AS IF I don't teach you any manners at home .... :)

[currymee]

Errr ... my son knows that I will always take his class teacher's side (the current Std 2 one) on any dispute so, habis cerita ..... :p :p :D :D

I used to tell him, if you are naughty in school and the teacher punishes you once, you come home, you will kena TWICE for shaming me AS IF I don't teach you any manners at home .... :)

Wow !! This statement has got some forumers reacting !!

I got a PM saying wouldn't it be BAD that I don't trust my own child ?

OK, let me say that I know both my child (and his "naughtiness") and his class teacher well enough that I entrust to her the well-being of my son while at Lick Hung. She is like my "surrogate" during those school hours and she knows that I trusted her completely. The other person I trust is the Asst HM :) , the one I DON'T TRUST AT ALL is the "politician" HM !!! :eek:

[Challenger]

the one I DON'T TRUST AT ALL is the "politician" HM !!! :eek:

that one didn't ruffled any feathers? :D

I have to admit that I would also take the teachers' side... :cool:

[Mommy]

Same here. I will text the teacher to confirm what happen

[Mommy]

I am in a dilemma here. I was told to travel (biz travel) during my son's exam. Usually, I will do revision with him 2 weeks before his exam and of course during the 2 weeks of exam. Any parents have done this before and comfortable with it? If yes, can I have some advice? :(

[fRaNkY]

Whenever wife goes to course or outstation, she would prepare a list and materials for them to do , every single day and would call back every nite to check on them.

Being a banana, i just make sure no tv pc fb etc

[sydneymak]

CM, you go to LH everyday? has the banner being brought down yet? (the Pendaftaran Kemasukan banner)

Parents are so concern about the children school exam. Me too. I'm have more to worried because i'm scared to become kiasu parent and instil phobia in my kids in their studies......how to cope?

[currymee]

CM, you go to LH everyday? has the banner being brought down yet? (the Pendaftaran Kemasukan banner)

....

Nope, the banner is still up - deadline is next week, so must still put up (MoE directive) :p :p Never mind, don't waste any more money, anyway LH parents for next year Std 1 should have kautim all registration processes by the end of first week :p :D

[currymee]

....
Parents are so concern about the children school exam. Me too. I'm have more to worried because i'm scared to become kiasu parent and instil phobia in my kids in their studies......how to cope?

It is OK to be kiasu - it means you are concerned and not bo-chap (don't care) :) :) The KEY is not to go crazy and overdose with "kiasu".

The children needs to be instilled with some sense of responsibilities and pride in their studies. I always tell my son and his friends that exams is the class teacher's way of checking their progress as to whether they have understood and mastered what she taught in school up to that point. (note: In Std 1-2, the class teacher is like the ultimate "heroine" in most of these kids' eyes and can do NO WRONG, so you must know how to leverage on this super-respect to motivate them, well, it works for my son and his friends ;) )

The MOST IMPORTANT THING is to set proper exam target range. For me, I told my son his MINIMUM targets (STICK) are:

1) Above 85% average - this figure was mentioned by the HM (in 2010 Orientation)
2) An "A" (above 80%) in every subject

REWARDS targets (for points/gifts redemption - CARROT) :rolleyes: :p

1) Above 90% average
2) Top 10 (until top 15) in class - to me, the logic is that usually around 100-150 students get 7As in UPSR in LH, so like running in a marathon, you don't have to lead the group but you have to try and get within striking range of the main group.

Well, he kena STICKS sometimes and nowadays more consistent in getting the CARROTS also :) . However do note that every now and then, some LH teachers will set "CRAZY" papers that test the kids way beyond their current standard, I relax the rules and targets when that happens.

[Mommy]

Whenever wife goes to course or outstation, she would prepare a list and materials for them to do , every single day and would call back every nite to check on them.

Being a banana, i just make sure no tv pc fb etc

Hi, do you mind to share how long does your wife travels? How does the kids fair about this? I worry that they will think mommy dont love them anymore, also worry that my hubby thinks my career/work is more important than the family...
Unfortunately, my son has not been very discipline in doing his homework, often have to complete with a cane around for both school and tuition homework. Moreover, my travelling dates should be during his exams.

[Rhiga]

I am in a dilemma here. I was told to travel (biz travel) during my son's exam. Usually, I will do revision with him 2 weeks before his exam and of course during the 2 weeks of exam. Any parents have done this before and comfortable with it? If yes, can I have some advice? :(

I doubt there is any method which you can “learn/borrow” from other forumers..!!

He is your kid.. you know him the best and the best/most comfortable method for him should come from you…

I think he is Std 2 now… i.e. there will be another 15-16 more school exams to go through.. you will likely travel during a few of these 16 exams..

Instill the discipline for him to do revision HIMSELF.. you can help to plan and prepare the revision content and timetable..

If he is not receptive to this discipline and the reuslt of the coming exam is less satisfactory..doesn't matter...The key is - you slowly and persistently instill a discipline for him to study himself, and follow your revision plan..

May take considerable time, and lots of effort and patience...

Cheers

[akiyoshi]

Hi, do you mind to share how long does your wife travels? How does the kids fair about this? I worry that they will think mommy dont love them anymore, also worry that my hubby thinks my career/work is more important than the family...
Unfortunately, my son has not been very discipline in doing his homework, often have to complete with a cane around for both school and tuition homework. Moreover, my travelling dates should be during his exams.

This is a good opportunity to let the kid own the responsibility of studying and completing his schoolwork without u hand-holding all the time.
If u constantly check what he missed, he would still fall back on you.
I trained my kids to source for help, like call friends to ask about homework, etc or face the consequences at school.
He he .. Empowerment ! :D

By the way, I used to travel weekly for a whole year on the extreme. Yes, a lot of adjustments and guilt trips but no, the kids didn't think they were less-loved when they understand that it was part of the job. In fact, sometimes glad that no one to scrutinize them ! On the other hand, it is often the parent who feels guilty for not doing enough ! :(

[currymee]

I doubt there is any method which you can “learn/borrow” from other forumers..!!

He is your kid.. you know him the best and the best/most comfortable method for him should come from you…

I think he is Std 2 now… i.e. there will be another 15-16 more school exams to go through.. you will likely travel during a few of these 16 exams..

Instill the discipline for him to do revision HIMSELF.. you can help to plan and prepare the revision content and timetable..

If he is not receptive to this discipline and the reuslt of the coming exam is less satisfactory..doesn't matter...The key is - you slowly and persistently instill a discipline for him to study himself, and follow your revision plan..

May take considerable time, and lots of effort and patience...

Cheers

I will agree with what is suggested here and do take note that it really takes a lot of time, effort and patience.

As an example, my son does 30 minutes of work daily even through the holidays and after one year (the whole of Std 1), he is now on "auto-pilot" mode when it comes to doing exercises, no more complaining or grumbling. he will just come to me and said what subject should I do today before I can start playing my toys and watch TV.

I also noticed that he now starts to do his own work if I forgot to set any work for him .... :)

[Mommy]

Thanks to all parents for your valuable comments and advice

[sydneymak]

Nope, the banner is still up - deadline is next week, so must still put up (MoE directive) :p :p Never mind, don't waste any more money, anyway LH parents for next year Std 1 should have kautim all registration processes by the end of first week :p :D

well well, another "good" work done via Google translation....told the HM and he said want to take it down. i wonder why no teachers notice it. or unable to identify the mistake? yet, I need to rely on them to teach chinese to my gal......fainted......

[currymee]

HAPPY HOLIDAYS & SELAMAT HARI RAYA

To all the parents, kids and teachers - have a GREAT BREAK and HOLIDAY :)

For the Std 6 (UPSR) students, give it your BEST SHOT, this is the last "lap" now - GOOD LUCK in revision !! :)

[currymee]

Thanks to all parents for your valuable comments and advice

Mommy,

You are most welcomed :)

That is the reason why we are here and participating in this mini-forum :)

Just remember that whatever advices that were given, it has to be customised to suit the child or to wean them into the "system" rather than forcing them.

Be patient - remember that we were once their age too .... ;)

[m2b]

Hi, I wonder if anyone has come across the same problem which I have. Lately my son's classmate keeps asking my son to lent him his exercise book which they are suppose to copy what the teacher asked them to do that day itself. It has becoming a habit which I'm quite annoyed because the kid seems to rely on my son to finish the work. Not only that even the parent came and just borrowed the book from my son at the end of the class without asking permission from me.

[currymee]

Hi, I wonder if anyone has come across the same problem which I have. Lately my son's classmate keeps asking my son to lent him his exercise book which they are suppose to copy what the teacher asked them to do that day itself. It has becoming a habit which I'm quite annoyed because the kid seems to rely on my son to finish the work. Not only that even the parent came and just borrowed the book from my son at the end of the class without asking permission from me.

m2b,

This is quite common in Lick Hung esp when the kids are sitting behind the class but like you said, sometimes it can become a bad habit.

I remembered one mum actually asked the other child (in front of the mother), whether his eyesight is ok and if not, better go see a doctor - message delievered loud and clear. The other mother said, no, eyesight is fine but just that her child is slow. However, after that, no more "borrowing" .... :p

[currymee]

m2b,

This is quite common in Lick Hung esp when the kids are sitting behind the class but like you said, sometimes it can become a bad habit.

I remembered one mum actually asked the other child (in front of the mother), whether his eyesight is ok and if not, better go see a doctor - message delievered loud and clear. The other mother said, no, eyesight is fine but just that her child is slow. However, after that, no more "borrowing" .... :p


However, having said that, I personally encourage my son to help his friends in this kind of situation. I always tell him it is good to help people but never let it be abused.

"One good turn deserves another"

[m2b]

However, having said that, I personally encourage my son to help his friends in this kind of situation. I always tell him it is good to help people but never let it be abused.

"One good turn deserves another"

I understand but I find that by helping the kid, he will not be independant and always rely on others. I've hinted the mum before and as usual the reply is that her son is slow at copying. I find that by lending to him everytime will cultivate the boy to not learn. Yet the mother don't see this as a problem at all. I also worried that the boy might lost or forgotten to return the book. At the end, my son will be the one to face the consequences of missing book. How can I politely say no and yet don't potray as a selfish person??

[currymee]

I understand but I find that by helping the kid, he will not be independant and always rely on others. I've hinted the mum before and as usual the reply is that her son is slow at copying. I find that by lending to him everytime will cultivate the boy to not learn. Yet the mother don't see this as a problem at all. I also worried that the boy might lost or forgotten to return the book. At the end, my son will be the one to face the consequences of missing book. How can I politely say no and yet don't potray as a selfish person??

Thick-skinned one :eek: .... errrr, not so sure leh how to cope except to tell STRAIGHT but that would not be so nice :o

[akiyoshi]

I understand but I find that by helping the kid, he will not be independant and always rely on others. I've hinted the mum before and as usual the reply is that her son is slow at copying. I find that by lending to him everytime will cultivate the boy to not learn. Yet the mother don't see this as a problem at all. I also worried that the boy might lost or forgotten to return the book. At the end, my son will be the one to face the consequences of missing book. How can I politely say no and yet don't potray as a selfish person??

Long time ago, a mother used to drop by my house to borrow exercise books from my son, recommended by teacher because we stayed nearest to them. But she quickly returned the books after photocopying, so no problem.
This went on for about a month or so, after that I guess her kid picked up speed.

Maybe u can just suggest that he calls to check than borrowing the book to prevent misplacing or losing or forgetting. Eventually, the kids will all write speedily ...

[m2b]

[QUOTE=akiyoshi]Long time ago, a mother used to drop by my house to borrow exercise books from my son, recommended by teacher because we stayed nearest to them. But she quickly returned the books after photocopying, so no problem.
This went on for about a month or so, after that I guess her kid picked up speed.

Maybe u can just suggest that he calls to check than borrowing the book to prevent misplacing or losing or forgetting. Eventually, the kids will all write speedily ...[/QUOTE.

Appreciate your suggestion but it is coming to 8 months and the kid still is slow to copy and rely on his parent. I symphatize the parent but its getting out of hand already. I guess like what CM said I'll just have to tell the parent straight on the face. 

[fRaNkY]

Get the kid's mom hp no incase forgot to return

[currymee]

BALIK KAMPUNG TIME

I am off !! See you all after the holidays :D :D :D

Time for the kids to reconnect with KAMPUNG LIFE and see real chickens and animals instead of headless, naked, frozen ones in SJ/USJ hypermarkets ;)

[aerobax]

Anyone knows when is the next (last) exams for the year ?

I just noticed that my son has lost (misplaced) the exam 2011 timetable :(

[Mommy]

Anyone knows when is the next (last) exams for the year ?

I just noticed that my son has lost (misplaced) the exam 2011 timetable :(


If there is no changes in timetable for Std 2, it will be 3-4 Oct and 10-12 Oct.

[aerobax]

If there is no changes in timetable for Std 2, it will be 3-4 Oct and 10-12 Oct.

TQ for the information :)

[sydneymak]

can parents stay back while waiting for kids taking part in Program Transisi?

[currymee]

can parents stay back while waiting for kids taking part in Program Transisi?

Nope, if I am not mistaken after the first day, the school will "chase" every parents out once the kids are settled into the classes.

Or like me, I camped out in Choy Kee and that was where I met and knew a few parents and discovered the BEST currymee in town !! :D :D

[cupofcoffee]

Nope, if I am not mistaken after the first day, the school will "chase" every parents out once the kids are settled into the classes.

Or like me, I camped out in Choy Kee and that was where I met and knew a few parents and discovered the BEST currymee in town !! :D :D

So, now we know the origins and connection between LH, currymee and Choy Kee :D

[fRaNkY]

Two days till school starts... Have they finishef their homework?

[currymee]

So, now we know the origins and connection between LH, currymee and Choy Kee :D

Hahaha :D :D

I guess the connection has always been there even before my time !!! :p It is just that it was never publicised "online" :D

BTW, my avatar (courtesy of Naka) is the Choy Kee large bowl of currymee with extra "siew yoke" - the WORKS !! :D :D :D

[currymee]

ADVICE for new Std 1 Parents (2012)

I hope you all will take the opportunity to say "hello" to each other and introduce each other's kids in the same class, exchange hp nos and emails etc during the Program Transisi and Orientation Day when you meet the other parents. Don't be shy - if you need an ice-breaker, just say, "currymee (of usj.com.my Parent's thread) advised us to do so .... " ;) :p :p

WHY?

Well, you never know when your child may need "help" with homework etc ... so if you help each other, esp kids in the same class, it will make LIFE A LOT EASIER.

Don't think of it in a selfish manner, as in what's in it for me, why should I help etc ... think of it as "help and help alike" - trust me, you will be glad one day when you have the hp no. of one of the parent of your child's classmate - spoken from experience of having helped and also being helped !! :D

[currymee]

UPSR Exam - Sept 13-15

For parents of Std 1 and 2, USUALLY (to be confirmed), the whole week of UPSR exam (12-16 Sept) is declared CUTI PERISTIWA - so be prepared if you have to make any kind of baby-sitting arrangements or take leave to stay home with the kids ;)

[currymee]

BELUM START - Mentally Exhausted Already !! :eek:

I don't know about other parents but when my wife asked me this morning to start getting prepared for the next exams in one month's time - my brain just went DEAD !!!!!

