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aerobax
11-05-2011, 11:17 AM
Suggestion for PIBG to introduce GRAMMAR/TATBAHASA classes from Std 1 onwards

I got a mother asking me (via email) - "If the school is aware that the KBSR English and BM syllabuses are flawed, why don't they change or use a better system independently ? " :confused:

.....

So, where does this leave us ? Well, if the PIBG AJK IS LISTENING (reading) - they will do well to consider introducing "GOOD OLD FASHION" GRAMMAR and TATABAHASA classes from Std 1 onwards (just like the Han Yu Pinyin) instead of Std 4-6 (just for UPSR exams) - that is a suggestion - rather than parents going out to seek private tuition etc .... school can teach extra and PIBG can take the lead and do something good for all !! :)

KEY POINT: Don't wait until the preparation for UPSR exams before LH starts to get serious about English/BM grammar structure - start from Std 1 onwards - the earlier the better !! :) By Std 5-6, in most cases, it will be too late as the "bad" habits and lack of confidence have already set in as a result of doing poorly in Std 1-3.

currymee,

While the idea is good, I think most parents (esp at Std 1) may not agree since the additional classes will be conducted over the weekends and the new parents may not want their children to study 6 days a week !! :eek:

Furthermore, it is a well-known fact that a lot of LH students are taking outside tuition for BM and English, and in most cases, taught by the school teachers themselves. I doubt the school teachers will be keen to see their "extra side income" from private tuitions diminished.

If you have a look at the number of such centres surrounding LH, i.e. Enopi, Kumon, Cambridge Tutors etc etc ... there are already a lot of support system for BM and English outside the school.

Hence, I doubt IF the parents will support or want such extra classes.

Personally, I AGREE with you that EXTRA CLASSES esp in English will be most helpful given that, the children are now studying the least hours per week for English compared to Chinese and BM. To be frankly honest, English is the MOST IMPORTANT of the 3 languages - so it is reflective of our "messed-up" priorities in education. :(

Rhiga
11-05-2011, 12:59 PM
Hey, I am electronically homeless on weekend... I don't search internet or send/reply mail... just to have the complete weekend for ourselves.

Title : English mock examination paper, Standard One.

Price : SGD5.90

It is stated a member of Popular Holding Ltd.

Totoro2010,

The details above was from a phone-conversation with my kid on Mon..

I cross-checked the details last night, here are the full details:


Title : English mock examination paper, Primary One.

Price : SGD5.90 (Price at Popular is RM12.10)


The Publisher is Educational Publishing House Pte Ltd (a member of Popular Holding Ltd).

akiyoshi
11-05-2011, 01:18 PM
Teaching method and hours per week for the subject is key.
Both are not conducive currently as far as English is concerned.

And, after the Maths n Science were introduced in bilingual, some subjects gotta give way to accomodate these periods.
Chinese lessons too had to give way. So under the circumstances, even higher priority are given to teaching Chinese.

I had kids in LH pre and post switch and noticed that the pre had a better grounding in Chinese compared to post. With the current system, our kids are a bit here and there !

Just my opinion, as much as I like kids to be bilingual, learning Maths n Science at primary level in both Chinese and English is good but under current time-table, language subjects pay the price.

Totoro2010
11-05-2011, 01:44 PM
Totoro2010,

The details above was from a phone-conversation with my kid on Mon..

I cross-checked the details last night, here are the full details:


Title : English mock examination paper, Primary One.

Price : SGD5.90 (Price at Popular is RM12.10)


The Publisher is Educational Publishing House Pte Ltd (a member of Popular Holding Ltd).
Sagamihara....thanks for your information :) :)

currymee
11-05-2011, 02:56 PM
Teaching method and hours per week for the subject is key.
Both are not conducive currently as far as English is concerned.

And, after the Maths n Science were introduced in bilingual, some subjects gotta give way to accomodate these periods.
Chinese lessons too had to give way. So under the circumstances, even higher priority are given to teaching Chinese.

I had kids in LH pre and post switch and noticed that the pre had a better grounding in Chinese compared to post. With the current system, our kids are a bit here and there !

Just my opinion, as much as I like kids to be bilingual, learning Maths n Science at primary level in both Chinese and English is good but under current time-table, language subjects pay the price.

Yup, bit here and there - jack of all languages (more advanced than Berlitz tour guide phrase book) BUT master of none ... :(

currymee
11-05-2011, 03:24 PM
currymee,

While the idea is good, I think most parents (esp at Std 1) may not agree since the additional classes will be conducted over the weekends and the new parents may not want their children to study 6 days a week !! :eek:

Furthermore, it is a well-known fact that a lot of LH students are taking outside tuition for BM and English, and in most cases, taught by the school teachers themselves. I doubt the school teachers will be keen to see their "extra side income" from private tuitions diminished.

If you have a look at the number of such centres surrounding LH, i.e. Enopi, Kumon, Cambridge Tutors etc etc ... there are already a lot of support system for BM and English outside the school.

Hence, I doubt IF the parents will support or want such extra classes.

Personally, I AGREE with you that EXTRA CLASSES esp in English will be most helpful given that, the children are now studying the least hours per week for English compared to Chinese and BM. To be frankly honest, English is the MOST IMPORTANT of the 3 languages - so it is reflective of our "messed-up" priorities in education. :(

Aerobax,

The crux of my proposal is to make such classes available on a voluntary "fee-paying" basis (like the Hanyu PinYin classes). If it is organised by the LH PIBG, it would surely be cheaper than say the tuition centres. (Note: Not all LH parents are loaded to be able to afford RM200-300 per month per child for such outside tuition classes).

Like the Hanyu Pinyin, if the extra English classes charge only RM90.00 for the term for 12 extra classes of 90 minutes each ... which is a lot comparable to the current school timetable (60 minutes per week) !! :eek:

(Bit of Maths - say one term is roughly 18 weeks of school study = 1,080 minutes , thus the 12 classes of 90 minutes is also 1,080 minutes !!)

Hence, you almost DOUBLE the amount of time English is taught per term. And if these extra classes were to focus on things not in the KBSR syllabus like GRAMMAR DRILL etc ... then the benefits of a stronger command of English out-weights the 90 minutes per weekend commitment - UNLESS there are parents who value time spend at Sunway Pyramid and Subang Parade shopping as more valuable, then I have nothing to say ... :o

cupofcoffee
12-05-2011, 08:31 AM
Aerobax,

The crux of my proposal is to make such classes available on a voluntary "fee-paying" basis (like the Hanyu PinYin classes). If it is organised by the LH PIBG, it would surely be cheaper than say the tuition centres. (Note: Not all LH parents are loaded to be able to afford RM200-300 per month per child for such outside tuition classes).

Like the Hanyu Pinyin, if the extra English classes charge only RM90.00 for the term for 12 extra classes of 90 minutes each ... which is a lot comparable to the current school timetable (60 minutes per week) !! :eek:

(Bit of Maths - say one term is roughly 18 weeks of school study = 1,080 minutes , thus the 12 classes of 90 minutes is also 1,080 minutes !!)

Hence, you almost DOUBLE the amount of time English is taught per term. ... :o

Wow, I did not realise that there were so little time spend on English (only 1 hour per week) in school :( :(

Yes, if it is like the Han Yu Pin Yin classes , then it should work alright :)

currymee
12-05-2011, 02:38 PM
NEWS TO BE CONFIRMED

New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning ?? :eek: :) :)

That is what I heard just now at Hock Hin from some parents - apparently BY INVITATION ONLY (persumably to big donors).

Can anyone confirm this news ? I am not a big donor :o , so not invited hence cannot confirm the news.

GOOD NEWS if it is true, it means we are going to get the new block after all, and possibly in time for 2012 !! :D :D

Totoro2010
12-05-2011, 02:51 PM
NEWS TO BE CONFIRMED

New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning :eek: :) :)

That is what I heard just now at Hock Hin from some parents - apparently BY INVITATION ONLY (persumably to big donors).

Can anyone confirm this news ? I am not a big donor :o , so not invited hence cannot confirm the news.

GOOD NEWS if it is true, it means we are going to get the new block after all, and possibly in time for 2012 !! :D
:eek: I just heard that they still lack of 1 million for this new block at the PIBG meeting of March'11

Suddenly they announce the New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning

It means that the PIBG has collected 1 million in just 2 months time :rolleyes:

Anyway, this is a good news :) :)

Mommy
12-05-2011, 03:27 PM
Maybe its a "good" feng shui day.... :p

Anyway, if really starting have to warn our kids not to be too curious as construction site is always dangerous..
I am very sure my son will be very excited and curious... :eek:

currymee
12-05-2011, 04:28 PM
:eek: I just heard that they still lack of 1 million for this new block at the PIBG meeting of March'11

Suddenly they announce the New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning

It means that the PIBG has collected 1 million in just 2 months time :rolleyes:

Anyway, this is a good news :) :)

Yes, I was caught by SURPRISE as well :eek: - I have my doubts on their abilities to do so given their secretive nature in handling the whole development !! I kept on asking the mothers, are you sure ? Like that and IF TRUE then kudos to PIBG AJK for being so good at collecting donations - I am glad to be proven wrong by them !! :D :D

NOTE: This NEWS is still TO BE CONFIRMED !!!

currymee
13-05-2011, 07:49 AM
TEACHER'S DAY - Monday, 16th May 2011

While we are still waiting for the official notice on the venerable day for the kids to celebrate/honour their teachers. My son asked me what am I going to buy for him to take to school to celebrate .... well, I told him, definitely NOT CURRYMEEs from Choy Kee, too spicy for the kids !!! :D :D :D

Still have not thought about it yet :confused: - should I buy something that Ministry of Education and Ministry of Health approve OR I buy what I know the kids love BUT all parents disapprove ? :p :p :p :p

Still got no news or notices on class party - is it ON or OFF this Monday ? :confused: :confused:

jan tomaswaki
13-05-2011, 01:25 PM
:eek: I just heard that they still lack of 1 million for this new block at the PIBG meeting of March'11

Suddenly they announce the New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning

It means that the PIBG has collected 1 million in just 2 months time :rolleyes:

Anyway, this is a good news :) :)

1 million no problem - do now pay later... :D I don't think it can operate next year maybe 2013,with piling,concreting and whole school will be pollute with dust....

aerobax
14-05-2011, 04:58 AM
Still got no news or notices on class party - is it ON or OFF this Monday ? :confused: :confused:

According to my son, it is on WEDNESDAY (18th May 2011) - Lick Hung's Teacher's Day class party.

aerobax
14-05-2011, 05:03 AM
1 million no problem - do now pay later... :D I don't think it can operate next year maybe 2013,with piling,concreting and whole school will be pollute with dust....

I think you are right here :)

fRaNkY
14-05-2011, 10:13 AM
:eek: I just heard that they still lack of 1 million for this new block at the PIBG meeting of March'11

Suddenly they announce the New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning

It means that the PIBG has collected 1 million in just 2 months time :rolleyes:

Anyway, this is a good news :) :)

Saw the HM taking a hoe this morning when picking up daughter. He looks like chu pak chieh....

fRaNkY
14-05-2011, 10:15 AM
According to my son, it is on WEDNESDAY (18th May 2011) - Lick Hung's Teacher's Day class party.

Correct!correct!correct! Son already asked wat to bring. I suggested twisties :D

cupofcoffee
15-05-2011, 07:44 AM
NEWS TO BE CONFIRMED

New Block Ground-Breaking Ceremony - this Saturday (14th May) morning ?? :eek: :) :)

That is what I heard just now at Hock Hin from some parents - apparently BY INVITATION ONLY (persumably to big donors).

Can anyone confirm this news ? I am not a big donor :o , so not invited hence cannot confirm the news.

GOOD NEWS if it is true, it means we are going to get the new block after all, and possibly in time for 2012 !! :D :D

CONFIRMED - saw the big banner hanging from the canteen awning yesterday :)

cupofcoffee
15-05-2011, 07:45 AM
According to my son, it is on WEDNESDAY (18th May 2011) - Lick Hung's Teacher's Day class party.

CONFIRMED also - :) My son wants to bring MAMEE for all his friends ;)

currymee
16-05-2011, 07:22 AM
I am happy with my son's class teacher :) , so I wish her:

A HAPPY TEACHER'S DAY 2011 :) :)

May you have good health, happy and obedient class kids (well, most anyway :rolleyes: ) less administration load and no hassle from the school management :D :D

You have been a fantastic guide and educator for my son and his friends for the last two years - thank you !! :) They always speak of you in the highest regards, admiration and respect (rather than fear) ;)

And I know the kids always try their best to make you proud of them - all I have to say to them is what do you think teacher XXXX will say .... and all of them will do the right thing :)

Thank you !!

fRaNkY
16-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Why dont u post her name? Let everyone know.

currymee
17-05-2011, 07:24 AM
Why dont u post her name? Let everyone know.