I told her sometimes I wonder who is studying in Lick Hung ? :p

She said start slow-lah .... slowly build up the momentum and discipline again after a ONE-WEEK BREAK :rolleyes: Yup, the father really enjoyed balik-kampung until ... :p :D :D :D

[Totoro2010]

BELUM START - Mentally Exhausted Already !! :eek:

I don't know about other parents but when my wife asked me this morning to start getting prepared for the next exams in one month's time - my brain just went DEAD !!!!!

I told her sometimes I wonder who is studying in Lick Hung ? :p

She said start slow-lah .... slowly build up the momentum and discipline again after a ONE-WEEK BREAK :rolleyes: Yup, the father really enjoyed balik-kampung until ... :p :D :D :D
I subconscious forgot the exam :p

Do you have the past year paper?

[sydneymak]

BELUM START - Mentally Exhausted Already !! :eek:

I don't know about other parents but when my wife asked me this morning to start getting prepared for the next exams in one month's time - my brain just went DEAD !!!!!

I told her sometimes I wonder who is studying in Lick Hung ? :p

She said start slow-lah .... slowly build up the momentum and discipline again after a ONE-WEEK BREAK :rolleyes: Yup, the father really enjoyed balik-kampung until ... :p :D :D :D

well, you and your wife are really a good example to me in guiding your kids in the study. I make sure my husband take part in the kid's study by telling him :Look at CM husband and wife team.....they work together, you know!

so, parents are not supposed to be inside the school......well well, have to wait outside the school then.......

[currymee]

well, you and your wife are really a good example to me in guiding your kids in the study. I make sure my husband take part in the kid's study by telling him :Look at CM husband and wife team.....they work together, you know!

so, parents are not supposed to be inside the school......well well, have to wait outside the school then.......

Thank you for the compliments but in our case, it is more that the father is Mandarin-illiterate :o :o , otherwise, I will be teaching him 100% ;)

I like teaching so it is a joy to me rather than a chore :)

[currymee]

I subconscious forgot the exam :p

Do you have the past year paper?

Unfortunately, the answer is NO :( I don't have the final exam's past year papers so have to start searching again unless some parents here already have some ready, please email to me currymee88@gmail.com :)

[Totoro2010]

Anybody can confirm tomorrow is Sport Day for LH?

Please advise what is assembly and dismiss time?

Thank you.

[sydneymak]

Thank you for the compliments but in our case, it is more that the father is Mandarin-illiterate :o :o , otherwise, I will be teaching him 100% ;)

I like teaching so it is a joy to me rather than a chore :)

Good. I found that i can be super patient with other kids, but not my own :p when i teach my gal, she can suddenly "lead me to Holland" and that really make me so frustrated. for example,i taught her the meaning of pantai and laut, she will respond " last time i went to the seaside and have picnic with my friends and it was so much fun hahahaha. What do you like to have for picnic? i am a waiter and you order" get so frustrated especially i need to rush to work soon......

maybe it is more stressful to teach own kid (in my case). even autistic student i can manage well and he shows huge improvement, i wonder why can't i do the same on my own kid.....too high expectation?

BTW, I went to Popular Book shop at Summit and there are in-house Promo there. I have few recommendation on Chinese Book, which i think will help our children in the subject.

1.Chinese Idioms in Action (1-4) 成语最精彩
ISBN : 978 981 4333 02 3
Specifications : 210 x 150 mm, 128 pages
Target readers : Primary
http://www.learners.com.sg/productdetail.aspx?id=410&cid=2
UP RM 17.90, Promotion: RM 9.90

Reason: each idiom comes with the definition, usage in sentences, synonym and antonym, origin of the idioms (story behind the idiom)best of all, a comic illustration on the usage

2. My First Literature (chinese) published by EPH儿童文学读物

Reason: The stories are written with han yu pin yin below the words. children can read wwith the help of han yu pin yin

3. If your children do not take extra tuition in mandarin class in kindergarten (like my gal) you can well prepare them well by using this book
High Frequency Chinese Words published by EPH 最常用的华文字

Reason: there are 128 chinese words that is used frequently. with these words, my gal can read lots of chinese story books on her own when she is 4 (although she sound like ang-moh)

To do well in mandarin, i introduce lots of story books to my gal. i notice that chinese comprehension in standard 3-6 mainly focus in 2 area: story of the modern day and story of the ancient chinese history (read idioms and its origin will help)

[currymee]

Good. I found that i can be super patient with other kids, but not my own :p when i teach my gal, she can suddenly "lead me to Holland" and that really make me so frustrated. for example,i taught her the meaning of pantai and laut, she will respond " last time i went to the seaside and have picnic with my friends and it was so much fun hahahaha. What do you like to have for picnic? i am a waiter and you order" get so frustrated especially i need to rush to work soon......

maybe it is more stressful to teach own kid (in my case). even autistic student i can manage well and he shows huge improvement, i wonder why can't i do the same on my own kid.....too high expectation?....



That is the SPOT ON REASON why majority of parents are not able to teach/educate their own children even though the parents are better educated/qualified than the tuition teachers themselves !

I know a couple of parents who are PhD Associate Professors in UM and they also cannot teach their own Std 2 and 5 kids easily. They mentioned that half the time they ended up shouting and screaming at the kids while in UM, if the "big kids" don't pay attention or understand, they can "go and die" :rolleyes: BUT not your own kids at home, die-die also must understand :eek: , thus the STRESS of home-education ;) !

Second reason being the children are not "fearful" of the parents, so their attention may drift like what you mentioned.

What the UM parents have mentioned to me made me realised that DISCIPLINE and RULES must be CLEARLY SET EARLY and FOLLOWED STRICTLY.

With my son, I mentioned to him, that everyday (during school days) he must study/revise for AN HOUR BEFORE he can play or watch TV. If he sulks, he can sit there at his desk for the whole day and don't move ! He "challenged" a couple of times and after he realised that I am strict and fair on the rules, no more problems.

Now, he wakes up, quickly has his breakfast, does his study (we agreed ahead on what topics to cover, so I don't "cheat" by adding on later :p and he doesn't cheat by dragging ... :D ) and after he has finished - PLAY TIME.

[currymee]

....

BTW, I went to Popular Book shop at Summit and there are in-house Promo there. I have few recommendation on Chinese Book, which i think will help our children in the subject.

1.Chinese Idioms in Action (1-4) 成语最精彩
ISBN : 978 981 4333 02 3
Specifications : 210 x 150 mm, 128 pages
Target readers : Primary
http://www.learners.com.sg/productdetail.aspx?id=410&cid=2
UP RM 17.90, Promotion: RM 9.90

Reason: each idiom comes with the definition, usage in sentences, synonym and antonym, origin of the idioms (story behind the idiom)best of all, a comic illustration on the usage

2. My First Literature (chinese) published by EPH儿童文学读物

Reason: The stories are written with han yu pin yin below the words. children can read wwith the help of han yu pin yin

3. If your children do not take extra tuition in mandarin class in kindergarten (like my gal) you can well prepare them well by using this book
High Frequency Chinese Words published by EPH 最常用的华文字

Reason: there are 128 chinese words that is used frequently. with these words, my gal can read lots of chinese story books on her own when she is 4 (although she sound like ang-moh)

To do well in mandarin, i introduce lots of story books to my gal. i notice that chinese comprehension in standard 3-6 mainly focus in 2 area: story of the modern day and story of the ancient chinese history (read idioms and its origin will help)

Thank you for the recommendations :) :)

I will get the 3rd book FOR MYSELF !!! :o :D :D

[currymee]

Anybody can confirm tomorrow is Sport Day for LH?

Please advise what is assembly and dismiss time?

Thank you.

Bro,

As far as I am aware, it is to "replace" the RAIN-OUT Sports Day a few weeks back, my son says it is "business" as USUAL in school, just bring sports T-shirt as if there is PE lesson and go see what is happening .... no big deal :rolleyes:

It will happen as part of the daily time-table, no special time whatsover ... unless, my son again does not pay attention when teacher is speaking :o :o

[rachel sj]

UPSR Exam - Sept 13-15

For parents of Std 1 and 2, USUALLY (to be confirmed), the whole week of UPSR exam (12-16 Sept) is declared CUTI PERISTIWA - so be prepared if you have to make any kind of baby-sitting arrangements or take leave to stay home with the kids ;)

Hi parents,

My girl told me next week (UPSR week) the school is off on the following days:

13 sept (Tues) - off day for std 1, school day for std 2

14 sept (wed) - off day for std 2, school day for std 1

15 Sept (thurs) - off day for both std 1 and 2

16 Sept (fri) - public holiday - Malaysian DAY

Can anyone confirm what she said is true ? :)

[rachel sj]

Anybody can confirm tomorrow is Sport Day for LH?

Please advise what is assembly and dismiss time?

Thank you.

Didnt know this until i read this thread....thanks for the info, that's why i say this thread benefits me a lot :)

[Mommy]

Hi parents,

My girl told me next week (UPSR week) the school is off on the following days:

13 sept (Tues) - off day for std 1, school day for std 2

14 sept (wed) - off day for std 2, school day for std 1

15 Sept (thurs) - off day for both std 1 and 2

16 Sept (fri) - public holiday - Malaysian DAY

Can anyone confirm what she said is true ? :)


My son told me 12 Sept (Mon) is also off day :confused:

[currymee]

There is a lot of CONFUSION on the dates of the UPSR "off-days" for Std 1 and 2 at the moment - yesterday, every single child has a different version but all agreed that 16th Sept is OFF, other than day ... aiyoyo :eek: .... I am still waiting for a black & white notice from the school.

[currymee]

Bro,

As far as I am aware, it is to "replace" the RAIN-OUT Sports Day a few weeks back, my son says it is "business" as USUAL in school, just bring sports T-shirt as if there is PE lesson and go see what is happening .... no big deal :rolleyes:

It will happen as part of the daily time-table, no special time whatsover ... unless, my son again does not pay attention when teacher is speaking :o :o

My son just confirmed - AFTER RECESS, all kids go to the school HALL and have the indoor "Sports Day" ;) :D All to wear Sports/PE t-shirt.

[jan tomaswaki]

Bro,

As far as I am aware, it is to "replace" the RAIN-OUT Sports Day a few weeks back, my son says it is "business" as USUAL in school, just bring sports T-shirt as if there is PE lesson and go see what is happening .... no big deal :rolleyes:

It will happen as part of the daily time-table, no special time whatsover ... unless, my son again does not pay attention when teacher is speaking :o :o
First time in my whole life parents are not aware or notify a important event.Maybe nowadays when they want money they will be informed :mad:

[currymee]

First time in my whole life parents are not aware or notify a important event.Maybe nowadays when they want money they will be informed :mad:

No-lah, I think it is the ATTITUDE of the school management towards sports and extra-curricular activities are considered NOT IMPORTANT compared to number of children scoring 7As in UPSR in a child's education at Lick Hung (or any SJKC, for that matter, compared to SK )

[Totoro2010]

My son just confirmed - AFTER RECESS, all kids go to the school HALL and have the indoor "Sports Day" ;) :D All to wear Sports/PE t-shirt.
CM, do you mean they all allow to wear Sports/PE t-shirt even BEFORE RECESS time :confused:

[currymee]

CM, do you mean they all allow to wear Sports/PE t-shirt even BEFORE RECESS time :confused:

Hahaha ... no such thing :D - classes before recess are as usual - so they CHANGE clothes during/after recess - just like normal PE lessons except, every class do it TOGETHER today !!

[jan tomaswaki]

No-lah, I think it is the ATTITUDE of the school management towards sports and extra-curricular activities are considered NOT IMPORTANT compared to number of children scoring 7As in UPSR in a child's education at Lick Hung (or any SJKC, for that matter, compared to SK )
Every year oomp and the poom of the school sport was held in MPSJ,what say more 1sukan 1murid by 1PM

[currymee]

Every year oomp and the poom of the school sport was held in MPSJ,what say more 1sukan 1murid by 1PM

Good point :)

As for the "slogan", you know-lah, BN Govt, every Kementerian must have a slogan all starting with 1-XXX to "curry favours" with 1Najib ... :rolleyes:

I hope you don't take these slogans and policy rubbish by Kementerian Pelajaran too seriously.

The only thing that is REALIABLE and CAN BE TRUSTED in Malaysian education is the fact that parents just have to make sure when your child finishes Form 5, they are well-equipped to face the global standard higher education and the world market DESPITE the stupidity and failings of the Malaysian education system !!

That is the REAL CHALLENGE - forget about the system helping the kids, you have to help the kids TO OVERCOME the system !! :eek:

(Note: It is COMPULSARY to send the kids to Govt schools (required by law) UNLESS you are super-loaded and can afford "alternative" private education - I am refering to my own case where my children will have to go through 12 years of Malaysian "education" but it is my duty as a father to EDUCATE them to world-standard and not Malaysian standard)

[currymee]

Unfortunately, the answer is NO :( I don't have the final exam's past year papers so have to start searching again unless some parents here already have some ready, please email to me currymee88@gmail.com :)

Std 2 Past Year papers (last exam - Sept )

I would like to say BIG THANK YOUs to a few parents (LP, OSC and YPC) that have emailed me bits and pieces of the Std 2 past year paper.

So far, I have English, Science, BM Penulisan and BC Penulisan. Some of the papers need to be tided up ;)

I hope other parents can also help to "fill in the blanks/missing papers" and once I get a complete set I will start to email out to everyone who request - standby for notice ;)

[currymee]

There is a lot of CONFUSION on the dates of the UPSR "off-days" for Std 1 and 2 at the moment - yesterday, every single child has a different version but all agreed that 16th Sept is OFF, other than day ... aiyoyo :eek: .... I am still waiting for a black & white notice from the school.

WHAHAHAHA :D :D ... Now all the parents and transporter aunties also CONFUSED !!!! :D :D Sat down for my lunch at Choy Kee at a table next to them and heard the discussion and conclusion is EVERYBODY TOTALLY BLUR and waiting for OFFICIAL NOTICE !!! :p :p

One "smart alec" boy said "Aunty don't know, mummy also don't know ... so no need to come, I stay at home and do revision !!" ... smart-alec boy kena "ear-bashing instead :p :p

[currymee]

Special thanks to SLYEP :)

I have to post a special thank you to one of the forumers here (SLYEP) - she just emailed to me a whole bunch of Std 3 and 4 past year papers - THANKS A MILLION from the Lick Hung parents here :)

I am happy to say that a number of parents are also sharing and networking here :)

I have to spend some time sorting them out and rebundling them for the future distribution !! :D Any current Std 3 or Std 4 parents that are interested in them, please email me currymee88@gmail.com or PM me your email - please be ready to accept at least 5MB of attachment.

As for Std 1 papers, please note I only have KBSR SYLLABUS, not KSSR (which is the current syllabus being used in Std 1 2011 onwards). I was told that there are some differences, so please take note.