She is the shy type ... ;) ;)

Also I don't want her to get into "difficulties" for being currymee's children's "teacher" ;)

fRaNkY
17-05-2011, 11:07 AM
Dont forget to give her a meaningful gift on teacher's day.

currymee
17-05-2011, 04:46 PM
Dont forget to give her a meaningful gift on teacher's day.

fRaNkY,

You will be surprised to hear that she told her class children that she does not want any gifts for teacher's day and the best gift that she wants from all of them is to study hard and do well in exams :) That is a REAL teacher :)

fRaNkY
17-05-2011, 06:47 PM
a meaningful gift does not have to be bought ...

currymee
18-05-2011, 07:54 AM
a meaningful gift does not have to be bought ...

Hahaha ... I hope you are NOT refering to hugs and kisses - kena "smacked" in the head afterwards :p :p

If you are refering to home-made cards, art and craft - errrrr .... my son is brought up in the "traditional" boy's mould - cuts & bruises, rough & tumble, run here and there, kick, smack, punch, pinch, scream and yell type, on-screen role models include Ultraman, Bruce Lee, Jacky Chan, Arnold Schwartzeneggar, Van Damme, Rocky/Rambo, James Bond, John Wayne, etc .... :p

He is not into the soft skills like drawing, colouring, music etc ... He prefers sports and "sweat" activities ....

currymee
18-05-2011, 07:59 AM
Are we (parents) collecting report cards this term ?

My wife asked me just now because this year she wants to go and chit-chat with the class teacher ... 2 more weeks to go before end of term ... still no news and she said she needs at least 48 hours advance notice for leave application.

The way she asked me AS IF I AM THE HM and I can decide wor ??? :eek: :eek: :p

So, any news by anyone on this ? :confused:

currymee
18-05-2011, 10:00 AM
Teacher's Day Class party (18th May 2011) - plastic plate, fork and spoon

Based on last year's experience, don't forget to pack a set of plastic fork and spoon and tupperware (to use as plate) for the kids - who knows they may need them in case some friends come with beehon, jelly etc ... ;)

Sorry for the late notice, my son just made the request just now for the cutlery .... :o (I have totally forgotten - getting old :o )

Rhiga
18-05-2011, 11:20 AM
Teacher's Day Class party (18th May 2011) - plastic plate, fork and spoon

Based on last year's experience, don't forget to pack a set of plastic fork and spoon and tupperware (to use as plate) for the kids - who knows they may need them in case some friends come with beehon, jelly etc ... ;)



Bro,

I am puzzled… I thought this is Teacher Day.. not Children Day..

Why most of the posts about teacher day is about how to get the kids ready, bring food and drinks for classmate ????

currymee
18-05-2011, 11:59 AM
Bro,

I am puzzled… I thought this is Teacher Day.. not Children Day..

Why most of the posts about teacher day is about how to get the kids ready, bring food and drinks for classmate ????

Hahaha ... it is a kid's party !! :D :D All PARTIES are KIDS' (big or small ;) ) parties - well, at least, all the ENJOYABLE ones I have been to ... :p :p :D

akiyoshi
18-05-2011, 12:57 PM
It is Teacher's Day because Teachers also get a break .. don't have to teach while everyone's partying. :D
One highly recommended gift to teachers are red pens ! They sure will find these useful.

fRaNkY
18-05-2011, 08:41 PM
Some parents are so rich that their brought 79rm secret recipe chez cake!

cupofcoffee
19-05-2011, 06:42 AM
My son and his friends all went home with bags of JUNK FOOD each and smiles on their faces :rolleyes: :) :)

My son even told me that they had a "barter" exchange system - one packet of MAMEE is worth the same as 1 packet of Twisties/Chickedees but 2X everything else - wow, even got an exchange rate system system based on taste and size !! :eek: The kids were trading everywhere after school.

currymee
19-05-2011, 08:14 AM
My son and his friends all went home with bags of JUNK FOOD each and smiles on their faces :rolleyes: :) :)

My son even told me that they had a "barter" exchange system - one packet of MAMEE is worth the same as 1 packet of Twisties/Chickedees but 2X everything else - wow, even got an exchange rate system system based on taste and size !! :eek: The kids were trading everywhere after school.

My son went one step further, he went and exchanged with his friends from other classes !! :D :D He said they have got different kind of junk food :p :p

currymee
19-05-2011, 10:17 AM
"Disturbing News/Rumours" regarding NEW BLOCK development

TO BE CONFIRMED - A few parents told me yesterday that the new block will also include an INDOOR MULTI-PURPOSE hall for the basketball. :confused: :eek: I was shocked and surprised to say the least !!
(Note: I cannot confirm as it seems the news was mentioned only during the BY-INVITATION ground breaking ceremony on the 15th May).

I have been asking around but no-one seems to know since not many parents that I know donated more than RM30,000 to have the privilege of attending the ceremony. :rolleyes: I only know "poor" parents like me ;)

IF IT IS TRUE, my questions are:

1) Why was this not mentioned in the PIBG new classroom block development donation form request ?

2) Was the new classroom block delayed because of this "unmentioned addition" to the development which needed extra funds ? :mad:

3) Why on earth does the kids want to play indoor basketball ? FRESH AIR and SUNSHINE will do them a lot of good instead of being cooped up indoors all the time. :confused: (Please use your brains !! Sunshine and fresh air are better than air-conditioned hall)

If the above development is TRUE, then I am most disappointed with the "sneaky" and "unsincere" way that the PIBG operates and the funds have been collected - it is misleading the parents into thinking that we are donating for the classrooms only :mad:

ANY MORE SURPRISES ?

NOTE: I don't mind IF they want to build another TWIN-TOWERS, but please tell us openly and honestly. If we object then listen to the parents also !! I am sad to conclude that the PIBG AJK does not represent the interest of the parents at all in this episode :(

birdy
20-05-2011, 05:33 AM
Maybe they are going to invite NBA players to come and play? :D :D

onewira
20-05-2011, 07:38 AM
Dear Forumers (esp parents of Lick Hung schoolchildren),

....

This thread is not meant to be a channel for BASHING or WALLOPING the school, management or PIBG but to share info, raise issues, Q&A and other matters of concern to us as parents, and if necessary, we will collate them to be addressed in future PIBG - the official channel for us to discuss.

Thank you for your kind attention :)

Currymee,

I think you better stop posting about Lick Hung and close this thread since you have been consistently breaking your own "rules" ... "This thread is not meant to be a channel for BASHING or WALLOPING the school, management or PIBG ... "

currymee
20-05-2011, 08:32 AM
Currymee,

I think you better stop posting about Lick Hung and close this thread since you have been consistently breaking your own "rules" ... "This thread is not meant to be a channel for BASHING or WALLOPING the school, management or PIBG ... "

Onewira,

Since we are now refering to my "rules" for the thread and discussion (btw, I regard them as pointers and advice rather than "rules" ) - please NOTE what I highlighted below esp regarding raising ISSUES and matters of concern to parents !!!

As for the PIBG being the official channel for discussion - I have concluded after attending 2 PIBG AGMs, it is A NON-FUNCTIONAL channel .... (note: I wrote about PIBG being the official channel BEFORE I attended any LH PIBG AGMS, after that, with GREAT SADNESS, I changed my point of view completely :( )


Dear Forumers (esp parents of Lick Hung schoolchildren),
....

This thread is not meant to be a channel for BASHING or WALLOPING the school, management or PIBG but to share info, raise issues, Q&A and other matters of concern to us as parents, and if necessary, we will collate them to be addressed in future PIBG - the official channel for us to discuss.

Thank you for your kind attention :)

Misleading, misinformation, lack of proper communication, lack of transparency, lack of proper accountability esp when it involves funds from parents are (IMHO) matters of concern to (some) parents ....

Is it so difficult and "treasoneous" for me to request for the school management and PIBG AJK to be open, sincere and transparent in its dealings with the parents ? :confused: :confused:

School is also about imparting good moral values and exemplary conduct NOT JUST EXAM RESULTS .... school leadership comes from the school management and PIBG AJK.

or maybe I am expecting TOO MUCH from Lick Hung .... :( - a "supposedly" High-Performance, Cluster Cemerlang school .... maybe I should LOWER my expectation ....

On hindsight, maybe you are RIGHT, maybe I should take a BREAK from writing about Lick Hung - it is TOO DEPRESSING !!! - now, I need TWO BOWLS of currymee to perk me up .... :p :p

jan tomaswaki
20-05-2011, 08:48 AM
Currymee,
I think you better stop posting about Lick Hung and close this thread since you have been consistently breaking your own "rules" ... "This thread is not meant to be a channel for BASHING or WALLOPING the school, management or PIBG ... "
Good day mate,since i do not have children in LH anymore,i read with great interest :) most probably i have contribute much to the school previously.Maybe Currymee is right-PIBG is lack of proper communication.There is 2 things you can chip in,since you in the nick- tell us what's happening or maybe release a monthly newsletter.Cheers

fRaNkY
20-05-2011, 08:51 AM
Sabar-sabar.... lets not jump to conclusion first... verify the info first... ;)

Lets not get upset and get the blood pressure up :D

Two more weeks to school holidays?

QuietStorm
20-05-2011, 08:52 AM
Go go go, Currymee! Don't whack (but with reason), no improvements. Although I don't have any kids there, I believe you're doing a favor to all the parents whose children are studying there. Keep up the good job.

Jan, why? Oh I get it. Your child has moved on to Form 1, eh?

currymee
20-05-2011, 09:17 AM
Go go go, Currymee! Don't whack (but with reason), no improvements. ....

QS,

I don't want to whack (and I don't encourage it !) or say bad things about the school, I think it is a great school esp the class teachers :) , I just want to HIGHLIGHT certain aspects (eg: communication and transparency) which I think the school management and PIBG AJK can improve and do better - I rather not having to say anything which will mean they are doing the right and proper thing ....

.... if I whack, it will be crude, full of expletives and bananas flying all over the place :p :p :D :D

QuietStorm
20-05-2011, 09:30 AM
.... if I whack, it will be crude, full of expletives and bananas flying all over the place :p :p :D :DOh! :eek: :D hehehe. Ok then. Be gentle but firm and always be seen carrying a cane so they know you mean business. :p:p :D

Rhiga
20-05-2011, 10:48 AM
Allow me to digress to a different topic – student safety

I have seen van entered the school compound thru the main gate and unloaded the goods… mostly books/stationary for the school’s book shop.

I request the school to impose a rule – no vehicle for loading and unloading between 12 noon to 1pm during weekdays, and 8am to 1pm on Saturday & Sunday.

There are a lot of children walking during this time intervals – going to school for the afternoon session between 12-1pm, and co-curriculum activities on Saturday/Sunday..

Goods delivery and unloading can be done before 12 noon or after 1pm when the children traffic is very much lesser.

LH school teachers and HM, if you are reading this post, pls evaluate this suggestion and implement it for the safety of students.

Thank You

jan tomaswaki
20-05-2011, 11:30 AM
I have seen van entered the school compound thru the main gate and unloaded the goods… mostly books/stationary for the school’s book shop.

Saga,got a point here,have strict delivery rules,not to clash with the school schdule.Last time when i was in Guangdong,Makro hypermarket only allow deliveries after midnite. ;)

currymee
20-05-2011, 12:06 PM
Are we (parents) collecting report cards this term ?

My wife asked me just now because this year she wants to go and chit-chat with the class teacher ... 2 more weeks to go before end of term ... still no news and she said she needs at least 48 hours advance notice for leave application.

The way she asked me AS IF I AM THE HM and I can decide wor ??? :eek: :eek: :p

So, any news by anyone on this ? :confused:

One of the mothers that I know told me that her daughter mentioned to her that report cards for her class will be given out next term, after the school holidays.

My "blur sotong" son still in "don't know" mode ... :o :o

Totoro2010
20-05-2011, 08:04 PM
My kid has lost the book pricing list for the 3M magazine etc.

Any parents can post it here... I have to print it out, thanks. :)

currymee
21-05-2011, 06:05 PM
My kid has lost the book pricing list for the 3M magazine etc.

Any parents can post it here... I have to print it out, thanks. :)

Totoro,

Too late notice lah, already submitted (unless there is another parent who has not done so and can help out) :) but you can ....

Just write a cheque for RM12.50 made payable to KUO LIANG BOOK HOUSE and write behind the cheque - your child's name, class, and add "to buy 3M magazine"

Better still, make an extra note (for their purchase record), stating the above details again and attached together with cheque for the class teacher.

cupofcoffee
22-05-2011, 05:09 PM
One of the mothers that I know told me that her daughter mentioned to her that report cards for her class will be given out next term, after the school holidays.

My "blur sotong" son still in "don't know" mode ... :o :o

I heard some of the classes have already got their report cards :confused: :confused:

My son's class still hasn't got the report card although the class teacher has already informed the children of their term (averaged over last 2 exams) class position.

currymee
23-05-2011, 07:47 AM
I heard some of the classes have already got their report cards :confused: :confused:

My son's class still hasn't got the report card although the class teacher has already informed the children of their term (averaged over last 2 exams) class position.

So it looks like we (the parents) are not being asked to go and collect the report cards this year :confused:

This is what I meant by Lick Hung's "nuances" when I started this thread - some times got, some times don't have .... the only things that are CONSISTENT so far are the 4 EXAMS per year, the same top boy and girl coming 1st and 2nd in my son's class and a "pre-determined" PIBG AJK election and their lack of ability to communicate effectively :p :D

currymee
23-05-2011, 08:05 AM
Last Week of School Term - Holidays next week :D :D

5 more days !!!

Unfortunately, my son and his friends (last Friday) were already complaining that the class teacher has already started to ask them to start the Holiday homework .... :rolleyes: I told them, well, this is Lick Hung .... High Peformance School, Cluster Cemerlang School, no. 1 school in Selangor with most 7As in UPSR etc ... and all I got are BLANK LOOKS :eek: :p - guess, they don't give a monkey to those titles/accolades if it means MORE homework hahahahhaaaa ..... :p :D I love kids at this age for the innocent responses !! :D

Totoro2010
23-05-2011, 12:35 PM
Last Week of School Term - Holidays next week :D :D

5 more days !!!

.....start the Holiday homework .... :D
:eek: So fast ah!!!

Your son's class may be is a no.1 class at LH :rolleyes: ....my kid's class not yet start the holiday homework...I am not sure whether the books of holiday homework have been delivered to the kids or not :confused:

Mommy
23-05-2011, 12:48 PM
Manage to check with son teacher that the report card will be given only after the school holiday. As for parent teacher discussion, not sure yet.
aik, dont hear anything from son that there will be holiday homework..He will be cursing if there is :p

currymee
23-05-2011, 02:15 PM
Manage to check with son teacher that the report card will be given only after the school holiday. As for parent teacher discussion, not sure yet.
aik, dont hear anything from son that there will be holiday homework..He will be cursing if there is :p

Got !! :p - it is the holiday workbook in the recent booklist UNLESS you did not buy for him lor :D

currymee
23-05-2011, 02:19 PM
:eek: So fast ah!!!

Your son's class may be is a no.1 class at LH :rolleyes: ....my kid's class not yet start the holiday homework...I am not sure whether the books of holiday homework have been delivered to the kids or not :confused:

To be honest, whether it is the no. 1 class or not (I dont think so, although the children that always got no. 1 and 2 seems to be on their own different level of performance compared to the others :confused: - semua 100, 98 or 96 !! ), it does not matter since it is the individual performance that matters most. For me, I rather my son's class to be the normal average one - more balance in terms of work and play and less nerdy or kiasu !!

Mommy
23-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Got !! :p - it is the holiday workbook in the recent booklist UNLESS you did not buy for him lor :D


or perhaps, he didnt inform me about those books...hahahaha :D :D :D

currymee
24-05-2011, 07:47 AM
Holiday already started early for some !! :eek: :D

Wow !! My son said some of his classmates came in yesterday to say bye-bye as they will be off for their overseas holidays in the next 2-3 days !! :cool: :cool:

Then he said, can we start on ours early also ? I said nope, everything already booked and settled, so be PATIENT and FINISH your homework - holidays or no holidays, homework must still be done and completed first !! :p :p

Then he said, what about his friends' homework ? Do they have to do theirs also ? A-HA !!! :D I said, YES, there is NO ESCAPE from Lick Hung's homework unless you want to go and "negotiate" with the class teacher and Asst HM by YOURSELF :p This daddy is not helping !!

PS: We are going "over-South China-sea" for a holiday to Sarawak - Santubong, Bako, Kuching ... :D

Fledgeling
24-05-2011, 04:37 PM
Happy Hols to the kids and also to all the parents! Hope you all have a very good, well-deserved break. :D

currymee
25-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Happy Hols to the kids and also to all the parents! Hope you all have a very good, well-deserved break. :D

Thank you :)

When you joined us as Lick Hung parents, you will be SO APPRECIATIVE of this little thing call "school holidays" - only after my son has entered LH do I now fully understand why parents and kids "go nuts" in enjoying themselves at resorts and holiday spots during school holiday vacations :p :D

chookyan
25-05-2011, 09:37 AM
When you joined us as Lick Hung parents, you will be SO APPRECIATIVE of this little thing call "school holidays" - only after my son has entered LH do I now fully understand why parents and kids "go nuts" in enjoying themselves at resorts and holiday spots during school holiday vacations :p :D[/QUOTE]

So you will also take a holiday from Choy Kee currymee :D

currymee
25-05-2011, 10:16 AM
...

So you will also take a holiday from Choy Kee currymee :D

Hahahaha .... :D :D The currymee auntie always said to me that she doesn't like school holidays - her lunch time and breakfast business at Choy Kee goes down almost 50 % :eek: - same also for Kett Star, Hock Hin etc ... like it or not, Lick Hung school and its "shopping" parents are an integral part of the SS19/6 community business ... :rolleyes:

The only thing that puzzles me is WHY DID THE McDonalds (now replaced by Speedmart99) close down ? :confused: :confused: I would expect it to do a roaring business !! :confused:

Totoro2010
25-05-2011, 10:50 AM
PS: We are going "over-South China-sea" for a holiday to Sarawak - Santubong, Bako, Kuching ... :D
Good neh...I heard that Sarawak will celebrate the Gawai Dayak (is a festival celebrated in Sarawak on 1 June every year)...you can feel the different culture of Orang Dayak :) :)

currymee
25-05-2011, 04:23 PM
Good neh...I heard that Sarawak will celebrate the Gawai Dayak (is a festival celebrated in Sarawak on 1 June every year)...you can feel the different culture of Orang Dayak :) :)

Actually, Sarawa is our second choice - we wanted to go to Cherating (before the Lynas plant in Gebeng starts and pollute the whole area :rolleyes: ) but all the decent hotels over the weekend were booked out, and we also cancelled our initial weekdays booking as we decided to change destination instead. :D

currymee
25-05-2011, 05:05 PM
FRIDAY 27th May 2011 - school day or holiday?

I got a lot of parents asking me over lunch just now about this Friday (27/5), well, as far as I know it is a SCHOOL DAY - some of them refer to the calendar (the lumba kuda /horse-racing ones ;) ) which marked Friday as the start of school holidays.

Well, in a way, they are right IF YOU ARE IN KEDAH, KELANTAN and TERENGGANU :p :p :D - the schools up North and east Coast ends on Thursday but not here in Lick Hung .... ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... wow, I did not realise that a lot of many parents here did not know that these 3 states are "different" from the others in terms of weekend (Friday & Saturday - Islamic based weekend) vs (Saturday & Sunday - Christian based weekend)

Now you know - and unless there is a special announcement - FRIDAY is a SCHOOL DAY ! :D

fRaNkY
25-05-2011, 07:08 PM
Hahahaha .... :D :D The currymee auntie always said to me that she doesn't like school holidays - her lunch time and breakfast business at Choy Kee goes down almost 50 % :eek: - same also for Kett Star, Hock Hin etc ... like it or not, Lick Hung school and its "shopping" parents are an integral part of the SS19/6 community business ... :rolleyes:

The only thing that puzzles me is WHY DID THE McDonalds (now replaced by Speedmart99) close down ? :confused: :confused: I would expect it to do a roaring business !! :confused:

Dont forget the organic pork shop opposite! :D

Heard the owner want to raise Mcd
rental

Fledgeling
25-05-2011, 07:18 PM
Not to spoil the holiday mood....but have any parents tried any of the 'Holiday Camps' offered by the various enrichment centers e.g. Music Camp, BM camp etc? Only 3 to 5 days laaa.... still can have holidays before or after...

:D

chookyan
25-05-2011, 07:37 PM
Hahahaha .... :D :D The currymee auntie always said to me that she doesn't like school holidays - her lunch time and breakfast business at Choy Kee goes down almost 50 % :eek: - same also for Kett Star, Hock Hin etc ... like it or not, Lick Hung school and its "shopping" parents are an integral part of the SS19/6 community business ... :rolleyes:

The only thing that puzzles me is WHY DID THE McDonalds (now replaced by Speedmart99) close down ? :confused: :confused: I would expect it to do a roaring business !! :confused:

Last Sunday went to Choy Kee - Tai Chow also full house and currymee auntie still full of energy taking orders.

I think the shop under MacD feng shui not so good, curving at the junction. :)

currymee
26-05-2011, 06:07 AM
fRaNkY and chookyan,

Thanks for the info on McD - just surprised that it went bust - used to be my favourite McD joint when I first moved down to SJ/USJ

currymee
26-05-2011, 06:10 AM
Report Card Collection - NEXT TERM

I think most of you will know this by now from the kids. This post is just to reconfirm as I have spoken to a few teachers about it - ok, I spoke to one teacher and there were another 3 hanging around her ;)

jan tomaswaki
26-05-2011, 07:51 AM
fRaNkY and chookyan,

Thanks for the info on McD - just surprised that it went bust - used to be my favourite McD joint when I first moved down to SJ/USJ
The McD outlet belongs to my friend's daughter,use to rent about RM17K for 10 years contract.Business is no no good,as Tupai points out earlier in other post,all the transporter and auntie use to take up all the seats available just to chit chat- free a/con mah.It also applies to Baker's cottage bakery.

Totoro2010
26-05-2011, 08:54 AM
Report Card Collection - NEXT TERM

I think most of you will know this by now from the kids. This post is just to reconfirm as I have spoken to a few teachers about it - ok, I spoke to one teacher and there were another 3 hanging around her ;)
My kid really a blur sotong...don't have any info about the Report Card until now

Just wonder why have to wait until next term to collect the report card :rolleyes: ....doesn't the exam over quite a long time....really don't understand :confused:

cupofcoffee
26-05-2011, 01:54 PM
My son seems to be suffering from regular blisters and swollen fingers from writing too much :( :( - does any other child also suffer from the same problem ?

Any solution or remedy ? :confused:

birdy
27-05-2011, 05:00 AM
My son seems to be suffering from regular blisters and swollen fingers from writing too much :( :( - does any other child also suffer from the same problem ?

Any solution or remedy ? :confused:
Could he be holding the pencil the wrong way? Maybe pressed too hard?

currymee
27-05-2011, 10:25 AM
Could he be holding the pencil the wrong way? Maybe pressed too hard?

Yes, I do agree with Birdy, please check how he is holding the pencil, might just be straining a bit too much.

currymee
27-05-2011, 10:26 AM
HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE !!

Have a nice and good break everyone !! See you all the week after next :D :D :D

cupofcoffee
27-05-2011, 04:34 PM
Yes, I do agree with Birdy, please check how he is holding the pencil, might just be straining a bit too much.

Silly question :o but is there such a thing as a proper way to hold a pencil ? :confused: :confused:

Please enlighten IF there is any figures/diagrams as an example.

Mommy
27-05-2011, 04:40 PM
Silly question :o but is there such a thing as a proper way to hold a pencil ? :confused: :confused:

Please enlighten IF there is any figures/diagrams as an example.

Actually, on the 1st day of school, the class teacher has taught the children the right way to hold pencil

cupofcoffee
27-05-2011, 05:09 PM
Actually, on the 1st day of school, the class teacher has taught the children the right way to hold pencil

Oh! I did not know that :o - thanks :) , I will ask my son later when he gets back from school. I hope he still remembers what was taught back in Std 1 as he has been complaining of the blisters especially when there is a ton of homework !! :(

I resorted to using plasters as a "cushion" :eek:

akiyoshi
27-05-2011, 05:16 PM
Google "how to hold a pencil correctly" and there are lots of images.

I even have a guidebook...look very ancient and in chinese.
All my kids hold the pencil wrongly, even though they started correctly at Kindy. I may be wrong but somehow noticed that most Chinese school kids end up holding too close to the bottom of the pencil.