[maxout]

Hi parents,

My girl told me next week (UPSR week) the school is off on the following days:

13 sept (Tues) - off day for std 1, school day for std 2

14 sept (wed) - off day for std 2, school day for std 1

15 Sept (thurs) - off day for both std 1 and 2

16 Sept (fri) - public holiday - Malaysian DAY

Can anyone confirm what she said is true ? :)

I cannot confirm for Std 1 but it is correct for Std 2. Next week, for Std 2, ONLY TUESDAY (13th Sept) is a school day - the rest are all off-days.

Monday (12 Sept) is also OFF-DAY for Std 2.

[aerobax]

My son informed me that there is a "Charity Run" today (7th Sept) - can anyone confirm this ? :confused:

If it is true, why is the school having so many extra-curricular activities during school hours without informing the parents in writing ? :mad:

What if any accident were to happen ?

[currymee]

For Std 2 Days-off during UPSR week

I have double-checked with my son's class teacher yesterday. Exactly just like what maxout posted.

School Day - TUESDAY ONLY (13th Sept)

Monday - OFF due to Mid-Autumn celebration
Wed, Thurs - OFF due to UPSR exams
Friday - OFF due to Hari Malaysia (however the school maintains that it is to be confirmed pending official notice from MoE but guess what, it is NATIONAL HOLIDAY !!) ;)

[currymee]

My son informed me that there is a "Charity Run" today (7th Sept) - can anyone confirm this ? :confused:

If it is true, why is the school having so many extra-curricular activities during school hours without informing the parents in writing ? :mad:

What if any accident were to happen ?

Hmmmmm .... I don't expect too much anymore :p

Yes, there is a "run" today - I have checked with my son, for what he does not know (classic LH response - poo chee tau) .... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BTW, it will be fairly SAFE, the kids will be running in the school padang (field) at the back rather than on the roads, so don't worry too much ;)

[Mommy]

Hmmmmm .... I don't expect too much anymore :p

Yes, there is a "run" today - I have checked with my son, for what he does not know (classic LH response - poo chee tau) .... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

BTW, it will be fairly SAFE, the kids will be running in the school padang (field) at the back rather than on the roads, so don't worry too much ;)


Yup, son said the same thing. they will be running 2 rounds from the field to carpark. that's all.... :D

BTW, thanks to all parents that contributed the exam papers exp CM whom has always been our major source.

[Totoro2010]

Yup, son said the same thing. they will be running 2 rounds from the field to carpark. that's all.... :D

Seems all your kids are smart to memorise the message of teacher/school & convey clearly to you

My little blur sotong only said it will be charity run on today but didn't know what time and where to run :o

[currymee]

Seems all your kids are smart to memorise the message of teacher/school & convey clearly to you

My little blur sotong only said it will be charity run on today but didn't know what time and where to run :o

Totoro,

Your kid is OK, don't knock him down too much - it is just a matter of paying MORE attention to the teacher :)

My son used to be like that UNTIL one day, he messed up his assignments at school and was "punished" by the teacher .... after that he starts to listen carefully and take notes ;)

[Mommy]

By the way, I have a new found way to get my son to complete his task on time. Every day, I made him write the timing to complete each of his hw.
EG: If he starts at 8.30pm, 8.30-9pm -> Chinese writing; 9-9.30pm -> Chinese Maths & so on. I started this since last week during the long break.
So far, it helps a bit on his discipline in timing.
Perhaps, some parents would like to have a try :p

[currymee]

OFFICIAL NOTICE - Cuti Belajar UPSR Tahun 2011

Aiyah - why make things so complicated ? Some Stds (esp Std 4) go ON and OFF like a Xmas light bulb !! :p

Just give everyone the whole week OFF - settled ;)

Hopefully, next year, the school will think and plan carefully and yes, they can make up for the days via extra Saturday classes ... then not so confusing like this ...

I like the part ... "Untuk mewujudkan suasana yang selesa ... " - well, I have just given them an IDEAL solution for "suasana paling selesa" ... non-UPSR students, CUTI !! :D
- everyone HAPPY !!

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/LH-UPSRholidays-2011.jpg

[Mommy]

I wish someone can enlighten me about yesterday charity run. My son was told that only those that donated can participate for the run. Problem is my son dont even know whether he donated or didnt donated & of course he didnt dare to participate despite the teacher didnt specify the names. Funny thing is I dont remember receiving any donation card/request for this... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[currymee]

I wish someone can enlighten me about yesterday charity run. My son was told that only those that donated can participate for the run. Problem is my son dont even know whether he donated or didnt donated & of course he didnt dare to participate despite the teacher didnt specify the names. Funny thing is I dont remember receiving any donation card/request for this... :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Mommy,

FYI, the "Charity Run" was based on the minimum of RM20.00 donation "collected" for the NEW SCHOOL BLOCK building fund.

Remember the "little card" that was handed out a few months back ? Well, inside the card after the details of the child and parents, there was a BOX for you to tick whether you want the child to take part or not in the Run.

The funds were supposedly in the form of "sponsorship" of the child running for the school ... unfortunately, everything was written in Chinese, so my son had to explain to me that part.

[Mommy]

Mommy,

FYI, the "Charity Run" was based on the minimum of RM20.00 donation "collected" for the NEW SCHOOL BLOCK building fund.

Remember the "little card" that was handed out a few months back ? Well, inside the card after the details of the child and parents, there was a BOX for you to tick whether you want the child to take part or not in the Run.

The funds were supposedly in the form of "sponsorship" of the child running for the school ... unfortunately, everything was written in Chinese, so my son had to explain to me that part.

OIC, & I actually donated more than RM20 for this. Unfortunately, I dont think I do any ticking on the card. Anyway, I was just curious why has to be done this way. My son was so disappointed that he couldnt take part when he didnt even know whether he donated for this run or not. Usually what I do is to clip the monies in the card and ask him to hand it to the teacher. Was just thinking the teacher should have list of names who can and cannot participate if they want to be particular about this instead of letting the children go "blur" altho maybe I shd blame my son for being "blur sotong. Sigh!!! :mad: :( :rolleyes:

[currymee]

Mastering ENGLISH - focus on the TENSES

Yesterday, I had the good fortune to meet up with one of the parents for lunch at ParkWay (yup, change of venue for char-kuay-teow :D ) and he mentioned to me what he learned recently from his discussions with one of his relatives.

It is NO BIG SECRET but nevertheless worth mentioning since the person who gave the advice is a senior English teacher/examiner for the last 30 years !! :eek:

She said to master the foundation of a SOLID ENGLISH requires the TOTAL MASTERY of the English TENSES - the other aspects are important BUT NOT AS CRITICAL, for once you mastered the tenses , 80% of English is "in the bag", others being increasing your vocabulary, punctuations, gerunds, adjectives, adverbs etc ...

He also recommended a book that he bought from Casamac. The book is SIMPLE and well laid out with Chinese explanation as well. It is meant for SJKC level. The publisher is United Publishing House and the cover looks like this (see below) and price is RM3.50 (ISBN: 983-01-0218-1)

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/BasicEnglishTensesBk.jpg

[currymee]

Std 2 - Past Year Paper 2009

Once again, a special thank you to YC for emailing the Std 2 Past Year paper for 2009.

Please email me or PM me if you want a copy - currymee88@gmail.com

Note: I always ask you to email or PM me if you want because I don't want to send unsolicited emails. Yes, it can be tedious but I prefer it this way as some of you may already have the papers from other sources. :)

Std 2 -past year paper 2010 - I have got most of the papers but all of them need a LOT OF TIDYING and digital erasing, so it will be in a week or two before I am ready to email out.

I am still looking for Std 2 2010 BM Pemahaman past year paper.

[sydneymak]

The school chooses not to call 1 week off for all, maybe because there are too many holidays and teachers would rather go teaching to finish the syllabus.....

CM, another best way for you to learn chinese words is to sing in karaoke room....this is how my husband learn.

[currymee]

Parents of Std 2 , 3 and 4,

I have received your email requests but I am not replying just yet as I am not in the position to email the papers to you - hopefully after UPSR week.

For those of you that have requested the papers, PLEASE NOTE that I need some TIME to digitally erase the name and Std of the children (to protect their anonymity) - that is what I promised the forumers who email the papers to me - so please bear with me - TQ :)

[currymee]

The school chooses not to call 1 week off for all, maybe because there are too many holidays and teachers would rather go teaching to finish the syllabus.....

CM, another best way for you to learn chinese words is to sing in karaoke room....this is how my husband learn.

Not so sure about that :rolleyes: ....

Most other SJKCs have the whole week OFF for easier administration and smooth proceeding of the UPSR. Furthermore, LH school management always said that they wanted "easier administration" - so it is kind of stupid or lack of proper planning if you ask me to have such a convulated time-table.

If LH wants to "show off" that it is hard-working and studious, there are better ways to do so than to have a "rojak" time-table during UPSR exam week !! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :p

Karaoke - cannot-lah - paisei :o :o ... voice like a broken old-horse (lau-beh) ... :p :p

[sydneymak]

Karaoke - cannot-lah - paisei :o :o ... voice like a broken old-horse (lau-beh) ... :p :p

sing alone or with your wife only, who will laugh at you.....but it really works.....

[fongkimseng]

Disappointed with Lick Hung's Money-Minded Attitude

I read some of the posts on the Charity Run and asked my grandson about it. He said that some of the children (who wanted to run) were forbidden from taking part because their parents did not donate/collect the minimum RM20.00. You can imagine the disppointment in the faces and minds of these young impressionable children.

WHAT ON EARTH IS THE SCHOOL THINKING OF ? :mad: They should be HAPPY AND GLAD that children want to take part and run. Instead they have impressed upon the children that they are "not equal" if you don't collect for charity. I hope the school reads up in the dictionary the meaning of the WORD CHARITY AND VOLUNTARY !

And if the school is so desperate to "punish" someone for not giving them the funds, GO AFTER THE PARENTS (if they dare) - don't punish the children !

It is VOLUNTARY CHARITY FUND RAISING for the new school block - sorry to say this - COW SENSE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT !! :mad:

[sydneymak]

CHARITY AND VOLUNTARY [/B]!

And if the school is so desperate to "punish" someone for not giving them the funds, GO AFTER THE PARENTS (if they dare) - don't punish the children !
:

hmmm, the school really handle this issue badly.......

[currymee]

Disappointed with Lick Hung's Money-Minded Attitude

I read some of the posts on the Charity Run and asked my grandson about it. He said that some of the children (who wanted to run) were forbidden from taking part because their parents did not donate/collect the minimum RM20.00. You can imagine the disppointment in the faces and minds of these young impressionable children.

WHAT ON EARTH IS THE SCHOOL THINKING OF ? :mad: They should be HAPPY AND GLAD that children want to take part and run. Instead they have impressed upon the children that they are "not equal" if you don't collect for charity. I hope the school reads up in the dictionary the meaning of the WORD CHARITY AND VOLUNTARY !

And if the school is so desperate to "punish" someone for not giving them the funds, GO AFTER THE PARENTS (if they dare) - don't punish the children !

It is VOLUNTARY CHARITY FUND RAISING for the new school block - sorry to say this - COW SENSE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT !! :mad:

Wow :eek: - I did not see it from that point of view :( .... now, that you have highlighted it :mad: :mad:

[birdy]

It has always been the precedence that all these charity run/walk .. or better known as walkathon requires you to donate a minimum to participate. The purpose of this walk is to celebrate the amount collected. Those days, we all also experienced the same, if you can remember.

As such, I don't see any wrongdoings by the school management. :)

Just my 2 cents opinion. ;)

[currymee]

It has always been the precedence that all these charity run/walk .. or better known as walkathon requires you to donate a minimum to participate. The purpose of this walk is to celebrate the amount collected. Those days, we all also experienced the same, if you can remember.

As such, I don't see any wrongdoings by the school management. :)

Just my 2 cents opinion. ;)

Birdy,

I think it is the MANNER at which the mesage (forbidden to take part) is conveyed to the kids that Cikgu Fong is grousing about.

Anyway, what really bugs me is how much will the new LH school block cost ?

[aerobax]

Birdy,

....

Anyway, what really bugs me is how much will the new LH school block cost ?

currymee,

If I were you, I would not let any of these matters worry me at all. If there is any financial misconduct by the school management and PIBG and you have solid evidence, just report them to the police and MACC. Let them sort it out.

It is a pure and simple case of criminal breach of trust, corruption or fraud irrespective of whether it is Lick Hung or not. A crime is a crime PERIOD.

Don't tolerate any nonsense or compromise on these matters.

[sydneymak]

frankly, i dun care how grand a hall a school has or whether there is or no aircon in the music room, audio and visual room, or library........i just wish there are enough classroom to occupy max 30 students only in each class, rather than squeeze 50 of active children in a class. audio and visual room? does the school really make good use of it to make learning interesting and fun? we should use the money in this area. developing software should be given more priority once we have the right amount of hardware

[jan tomaswaki]

does anyone notice that 2 blocks have been build since Lick Hung located in S/J but does it benefit any pupils?

1) fund raising for office block - that is located on top of the canteen,basically it is for the h/m and teachers office and admin office

2) the hall - located in the car park,it is only use for school dinner and school activities IF it rains

Don't beilive me,try to rent the hall,see if it is for rental ?

[currymee]

does anyone notice that 2 blocks have been build since Lick Hung located in S/J but does it benefit any pupils?

1) fund raising for office block - that is located on top of the canteen,basically it is for the h/m and teachers office and admin office

2) the hall - located in the car park,it is only use for school dinner and school activities IF it rains

Don't beilive me,try to rent the hall,see if it is for rental ?

Hmmmm .... and I heard that they plan to build another indoor hall for basketball. One school - 3 halls - kaya betul !!! All PARENTS' MONIES !!! :mad: :mad:

[currymee]

currymee,

If I were you, I would not let any of these matters worry me at all. If there is any financial misconduct by the school management and PIBG and you have solid evidence, just report them to the police and MACC. Let them sort it out.

It is a pure and simple case of criminal breach of trust, corruption or fraud irrespective of whether it is Lick Hung or not. A crime is a crime PERIOD.

Don't tolerate any nonsense or compromise on these matters.

Thank you - I will take note and remember what you said here :)

[Oogway]

They don't even let the kids use the hall for taekwondo lessons on Saturday as they still have to use the carpark.

Before they build the indoor basketball court, the school should pay for the school basket ball team's jerseys. I understand that the school players had to pay RM50 each to get the basketball jerseys even though they are representing the school!

[elea1]

Hmmmm .... and I heard that they plan to build another indoor hall for basketball. One school - 3 halls - kaya betul !!! All PARENTS' MONIES !!! :mad: :mad:

School halls is INCOME GENERATING....

[currymee]

School halls is INCOME GENERATING....

BUT not for Lick Hung, WHITE ELEPHANTS they have become ....


does anyone notice that 2 blocks have been build since Lick Hung located in S/J but does it benefit any pupils?

...

2) the hall - located in the car park,it is only use for school dinner and school activities IF it rains

Don't beilive me,try to rent the hall,see if it is for rental ?


They don't even let the kids use the hall for taekwondo lessons on Saturday as they still have to use the carpark.

Before they build the indoor basketball court, the school should pay for the school basket ball team's jerseys. I understand that the school players had to pay RM50 each to get the basketball jerseys even though they are representing the school!