When attempt to correct the grip, they said even more tiring ! Very hard to correct...even with the book to prove them wrong.

cupofcoffee
29-05-2011, 07:26 AM
Google "how to hold a pencil correctly" and there are lots of images.

I even have a guidebook...look very ancient and in chinese.
All my kids hold the pencil wrongly, even though they started correctly at Kindy. I may be wrong but somehow noticed that most Chinese school kids end up holding too close to the bottom of the pencil.

When attempt to correct the grip, they said even more tiring ! Very hard to correct...even with the book to prove them wrong.

Hi Akiyoshi,

Thanks for the tips and suggestions - yes, you are right, my son is having the SAME problem as well - holding the pencil too close to the bottom :(

ctb
30-05-2011, 04:37 PM
My son seems to be suffering from regular blisters and swollen fingers from writing too much :( :( - does any other child also suffer from the same problem ?

Any solution or remedy ? :confused:

The proper way is to use triangle shape pencil. The children's finger will be more comfortable.

Mommy
31-05-2011, 04:13 PM
The proper way is to use triangle shape pencil. The children's finger will be more comfortable.


I tried this on my son when he was young. Thus, it was ok when he was using the triangle pencil. When I change to normal pencil, dont think he is holding it the same way. So far, I havent seen mechanical pencil with triangle shape.

What I notice is he always press very hard when doing writing which I always have to correct him whenever I see.
As I mentioned on the first day, the teacher taught them to hold the triangle shape pencil way. She even explained that they have to practice that as years passes they will have so many writing if they dont hold that way, they will get tired very fast. I am using the same nagging on my son. Once a while he will listen, not all the time :p

birdy
01-06-2011, 08:09 AM
Looks like you have to use some metaphor story to teach him... ;) Just suggestion, associate holding pencils to driving a car ... if he were to press too hard (similar to pressing the brake while driving), the car cannot not move fast... there goes telling him that by pressing the pencil too hard, he can't write fast and the brake pad will worn out fast (aka his hand!) ...

Depending on your son's liking, like to associate it to create a metaphor.. I am just quoting a car as example. :)

cupofcoffee
02-06-2011, 06:47 AM
The proper way is to use triangle shape pencil. The children's finger will be more comfortable.

Hi ctb,

Thanks for the tips - I will get him some later to try when I go to the bookshops. :)

LMei
02-06-2011, 10:09 AM
So far, I havent seen mechanical pencil with triangle shape.


I bought that mechanical pencil for my son to use from Popular. It has a groove for where to place your finger. It's available for both right handed or left handed children. He started using pencil using only 2 fingers and tire easily when writing or coloring. However, "peer pressure" is still there cos he didn't want to be the only one using that pencil. He wants to use what his friends are using.

cupofcoffee
03-06-2011, 08:34 AM
.... So far, I havent seen mechanical pencil with triangle shape.



Got, I just bought one - it is the Faber-Castell TRI-CLICK series :)

I bought it from Jaya Jusco but it is a very common type widely available - I think I saw it in Speedmart 99 also :)

currymee
06-06-2011, 07:41 AM
Got, I just bought one - it is the Faber-Castell TRI-CLICK series :)

I bought it from Jaya Jusco but it is a very common type widely available - I think I saw it in Speedmart 99 also :)

Yes, that is the one my son is also using - I bought it at BIG Bookstore in Taipan :)

currymee
06-06-2011, 07:45 AM
Time to Start Studying

Well, after ONE whole week of serious holidaying :D - told my son last night that starting tomorrow (today), he has to RE-START his "engine" with some light workout in Maths, English and BM ....

To my surprise, he said OK and that he was getting bored with no exercises to do anyway :eek: :eek: - I think I have "created" a studying Frankenstein !!!! :eek: :eek:

currymee
06-06-2011, 09:03 AM
Teaching of Science and Maths in English in SJKCs (if Cabinet says PIBG/PTA votes/decides)

During the recent holidays, I had the chance of meeting up with a few teachers from another Klang Valley SJKC (I don't even know/remember how to spell the name but sounds like a pretty popular KL one ;) ), who were on a school trip staying in the same hotel.

So we chatted ... and one of the topic was on the possible Cabinet decision on reverting to English for Science and Maths (ScM as short form :p ) based on the request of the individual school's PIBG/PTA. Their frank answers surprised me and I can see some "hot clashes" between parents and teachers in a number of schools IF the Cabinet screws up .... (which is almost like 100% certainty !!)

These teachers said, IF given the choice, majority (if not all) SJKC teachers will vote for ScM to be taught in Chinese during the PIBG/PTA meeting on the matter because:

1) Strengthen the Mandarin among the children - after all, SJKC is a Chinese-medium school.
2) The teachers are better versed in Mandarin than English to teach ScM
3) They believe that STRONG FOUNDATION in ScM is more important than the language despite all the political hoo-haa .... and in the context of SJKCs, the teachers can teach ScM best and strongest in Mandarin, so why teach it in language where the teachers are also struggling ?

They said it is better that ScM be taught in Mandarin (for SJKCs) and English be given EXTRA HOURS and emphasis as a proper language and not rojak via ScM.

So, I ask what will happen IF the parents vote for YES and the teachers NO during PIBG on the matter ?

Wow ... macam-macam responses ... basically, the teachers are confident that the parents will "come to their senses" when they tell them that it is in the BEST INTEREST for the children in SJKCs for ScM to be taught in the language the teachers know BEST ... otherwise, be prepared to accept half-baked teaching :eek: One teacher said, if any parents were to be "troublesome" and "insistent" then, the school may recommend for the child to be transfered to another school that will have ScM taught in English, "win-win" for all ..... aiyoyo ....

Then we moved on to the topic of teaching PROPER English ... wah, currymee "cari pasal" :p .... another round of drinks and ear-full ... :eek:

PS: So how will Lick Hung parents and teachers vote in such a situation ? :confused:

currymee
06-06-2011, 11:40 AM
Teaching of Science and Maths in English in SJKCs (if Cabinet says PIBG/PTA votes/decides)

During the recent holidays, I had the chance of meeting up with a few teachers from another Klang Valley SJKC (I don't even know/remember how to spell the name but sounds like a pretty popular KL one ;) ), who were on a school trip staying in the same hotel.

So we chatted ... and one of the topic was on the possible Cabinet decision on reverting to English for Science and Maths (ScM as short form :p ) based on the request of the individual school's PIBG/PTA. Their frank answers surprised me and I can see some "hot clashes" between parents and teachers in a number of schools IF the Cabinet screws up .... (which is almost like 100% certainty !!)

These teachers said, IF given the choice, majority (if not all) SJKC teachers will vote for ScM to be taught in Chinese during the PIBG/PTA meeting on the matter because:

1) Strengthen the Mandarin among the children - after all, SJKC is a Chinese-medium school.
2) The teachers are better versed in Mandarin than English to teach ScM
3) They believe that STRONG FOUNDATION in ScM is more important than the language despite all the political hoo-haa .... and in the context of SJKCs, the teachers can teach ScM best and strongest in Mandarin, so why teach it in language where the teachers are also struggling ?

They said it is better that ScM be taught in Mandarin (for SJKCs) and English be given EXTRA HOURS and emphasis as a proper language and not rojak via ScM.

So, I ask what will happen IF the parents vote for YES and the teachers NO during PIBG on the matter ?

Wow ... macam-macam responses ... basically, the teachers are confident that the parents will "come to their senses" when they tell them that it is in the BEST INTEREST for the children in SJKCs for ScM to be taught in the language the teachers know BEST ... otherwise, be prepared to accept half-baked teaching :eek: One teacher said, if any parents were to be "troublesome" and "insistent" then, the school may recommend for the child to be transfered to another school that will have ScM taught in English, "win-win" for all ..... aiyoyo ....

Then we moved on to the topic of teaching PROPER English ... wah, currymee "cari pasal" :p .... another round of drinks and ear-full ... :eek:

PS: So how will Lick Hung parents and teachers vote in such a situation ? :confused:

Forgot to add, you can vote at this thread below :o :D

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=33090

All in all, I really had a good discussion with these teachers, I guess they were just as surprised to find a parent that is very much clued in and interested in the children's education. ;)

currymee
07-06-2011, 08:28 AM
English in SJKCs (point of views from teachers of a KL SJKC)

After discussing about ScM in English, then the teachers and I switched topic to teaching of English and BM, more specifically English.

(Note: These are frank personal views and opinions - not an official school or Govt position)

They were not too concerned about BM because in their opinion, BM is an easy language to learn and pick up. It is a matter of WANT or DON'T WANT ... One teacher even mentioned that her late-grandma, who was born and bred in China speaks Kelantanese BM like a native after 5 years of living in Kelantan without recognising a single word ! However, they do highlight that mastery of BM requires regular conversation and reading and that is sorely lacking in SJKCs. One of the teachers who actually teaches BM mentioned that after Std 3, whenever it is the BM period, the students in their school are REQUIRED to speak in BM or be punished !

ENGLISH - this language is a big headache for the SJKC. It is not easy to learn and full of nuances esp the grammar and with the Malaysian English syllabus all messed-up, everything becomes twice as hard !! All of them agreed that it is more important than Mandarin in terms of commercial value until the mainland PRC Chinese are studying to master English by the millions !! :eek:

I mentiond to them of the "disconnect" that I noticed in the teaching of English in SJKC schools. The syllabus teaches communication English but the exams test Grammar. They concurred that the teachers are bound by the SJKC English syllabus which is "messed-up" in proper teaching of English. One teacher was so unhappy to even regard the English standard set by Ministry of Education to be "kopitiam" level English and no more, and she said no wonder none of the students can find a job afterwards !! :(

In SJKCs, they do teach GRAMMAR but only from Std 3-4 onwards, while in Std 1-2, the students "float" in communication English to familiarise themselves with the language. However, they mentioned that for proper mastery in English, again, immersion in terms of daily usage, reading etc is the key to success and this element is sorely lacking in SJKCs, where the MAIN EMPHASIS is on MANDARIN immersion. They mentioned that logically, it is quite a LOT to expect a child to master 3 languages simulatneously esp when the grammar and structure of all 3 are different !! :eek:

Having said that, they also noted that in urban schools like Lick Hung, Damansara and theirs, most parents actually teach/tuition the children and this helps a lot esp in BM and English. They don't like to be seen as "abandoning their responsibilities" as teachers BUT there is just NOT ENOUGH TIME in a normal school period to master all 3 languages on top of Maths and Science, PE, Music, Computer classes, Art etc ....

What is the solution then ? I asked ... :confused:

They replied, JUST SOLDIER ON as best as you can, recognise the weaknesses of the system and do your best as parents to remedy them. They said they are also parents, and they also have to teach their own children at home as well .... we are all in the same boat ....

They mentioned in all honesty, don't rely on the SJKCs for world-class mastery of BM and ENGLISH, they cannot cope due to syllabus and time-constraint .... all they can do is to "band-aid" for UPSR and get them through with as many "A" as possible, after that, .... GOOD LUCK.

SJKCs will give them a solid grounding in Mandarin, Science and Mathematics ... the CORE FOCUS of every SJKCs.

For proper mastery of BM and English in SJKCs, .... DIY ..... do-it-yourself .... just like what they are doing for their own kids too.

(Note Again: These are frank personal views and opinions - not an official school or Govt position)

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I noticed that the teachers have got a lot to say and tell IF you take "the school out of them" .... i.e. don't engage them in the school compound, they will feel very "uptight" and clam-up spouting "official lines".... have a chit-chat a few kilometres from school .... WAH ! Banyak cerita !!! :eek:

I am sure Lick Hung teachers will have BETTER GEMS of opinions, stories and experiences to share .... :p :p :D :D

currymee
07-06-2011, 09:29 AM
The ONE FACTOR that the teachers hinted or mentioned in passing many times BUT shy to say it (I don't blame them :o ) is that the current generation/batch of teachers are not strong in their mastery of English.

Hence, they are concerned about "the blind leading the blind" esp in the SJKCs ... and it seems the Ministry of Education is not doing anything about it and will continue to let the English standard slips into oblivion because of the MoE's aim is to MEMPERKASAKAN BM .... politics in education .... sigh :( - somehow, in their warp MoE civil service narrow-mind, to "memperkasakan" BM equates to destroying English/Mandarin etc .... a "zero-sum" game attitude instead of "win-win" .... :mad: i.e. for BM "to win", English and others must "lose" INSTEAD of all languages grow and prosper !! GILA !! :mad:

These teachers' views are food for thoughts for me to think seriously about the children's education in the secondary level and beyond ....

fongkimseng
07-06-2011, 12:17 PM
Currymee,

As an ex-HM, I can say that what the KL SJKC teachers told you are not at all surprising :( In fact, if they were to mention otherwise, then I would say, they are lying through their teeth.