[Mommy]

Any parents not sending their kids (Std 2) to school today? My son's transporter not fetching coz a lot not sending. Anyone knows if there will be important lesson today since exam is just weeks away?? :confused:

[currymee]

Any parents not sending their kids (Std 2) to school today? My son's transporter not fetching coz a lot not sending. Anyone knows if there will be important lesson today since exam is just weeks away?? :confused:

Officially, it is a SCHOOL DAY for Std 2, so .... your choice :)

[jan tomaswaki]

School halls is INCOME GENERATING....
they are FILTHY rich and don't need the money from the rental :mad: they money from parents

[sydneymak]

well, their office really big and comfortable for such small group of staffs. but is it true that the school allow their clients (students) squeeze in a smaller room than the admin office with lots of students (can be up to 50 in a class, according to 2011 statistics of number of students). hope the school never practice the strict usage of fan in the classroom (ie cannot switch on the fan when it is raining, cannot switch on the fan until 11am etc , to save cost kononnya)

I'm eager to tour around the school to see what infrastructure that they have and how they benefit the students. Do you think i can?...... if it turns out to be useless to the students, can i choose not to donate every quarter year or so? :rolleyes:

I send my gal to chinese school because i believe chinese is DAMN SERIOUS about education. Chinese school that i know of will rather spend money on upgrading the quality and standard of education, not so much in beautifying, or compete to have the most CANGGIH office and GRAND RENOVATION of the staff room :eek: (oh, sound like SOME corrupted government. good to look from outside but stale in within)

[elea1]

School halls is INCOME GENERATING....
Ha ha.. Just an update on school halls.. My daughter came back from school today... all smiles. Have never seen her so happy after school. She says.. MUM u can never guess what happen!!! I watch 5 movies in the SCHOOL HALL... it is just awesome!!!! the screen is so so big. It is so fun watching movies with my class mates.

Well.. Cheers to LICK HUNG... for once.. you have made the Std 5 kids... so so so happy for showing up in school today. Sometimes.. this is what school should be.. about. HAVING FUN!!!!! She say.. today my school is just like MUMMY school. Coz i told her how during my school days we get movie time... SOUND OF MUSIC, ANNIE... and some literature movies which is also a lesson by itself.

[currymee]

Ha ha.. Just an update on school halls.. My daughter came back from school today... all smiles. Have never seen her so happy after school. She says.. MUM u can never guess what happen!!! I watch 5 movies in the SCHOOL HALL... it is just awesome!!!! the screen is so so big. It is so fun watching movies with my class mates.

Well.. Cheers to LICK HUNG... for once.. you have made the Std 5 kids... so so so happy for showing up in school today. Sometimes.. this is what school should be.. about. HAVING FUN!!!!! She say.. today my school is just like MUMMY school. Coz i told her how during my school days we get movie time... SOUND OF MUSIC, ANNIE... and some literature movies which is also a lesson by itself.

WAH !!! Like that I also want to go back to school leh !! :rolleyes: :D :D :D

[elea1]

WAH !!! Like that I also want to go back to school leh !! :rolleyes: :D :D :D
yeap... 5 movies..!!! KUNG FU PANDA... The spy next door.... and some mandarin movie. Thursday, my girl suppose to skip school.. now she say must go to school!!!! I guess it is good also to take a break from all the studies.. as next week for STD 5.. it is tuition Monday to Friday...!!! in preparation for UPSR next year!!!!

[jan tomaswaki]

yeap... 5 movies..!!! KUNG FU PANDA... The spy next door.... and some mandarin movie. Thursday, my girl suppose to skip school.. now she say must go to school!!!! I guess it is good also to take a break from all the studies.. as next week for STD 5.. it is tuition Monday to Friday...!!! in preparation for UPSR next year!!!!
hey ! wait showing these movies are illegal as it stated in the box set (i suppose it is the original copy ) not pirated is only for personal viewing not public viewing :mad:

[currymee]

hey ! wait showing these movies are illegal as it stated in the box set (i suppose it is the original copy ) not pirated is only for personal viewing not public viewing :mad:

You are right !! - I also miss the "point" :o :o

[elea1]

You are right !! - I also miss the "point" :o :o

Hey! chill out... This movie sessions will be very memorable for the children.. something fun is happening in school admist all the pressure....

[currymee]

Hey! chill out... This movie sessions will be very memorable for the children.. something fun is happening in school admist all the pressure....

Hehehehe ... I know :p :D :D but Jan got a valid legal point - school can kena "saman" if the authorities want to get nasty and bitchy :(

However, THANKFULLY, we live in Malaysia, land of SEMUA BOLEH, close-one-eye, you don't say - I don't see etc .... :p :p :p :D :D

[akiyoshi]

All these years of schooling my kids in Lick Hung, under the Headmistress Mdm Choo Soo Yan, only on very rare occasions do children get a movie treat - like children's day, but not a movie marathon, and screening during UPSR.

Well, in the past UPSR week means all children except Year 6 of course, get to stay at home. .. if my memory serves me right.

This time, for some reason that they could not grant off-days (maybe quota exhausted already), they had to think of something to keep everyone quiet so just watch movie ??? :confused:

Hmmm...babysitting the lazy way. Don't think this is the right place nor the right thing to do. :rolleyes:

[jan tomaswaki]

All these years of schooling my kids in Lick Hung, under the Headmistress Mdm Choo Soo Yan, only on very rare occasions do children get a movie treat - like children's day, but not a movie marathon, and screening during UPSR.

Well, in the past UPSR week means all children except Year 6 of course, get to stay at home. .. if my memory serves me right.

This time, for some reason that they could not grant off-days (maybe quota exhausted already), they had to think of something to keep everyone quiet so just watch movie ??? :confused:

Hmmm...babysitting the lazy way. Don't think this is the right place nor the right thing to do. :rolleyes:

SOKONG ;)

[sydneymak]

The Sound of Music is better than Kung Fu Panda, and Kung Fu Panda is better than Transformers/spider man/iron man/Ip man.........for the purpose of education

[jan tomaswaki]

The Sound of Music is better than Kung Fu Panda, and Kung Fu Panda is better than Transformers/spider man/iron man/Ip man.........for the purpose of education
What about James Bond 007 ? :D

[currymee]

The Sound of Music is better than Kung Fu Panda, and Kung Fu Panda is better than Transformers/spider man/iron man/Ip man.........for the purpose of education

Errrrr .... all depends whether your TARGET AUDIENCES are boys or girls .... ;)

But, I do know that IF there is an "ANGRY BIRD" The Movie, sure all will like ... :D :D

[jan tomaswaki]

Errrrr .... all depends whether your TARGET AUDIENCES are boys or girls .... ;)

But, I do know that IF there is an "ANGRY BIRD" The Movie, sure all will like ... :D :D
What about Justin Beiber or look alike or singing contest? :D

[currymee]

I got a most puzzling PM just now - I was informed that LH has "concentration" classes for students that are poor in studies in preparation for UPSR exams - all the weak students are grouped together in Std 6 and then given special coaching to get them through - true or not ? :confused:

Perhaps some senior parents can help to enlighten us a bit here ...

[sydneymak]

I got a most puzzling PM just now - I was informed that LH has "concentration" classes for students that are poor in studies in preparation for UPSR exams - all the weak students are grouped together in Std 6 and then given special coaching to get them through - true or not ? :confused:

Perhaps some senior parents can help to enlighten us a bit here ...

you mean for last minute revision? or restream the std6 2012 according to their ability?

btw, for those parents whose children who are going to secondary school/or in secondary school, do you agree that they go for a tuition class which is taught in bilingual (ie, sejarah taught in chinese n a bit of bm, maths n sc taught in chinese and a bit of eng)

[currymee]

you mean for last minute revision? or restream the std6 2012 according to their ability?

...

I really don't know at all ... :o :o :o

But if they do restream, I think at std 6 it will be too late, better if they do so at Std 5.

[akiyoshi]

btw, for those parents whose children who are going to secondary school/or in secondary school, do you agree that they go for a tuition class which is taught in bilingual (ie, sejarah taught in chinese n a bit of bm, maths n sc taught in chinese and a bit of eng)


Huh ?? Don't think this is necessary. It is going to be even more confusing !
Not to worry .. they will adapt.
I am assuming you are referring to SMK secondary schools, not the CHinese Independent schools.
In such case, they will soon lose touch with Chinese. If you want them to select Chinese as a test subject, I think tuition in Chinese Language is necessary, as the school will not be able to prepare the students as a Chinese school could, to handle the test syllabus.

[sydneymak]

Huh ?? Don't think this is necessary. It is going to be even more confusing !
Not to worry .. they will adapt.
I am assuming you are referring to SMK secondary schools, not the CHinese Independent schools.
In such case, they will soon lose touch with Chinese. If you want them to select Chinese as a test subject, I think tuition in Chinese Language is necessary, as the school will not be able to prepare the students as a Chinese school could, to handle the test syllabus.

just happen to come across a tuisyen centre and understand that they teach history, geo, maths and science of SMK in Chinese. a bit surprise. but the teacher claims that students want it that way. as a parent, you agree with this?

[currymee]

I think Akiyoshi's proposal makes more logical sense. In fact, I know a lot of my wife's friends who had done it that way ... sat for Chinese in SRP and SPM as a separate language paper and they went for extra classes/tuition outside of normal school ... all for the love of the language. :)

[akiyoshi]

just happen to come across a tuisyen centre and understand that they teach history, geo, maths and science of SMK in Chinese. a bit surprise. but the teacher claims that students want it that way. as a parent, you agree with this?

I think the tuition teachers want it that way .. Not the students. The tuition teachers themselves may not be so confident in BM and English so opt to explain in Chinese !??? If the students are poor in BM and Eng, sending them to BM or Eng tuition makes more sense. Do not forget that they have to answer the papers in BM/Eng not Chinese.

So far, most students who enter the SMK secondary school are glad to drop Chinese, if given a choice. Dun think they will be lost if teachers teach everything in BM and Eng. On the contrary, I think they'll be lost if tuition teachers start to introduce the Chinese terms !

Those who love Chinese would consider Chinese Independent High School instead.

[currymee]

Std 2 Past Year Papers -2009 and 2010 - Email Out Already

Dear Std 2 Parents,

I have finished all the "preparation" already and have emailed out the papers to those that have requested :) .

PLEASE NOTE THAT: I do not have the Bahasa Melayu - Pemahaman Oct 2010 past paper, so if anyone has a copy and if you don't mind sharing, please email to me - thanks

Please check your emails.

IF you have not received them or I have forgotten to email you (too many names and my bad house-keeping/tracking :o ), PLEASE EMAIL ME AGAIN ( currymee88@gmail.com ) or PM me.

Good Luck and SELAMAT HARI MALAYSIA :)

[cupofcoffee]

Std 2 Past Year Papers -2009 and 2010 - Email Out Already

Dear Std 2 Parents,

I have finished all the "preparation" already and have emailed out the papers to those that have requested :) .

PLEASE NOTE THAT: I do not have the Bahasa Melayu - Pemahaman Oct 2010 past paper, so if anyone has a copy and if you don't mind sharing, please email to me - thanks

Please check your emails.

IF you have not received them or I have forgotten to email you (too many names and my bad house-keeping/tracking :o ), PLEASE EMAIL ME AGAIN ( currymee88@gmail.com ) or PM me.

Good Luck and SELAMAT HARI MALAYSIA :)

CM,

I have got the papers that you emailed - TQ very much for the effort and hard-work, most appreciated :) :) :)

[currymee]

I got a few PMs and emails thanking me for the help with the past year papers - you are welcome ! :) No big deal since I am preparing them for my son anyway, it is just a small matter of emailing and sharing with others.

Anyway, I am taking a break now to help my son focus and revise for the next 2 weeks - the last lap for Std 2 exams :) :)

[Totoro2010]

Std 2 Past Year Papers -2009 and 2010 - Email Out Already

Dear Std 2 Parents,

I have finished all the "preparation" already and have emailed out the papers to those that have requested :) .
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Thank you, Currymee, I have received the papers.:) :)

[currymee]

Thank you to YC for BM Pemahaman Oct 2010 paper

I just want to post a thank you for mummy YC for helping us once again with the "missing" BM-Pemahaman-Oct-2010 past year paper.

I need to tidy it up, so please give me a few days to do so and then I will email it to the other parents as well.

Thanks again from all the Std 2 parents in the forum :) :)

PS: My apologies to a few parents that have dropped off my email list - sorry, too many emails/names flying around - do remind me IF I have accidentally left you out. :o :o

[currymee]

Tough to get the motivation up !! :eek:

As the final exam for the year looms over the near horizon, I found that a lot of my son's friends including himself are finding it tough to get the revision engine going - it seems the "holiday" mood from UPSR is having a big effect !! :eek: :p :p

I have to remind my son - just study and focus for next 3 weeks, AFTER THAT, you can play for the next 8 WEEKS (long school holiday !) ;)

[sydneymak]

i dun blame the kids, because after a long school holiday, i feel lazy and just wanna lie on bed and doing nothing

[currymee]

Std 2 Bahasa Melayu Pemahaman Past Year Paper 2010 - Email Out Already

Dear Std 2 Parents,

I have finished tidying up the BM-Pemahaman 2010 past year paper already and have emailed out the papers to those that have requested :) .

Please check your emails, if you have not received it, please let me know asap.

Good Luck to the children (and parents) :)

[currymee]

Std 2 Exam 2-2 (Oct 2011) Scope

Ok, here we go .... one last round for 2011 !!!

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/ExamScope2-2_0001.jpg

[Totoro2010]

Std 2 Bahasa Melayu Pemahaman Past Year Paper 2010 - Email Out Already

Dear Std 2 Parents,

I have finished tidying up the BM-Pemahaman 2010 past year paper already and have emailed out the papers to those that have requested :) .

Please check your emails, if you have not received it, please let me know asap.

Good Luck to the children (and parents) :)
Thank you, currymee, I got the BM paper liao :)

And, thank you to mummy YC who provided the BM paper

[sewlover]

I just came back from oversea few weeks ago. My son is going to std1 lick Hung next year. He doesn't know any BM as he has been with international school kindy for the past 2.5years.
I need to find him a BM tutor urgently so he could learn some from now till end of the year. Does anybody know any good BM tuition teacher?

[currymee]

I just came back from oversea few weeks ago. My son is going to std1 lick Hung next year. He doesn't know any BM as he has been with international school kindy for the past 2.5years.
I need to find him a BM tutor urgently so he could learn some from now till end of the year. Does anybody know any good BM tuition teacher?

Std 1 BM is not tough at all - it is possible to self-teach at home IF you are prepared to spend some time doing so.

Since you are planning to start early (as in now), why don't you get some BM Std 1 books and try at home. You may be plesantly surprised to find that your child can learn BM easily provided attention and focus are given.

The most important aspect to master in Std 1 BM is the SUKU-KATA, this will help with the pronouncements :)

Give it a try first before taking the BM tuition route.

[currymee]

Std 1 BM is not tough at all - it is possible to self-teach at home IF you are prepared to spend some time doing so.

Since you are planning to start early (as in now), why don't you get some BM Std 1 books and try at home. You may be plesantly surprised to find that your child can learn BM easily provided attention and focus are given.

The most important aspect to master in Std 1 BM is the SUKU-KATA, this will help with the pronouncements :)

Give it a try first before taking the BM tuition route.

My mistake - pronouncements SHOULD BE PRONUNCIATIONS :o :o :o

BM is one of the easiest language to learn - all it takes is regular practice and reading. :)

[sewlover]

Std 1 BM is not tough at all - it is possible to self-teach at home IF you are prepared to spend some time doing so.

Since you are planning to start early (as in now), why don't you get some BM Std 1 books and try at home. You may be plesantly surprised to find that your child can learn BM easily provided attention and focus are given.

The most important aspect to master in Std 1 BM is the SUKU-KATA, this will help with the pronouncements :)

Give it a try first before taking the BM tuition route.


Thanks CM. I'm still new to the community. Really appreciate the advice. Will try to get the text book of std 1 and try out. Problem is I myself also half pail water when comes to BM. :-)
I heard maths also tough at LH? Std 1 is studying Std 2's level? Everybody open their eyes and mouth wide big after hearing that my son is going to LH next year. That scary?

[currymee]

Quit LH and going home-study route :confused:

Wow !! :eek: I had a few parents discussing with me yesterday of the prospect of quitting LH and to form a private home-study group on their own since they were all chessed off with the dismal education system and schooling in Malaysia.

Hmmm .... I must admit looks and sounds interesting .... one of the parents is an ex-schoolteacher (Mandarin) and she volunteered to teach Mandarin in lieu of SJKC.

It was the first time I was invited to take part in their discussions but by the sound of things, these mums have been discussing for quite some time already.

[Rhiga]

Apart from the Chinese language, the main reason I sent my kid to study in SRJKC is – he can learn the social interaction skills which cannot be taught if he studied at home, or in a well-protected private school..

I don't think home-studies is good for kids...

[jan tomaswaki]

Apart from the Chinese language, the main reason I sent my kid to study in SRJKC is – he can learn the social interaction skills which cannot be taught if he studied at home, or in a well-protected private school..

I don't think home-studies is good for kids...
Yes,i agree with you,kids must have a large pool of friends and parents also get to know each other.Home school is basically monotonous with no basic time table ,but lots of flexible time for children.

[currymee]

I think their thoughts were largely driven by concerns after reading this:

DPM: BM to continue as medium in national schools

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/9/30/nation/20110930160950&sec=nation

I get the feeling that these mums are just fed up of the politicians messing around with their kids education and future. One mum mentioned that all 3 of her children studied different things driving her nuts ... :eek:

So, they may even opt-out of the education system and make their own way. Why do I say that ? Well, it is because they asked me for help to research on international examination boards and syllabuses like IGCSE, International Baccalaureate (IB) etc ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_International_Examinations


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Baccalaureate

[Rhiga]

Well, if the parents think the education system is wasting their kids time ( I think the same way too), my advice is :

1. still go to government primary school, but don’t pay too much attention on the bolehland educational emphasis like UPSR.

2. focus on the global survival skills like English and Mandarin, and the essential EQ attributes like interpersonal social skills.

3. decide which school to go (chinese independent school or private school) in secondary level, based on your tertiary educational plan for them and financial flexibility.

4. Having said that, you can still send them to government school in secondary level if your plan for their tertiary education is in private university (local or overseas), just don’t pay too much attention on government exams. Focus on the international entry qualification like SAT, A level, etc.

To optimize the hard earn money, I think #4 is the best option.

Cheers

[rachel sj]

I share your view, Sagamihara.

Just that from employers' point of view, when i interview staff i do look at, at least, their SPM results, which is also quite commonly required by HR of most companies.

As such, I tend to go with # 3 considering the standard/level of english in government secondary schools might not (fully) keep up with that of O level. English is still the most commonly medium used in commercial/coprorates transactions in Malaysia (private sectors).

[Rhiga]

I share your view, Sagamihara.

Just that from employers' point of view, when i interview staff i do look at, at least, their SPM results, which is also quite commonly required by HR of most companies.

As such, I tend to go with # 3 considering the standard/level of english in government secondary schools might not (fully) keep up with that of O level. English is still the most commonly medium used in commercial/coprorates transactions in Malaysia (private sectors).

rachel sj,

I said option #4 is better because:

a. Cost : Cheaper to study in government school compares to Chinese independent school, private school and international school.

b. Syllabus: SPM is O level and STPM is A level, the main difference between SPM/STPM and O level/A level is the medium of language used in the exam. IF the student can grab the zest of the SPM/STPM syllabus AND his English command is good, then he should be able to score similar good results in O and A level which are widely accepted for overseas varsity entry qualification.

The disadvantage for option #4 is (my opinion) - the students are less exposed in government school and will lose out in the non-academic aspects when come to competition for places in top varsities..

Well, if money is no issue, send the kid to a good private/international school. Academic excellence is not difficult and nowadays is not a rare commodity. To be a hot asset for top varsities and corporations, academically good, mature attributes and good exposures are pre-requisites.

I also interviewed degree holders and I normally ask HR to request a full history of candidate's academic performance, from SPM / O level and every semester exam slips of the candidate. This helps to give a more accurate picture of the academic consistency of the candidate whether he/she enrolled into university by hard work, by Papa money or by lucky draw :eek: :p !!

It requires a set of positive attitudes to consistently demonstrate good academic performance..

Cheers

[Mommy]

Good Luck Kids :)

[rachel sj]

Well, if money is no issue, send the kid to a good private/international school. Academic excellence is not difficult and nowadays is not a rare commodity. To be a hot asset for top varsities and corporations, academically good, mature attributes and good exposures are pre-requisites.

I also interviewed degree holders and I normally ask HR to request a full history of candidate's academic performance, from SPM / O level and every semester exam slips of the candidate. This helps to give a more accurate picture of the academic consistency of the candidate whether he/she enrolled into university by hard work, by Papa money or by lucky draw :eek: :p !!

It requires a set of positive attitudes to consistently demonstrate good academic performance..

Cheers

Yup agreed! However 1 thing unsure from paying high bills of private institutions is whether the kids might think they are of the elite groups and hence, not able to mix well with ppl from different backgrounds.

I had once a brilliant young girl working in my team, good family backgrounds, went to international schools from young to overseas for uni but couldnt get along with other team members....she felt she's of better (social status & educational background) so couldnt sang same tune with her colleagues.... :o

[jan tomaswaki]

heard the the new school in usj3a "fairview" fees are from RM8000 and for every semester naik RM500 :eek: is it true?

[rachel sj]

wow...that's expensive. I dont know the fees for sure but my daughter's piano teacher told me Fairview at subang jaya charges about Rm2k per month, that makes it about RM24k in a year :eek: !

[Rhiga]

I have done a little survey 2 years ago...

Roughly, you need to prepare 20-30k per year for primary private/international school and 40-60k per year for secondary..

I would say for primary school, SRJKC is the best option for the reasons I mentioned before in this thread.

For secondary.. it is a tough choice.

But, if really decide for private school, go for a good one regardless of the fee.. no point chose private school just for the sake of going to private school.

Cheers

[LMei]

heard the the new school in usj3a "fairview" fees are from RM8000 and for every semester naik RM500 :eek: is it true?
Fairview is not just a private school but international school. That's why the fees are expensive.

[jan tomaswaki]

Fairview is not just a private school but international school. That's why the fees are expensive.
sorry to mention that also,it teaches Aussie,Englland and America syllabus.BTW is it true that fees increase every 4 months?Looks like Subang Jaya parents are very filthy rich ;)

[elea1]

Thanks CM. I'm still new to the community. Really appreciate the advice. Will try to get the text book of std 1 and try out. Problem is I myself also half pail water when comes to BM. :-)
I heard maths also tough at LH? Std 1 is studying Std 2's level? Everybody open their eyes and mouth wide big after hearing that my son is going to LH next year. That scary?
Wonder what happen to concept... I go to school to learn!!!???.. Now the concept is.. must finish STD 1 syllabus BEFORE entering Std 1.. and in Std 1... have to do Std 2 to be ready for STd 2. Go school just for exams?....

[lily2009]

Anyway, KSSR is easier than KBSR. If you follow the government's standard, you will be in the last group. That's the only reason why we need to learn more than what the government required.

[currymee]

I still remember the time (70s and 80s) when private and international schools WERE REGARDED as schools for rich kids who flunked their normal exams and studies in normal school, cannot make the grade but daddy is loaded, so .... sigh ... how times have changed for the Malaysian education system for the worse !! :(

[lily2009]

I still remember the time (70s and 80s) when private and international schools WERE REGARDED as schools for rich kids who flunked their normal exams and studies in normal school, cannot make the grade but daddy is loaded, so .... sigh ... how times have changed for the Malaysian education system for the worse !! :(

because of politics, politicians care for their votes. It would be better for them if the voters are poor educated.

[evelynlim]

My neighbour send his son to a private school after studied in SJK for 5 years in USJ1.It's monthly school fees is about RM400+,they follow US syllabus,more on goals setting & bible studies is compulsory. Tuition fees also about this price already,I'm thinking of going to this school & check it out.

[ctb]

I still remember the time (70s and 80s) when private and international schools WERE REGARDED as schools for rich kids who flunked their normal exams and studies in normal school, cannot make the grade but daddy is loaded, so .... sigh ... how times have changed for the Malaysian education system for the worse !! :(

Has anyone notice that the private schools are grooming like mushroom these two years especially in subang jaya? There are Ace Adventure, Kingsley and...The advantages that I heard are they complete secondary level in 4years and the medium of instructions is in English. BM and BC are using Singapore syllabus, so will be easier. Save time and money as we don't have to send for extra tuition. My daughter's friend transfer to Kingsley in September and he is place in standard 4 based on his ability whereas my daughter still in standard 2.

[currymee]

The thing to note here for all parents (including myself) who are weighing the possible options is that ONCE YOU GET OUT OF THE FORMAL NATIONAL EDUCATION system, there is NO TURNING BACK.

So do think carefully esp when it involves new "unknown" private schools that are set up with profit in mind, if they go bust in a couple of years, the children will be stuck in a limbo .... So, do bear this in mind.

[QuietStorm]

Save time and money as we don't have to send for extra tuition. Ctb, may I know what the damage is? :)

[Rhiga]

Has anyone notice that the private schools are grooming like mushroom these two years especially in subang jaya? There are Ace Adventure, Kingsley and...The advantages that I heard are they complete secondary level in 4years and the medium of instructions is in English. BM and BC are using Singapore syllabus, so will be easier. Save time and money as we don't have to send for extra tuition. My daughter's friend transfer to Kingsley in September and he is place in standard 4 based on his ability whereas my daughter still in standard 2.

I said in a different thread before…

Sometimes, I don’t blame the seller for selling irrelevant and useless products/services.. the willing buyer should take all the blame and risks associated of buying such products/services..

[Mommy]

Finally, 2 papers done...so exhausting :eek:

[elea1]

The thing to note here for all parents (including myself) who are weighing the possible options is that ONCE YOU GET OUT OF THE FORMAL NATIONAL EDUCATION system, there is NO TURNING BACK.

So do think carefully esp when it involves new "unknown" private schools that are set up with profit in mind, if they go bust in a couple of years, the children will be stuck in a limbo .... So, do bear this in mind.

Not really.. i have know people who go all the way to Singapore to study O levels.. did not work out.. come back and enter Form 5 - government school.... But stressed out the poor kid.

[currymee]

Not really.. i have know people who go all the way to Singapore to study O levels.. did not work out.. come back and enter Form 5 - government school.... But stressed out the poor kid.

Good to know :) ... somehow different from what one of the mums told me when she enquired at JPN recently about possible home-study and private schooling. Maybe they were trying to "scare" her from opting out of the school system ;) ;)

[currymee]

Finally, 2 papers done...so exhausting :eek:

Mommy,

Just like you, I also find it tiring ... must think of a better way ... like this before UPSR, sure kena hyper-tension !!! :eek: :eek:

[currymee]

Latest Notices on FB (faster to upload and more storage space) :rolleyes: :p

I have posted the LATEST NOTICES (on school magazine and Carnival 2011) and Std 3 School booklist on the FB - link below:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/SJKC-Lick-Hung-Parents-Support-Group/134804413256412

Speaking of School Books - NOTE : You DON'T HAVE TO BUY ANY OF THE BOOKS in SECTION (A) of the booklist for all standards - they are loan for FREE under Skim Pinjaman Buku Teks (SPBT). :)

[Mommy]

Mommy,

Just like you, I also find it tiring ... must think of a better way ... like this before UPSR, sure kena hyper-tension !!! :eek: :eek:

yes yes, I agree. I think my blood pressure gone up this few weeks. Luckily, havent lost my voice
This year alone, I tried several methods (fr 45 mins per session, offering his interest if he manage to focus & finish in certain time, offering toys/TV/favourite books), yet I dont see that its working.
Recently, I invested in a piano to help him to release tension/stress after loads of homework. After 1 mth, dont see any improvement...
:mad:
Understand, Std 3 syllabus will be very different from Std 1 & 2 especially BM which has Nilai Murni where most pupils fare badly in this section. Suggest to start the exercise this coming holidays. BC & Maths, need to look at the work book for reference.
Tougher time to get my son to finish his hw. :p :p

[currymee]

Yesterday, one of the mums told me that her daughter's class teacher had suffered a broken ankle recently (or something like that) and had an operation - OUCH !!! :( :( And it seems she had also conveyed an apology via the children to the parents to apologise for not being able to come to school to teach them just before the exams.

However, she is continuing to "teach" them by sending in class work and exercises through her own older children and other colleagues and collecting the homework for marking from home.

I really SALUTE this class teacher for her dedication and concerns to her "children" (really lucky class to have a teacher like her :cool: ) - most people will just focus on themselves in situation like this and not bothered with others but not her - KUDOS to her !! :)

Speedy recovery and hope she gets back on her feet soon !! :)

[currymee]

...

Understand, Std 3 syllabus will be very different from Std 1 & 2 especially BM which has Nilai Murni where most pupils fare badly in this section. Suggest to start the exercise this coming holidays. BC & Maths, need to look at the work book for reference.
Tougher time to get my son to finish his hw. :p :p

That is one puzzling statement that I have heard from a number of parents :confused: :confused:

Why so difficult ? :confused: Nilai murni (good values) should be a cinch (kacang), just like Pendidikan Moral (PM) :confused: My son always wallop high marks on the exam portion of PM (45-50) but unfortunately, he is not such a well-behaved boy in class :rolleyes: , talks too much, so always end up with around 35-45 on his class behaviour section.

[elea1]

Mommy,

Just like you, I also find it tiring ... must think of a better way ... like this before UPSR, sure kena hyper-tension !!! :eek: :eek:

Not to worry... My kid is already in Std 5.. believe me.. you are building STUDY STAMINA... your kid is also building STUDY STAMINA... by UPSR.. it will be a daily thing. However.. be careful of BURN OUT!!!
My poor daughter study till 4pm daily.. and on Wed with Cheer leading.. till 6pm... wow.. that is longer than my office hours. Her day starts from 5.45 am. Now that is call BURN OUT!!! and the frustrating thing is.. she will say.. waste my afternoon.. TEACHER NEVER TEACH ALSO!!!! Can complain ka.. if teacher never teach for the extra tuition... since we are paying tuition fees.. any idea???