It is sad for me to note the rapidly declining standards of Malaysia's education in ALL aspects/subjects and not just in English (which suffered the most). What happened ? The answer is simple - when teaching profession was "devalued" by an ever-materialistic society and the cream and best of society does not become public educators but capitalist instead - this is the consequence of "you reap what you sow" ....

In Malaysia's case, you add political meddling, over-zealous nationalistic and religious drive - the end result is a screwed-up education syllabus, teachers and flip-flop policies.

For Malaysia to revert to the old standard of the 1960s and 70s is now an impossibility unless there is a MAJOR OVERHAUL in making EDUCATION INDEPENDENT OF POLITICS and for society to start valuing teaching as a NOBLE and HONOURABLE profession beyond monetary gain. Can we do these things ? I would say, "NO" in the current climate and societal values.

Today's cohorts of teachers are those that cannot get a better job after graduation, they are no longer the smartest and brightest.

Perhaps, all the new JPA scholarships should only be given to those who are willing to be teachers then you may get the cream again !! - a radical solution ? ;) Maybe that is what Malaysia needs !!

cupofcoffee
07-06-2011, 01:17 PM
Currymee and Cikgu Fong,

Thank you for the enlightening views :)

currymee
08-06-2011, 08:37 AM
Currymee,

As an ex-HM, I can say that what the KL SJKC teachers told you are not at all surprising :( In fact, if they were to mention otherwise, then I would say, they are lying through their teeth.

It is sad for me to note the rapidly declining standards of Malaysia's education in ALL aspects/subjects and not just in English (which suffered the most). What happened ? The answer is simple - when teaching profession was "devalued" by an ever-materialistic society and the cream and best of society does not become public educators but capitalist instead - this is the consequence of "you reap what you sow" ....

In Malaysia's case, you add political meddling, over-zealous nationalistic and religious drive - the end result is a screwed-up education syllabus, teachers and flip-flop policies.

For Malaysia to revert to the old standard of the 1960s and 70s is now an impossibility unless there is a MAJOR OVERHAUL in making EDUCATION INDEPENDENT OF POLITICS and for society to start valuing teaching as a NOBLE and HONOURABLE profession beyond monetary gain. Can we do these things ? I would say, "NO" in the current climate and societal values.

Today's cohorts of teachers are those that cannot get a better job after graduation, they are no longer the smartest and brightest.

Perhaps, all the new JPA scholarships should only be given to those who are willing to be teachers then you may get the cream again !! - a radical solution ? ;) Maybe that is what Malaysia needs !!

Cikgu Fong,

Spot on !! I have also reached similar conclusions on the causes of the decline in Malaysian education - too much politics :mad: :mad: I think the post of Minister of Education should be abolished and be replaced by an INDEPENDENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS that is answerable to a ROYAL COMMISSION :) - the nation's future is at stake ! (another radical idea :rolleyes: )

I like your radical idea on JPA scholarships :) - actually, JPA scholars are supposed to come back and serve (bonded for a number of years) and what I heard now is that MAJORITY don't do so ... so it has become FREE MONEY !!

currymee
08-06-2011, 09:00 AM
Online BM and English "Home-school" threads ?

After much thought and pondering, I have decided to start 2 new threads (soon) - one for BM and one for English for parents to discuss and share on "home-school"/tutor for our kids.

I am not sure how it will work just yet but more brains and ideas will HOPEFULLY make the learning easier and simpler .... we don't have to "suffer" alone ;) - (Note: I just got a PM from a parent asking me how it will work ? - well, honestly, I am still thinking about it !! :p - "nothing ventured nothing gained - if you don't try you will not succeed " is my motto ;) )

Perhaps, we can "persuade" some BM and English teachers who are online forumers to also "pro-bono" some lessons every now and then :D

maxout
08-06-2011, 11:22 AM
Online BM and English "Home-school" threads ?

After much thought and pondering, I have decided to start 2 new threads (soon) - one for BM and one for English for parents to discuss and share on "home-school"/tutor for our kids.

I am not sure how it will work just yet but more brains and ideas will HOPEFULLY make the learning easier and simpler .... we don't have to "suffer" alone ;) - (Note: I just got a PM from a parent asking me how it will work ? - well, honestly, I am still thinking about it !! :p - "nothing ventured nothing gained - if you don't try you will not succeed " is my motto ;) )

Perhaps, we can "persuade" some BM and English teachers who are online forumers to also "pro-bono" some lessons every now and then :D

CM,

Firstly, let me say thank you for all your efforts to date. Most parents here are appreciative of your dedication and focus to education especially those of us who are lucky to have children in the same standard in Lick Hung as your son.

I am one of the regular followers but not so regular contributor to this forum.

However, on the above topic on starting new online tuition threads, I feel that I have to say something so that you will not be too disappointed and disheartened later on.

Personally, I have my doubts that the online tuition threads will be successful because:

1) Time consuming

2) Copyright issues - if you take materials from existing publishers

3) "One-way traffic" - you may find that everyone will be waiting to "take" from you and share/give nothing back. I am sorry to say this but it is a REALITY esp of "kiasu" parents. I noted that the reason why this Lick Hung forum has persisted longer than other school ones is because of your continued commitment to give and share, while others just take. Can you continue to give unselfishly also on BM and English threads ? I really do not want to see you getting disappointed when that happens.

Hence, I think it is best that you just share materials, ideas and concepts on home-tutoring on English and BM instead. Furthermore, I doubt most parents will have the time and dedication to home teach and tutor their children - most will just send them for extra classes and do more workbooks.

My 2 cents. Sorry to be so negative but I rather tell you now than to see you get disheartened later. :)

Rhiga
08-06-2011, 03:50 PM
CM,

I am one of the regular followers but not so regular contributor to this forum.

However, on the above topic on starting new online tuition threads, I feel that I have to say something so that you will not be too disappointed and disheartened later on.

Personally, I have my doubts that the online tuition threads will be successful because:

1) Time consuming

2) Copyright issues - if you take materials from existing publishers

3) "One-way traffic" - you may find that everyone will be waiting to "take" from you and share/give nothing back. I am sorry to say this but it is a REALITY esp of "kiasu" parents. I noted that the reason why this Lick Hung forum has persisted longer than other school ones is because of your continued commitment to give and share, while others just take. Can you continue to give unselfishly also on BM and English threads ? I really do not want to see you getting disappointed when that happens.Hence, I think it is best that you just share materials, ideas and concepts on home-tutoring on English and BM instead. Furthermore, I doubt most parents will have the time and dedication to home teach and tutor their children - most will just send them for extra classes and do more workbooks.

My 2 cents. Sorry to be so negative but I rather tell you now than to see you get disheartened later. :)

Sorry if I sound negative to your advice to Currymee…

Honestly, I don’t see any problem or issue if Currymee wanted to start an online thread on BM/English tuition..

Even if there are issues, he will think of the solution and/or the moderator will intervene to prevent/minimize the possible consequences..

From my conversation with other parents and from the replies/posts on this thread, many parents would like to teach the kids themselves instead of sending them to tuition center, myself included.

No time to teach is a plain excuse (with the exception of working parents with no old folks at home and for this case, it is day care more than academic tuition). The time required to send and fetch them from tuition center can be better utilize to teach them.

And for your point #(3), pls speak for yourself, unless you think you represent "everyone"..

currymee
09-06-2011, 08:12 AM
Bro Saga and maxout,

I will take note of both your advices. I do see the points that both of you have raised :) :)

I did not respond yesterday as I was tinkering with the idea as to how to them work. I noted that the scope of learning both languages cover the whole span of education from pre-school up to university (and beyond :eek: ) and not just limited to Lick Hung ...

RIght now, I am inclined to start of with Q&A (that always work :) ), list of materials and methodologies (like what maxout suggestted) before moving on further.

Yes, I am aware of copyright issues and that can be a stumbling block to what I have in mind. Initially what I planned was a series of exercises that the kids can practise to honed in on finer points of the languages, but I noted that some of the material eg. passages are copyrighted, so I have to think of a work-around ;)

So, WIP ... work in progress ... ANY IDEAS WILL BE WELCOMED - more brains make lighter work !! :)

NOTE: A key element in my home-school ideas is TO READ with the kids and enhance their vocabularies in BM and English. It doesn't work as effectively IF you expect the kids to read on their own silently - then you will not know if they understand, pronounce properly etc ... SO BE PREPARED TO PUT ASIDE 30 MINUTES DAILY ...

currymee
09-06-2011, 09:38 AM
Online BM and English "Home-school" threads ?

After much thought and pondering, I have decided to start 2 new threads (soon) - one for BM and one for English for parents to discuss and share on "home-school"/tutor for our kids.

I am not sure how it will work just yet but more brains and ideas will HOPEFULLY make the learning easier and simpler .... we don't have to "suffer" alone ;) - (Note: I just got a PM from a parent asking me how it will work ? - well, honestly, I am still thinking about it !! :p - "nothing ventured nothing gained - if you don't try you will not succeed " is my motto ;) )

Perhaps, we can "persuade" some BM and English teachers who are online forumers to also "pro-bono" some lessons every now and then :D

I have started :)

For ENGLISH: http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=33114

For BM: http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=33113

currymee
09-06-2011, 03:31 PM
I have started :)

For ENGLISH: http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=33114

For BM: http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=33113

I have recommended one of the best series of ENGLISH books applicable all the way to FORM 5 :D :D - I know I have used them before .... long long time ago !! :p :p

I got "A1" all the way :) I was so happy to find them AGAIN a couple of months ago.

currymee
10-06-2011, 07:45 AM
My 1,000th post on this forum/thread !! :)

What a milestone :) !! (or what a blabber mouth :eek: :o :D !! )

I will share a secret for helping kids to do well in studies - I have tried it and it works as I can see the progress in my son.

READ ALOUD (he/she reads, you listen), EXPLAIN NEW WORDS/ VOCABULARY .... DAILY for 30 minutes .... (just like taking oats :rolleyes:
!!)

Our kids today are not dumb/stupid/"choon" - they just LACK READING TIME AND VOCABULARY due to over-exposure on TV, computer games etc .... and in the exams, it is all reading and writing, so go figure the diconnect between TV, computer games and exam papers ....

Oh ! Don't try those fancy (expensive) educational software as well (fad and trends) - IMHO, they don't work - NOTHING REPLACES READING ... you can read hardcopy (books) or softcopy (digital ebooks) BUT it is still READING and ENHANCING VOCABULARY ... not clicking buttons or pushing mouse ....

My 1,000th cents :p

currymee
10-06-2011, 09:44 AM
I am off for Cherating (after all) :rolleyes: in the next hour :) - we decided for one more short holiday before school reopens :D :D

Sad to note, the next Lick Hung exams is ONE MONTH from school reopens ... here we go again :(

maxout
10-06-2011, 01:42 PM
Sorry if I sound negative to your advice to Currymee…

Honestly, I don’t see any problem or issue if Currymee wanted to start an online thread on BM/English tuition..

Even if there are issues, he will think of the solution and/or the moderator will intervene to prevent/minimize the possible consequences..

From my conversation with other parents and from the replies/posts on this thread, many parents would like to teach the kids themselves instead of sending them to tuition center, myself included.

No time to teach is a plain excuse (with the exception of working parents with no old folks at home and for this case, it is day care more than academic tuition). The time required to send and fetch them from tuition center can be better utilize to teach them.

And for your point #(3), pls speak for yourself, unless you think you represent "everyone"..

Sagamihara,

All points noted and my apologies for the general sweeping statement regarding "everyone" as "kiasu" :o

Currymee,

I am glad that you have considered what I mentioned and have decided to pursue ahead with the BM and English home-tuition threads. You have my full support as well as and when I am able to contribute :) - and HAPPY HOLIDAYS, don't forget to go and see the turtles at night !! Now is the season for turtle egg-laying in East Coast !! :D

fongkimseng
12-06-2011, 08:34 AM
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Currymee,

I am glad that you have considered what I mentioned and have decided to pursue ahead with the BM and English home-tuition threads. You have my full support as well as and when I am able to contribute :) - and HAPPY HOLIDAYS, don't forget to go and see the turtles at night !! Now is the season for turtle egg-laying in East Coast !! :D

Yes, it will be a GREAT experience for the children :)

currymee
13-06-2011, 07:54 AM
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Currymee,

I am glad that you have considered what I mentioned and have decided to pursue ahead with the BM and English home-tuition threads. You have my full support as well as and when I am able to contribute :) - and HAPPY HOLIDAYS, don't forget to go and see the turtles at night !! Now is the season for turtle egg-laying in East Coast !! :D



Yes, it will be a GREAT experience for the children :)

We managed to see a big group of turtles (about 5-6) landing and laying eggs on Friday evening when we got there - fantastic start of the short break !! :D :D

Yup, my son was thrilled and still cannot stop talking about the experience !! ;)

currymee
13-06-2011, 08:15 AM
2nd term starts today

DING ! DING ! (sounds the boxing bell) .... here we go again ...