[currymee]

..... if teacher never teach for the extra tuition... since we are paying tuition fees.. any idea???

Is it COMPULSARY (or is it like one of Lick Hung's "infamous" OPTIONAL (read: compulsary) workbooks in the booklist :p :p :p ) to attend the school extra tuition ? :confused:

If TRULY OPTIONAL, then just opt out instead of wasting time then !!

I plan for my son to opt out of that for BM and ENGLISH lessons ... I teach better !!! :D :D I am already dizzy from the horrendous lousy marking/correction in BM and English at Std 1 and 2 ... I really don't really expect it to get any better .... :(

[rachel sj]

I plan for my son to opt out of that for BM and ENGLISH lessons ... I teach better !!! :D :D (


hehehe currymee, when you do so, can i send my daughter over to your tuition classes ?

[Mommy]

hehehe currymee, when you do so, can i send my daughter over to your tuition classes ?


ya ya ya, how much do you charge? :p

[currymee]

Hahaha ... NO CHARGE - FREE ONLINE TUITION here ... that's why I started the BM and English threads .... :D :D

[m2b]

Sad to say all this extra classes is not optional unless you've got a valid reason of not attending the class. Some of the topics are tied up with the current work books in the class. Enjoy these early years.

[currymee]

Time to abolish the Science & Maths in English periods ?

Now that the dust has settled on the PPSMI issue, perhaps it is TIME for SJKC Lick Hung to consider the removal of "time-wasting" Science and Maths in English periods and REPLACE THEM with PROPER ENGLISH classes ?

If this is the next move then we will see the amount of time spend teaching English in SJKCs TREBLED overnight - better focus on teaching English Language properly than "rojak" with Science and Maths (FACTUAL subjects) !! :)

Note: I have always argued that you can learn FACTUAL subjects in ANY LANGUAGE but more time should be spend to teach English as a language PROPERLY - Mastery of GRAMMAR is the key - forget about Malaysian school syllabus - it is a flop !!

[elea1]

Is it COMPULSARY (or is it like one of Lick Hung's "infamous" OPTIONAL (read: compulsary) workbooks in the booklist :p :p :p ) to attend the school extra tuition ? :confused:

If TRULY OPTIONAL, then just opt out instead of wasting time then !!

I plan for my son to opt out of that for BM and ENGLISH lessons ... I teach better !!! :D :D I am already dizzy from the horrendous lousy marking/correction in BM and English at Std 1 and 2 ... I really don't really expect it to get any better .... :(


COMPULSORY!!!... to attend and to pay of course... There is a signature campaign going on.. to abolish the Saturday tuition for Std 6 next year. Not sure what is the result... .. anybody have any idea on this?

[currymee]

Time to abolish the Science & Maths in English periods ?

Now that the dust has settled on the PPSMI issue, perhaps it is TIME for SJKC Lick Hung to consider the removal of "time-wasting" Science and Maths in English periods and REPLACE THEM with PROPER ENGLISH classes ?

If this is the next move then we will see the amount of time spend teaching English in SJKCs TREBLED overnight - better focus on teaching English Language properly than "rojak" with Science and Maths (FACTUAL subjects) !! :)

Note: I have always argued that you can learn FACTUAL subjects in ANY LANGUAGE but more time should be spend to teach English as a language PROPERLY - Mastery of GRAMMAR is the key - forget about Malaysian school syllabus - it is a flop !!

I got a few PMs from parents asking me why I am not keen for LH to teach Science and Maths in English ?

Simple answer: The teachers in LH don't know how to teach Science and Maths well in English (at least not as good as in Mandarin !!). So why force these teachers to do a half-baked job and the kids end up with half-baked foundation in Science and Maths - that is EVEN WORSE because then you screw up not just English but Science and Maths as well :eek: .

From my experience, it is BEST that English is taught as a PROPER LANGUAGE in SJKCs. I m not talking about English-medium type schools, but talking about teaching English in SJKCs.

I don't share nor put down PAGE fight at all - I am MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PROPER TEACHING OF ENGLISH in Malaysian schools rather than what subjects are taught in English/BM/Mandarin/Swahili/Urdu/Tamil/German/French etc !! My basic point is ONCE YOU MASTERED PROPER ENGLISH, "SEMUA SUBJECTS JALAN" !! ;) - Malaysian Rojak English also interesting mah ... :p :D

NOTE: If the PIBJ AJK is reading, PLEASE CONSIDER SWITCHING ALL the Science & Maths (in English) class periods into PROPER ENGLISH periods - I am confident that you will have the support of many parents with this move.

[jan tomaswaki]

[QUOTE=elea1]COMPULSORY!!!... to attend and to pay of course... There is a signature campaign going on.. to abolish the Saturday tuition for Std 6 next year. Not sure what is the result... .. anybody have any idea on this?[/QUO

I think all SJKC schools use to have Sat. class.My daughter use to attend Sat. class when she was Std 6 in L/H but to me it is a mental torture as she also attend classes from 7.20am to 4.20pm EVERYDAY!not to mention tution after the 4.20pm class. The whole issue is ..if the student fail the UPSR he/she needs to retain to Remove class...also problem.This problem can only be solve if all those chinese guilds/ass./eduacationist appeal to Gomen for them to enter Form 1 striaght away.Then i am sure there will be no extra tution and Sat class.CAN these so call eduacationist or chinese teachers association guilds do that?My 2 sens worth.Bear in mind that your child school hours is longer than your working hours.Don't you think it is a torture to a young kid.,having to carry 2 school bags,15min. lunch.

[wongjie90]

[QUOTE=elea1]COMPULSORY!!!... to attend and to pay of course... There is a signature campaign going on.. to abolish the Saturday tuition for Std 6 next year. Not sure what is the result... .. anybody have any idea on this?[/QUO

I think all SJKC schools use to have Sat. class.My daughter use to attend Sat. class when she was Std 6 in L/H but to me it is a mental torture as she also attend classes from 7.20am to 4.20pm EVERYDAY!not to mention tution after the 4.20pm class. The whole issue is ..if the student fail the UPSR he/she needs to retain to Remove class...also problem.This problem can only be solve if all those chinese guilds/ass./eduacationist appeal to Gomen for them to enter Form 1 striaght away.Then i am sure there will be no extra tution and Sat class.CAN these so call eduacationist or chinese teachers association guilds do that?My 2 sens worth.Bear in mind that your child school hours is longer than your working hours.Don't you think it is a torture to a young kid.,having to carry 2 school bags,15min. lunch.
As what i understand, only those who failed BM need to retain to Remove class. There are also students whom failed their BM but appeal to the SMK can straight enter to form one. Anyway, if you let your child tuition so much and so long hours, it might have a negetive effect that he/she 1. scare of study 2. their brain will get empty and learn nothing due to indigestion. If you want the school to let go for this kind of tuition, why not you yourself take a step further to ignore it ?

[wongjie90]

FYI, my 2 brothers never go for tuition but they are top students in school, not because they are clever but they just very discipline.

[jan tomaswaki]

As what i understand, only those who failed BM need to retain to Remove class. There are also students whom failed their BM but appeal to the SMK can straight enter to form one. Anyway, if you let your child tuition so much and so long hours, it might have a negetive effect that he/she 1. scare of study 2. their brain will get empty and learn nothing due to indigestion. If you want the school to let go for this kind of tuition, why not you yourself take a step further to ignore it ?
If you choose to ignore,your child will feel like a bad guy,so usually the parents relent.The so call eduacationist who said they always fight for their mother tougue,instead their child is always ingris educated.Did you realise those who fail to get in to F1 will eventually drop out especially in rural town,and most probably help their parents sell vege,pork,selling sundries or wash plates.This was also mention by a former MCA pengerusi . :(

[sydneymak]

Wow!lots of thread being post since my last log in. I think students in USJ are quite ok. I came across students from Kepong......their english and bm really bad. those who are in secondary school learn via mandarin in tuition class :confused: imagine learning maths and science via mandarin?

astro tutors is a good choice if you choose not to go for tuition in the tuition centre.

I started teaching my gal BM std 1. need to explain in english. Luckily her kindy teach her suku kata, and she has no problem reading. I also bought her story book in BM (those story which she already read before in English version).

[sydneymak]

i ever thought of home school my children before. but we need to have very valid reason to get the approval from JPN ie health problem. frankly, school is a place for average students. If the child need special attention (autistic, hyperactive, super genius), school is not a good place. to homeschool, the parents need to plan the curricular and co-curricular activities.......and most of all--DISCIPLINE

Only parents will know what is best for their kids........it is not easy to home school. support group is very important. I know a successful home school case. the kids are brilliant. Since the parents set up a tuition centre, their kids are exposed to social activities involving children of their age too. they are active in church activities as well as ochestra/musical acitivities. as long as home school parents carefully plan for academic and social activities, the children benefits a lot more than study in school which is too exam-oriented.

[sydneymak]

Parents who wish to send their children to tuition class, you may want to try Astro Tutor channel 325

http://www.astro.com.my/examtutor/articles/art_4344.html

i think it is quite good. You can even fix a time to let the kids view the programme online.....

[sydneymak]

NOTE: If the PIBJ AJK is reading, PLEASE CONSIDER SWITCHING ALL the Science & Maths (in English) class periods into PROPER ENGLISH periods - I am confident that you will have the support of many parents with this move.

if the school need someone who can teach proper English, can they hire you CM? one can be very good in English, but it would be useless if one doesn't know how to teach. To find a good teacher who really know the content and very well in delivering it, is not easy. I think you possess both.

Instead of teaching in sub-standard English, I would rather it is abolished in primary level. I just want the PPSMI to remain in SMK.

[wongjie90]

Wow!lots of thread being post since my last log in. I think students in USJ are quite ok. I came across students from Kepong......their english and bm really bad. those who are in secondary school learn via mandarin in tuition class :confused: imagine learning maths and science via mandarin?

astro tutors is a good choice if you choose not to go for tuition in the tuition centre.

I started teaching my gal BM std 1. need to explain in english. Luckily her kindy teach her suku kata, and she has no problem reading. I also bought her story book in BM (those story which she already read before in English version).
I dont see anything wrong with teaching Maths and Science in Mandarin as far as the students can fully understand the content and get a good result. I, my brother and our classmates are learned in this way in our secondary school and when we study form 6 in an english medium school, we still can compete and beat them up in STPM. One thing for sure is that they can speak a better english than us.

[akiyoshi]

I dont see anything wrong with teaching Maths and Science in Mandarin as far as the students can fully understand the content and get a good result. I, my brother and our classmates are learned in this way in our secondary school and when we study form 6 in an english medium school, we still can compete and beat them up in STPM. One thing for sure is that they can speak a better english than us.

Then you are also OK if the children are taught in BM, as long as they can understand the content and get good results ? That's also the reason given by the govt to flip the policy.

I sympathised with those who are in the middle of this policy and had to switch back to BM .. those in Form 4 next year. And then English again after Form 5.
We can't compare with our times. Now, Internet is revolutionizing learning.
Example, when my kid asked a question on Maths in English terminology, we just google and wham, loads of knowledge. The learning accelerates...and a search often leads to new terms, new knowledge, new concept.

I heard a comment from a secondary school teacher who said that actually the standard of English improved with this policy !! Maybe just the urban schools.

[currymee]

My 2 cents and views on English in Malaysian schools

Personally, I have seen, researched and observed the way ENGLISH is taught in Malaysian schools at all levels (based on discussions with teachers and looking at the current syllabuses and materials) - it is ATROCIOUS bordering on the LUDICROUS :eek: :mad: - that is the ROOT CAUSE of the declining standard and quality - everything else just happened to be the results/effects of this root problem !!

To overhaul the teaching of English in Malaysia - first, you need to OVERHAUL the Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia leadership - to remove the bias attitude and stupidity in the Ministry, to completely revamp the syllabus by setting a minimum standard and push all children (rural/urban) towards that standard INSTEAD of "dumbing down" the standard so that the kids can make it - stupid logic in lowering the bar instead of pushing up the quality of the kids :eek: :mad:

So what if 90% of Malaysian students FAIL English if the standard is set at a certain minimum level - it just means the kids are not good enough thus should WORK HARDER to improve !!! Not LOWER the standard, so that 90% pass and we end up with the CURRENT MESS of kids getting strings of As in English but cannot cobble two correct sentences together !! (I apply the same argument and logic when my son tried some of LH past papers and found that he was not good enough - conclusion, BUCK UP !!) :rolleyes:

That is what I am doing with my son, I am setting the English standard for him based on Singaporean English Syllabus and exam papers (the closest to the "old" Malaysian 1970s pre-BM/Nationalisation dumb-down English policy - and not because I think greatly of Singaporean education system - just happens that they maintained what was/is good that the British left us in the 1950-70s)

Let's face the fact that the British left colonial Malaysia and Singapore a system of teaching and learning English (for non-native speakers) to the highest possible standard so that we can "serve" them best - we may not like the legacy or their reasons for doing so BUT we are IDIOTS if for pride and ego, we discarded a sure-fire winning education formula and replaced it with something inferior. which is what the Malaysian Government had done !! BODOH !! :mad:

I don't blame the teachers as they are forced to teach what the Kementerian ORDERED them to do so ... :mad:

PS: I doubt IF the current Malaysian Government will ever revert to the "old" (ageless), tried-and-tested methods/syllabus - that will be an ADMISSION of failure which is too much for the pride and ego of BN/UMNO Government - so as parents, I advocate that we try to know, understand what is BEST and do our BEST for the kids ... ;)

I have done my "homework" and I am sharing with you what I have found out and concluded - it is STRICTLY my opinion and point of views. I cannot teach your kids but I can share information and knowledge as to how to best go about it .... the teaching has to be done by yourself :)

[currymee]

My 2 cents and views on English in Malaysian schools

Personally, I have seen, researched and observed the way ENGLISH is taught in Malaysian schools at all levels (based on discussions with teachers and looking at the current syllabuses and materials) - it is ATROCIOUS bordering on the LUDICROUS :eek: :mad: - that is the ROOT CAUSE of the declining standard and quality - everything else just happened to be the results/effects of this root problem !!

....

I have done my "homework" and I am sharing with you what I have found out and concluded - it is STRICTLY my opinion and point of views. I cannot teach your kids but I can share information and knowledge as to how to best go about it .... the teaching has to be done by yourself :)

The SILVER LINING in the dark clouds ;) - at least, I know what is happening and that I can do something about it !!! :)

[sydneymak]

.

I heard a comment from a secondary school teacher who said that actually the standard of English improved with this policy !! Maybe just the urban schools.

yup, feedback from my friends who teach in secondary school. everyone dares to start communicating in English.

it is nothing wrong to learn secondary level maths n science in mandarin in tuition centre. but at the disadvantage of the students. they are so dependent to the translation. maybe wongjie and siblings are belongs to a small group of good and discipline one. I am just talking about the average students.