Next exam is on .... 18th July 2011 about one month from now ... :(

currymee
13-06-2011, 11:15 AM
"Old method" of learning - "Copy Back"

I called it an "old method" because with the advent of workbooks in school, the children are doing less and less copy-back learning. I define "copy back" as the students have to copy the questions as well as answer the questions in the school exercise books - they have to write down the FULL questions and then answer the questions. This was the method that I was taught back in the 1970s when workbook was scarce and good quality textbooks ruled supreme. (I am in the process of getting all these good "old" textbooks - I found most of them in Singapore esp English :eek: !!)

While using workbook is helpful in terms of QUANTITY, CONVENIENCE and TIME SAVING i.e. the teachers can cover more topics and faster. However, IMHO, it is less effective and less useful than "copy back" in terms of promoting writing skills, comprehension and understanding. Hence, lack of QUALITY learning, where you end up doing more but learning less :eek: :eek: - "waste more time, money and energy" but publishers and bookshops get richer !!

Realising this fact, I have decided to re-adopt the "copy-back" method for home tutoring in BM and English. With "copy-back", hopefully I only need to teach my child a few questions per topic, but he should gain in 3 areas simultaneously - improve writing and sentence construction, comprehension/grammar and vocabulary practise.

It is more than just "fill in the blanks" and "circle the correct answer" :)

This is just my point of view :)

NOTE: WARNING !! The children will think you are crazy for asking them to study this "old" way and complain endlessly with 101 excuses !! :p I know coz my son did and is still doing so ....

Mommy
13-06-2011, 01:31 PM
"Old method" of learning - "Copy Back"

I called it an "old method" because with the advent of workbooks in school, the children are doing less and less copy-back learning. I define "copy back" as the students have to copy the questions as well as answer the questions ...........................hese good "old" textbooks - I found most of them in Singapore esp English :eek: !!)

While using workbook is helpful in terms of QUANTITY, CONVENIENCE and TIME SAVING i.e. the teachers can cover more topics and faster. However, IMHO, it is.................................ers and bookshops get richer !!

Realising this fact, I have decided to re-adopt the "copy-back" method for home tutoring in BM and English. With "copy-back", hopefully I only need to teach my child a few questions per topic, but he should gain in 3 areas simultaneously - improve writing and sentence construction, comprehension/grammar and vocabulary practise.

It is more than just "fill in the blanks" and "circle the correct answer" :)

This is just my point of view :)

NOTE: WARNING !! The children will think you are crazy for asking them to study this "old" way and complain endlessly with 101 excuses !! :p I know coz my son did and is still doing so ....

Actually, this is very true esp for maths. While copying, it force them to read and understand the question, so it trained them to immediately answer the question once they have complete the question.

currymee
13-06-2011, 05:29 PM
Actually, this is very true esp for maths. While copying, it force them to read and understand the question, so it trained them to immediately answer the question once they have complete the question.

Well, I did not think of it that way but I guess it works that way too - another added benefit :D :D :D

cupofcoffee
14-06-2011, 06:56 AM
"Old method" of learning - "Copy Back"

I called it an "old method" because with the advent of workbooks in school, the children are doing less and less copy-back learning. I define "copy back" as the students have to copy the questions as well as answer the questions in the school exercise books - they have to write down the FULL questions and then answer the questions. This was the method that I was taught back in the 1970s when workbook was scarce and good quality textbooks ruled supreme. (I am in the process of getting all these good "old" textbooks - I found most of them in Singapore esp English :eek: !!)

While using workbook is helpful in terms of QUANTITY, CONVENIENCE and TIME SAVING i.e. the teachers can cover more topics and faster. However, IMHO, it is less effective and less useful than "copy back" in terms of promoting writing skills, comprehension and understanding. Hence, lack of QUALITY learning, where you end up doing more but learning less :eek: :eek: - "waste more time, money and energy" but publishers and bookshops get richer !!

Realising this fact, I have decided to re-adopt the "copy-back" method for home tutoring in BM and English. With "copy-back", hopefully I only need to teach my child a few questions per topic, but he should gain in 3 areas simultaneously - improve writing and sentence construction, comprehension/grammar and vocabulary practise.

It is more than just "fill in the blanks" and "circle the correct answer" :)

This is just my point of view :)

NOTE: WARNING !! The children will think you are crazy for asking them to study this "old" way and complain endlessly with 101 excuses !! :p I know coz my son did and is still doing so ....

I have totally forgotten about this method. All I remember from the past is that it can be very tiresome and tedious. :p Workbooks are like a blessing in terms of efficiency but I do see the point of workbooks being "less effective".

Perhaps, it is worth giving it a try and see :)

cupofcoffee
14-06-2011, 08:03 AM
We managed to see a big group of turtles (about 5-6) landing and laying eggs on Friday evening when we got there - fantastic start of the short break !! :D :D

Yup, my son was thrilled and still cannot stop talking about the experience !! ;)

You are very lucky !! :) :)

currymee
14-06-2011, 08:49 AM
Class Photo - RM3 each

My son just woke up and reminded me to give him RM3 per photo to purchase his class photo.

So, don't forget if you want your children to buy also. :)

Mommy
14-06-2011, 09:22 AM
Son is complaining no friends in school. Not sure if any parents having kids with this problem.

currymee
14-06-2011, 10:35 AM
Son is complaining no friends in school. Not sure if any parents having kids with this problem.

Just curious, does he mix with his classmates during recess or he eats alone ?

Does he take part in school activities or the physical exercise lessons ?

Children usually make friends during PLAY, so if your son is the studious and quiet type, he may not be mixing enough with the rest, hence, the feeling of no friends ... You may need to "allocate" some time for PLAY or encourage him to play with the others.

I usually encourage my son to play with his friends in school BUT not during class lessons - they can play before class, during recess and after school :)

currymee
14-06-2011, 03:32 PM
Reading "Tricks" - using workbooks instead of storybooks

(This post is extracted from the BM tuition thread)

One method I want to share is that INSTEAD of using storybooks (like what most pople will recommend), I actually use the passages in the comprehension/penulisan workbooks for reading !! :D - they are short (200-400 words), relevant to their school topics, at the correct level, follow syllabus etc ... so kind of killing many birds with ONE passage story per day ... hence, one day, my son will read about kite flying, next day, on CNY, next on holiday the beach etc etc ... all done in 10-15 minutes - slow reading but plenty of explanation esp vocabulary and sentence comprehension - most of the 30 minutes daily are spent here !! ;) Then, he only answer the 5-10 questions after reading.

This way, I build up his desire for reading and knowledge acquisition without "forcing" or "torturing" through storybooks which they may find boring and long after 2-3 pages .... I "wasted" a lot of money on storybooks before I chanced upon this method and now, it works wonders, every day my son eagerly look forward to reading the next short story in BM and English, and for example, using the Buku Rampaian, I get around 40 stories for RM3.50 - cheap and interesting !! :D :D (even I am interested !!) :o :p

currymee
14-06-2011, 03:45 PM
BTW, I got a couple of forumers while thanking me for sharing the ideas, concepts and methods on BM and English tuition (you guys are welcome!! :D ) but also curious and wanted to ask why I am sharing all these and wouldn't I be worried that my son's advantage in studying be diminished if everyone knows the techniques ....

Well, the best analogy I can share is every football club knows how to play football, same coaching method, diet, style ... 4-4-2, 4-3-3, etc ... but each player and each coach/manager is unique ... hence the outcome will be different for everyone .... my son is unique with all his strengths and weaknesses and I am his coach with all my strength and weaknesses ... we will be different from others ... sometimes better, sometimes not ...

Since they are refering to Lick Hung's exams, well, like I said before, I set my own targets and goals for my son, coming 1st, 2nd or 3rd in class is not one of them (but it will be nice/bonus if he can do it :D ). Consistently performing well and understanding the materials being tested are the goals ;) !! Lick Hung exams are checkpoints for his long term progress.

I am changing the "rules of the game" as I believe if I follow the normal rules, my children's long term future will suffer for short-term gains .... one of my goal is that he will have a mastery and fluency of English comparable to the best in Singapore and other English-speaking countries by the time he enters university while going through the Malaysian education system with all its flaws and disadvantages in learning English ....

Sorry, son but daddy does not believe in international/private school !! I think they are more of a commercial rip-off seizing on the fears of parents of a poor education for the kids. There are shortcomings of Malaysian education, no doubt and it has more to do with the declining command of ENGLISH than anything else ... declining English results in less exposure .... so address the root cause, IMHO !!

Rhiga
14-06-2011, 04:08 PM
I am changing the "rules of the game" as I believe if I follow the normal rules, my children's long term future will suffer for short-term gains .... one of my goal is that he will have a mastery and fluency of English comparable to the best in Singapore and other English-speaking countries by the time he enters university while going through the Malaysian education system with all its flaws and disadvantages in learning English ....

Sorry, son but daddy does not believe in international/private school !! I think they are more of a commercial rip-off seizing on the fears of parents of a poor education for the kids. There are shortcomings of Malaysian education, no doubt and it has more to do with the declining command of ENGLISH than anything else ... declining English results in less exposure .... so address the root cause, IMHO !!

Well said, Bro..

May I add a point.

Mastery and fluency in English is one critical element.

Self-confidence, interpersonal skills, oral communication skills and co-curriculum exposure, etc are essential elements as well..

A more-balanced school environment is crucial, and I doubt SK is the right place.

Cheers

currymee
15-06-2011, 07:45 AM
LONG TERM IMPROVEMENT - not instant cure !!

For those parents that may be considering or thinking about home-tutoring in BM and English based on some of the materials/methods that I have mentioned - please take note that the improvements and results will not come instantly and fast- it will come within 6-9 months later :eek: (depending on your child's existing foundation). So, don't expect to start today and see great results by Lick Hung's next exams - there is usually a transition period for the facts/lessons to set in and take root.

From what I have heard, most BM and English tuition classes in SJ/USJ are geared towards exams hence a lot of practice with past year papers etc ... which is good for short-term. What I am proposing here is to learn/study and MASTER BM and English for the long term future. So, there is a "transistion" period before the fruits of the hard-work kicks in.

currymee
15-06-2011, 09:05 AM
Reading "Tricks" - using workbooks instead of storybooks

(This post is extracted from the BM tuition thread)

One method I want to share is that INSTEAD of using storybooks (like what most pople will recommend), I actually use the passages in the comprehension/penulisan workbooks for reading !! :D - they are short (200-400 words), relevant to their school topics, at the correct level, follow syllabus etc ... so kind of killing many birds with ONE passage story per day ... hence, one day, my son will read about kite flying, next day, on CNY, next on holiday the beach etc etc ... all done in 10-15 minutes - slow reading but plenty of explanation esp vocabulary and sentence comprehension - most of the 30 minutes daily are spent here !! ;) Then, he only answer the 5-10 questions after reading.

This way, I build up his desire for reading and knowledge acquisition without "forcing" or "torturing" through storybooks which they may find boring and long after 2-3 pages .... I "wasted" a lot of money on storybooks before I chanced upon this method and now, it works wonders, every day my son eagerly look forward to reading the next short story in BM and English, and for example, using the Buku Rampaian, I get around 40 stories for RM3.50 - cheap and interesting !! :D :D (even I am interested !!) :o :p


OK, I got a PM asking me why is the choice of reading material so school-focused ?

Like I said ealier, I am trying to "kill as many birds with ONE reading". Unless your child is brought up to enjoy reading more than 10 pages, I think most children esp BOYS don't have the "stamina" and "attention span" of more than 2-3 pages before they start to put the books away and do something else ... ok, I am speaking based on my own children here ;)

Haven't you notice that girls mostly read while boys browse ? Try and go to MPH/Popular and see how girls are sitting on the floor reading ONE book at a time and look at the boys, probably with a stack and browsing quickly through .... and changing books every 5 minutes UNLESS it is BEN-10, ACTION-PACK, DINOSAURS, comics i.e. mostly graphical .... !!

I am just tapping and adjusting to the BOYS' natural tendencies (since my children are boys !! :p ) - so, the method I propose may need to be tweaked for girls .... (my apologies, no experience in raising girls !) :o Perhaps, other parents may be able to share and contribute their views here.

Boys like to skip and change to different and "interesting" stories rather than systematically going from chapter to chapter - my MAIN aim is to get him to READ, so I "optimise/capitalise" on this tendency rather than forcing him to a regimented flow (at this current stage and age) .... in time, he will start to follow through once I get the READING habit rooted down .... :D

currymee
15-06-2011, 03:42 PM
I got another PM telling me that she feels sorry for my son for having to study DAILY !!

Alamak !!! :eek: :( Do I sound like an over-demanding parent ? :eek: BATTLE-CRY OF THE DRAGON FATHER ?? :D :D

All I can say is that my son is studying only 2 hours per day (just like if I am sending him for tuition) - 30mins for each subject - BM, English, Mandarin and non-languages (alternate between Maths, Science and Moral).

One hour and half in the morning before school and extra 30 minutes in evening after homework.

He actually has 3 hours for TV and games daily .... :eek:

NOTE: I actually persuaded my son that it is better to study daily in small amounts than to cram a week or so like mad before exams ... and he agrees with the arrangement/logic ...

Rhiga
15-06-2011, 04:18 PM
I got another PM telling me that she feels sorry for my son for having to study DAILY !!

Alamak !!! :eek: :( Do I sound like an over-demanding parent ? :eek: BATTLE-CRY OF THE DRAGON FATHER ?? :D :D

All I can say is that my son is studying only 2 hours per day (just like if I am sending him for tuition) - 30mins for each subject - BM, English, Mandarin and non-languages (alternate between Maths, Science and Moral).

One hour and half in the morning before school and extra 30 minutes in evening after homework.

He actually has 3 hours for TV and games daily .... :eek:

NOTE: I actually persuaded my son that it is better to study daily in small amounts than to cram a week or so like mad before exams ... and he agrees with the arrangement/logic ...

Not sure whether this parent read the book of “Tiger Mum” from US… :eek:

The key is – everyone has responsibility in different phase of life, kids included.

Kids must know and understand what are their responsibility as a student. The art to let them understand and agree to the responsibility can be very different – from the extreme of the “tiger mum” to the parent who feel sorry for a kid who study daily.

Seriously and honestly, what’s else a kid should do in the house after coming back from school during weekday

Balance the studies with the things they enjoy, like your case, tv and games..

cupofcoffee
16-06-2011, 08:09 AM
Not sure whether this parent read the book of “Tiger Mum” from US… :eek:

The key is – everyone has responsibility in different phase of life, kids included.

Kids must know and understand what are their responsibility as a student. The art to let them understand and agree to the responsibility can be very different – from the extreme of the “tiger mum” to the parent who feel sorry for a kid who study daily.

Seriously and honestly, what’s else a kid should do in the house after coming back from school during weekday

Balance the studies with the things they enjoy, like your case, tv and games..

I do agree that PROPER BALANCE is the key here :) .... too much of one extreme is just as bad as the other. :(

cupofcoffee
16-06-2011, 08:14 AM
LONG TERM IMPROVEMENT - not instant cure !!

For those parents that may be considering or thinking about home-tutoring in BM and English based on some of the materials/methods that I have mentioned - please take note that the improvements and results will not come instantly and fast- it will come within 6-9 months later :eek: (depending on your child's existing foundation). So, don't expect to start today and see great results by Lick Hung's next exams - there is usually a transition period for the facts/lessons to set in and take root.

From what I have heard, most BM and English tuition classes in SJ/USJ are geared towards exams hence a lot of practice with past year papers etc ... which is good for short-term. What I am proposing here is to learn/study and MASTER BM and English for the long term future. So, there is a "transistion" period before the fruits of the hard-work kicks in.

Noted with thanks :)

currymee
16-06-2011, 10:57 AM
Aiyo .... parents (forumers), please post your questions instead of just private messaging (PM) me. Share share a bit lah ... don't want this forum to be only currymee asking and answering questions ... can or not ? :) Nobody will "bite" if you express a different opinion, point of view or ask a simple question ....

Ok, another PM asking : In ref to my statement - "NOTE: I actually persuaded my son that it is better to study daily in small amounts than to cram a week or so like mad before exams ... and he agrees with the arrangement/logic ... " - question was - How did I persuade him ?

I don't want this scenario to befall any of the children but my son did poorly in Std 1 esp in the first term (Bs and Cs) until I was questioned by the teacher during report card collection as to what is going on. He agreed then that it was not good and the reason was that he did not know how to read .... (I allowed him to REALLY PLAY during his 2 years of Tadika :o :p ).

So, I told him, we have to start to remedy this and we (the parents) will work with him on overcoming the lack of reading by doing 30 minutes daily .... so as he improves over the year, his motivation becomes stronger and stronger .... so is his discipline .... we just build on top of that.

It took a VERY BAD FALL and realisation at the start before he starts to climb up slowly .... still WORK IN PROGRESS ;)

akiyoshi
16-06-2011, 12:10 PM
currymee,

Thanks for putting in so much contribution to this forum with many threads.
After reading your posts, even parents are inspired to want to do more !

I think it is not just the kid, the parent also must be disciplined enough to want to spend time going through with him. For that, I TABIK to you !!

currymee
16-06-2011, 02:25 PM
currymee,

Thanks for putting in so much contribution to this forum with many threads.
After reading your posts, even parents are inspired to want to do more !

I think it is not just the kid, the parent also must be disciplined enough to want to spend time going through with him. For that, I TABIK to you !!

You are welcome ! :) I hope you find them useful - just remember, it is hard work and there is no short-cut UNLESS you dare to mess up the kids !! :eek:

currymee
16-06-2011, 03:08 PM
SJKC Lick Hung and Malaysian education SWOTs (based on currymee's analysis)

In the process of assisting my son to improve his studies, I also did a number of SWOTs (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats) analysis on Lick Hung, Malaysian education system, books, etc .... (note: the conclusions are all derived from my perspective as a parent and not an educator)

Overall, Lick Hung (and most SJKCs) is very good and strong esp in teaching Maths, Science and Chinese. For these subjects, I can safely say the school teachers are doing an excellent job - no worries and complains from me.

(Note: I am not a strong supporter of teaching Science and Maths in English IF the teachers cannot teach these subjects well. I rather the teachers teach the kids with a ROCK SOLID FOUNDATION in Science and Maths than to attempt half-baked teaching in English.

I will tackle English as a separate subject than to have it all mixed up and screwed up then we all end up with THREE weaknesses rather than just ONE !! :eek: )

IMHO, Lick Hung's weaknesses are in BM and English (I think this has been a problem with SJKCs since the "dinosaurs", so LH is no exception ... :rolleyes: :p ). I noted that in Lick Hung's case, it is more due to poor syllabus and time constraint (too little contact hour) :( rather than teachers' competency :)

I feel that parents who place strong emphasis on these languages should take heed of this as I project that the situation will get worse as the years go by :( :( .... If you plan to home-tutor or send the kids for tuition, do so as early as possible, the longer you delay, the worse, the situation will become. I advocate home-tuition because I found that it is not difficult and you can actually teach them easily using some of the books that I have found. TIME MANAGEMENT is key and doing in small daily doses is the best approach.

As for the Malaysian education system, it is basically "messed up" by the politics :mad: . Thankfully, the basic sciences and mathematics foundation (obtained from SJKCs) should stay with the kids in good stead as they progress to the pure sciences and advance mathematics. By then, parents should take note to find good teachers or references to self-teach or guide them.

currymee
16-06-2011, 04:50 PM
Parents,

I am concluding the current discussions on home-tuition here and get our focus back on Lick Hung :D We already have threads specifically for BM and English, so we can continue there :)

Just do your very best in teaching the children :) - different people have different commitments and circumstances.

In my case, I made it a concious effort and point to place the kids first and my career into part-time mode, others may not be so fortunate to be able to afford to do that even if they so desire.

Just try your best !! :) :)

aerobax
17-06-2011, 08:01 AM
Parents,

I am concluding the current discussions on home-tuition here and get our focus back on Lick Hung :D We already have threads specifically for BM and English, so we can continue there :)

Just do your very best in teaching the children :) - different people have different commitments and circumstances.

In my case, I made it a concious effort and point to place the kids first and my career into part-time mode, others may not be so fortunate to be able to afford to do that even if they so desire.

Just try your best !! :) :)

CM,

I read your "narrated story" post on your most "valuable assets" before you deleted it and replaced with this one. ;) Why ? :confused: I thought it was a good moral story although some may not agree with the line of reasoning, it is still a good point of view.

Anyway, thank you for all that you have written in the last few days on home-tuition, like what Akiyoshi has said, it has inspired some parents to try and not despair esp those with childen who are not doing well can take heart with the example of how you coach your son.

Your selection of syllabuses, materials and methods are very interesting and worth exploring :)

aerobax
17-06-2011, 08:10 AM
SJKC Lick Hung and Malaysian education SWOTs (based on currymee's analysis)

In the process of assisting my son to improve his studies, I also did a number of SWOTs (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats) analysis on Lick Hung, Malaysian education system, books, etc .... (note: the conclusions are all derived from my perspective as a parent and not an educator)

Overall, Lick Hung (and most SJKCs) is very good and strong esp in teaching Maths, Science and Chinese. For these subjects, I can safely say the school teachers are doing an excellent job - no worries and complains from me.

(Note: I am not a strong supporter of teaching Science and Maths in English IF the teachers cannot teach these subjects well. I rather the teachers teach the kids with a ROCK SOLID FOUNDATION in Science and Maths than to attempt half-baked teaching in English.

I will tackle English as a separate subject than to have it all mixed up and screwed up then we all end up with THREE weaknesses rather than just ONE !! :eek: )

IMHO, Lick Hung's weaknesses are in BM and English (I think this has been a problem with SJKCs since the "dinosaurs", so LH is no exception ... :rolleyes: :p ). I noted that in Lick Hung's case, it is more due to poor syllabus and time constraint (too little contact hour) :( rather than teachers' competency :)

I feel that parents who place strong emphasis on these languages should take heed of this as I project that the situation will get worse as the years go by :( :( .... If you plan to home-tutor or send the kids for tuition, do so as early as possible, the longer you delay, the worse, the situation will become. I advocate home-tuition because I found that it is not difficult and you can actually teach them easily using some of the books that I have found. TIME MANAGEMENT is key and doing in small daily doses is the best approach.

As for the Malaysian education system, it is basically "messed up" by the politics :mad: . Thankfully, the basic sciences and mathematics foundation (obtained from SJKCs) should stay with the kids in good stead as they progress to the pure sciences and advance mathematics. By then, parents should take note to find good teachers or references to self-teach or guide them.

Can the school do something to overcome the BM and English weaknesses ? :confused: Perhaps give extra classes and use better books/syllabus ? :confused:

currymee
17-06-2011, 08:46 AM
CM,

I read your "narrated story" post on your most "valuable assets" before you deleted it and replaced with this one. ;) Why ? :confused: I thought it was a good moral story although some may not agree with the line of reasoning, it is still a good point of view.

....

I thought no-one has read it :eek: :o Like what you said yourself ... although some may not agree with the line of reasoning ... after writing, I had second thoughts that some people may take offence to it, so best not to do so .... ;)

currymee
17-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Can the school do something to overcome the BM and English weaknesses ? :confused: Perhaps give extra classes and use better books/syllabus ? :confused:

This one is a proposal for the PIBG, I think I have talked about it before in earlier posts. If I am not mistaken, the school will start to prepare the kids in the upper standards for UPSR BM and English.

My point of contention is whether are the parents just happy for the kids to get UPSR-level BM and English and later on PMR and SPM levels? After finding out that at these Malaysian levels, we are ridiculously bad/poor compared to others for the global marketplace and future, I give up on the Malaysian syllabuses for English.

FYI, even the Singapore publisher (their English editors) appraise the SPM level English as equivalent to Primary 6 in Singapore :eek: :eek: The same publisher appraised both countries as equal back in the 1970s, so ..... I don't think Singapore has improved (since the texbook has remained essentially the same !!) but more like Malaysia has gone on a free-fall .... :(

currymee
17-06-2011, 09:38 AM
No Parents Report-Card Collection this time

I was told by one of the mothers (daughter in another class) yesterday that her class teacher mentioned that they will be given the report-card in the next couple of days (maybe today !!) and that parents need not come to collect like last year.