[fongkimseng]

My 2 cents and views on English in Malaysian schools

Personally, I have seen, researched and observed the way ENGLISH is taught in Malaysian schools at all levels (based on discussions with teachers and looking at the current syllabuses and materials) - it is ATROCIOUS bordering on the LUDICROUS :eek: :mad: - that is the ROOT CAUSE of the declining standard and quality - everything else just happened to be the results/effects of this root problem !!

To overhaul the teaching of English in Malaysia - first, you need to OVERHAUL the Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia leadership - to remove the bias attitude and stupidity in the Ministry, to completely revamp the syllabus by setting a minimum standard and push all children (rural/urban) towards that standard INSTEAD of "dumbing down" the standard so that the kids can make it - stupid logic in lowering the bar instead of pushing up the quality of the kids :eek: :mad:

So what if 90% of Malaysian students FAIL English if the standard is set at a certain minimum level - it just means the kids are not good enough thus should WORK HARDER to improve !!! Not LOWER the standard, so that 90% pass and we end up with the CURRENT MESS of kids getting strings of As in English but cannot cobble two correct sentences together !! (I apply the same argument and logic when my son tried some of LH past papers and found that he was not good enough - conclusion, BUCK UP !!) :rolleyes:

That is what I am doing with my son, I am setting the English standard for him based on Singaporean English Syllabus and exam papers (the closest to the "old" Malaysian 1970s pre-BM/Nationalisation dumb-down English policy - and not because I think greatly of Singaporean education system - just happens that they maintained what was/is good that the British left us in the 1950-70s)

Let's face the fact that the British left colonial Malaysia and Singapore a system of teaching and learning English (for non-native speakers) to the highest possible standard so that we can "serve" them best - we may not like the legacy or their reasons for doing so BUT we are IDIOTS if for pride and ego, we discarded a sure-fire winning education formula and replaced it with something inferior. which is what the Malaysian Government had done !! BODOH !! :mad:

I don't blame the teachers as they are forced to teach what the Kementerian ORDERED them to do so ... :mad:

PS: I doubt IF the current Malaysian Government will ever revert to the "old" (ageless), tried-and-tested methods/syllabus - that will be an ADMISSION of failure which is too much for the pride and ego of BN/UMNO Government - so as parents, I advocate that we try to know, understand what is BEST and do our BEST for the kids ... ;)

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Interesting conclusion and deduction, although you miss another key point that contributed greatly to the ROOT CAUSE - the introduction and implementation of NEP into the education system causing a lot of non-Bumiputras to stop taking up teaching as a profession. Since the majority of English teachers are non-Malays, by the time, the older generation retired in the 1980s - the loss in good teachers were too great for the system to cope .... so, we ended up having a lot of not-well versed stop-gap English teachers, so now we reap what we sow .... :( :(

[sydneymak]

heard some school has received circular to start teaching Maths and Science in Bahasa Melayu for Form 1 and FORM 4!!!!! i thought form 4 will remain using english?

[currymee]

Interesting conclusion and deduction, although you miss another key point that contributed greatly to the ROOT CAUSE - the introduction and implementation of NEP into the education system causing a lot of non-Bumiputras to stop taking up teaching as a profession. Since the majority of English teachers are non-Malays, by the time, the older generation retired in the 1980s - the loss in good teachers were too great for the system to cope .... so, we ended up having a lot of not-well versed stop-gap English teachers, so now we reap what we sow .... :( :(

Noted but I try to keep "politics" out of it IF I can avoid it. For me, if a person really so desires, he/she can change the processes and outcomes. In Malaysia's case, the KEY CHANGE has to be at the MoE, if it is to affect a nationwide English improvement.

However, since I cannot change the MoE alone BUT I can change the syllabus, lessons and materials that my children study and learn, hence I am doing what I can (at micro-level) while trying to create awarness for the ROOT CAUSE (macro-level). :)

[currymee]

heard some school has received circular to start teaching Maths and Science in Bahasa Melayu for Form 1 and FORM 4!!!!! i thought form 4 will remain using english?

Likewise, I expect all SJKCs to go 100% Mandarin in Science and Maths next year, even though my son's current batch (Std 2) is supposed to be the last in English.

To be honest, I have been preparing for this day since the 2010 PIBG when I heard a few parents discussing with the HM and PIBG AJK on PPSMI and the answer given by HM was that the school will focus and emphasis more on Science and Maths in Mandarin. As a result from that meeting, I stopped teaching my son Science and Maths in English (after the first 6 months) and focus 100% in Mandarin since Std 1.

[currymee]

NOT GOING TO CARNIVAL AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK !! :mad:

My son's class teacher told the class yesterday that ALL the children MUST BUY (compulsary) the ticket/coupon :mad: :mad: . Well, I just told my son if teacher said like that then please tell your teacher that your daddy says that you are NOT GOING and the daddy ask the teacher to give back RM50-00 for tickets and RM100-00 donation (I refuse to donate after this "threat") :mad: !!!

If my understanding is CORRECT, it is supposed to be CHARITABLE and OPTIONAL !! (my foot !!) :mad:

DON'T EVER BULLY THE KIDS !! :mad:

[akiyoshi]

NOT GOING TO CARNIVAL AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK !! :mad:

My son's class teacher told the class yesterday that ALL the children MUST BUY (compulsary) the ticket/coupon :mad: :mad: . Well, I just told my son if teacher said like that then please tell your teacher that your daddy says that you are NOT GOING and the daddy ask the teacher to give back RM50-00 for tickets and RM100-00 donation (I refuse to donate after this "threat") :mad: !!!

If my understanding is CORRECT, it is supposed to be CHARITABLE and OPTIONAL !! (my foot !!) :mad:

DON'T EVER BULLY THE KIDS !! :mad:

Not a surprise at all. Always threatening the kids, who would felt compelled to make sure the parents contribute. Hiya, don't get so stressed up lah. One strip RM10. Unless you want your kid to tell the teacher in her face ( thought the whole class loves her to bits ) all that you said ! :confused:

[currymee]

Not a surprise at all. Always threatening the kids, who would felt compelled to make sure the parents contribute. Hiya, don't get so stressed up lah. One strip RM10. Unless you want your kid to tell the teacher in her face ( thought the whole class loves her to bits ) all that you said ! :confused:

I know the amount is small but the school still should not "adopt" such an approach (via the teachers) - what I don't like and disagree is that the school management think it is OK to resort to emotional "EXTORTION".

Yes, the kids love her to bits and I do think highly of her too until now ... :mad: I wrote her a note and ask my son to pass it to the class teacher.

[jan tomaswaki]

Not a surprise at all. Always threatening the kids, who would felt compelled to make sure the parents contribute. Hiya, don't get so stressed up lah. One strip RM10. Unless you want your kid to tell the teacher in her face ( thought the whole class loves her to bits ) all that you said ! :confused:
From my experience,the teachers were also pressure by PIBG/school to sell the tickets.Normally they don't threatening the kids,BUT ....

[currymee]

From my experience,the teachers were also pressure by PIBG/school to sell the tickets.Normally they don't threatening the kids,BUT ....

She did not threaten the kids as in physical harm but using words like it is COMPULSARY and IMPORTANT that you buy IF YOU LOVE THE SCHOOL etc ... emotional "blackmail" ... come on, tell it to the parents, don't mess around with the kids like this !!! :mad:

[currymee]

I got a few PMs telling me that it has been the case with SJKCs since time is immemorial, so just let it be .... move on ... ok, I will do so after saying the following: :p

Well, we have always have a BN/UMNO/MCA Federal Govt ... that doesn't make it right or everything is well, does it ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe I am a tad "sensitive" during this exam period :o :p but seriously, I still don't think just because it has always been like that (emotional "extortion" on the kids) means it is OK to continue being like that ...

Tell the parents OPENLY and FRANKLY that you need funds, be open and transparent, we will HELP ...

But if you go around, being shifty, sneaky, non-transparent, dodgy and secretive about funding, resorting to such "bully tactics" on the kids etc ... not only I am reluctant to help and donate, I may even call in the police and MACC to "clean up" the school and PIBG for possible breach-of-trust (CBT) !! :mad:

[akiyoshi]

I know the amount is small but the school still should not "adopt" such an approach (via the teachers) - what I don't like and disagree is that the school management think it is OK to resort to emotional "EXTORTION".

Yes, the kids love her to bits and I do think highly of her too until now ... :mad: I wrote her a note and ask my son to pass it to the class teacher.

I totally agree with you. And that's the first thing I tell my kid, about being voluntary, optional, not mandatory/compulsory. And yes, we should make our displeasure heard. But the kid will defend the teacher's words like they were cast in concrete !

I do this too .. write a note and ask my kid to hand to teacher. Sometimes, it was handed, sometimes missing in action .. forgot-lah, excuses lots so I know I am putting him in a "difficult position".

And things still did not change. To raise in PIBG once a year meeting ???

[currymee]

I totally agree with you. And that's the first thing I tell my kid, about being voluntary, optional, not mandatory/compulsory. And yes, we should make our displeasure heard. But the kid will defend the teacher's words like they were cast in concrete !

I do this too .. write a note and ask my kid to hand to teacher. Sometimes, it was handed, sometimes missing in action .. forgot-lah, excuses lots so I know I am putting him in a "difficult position".

And things still did not change. To raise in PIBG once a year meeting ???

Yes, I understand what you are saying ... which is why I am not going to push my son later on whether he has handed it over to the teacher or not, but he knows I am not pleased and normally he will discuss it with his friends, soon the message will get around, plenty of "snitches" in his class :rolleyes: .

Furthermore, by highlighting it HERE in the public domain, I know that the school management and PIBG AJK do read, so they also know the grouses unless their skins are too-thick !! :eek:

The difference between NOW and IN THE PAST is that we have this forum to share and highlight matters and issues which the school has taken for granted that they can push and bully kids and parents around for fear of victimsation/reprisals.

Well, it is NOW IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN and searchable by Google/Bing/Yahoo and what have you ... by 7 BILLION PEOPLE on Earth, let them go and cover-up and hide !! :p :p (unless KWChang pulls the plug on us and delete the whole thread, then c'est la vie :rolleyes: )

SOON THEY WILL CHANGE .... or BE CHANGED !! :)

[jan tomaswaki]

passing by just now there is a Tiger Beer banner telling a event on the 12 Nov (sat) what is it? another fund raising?

[fRaNkY]

Heard from daughter, the instruction came from the headmaster to the teachers, must at least sell 500 coupons each. Some teachers without class teruk lar!

How can i buy Rm50 then donate(buy) things for them to sell summore?

Concert also must pay and buy tickets!

[currymee]

Heard from daughter, the instruction came from the headmaster to the teachers, must at least sell 500 coupons each. Some teachers without class teruk lar!

How can i buy Rm50 then donate(buy) things for them to sell summore?

Concert also must pay and buy tickets!

NO WONDER :mad: - that's why I was so surprised and shocked at the class teacher's behaviour, she was never like that for the 2 years that I know her - SO NOW WE KNOW WHO IS TO BE BLAMED AND CULPRIT !!!! :mad: :mad:

[sydneymak]

do u think teachers will ill-treat the child whose parents refuse to buy/donate?

[wongjie90]

NO WONDER :mad: - that's why I was so surprised and shocked at the class teacher's behaviour, she was never like that for the 2 years that I know her - SO NOW WE KNOW WHO IS TO BE BLAMED AND CULPRIT !!!! :mad: :mad:
What i heard from a teacher is that she will try not to transfer to those school without school hall, now you know why

[fRaNkY]

Heard from daughter, the instruction came from the headmaster to the teachers, must at least sell 500 coupons each. Some teachers without class teruk lar!

How can i buy Rm50 then donate(buy) things for them to sell summore?

Concert also must pay and buy tickets!

correction. not 500 coupons but rm500, now some added rm1000 to sell. stress for teachers and kids!

[fRaNkY]

do u think teachers will ill-treat the child whose parents refuse to buy/donate?

No! off course not. soon all will be forgotten.

[currymee]

do u think teachers will ill-treat the child whose parents refuse to buy/donate?

Like what fRaNkY said, no, the teachers will not physically ill-treated the kids but I know that some of the "more bitchy" ones do pass some sarcastic remarks about stingy parents :mad: Well, better to be stingy than STUPID .... giving to people who has no sense of accountability and not-transparent !!

Personally, I don't blame the class teacahers per say but more on the school HM and PIBG, what on Earth does PIBG need such a BIG SURPRLUS of more than RM300K ! For what ? Play the KLSE share market ? :confused: :confused:

As for the perpetual non-existent and NO INFO and NO UPDATES - "BUILDING" fund .... I "promise" not to say anything like what Thumper (the rabbit in the BAMBI cartoon) said, " If you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all .... " :mad:

[currymee]

SOME HAPPY CHEERFUL NEWS !!! :D :D

TODAY IS THE LAST DAY OF 2011 EXAMS !!! :D :D :D

Just the thought alone already makes me smile and grin like a Cheshire cat !! ;) :D

No need to think about exams UNTIL MARCH 2012 (120+ blissful days ) :p

[Mommy]

SOME HAPPY CHEERFUL NEWS !!! :D :D

TODAY IS THE LAST DAY OF 2011 EXAMS !!! :D :D :D

Just the thought alone already makes me smile and grin like a Cheshire cat !! ;) :D

No need to think about exams UNTIL MARCH 2012 (120+ blissful days ) :p


YES!!! I feel that I am more excited than my son realizing today is the last day of his Std 2 exam...I can relax for few months before it comes again...really really exhausted :eek: :eek:

[sydneymak]

a good article to share.
http://www.wytxl.com/view.asp?unid=372

The author shared how she helped her child to do homework and the rational behind it. Her girl started to feel agitated in completing her homework, especially teacher want the students to write the chinese words not one time or 2 time, but 2 lines, 3 lines or 5 lines. The author adviced her girl to write the word that she had already known once, whereas write the new word 3 times (till she learn how to write without referring). the author will help the gal to finish the remaining lines of writing..........she just want her gal to learn happily, not burden by those unnecessary homework that eventually bored the child. then her child will have more time to do other things.........

there are lots more interesting points to take from the article. enjoy reading

[Totoro2010]

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TODAY IS THE LAST DAY OF 2011 EXAMS !!! :D :D :D


Hurray!!! Finally, the exam is over :D :D

I think the most happiest ppl is the Dad or Mum than the son/dotter :rolleyes: :p :p

[currymee]

Hurray!!! Finally, the exam is over :D :D

I think the most happiest ppl is the Dad or Mum than the son/dotter :rolleyes: :p :p

YOU SAID IT, MAN !!!!! :D :D :D :D

[Mommy]

YOU SAID IT, MAN !!!!! :D :D :D :D

YES!!!! :D :D

[currymee]

1-Week Deepavali School Holiday Coming Up !!

Holiday from 24th - 28th October 2011

I was reminded of this special festive break by a parent yesterday who asked me to confirm whether is it true that we have a 1-week holiday (he plans to go on a family holiday), well, I checked back the "archives" and YES, WE HAVE !!!! :D :D :D

It was so long (January notice) until I have also forgotten :o - hope the school will sent out a notice/reminder to the other non-online parents or inform the kids who will DEFINITELY REMEMBER :p !!

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/ClassReplacement2011.jpg

[Mommy]

1-Week Deepavali School Holiday Coming Up !!

Holiday from 24th - 28th October 2011

I was reminded of this special festive break by a parent yesterday who asked me to confirm whether is it true that we have a 1-week holiday (he plans to go on a family holiday), well, I checked back the "archives" and YES, WE HAVE !!!! :D :D :D

It was so long (January notice) until I have also forgotten :o - hope the school will sent out a notice/reminder to the other non-online parents or inform the kids who will DEFINITELY REMEMBER :p !!

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/ClassReplacement2011.jpg

Yes, my son received a notice last week, its together with the magazine notice. But i think he mis place the carnival notice.

[currymee]

Yes, my son received a notice last week, its together with the magazine notice. But i think he mis place the carnival notice.

This time around, I asked my son and he said there was a notice about something but he lost it !! sheeeesshhhh :( ... now, he tells me after I asked him !! :p

I told him what the notice was about and that if I did not know, he WILL BE GOING TO SCHOOL WHILE EVERYONE IS ON HOLIDAY ... he kept quiet !! :rolleyes: :D

[sydneymak]

This time around, I asked my son and he said there was a notice about something but he lost it !! sheeeesshhhh :( ... now, he tells me after I asked him !! :p

I told him what the notice was about and that if I did not know, he WILL BE GOING TO SCHOOL WHILE EVERYONE IS ON HOLIDAY ... he kept quiet !! :rolleyes: :D

:D u r really a mischievous parent

[tupai]

Can I ask the idiotic parents of LH school to please NOT drive against the traffic flow in a 1-way street, JALAN SEHALA, behind the speedmart 99, infront of the car workshops?

If caught at my wrong mood or tipsy time, I WILL CRASH MY 4x4 onto you! tell me again, Which part of 1way street u dont understand? Stupid! :mad:

if there is a LH teacher here reading this post...pls announce to the students during the school assembly that such stupid driving manner by their parents will 1 day KILL 'em of worst, paralyse a few in those aunty car!

Niceties many a time, doesnt work with this bunch of ignoramus, selfish kopi-o driver! PLUS setting bad example to their young passengers too!

Thank you!

Yang Amat Benggang ToonIstimewaUtama xlatotupai

[Rhiga]

Well bro, you are wasting your eye ball energy and finger strength writing in usj.com.my... :D

Those auntie and ah pak won’t read internet.. and if they really read, they will browse magnum.com, sporstoto.com, dan lain lain number.com...

You may need to seriously consider your next option – drive your 4x4 or 8x8 or whatever x wheelers to crush those traffic offenders…

Cheers

[currymee]

How was the LH Carnival today ?

We did not go this year - boycotted the event.

(My son did not give the teacher the note as he said he did not want to get in trouble with her or the HM - but he said he understands that we should not accept or succumb to emotional blackmail/extortion or bullying tactics even from school HM/teachers - he had sold the tickets to his friends - in return, I took him to the Big Bad Wolf Book Sale this morning and he bought RM50.00 worth of books)

So, for those parents that went, any report/photos to share ? ;)

[tupai]

Well bro, you are wasting your eye ball energy and finger strength writing in usj.com.my... :D

Those auntie and ah pak won’t read internet.. and if they really read, they will browse magnum.com, sporstoto.com, dan lain lain number.com...

You may need to seriously consider your next option – drive your 4x4 or 8x8 or whatever x wheelers to crush those traffic offenders…

Cheers

CRUSHiNG the driver is the worries. They should not be on the road inthe 1st place!

Its the innocent children who might get crushed to death OR worst! Not dead BUT paralysed for life! :eek: :eek:

LHUNG teachers here...take note please!

[fongkimseng]

Near and around Lick Hung, you will see nearly ALL the common Malaysian traffic offences from haphazard parking, double-triple parking, yellow line parking, driving in and out with signalling, going against one-way street (and have the gall to horn the person on the right-way to back-up !!! :eek: ) ... SEMUA ADA ... I think if any traffic policeman is to be stationed there, he will either finish his summon book in a day :p or made himself a millionaire in "duit-kopi" within a month :rolleyes: ... after all, most of the offenders drive BIG cars, so can afford to pay ...

[fongkimseng]

How was the LH Carnival today ?

We did not go this year - boycotted the event.

(My son did not give the teacher the note as he said he did not want to get in trouble with her or the HM - but he said he understands that we should not accept or succumb to emotional blackmail/extortion or bullying tactics even from school HM/teachers - he had sold the tickets to his friends - in return, I took him to the Big Bad Wolf Book Sale this morning and he bought RM50.00 worth of books)

So, for those parents that went, any report/photos to share ? ;)

No photos to share but somehow seems less "cheerful" compared to last year ... might be due to the "economic downturn" ;) or maybe, this is my second time round with my grandchildren ...

However, plenty of ANGRY BIRDS everywhere !! :rolleyes: Angry bird this, angry bird that .... and very popular also, long queues ... my grandchildren love them but cost me a bit of my measly pension money - however, the eldest went home and told his mum everything (my daughter-in-law) who scolded them for "taking advantage" of grandpa and compensated me ... :)

[currymee]

No photos to share but somehow seems less "cheerful" compared to last year ... might be due to the "economic downturn" ;) or maybe, this is my second time round with my grandchildren ...

However, plenty of ANGRY BIRDS everywhere !! :rolleyes: Angry bird this, angry bird that .... and very popular also, long queues ... my grandchildren love them but cost me a bit of my measly pension money - however, the eldest went home and told his mum everything (my daughter-in-law) who scolded them for "taking advantage" of grandpa and compensated me ... :)

Cikgu Fong,

Thank you for the updates and news on the Carnival :) :) :)

[tupai]

CRUSHiNG the driver is the worries. They should not be on the road inthe 1st place!

Its the innocent children who might get crushed to death OR worst! Not dead BUT paralysed for life! :eek: :eek:

LHUNG teachers here...take note please!


OOPS! factual error! It should read

...CRUSHiNG the driver is LEAST of the worries...

Yang Amat Bersalah TIU xlatotupai :cool:

[currymee]

Well, usually this is the week when exam results are out.

Saw the morning session children comparing and talking about their results while I was having my currymee at Choy Kee ... scary to think that one boy mentioned that the best score in his class was only 75% for dunno what subject (my Mandarin sucks ... ) and he got 69 % and happy like hell - walau !!! :eek:

Is it that TOUGH in the Std 3-6 ? :confused: :confused:

[currymee]

Teaching Science and Maths in English (a Mummy's way) :)

I love the ability of parents to oercome the STUPIDITY of politicians !! ;)

Yesterday evening, a few of us parents gathered at Melur for our chit-chat and discussions (part of the home-study meeting).

Then one bright spark of a mum told the group that while in school, she made sure her kids learnt and mastered Science and Maths in Mandarin as per LH's "requirement". However during the long school holidays (whole of Nov and Dec - 2 months), she will get them to repeat the whole Science and Maths syllabus in ENGLISH - INGENIOUS !!! :) :) :)

She said since they alreay know the material from Jan to Oct, now they just have to repeat again in English in Nov and Dec - 2 beneficial effects - they revise Science and Maths and secondly, they also bolster their understanding of these subjects in English.

Well, something for me to try this holiday !!! :p

[aerobax]

Teaching Science and Maths in English (a Mummy's way) :)

I love the ability of parents to oercome the STUPIDITY of politicians !! ;)

Yesterday evening, a few of us parents gathered at Melur for our chit-chat and discussions (part of the home-study meeting).

Then one bright spark of a mum told the group that while in school, she made sure her kids learnt and mastered Science and Maths in Mandarin as per LH's "requirement". However during the long school holidays (whole of Nov and Dec - 2 months), she will get them to repeat the whole Science and Maths syllabus in ENGLISH - INGENIOUS !!! :) :) :)

She said since they alreay know the material from Jan to Oct, now they just have to repeat again in English in Nov and Dec - 2 beneficial effects - they revise Science and Maths and secondly, they also bolster their understanding of these subjects in English.

Well, something for me to try this holiday !!! :p

CM,

BRILLIANT IDEA indeed - thanks for sharing again ! :)

Yes, this method will definitely help the kids !

BTW, thank you for all your study ideas/tips - my son did very well in the exams - thanks again :D :D :D

[currymee]

CM,

BRILLIANT IDEA indeed - thanks for sharing again ! :)

Yes, this method will definitely help the kids !

BTW, thank you for all your study ideas/tips - my son did very well in the exams - thanks again :D :D :D

No problem - you are welcome :)

CONGRATULATIONS to your son for doing well in the exams - give him the credit for the hard work and motivation to do well.

I only give ideas/tips ... if he doesn't work or study hard still no use ... so the boy deserves a BIG HUG from you for doing well !! :D

Anyway, I am going to drop into the bookshop later to check out some Science and Maths workbooks in English ;)

[Mommy]

No problem - you are welcome :)

CONGRATULATIONS to your son for doing well in the exams - give him the credit for the hard work and motivation to do well.

I only give ideas/tips ... if he doesn't work or study hard still no use ... so the boy deserves a BIG HUG from you for doing well !! :D

Anyway, I am going to drop into the bookshop later to check out some Science and Maths workbooks in English ;)

Sounds good. Keep it up, you found a way for your son.
Unfortunately, mine didnt do that well this term. From above 90% drop to 85%. Quite disappointed. Looks like this mommy have to work double hard this holidays...

[currymee]

Sounds good. Keep it up, you found a way for your son.
Unfortunately, mine didnt do that well this term. From above 90% drop to 85%. Quite disappointed. Looks like this mommy have to work double hard this holidays...

Mommy,

Find out exactly where he is weak - from what I know, it is usually a specific area of a subject rather than the whole subject. Then you just focus on remedying that particular area.

For example, during Std 1, I found that my son's English was poor in rearranging the words to make sentences - so I focus on solving that weakness, now it has become his strength.

If it is Maths, check and see whether it is due to carelessness or understanding - if carelessness, means more practice before exams, if understanding esp the back portion on applications, then you have to work through the logics and rationale ...

I know that some parents are busy at work so cannot pay special attention and focus to their kid's studies and have to rely on tuition classes. However, if time permits, do make some effort to look into what I mentioned above in tackling specific areas, it is usually the cause of why a child does not do so well in a particular subject.

[Mommy]

Mommy,

Find out exactly where he is weak - from what I know, it is usually a specific area of a subject rather than the whole subject. Then you just focus on remedying that particular area.

For example, during Std 1, I found that my son's English was poor in rearranging the words to make sentences - so I focus on solving that weakness, now it has become his strength.

If it is Maths, check and see whether it is due to carelessness or understanding - if carelessness, means more practice before exams, if understanding esp the back portion on applications, then you have to work through the logics and rationale ...

I know that some parents are busy at work so cannot pay special attention and focus to their kid's studies and have to rely on tuition classes. However, if time permits, do make some effort to look into what I mentioned above in tackling specific areas, it is usually the cause of why a child does not do so well in a particular subject.

Thanks CM, I have not gotten full results. Only BM which dunno why the bina ayat, he did so badly. He had practiced at least 3 times from his exercise, yet he made mistakes in it. Not only careless mistake but real language sentence structure mistake that worries me. He never make those mistake in his homework and revision. He did it all correct during his revision with me. I'm really curious what happen in this exam.
:confused:

[currymee]

Thanks CM, I have not gotten full results. Only BM which dunno why the bina ayat, he did so badly. He had practiced at least 3 times from his exercise, yet he made mistakes in it. Not only careless mistake but real language sentence structure mistake that worries me. He never make those mistake in his homework and revision. He did it all correct during his revision with me. I'm really curious what happen in this exam.
:confused:

Maybe he panicked or got too nervous if he found the earlier sections to be tough ... that happens a lot. Usually I would advised my son, if he cannot remember what he practise, then just make SIMPLE, SHORT and CORRECT sentences rather than trying to guess or remember what he has done earlier ...

[Totoro2010]

Sounds good. Keep it up, you found a way for your son.
Unfortunately, mine didnt do that well this term. From above 90% drop to 85%. Quite disappointed. Looks like this mommy have to work double hard this holidays...
Wow...you put so high expectation for your kid ah?

85% is considered very good for me, I m only hoping 80% & above :)

[Mommy]

Wow...you put so high expectation for your kid ah?

85% is considered very good for me, I m only hope 80% & above :)

Perhaps but I am using his Std 1 and the last 3 terms as benchmark. Also, based on his normal exercise to gage his marks.
CM maybe right, I notice he did quite well in the front parts of the paper. I was too engross with the marks that I havent got a chance to talk to him why he did so badly in his bina ayat. I kept nagging him that due to his not focusing in class & homework that he did so badly in his exams.
Yeah, I try to talk to him tonight going through part by part to understand his weakness.
Thanks so much. This forum really helps over zealous mommy like me.

[kwchang]

... due to his not focusing in class & homework that he did so badly in his exams...
Both my kids went thru LH and I guess I can say I know how they cope with their school work and studies. Firstly, we have to acknowledge the point that under the overloaded student population and the need to meet the curriculum deadlines, we can expect that the students' understanding is highly compromised.

Some of the parents may disagree but my gut feeling is that most schools aim for excellence in exam results. In that process, the sure-fire way is for rote learning. Pure memory and regurgitation. If the kid is asked a question in a different way, they will very likely be lost and thus be unable to answer the question correctly although it seems that they do well in their homework.

Sometimes it is not the fault of the school teacher. The students will discover on their own that if they memorised, they find it easier to cope. So they actually did not LEARN but just did reproduction from memory. This is why a lot of kids get a shock when they are shifted to Singapore or to International schools. Suddenly, in the University they find that they need to think rather than memorise.

Understand yr kid. Don't nag them or scold them if they did badly. They are already highly stressed for time and they are doing what they think is the best for the exams. Find out if they are doing it the wrong way and help them move (slowly) to the more effective way.

[jan tomaswaki]

Understand yr kid. Don't nag them or scold them if they did badly. They are already highly stressed for time and they are doing what they think is the best for the exams. Find out if they are doing it the wrong way and help them move (slowly) to the more effective way.

Yes i agree with KWChang.It seems nowadays SRJK(C) school hours are more than office hours.you can see your child stress out after 4.10pm class :(

[Mommy]

Yes i agree with KWChang.It seems nowadays SRJK(C) school hours are more than office hours.you can see your child stress out after 4.10pm class :(

Understand...thanks so much for all your advices. :)

[currymee]

I would say each individual parents will know BEST their own children, set the appropriate expectations and also know the limits as each child is brought up and raised differently.

Some children respond to CARROTS and some to STICKS ... of course, all parents will be happier if it is the CARROTS rather than the STICKS.

Furthermore, as parents, we have to take note of their responses to both carrots and sticks, some response positively and some negatively. However, the bottom line is that each and every parent will know what and how it is best to motivate and drive their own children - there is NO ONE SIZE THAT FITS ALL or ONE FORMULA that works for all.

I apply both carrots and sticks to my children based on a pre-agreed normal distribution curve - bottom 10 of class - kena sticks, top 10 of class, carrots galore, anywhere in between, case-by-case basis .... it works with my children but not necessary with others, so do bear in mind what works and doesn't for your child .... every child is A UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL, despite Lick Hung's attempt to "robotise" them :p :p :p :D