I asked my son and his class friends - BLUR SOTONG faces ... :o :o :o

fRaNkY
17-06-2011, 11:31 AM
If you see lots of cars in the car park tomorrow, dont think they are working hard :D

The school have a trip to Raub with the kids! :D

currymee
17-06-2011, 03:15 PM
Extracted from Teaching Science and Mathematics thread:


Teaching of science and maths in English or Mandarin or BM makes no different.
There are so many languages in the world.
The important thing is whether the students understand the content or not. Usually it would be easy for young students to undertand if it is taught by their mother tongue.

100% agree - this was what I was told by the teachers as well - it is easier and better for them to teach ScM in Mandarin as they are more fluent and can do it better - I just hope Lick Hung will stop wasting precious time periods to continue teaching ScM in English - just switch over and be done with it, the extra periods can be freed up to teach PROPER ENGLISH !! :)

currymee
17-06-2011, 03:53 PM
If you see lots of cars in the car park tomorrow, dont think they are working hard :D

The school have a trip to Raub with the kids! :D

Wow :eek: - the kids' extra-curriculum activities for the new term also restart tomorrow - the Taekwando, Karate, Wudo etc are all held in the school car park ??????? :confused: :confused: Got enough space ?

currymee
17-06-2011, 04:52 PM
Extracted from Teaching Science and Mathematics thread:



100% agree - this was what I was told by the teachers as well - it is easier and better for them to teach ScM in Mandarin as they are more fluent and can do it better - I just hope Lick Hung will stop wasting precious time periods to continue teaching ScM in English - just switch over and be done with it, the extra periods can be freed up to teach PROPER ENGLISH !! :)


On the same topic, once the Cabinet "allows" individual school's PIBG to decide on Science and Mathematics in English or Mandarin, I do think that Lick Hung's PIBG should call for either an EGM (special meeting) or ballot postal (hand delivered via the children to parents) votes to settle this issue.

My 2 cents and I know the HM and PIBG committee are reading, so please take note - thank you :) Hope you all can communicate on this issue well.

currymee
20-06-2011, 08:15 AM
Don't compare too much, don't stress the kids and YOURSELF too much ... :(

Parents,

I know it is a habit and part of today's competitive lifesytle and nature :( .

However, if you can refrain, do try to refrain from making DIRECT comparison on how the kids achieved in school exams with other parents. Why ? IMHO ...

1) Kids and you will sleep better - less stressful and tearful if results are not as expected. Kids know if they do well or not, don't have to drill it in/nag too much ... just enough to spur extra efforts and realisation to try harder next time should suffice. The problem is that there is a danger if the kids keep getting nagged and over-done, they will become "tidak apa", "bo-chap" then worse ...

2) Kids will have less REAL friends. You may not realise it but whenever you mentioned another friend's name in higher achievement, that friend goes down in their "internal" ranking in the friend category i.e. this "friend" makes me look bad .... sooner or later, your child will end up with less and less of the "studious/examplary" friends coz he will start to shun them away ...

3) Teach the kids to measure their achievements against their OWN SET targets and reward them accordingly. It is difficult to do so because it takes maturity but do try .... I set for my son a set of targets and there is a reward for each target met .... there is ONLY one target for "competition", i.e. get into top 10 in class, but anywhere in the top 10 will do, so whether it is 1, 5 or 9 still carries the same value, this is for him to learn that the REAL WORLD is competitive but more importantly, I place more emphasis on his PERSONAL targets.

The personal targets (non-competitive), like getting above average of 85%, getting above 90% for Maths, get above 80% for English, .... etc .... of course, I told him, should he get a 100% in any subject, TRIPLE BONUS !! :D - this one is to spur "ambition"/"greed" a bit .... :rolleyes:

4) Less parental stress on yourself ... watch the blood pressure, cholesterol etc .... :eek: We are not in our early 20s ok .... ;)

Why did I mention this today ? Well, report cards were given back last Friday and over the weekend during school co-curriculum activities and at coffeeshops, I saw and overheard a few parents talking/complaining/nagging their kids with other parents .... I just look at the kids' faces and a few of these thoughts crossed my mind as I looked into their sad eyes and glum faces ....

NOTE: I know it is difficult if not impossible not to make some comparisons BUT more importantly, I do advise that you emphasise on PERSONAL TARGETS rather than "beating so-and-so" in class ranking ...
FYI - my son only meets 80% of his targets .... :o

aerobax
20-06-2011, 09:25 AM
Don't compare too much, don't stress the kids and YOURSELF too much ... :(

Parents,

I know it is a habit and part of today's competitive lifesytle and nature :( .

However, if you can refrain, do try to refrain from making DIRECT comparison on how the kids achieved in school exams with other parents. Why ? IMHO ...
....

3) Teach the kids to measure their achievements against their OWN SET targets and reward them accordingly. It is difficult to do so because it takes maturity but do try .... I set for my son a set of targets and there is a reward for each target met .... there is ONLY one target for "competition", i.e. get into top 10 in class, but anywhere in the top 10 will do, so whether it is 1, 5 or 9 still carries the same value, this is for him to learn that the REAL WORLD is competitive but more importantly, I place more emphasis on his PERSONAL targets.

The personal targets (non-competitive), like getting above average of 85%, getting above 90% for Maths, get above 80% for English, .... etc .... of course, I told him, should he get a 100% in any subject, TRIPLE BONUS !! :D - this one is to spur "ambition"/"greed" a bit .... :rolleyes:
...
FYI - my son only meets 80% of his targets .... :o

currymee,

Do you mind elaborating in more detail what are the target benchmarks and rewards that you set for your son as a reference for some of us ? :confused: :)

Are your rewards in the form of presents or money ? :confused:

LMei
20-06-2011, 09:59 AM
Are your rewards in the form of presents or money ? :confused:
I just want to add in here after seeing this question. Rewards should never be in the material or monetary form. Think of what your kid loves to do, watch a movie, trip to the zoo, holiday somewhere. Something fun and meaningful. That would spur them on and build good character in growing up so they won't end up materialistic.

Rhiga
20-06-2011, 10:39 AM
Don't compare too much, don't stress the kids and YOURSELF too much ... :(

Parents,

I know it is a habit and part of today's competitive lifesytle and nature :( .

However, if you can refrain, do try to refrain from making DIRECT comparison on how the kids achieved in school exams with other parents. Why ? IMHO ...

1) Kids and you will sleep better - less stressful and tearful if results are not as expected. Kids know if they do well or not, don't have to drill it in/nag too much ... just enough to spur extra efforts and realisation to try harder next time should suffice. The problem is that there is a danger if the kids keep getting nagged and over-done, they will become "tidak apa", "bo-chap" then worse ...

2) Kids will have less REAL friends. You may not realise it but whenever you mentioned another friend's name in higher achievement, that friend goes down in their "internal" ranking in the friend category i.e. this "friend" makes me look bad .... sooner or later, your child will end up with less and less of the "studious/examplary" friends coz he will start to shun them away ...

3) Teach the kids to measure their achievements against their OWN SET targets and reward them accordingly. It is difficult to do so because it takes maturity but do try .... I set for my son a set of targets and there is a reward for each target met .... there is ONLY one target for "competition", i.e. get into top 10 in class, but anywhere in the top 10 will do, so whether it is 1, 5 or 9 still carries the same value, this is for him to learn that the REAL WORLD is competitive but more importantly, I place more emphasis on his PERSONAL targets.

The personal targets (non-competitive), like getting above average of 85%, getting above 90% for Maths, get above 80% for English, .... etc .... of course, I told him, should he get a 100% in any subject, TRIPLE BONUS !! :D - this one is to spur "ambition"/"greed" a bit .... :rolleyes:

4) Less parental stress on yourself ... watch the blood pressure, cholesterol etc .... :eek: We are not in our early 20s ok .... ;)

Why did I mention this today ? Well, report cards were given back last Friday and over the weekend during school co-curriculum activities and at coffeeshops, I saw and overheard a few parents talking/complaining/nagging their kids with other parents .... I just look at the kids' faces and a few of these thoughts crossed my mind as I looked into their sad eyes and glum faces ....

NOTE: I know it is difficult if not impossible not to make some comparisons BUT more importantly, I do advise that you emphasise on PERSONAL TARGETS rather than "beating so-and-so" in class ranking ...
FYI - my son only meets 80% of his targets .... :o


Very well-said again, Bro.

The problems is always the parents – they don’t know what they want. They will follow the “target” of the majority who don’t know what they want.

Result is just a milestone, not the destination.

I set expectation, prepare revision schedule and time table for my kid to follow the LH studies, and at the same time balance it with activities he enjoys doing.

I set the academic expectation from day one in Std one – above 80% in average marks, anything extra is bonus. Class position is not what I want to focus. The key is always whether he understands what has been taught, and can apply what he understands in homework and exam.

He overachieved my expectation in every exams (above 90% in average marks, and surprisingly always within the top 1%-2% of the class). I believe I have managed to inculcate a sense of responsibility on him in studies, so far so good.

The challenges to me is 1) uplift his English to be on par with the standard in real word, 2) allocate more time with him in studies which is tough for working parents like us..

currymee
20-06-2011, 01:54 PM
...

The problems is always the parents – they don’t know what they want. They will follow the “target” of the majority who don’t know what they want.

Result is just a milestone, not the destination.

...

Exactly !! :) :)

currymee
20-06-2011, 02:14 PM
currymee,

Do you mind elaborating in more detail what are the target benchmarks and rewards that you set for your son as a reference for some of us ? :confused: :)

Are your rewards in the form of presents or money ? :confused:

Benchmarks

There is no UNIVERSAL value - it depends on the indvidual child.

This is just like the KPIs the company sets for the workers - stretch but not unachievable i.e. if the child is scoring 60s and 70s in BM, setting 75-80 is a good stretch and progressive target but going straight to 90 is ridiculous and off-putting !!

HOWEVER, there is an UPPER LIMIT, I set for my son for each subject at 90% - to set anything more will be IMHO "unfair" .... ( it is normal for a margin of 5-10% error in normal exams due to carelessness and nerves).

Apart from indvidual subject targets, I also set average percentage targets - 85% and top 10 in class targets.

And should my son scores 100% in any subject, he gets TRIPLE BONUS "rewards points" :p

Rewards (currymee's point system)

You may laugh when I say this but I actually use a system similar to the credit card points redemption system :D

So, for each target that my son meets, he gets A POINT, he can accummulate the points to redeem from an "agreed" catalogue of rewards - ranging from school bags, shoes, story books, toys, NERF guns, KFCs, McDs, holidays, extra badminton sessions, clothings etc .... :D

currymee
20-06-2011, 04:55 PM
Additional points for benchmarks/targets

1) PLEASE DON'T "KILL" the kids over them - things go up and down and so does our work or the kids' study performances ....

2) Guide them and assist them to achieve CONSISTENCY and then from there step-by-step upwards.

3) They are also like us - we also have our GOOD AND BAD DAYS :D

4) NO-ONE wants to do badly in anything !!!!!

So, please DON'T GO NUTS over any exams disappointments OR OVER-JOY too much over success - be as "balance" as you can .... like Sagamihara said, it is a just milestone ....

akiyoshi
20-06-2011, 06:01 PM
Rewards (currymee's point system)

You may laugh when I say this but I actually use a system similar to the credit card points redemption system :D

So, for each target that my son meets, he gets A POINT, he can accummulate the points to redeem from an "agreed" catalogue of rewards - ranging from school bags, shoes, story books, toys, NERF guns, KFCs, McDs, holidays, extra badminton sessions, clothings etc .... :D

Whoa, your point system is comprehensive ! Points got expiry date ?? :D

I too, once HAD a point system, not for academic goals, but for complying to household rules in order to earn privilege for computer games during weekends !
Example: Meals not longer than 30mins, read newspaper daily, wash school shoes, drink certain amount of water, take bath before certain time, (extra points if needed can be earned by washing dishes, washing toilets,etc ).
If total exceed a certain number, privilege granted. Else, work on habits to earn points to make up.

They suddenly become auto-pilot, no more nagging and yelling from me. It was paradise !
But soon the "reward system" becomes irrelevant as they grow older. And I got tired of tracking so system abandoned. It was interesting to see the kids being so meticulous on points, self-scored too...because the carrot-stick meant a lot to them.

I don't have any points for doing well..I just tell them that they need to do well, for themselves, not for the rewards. But if they did well, we will celebrate for them. :D :D

currymee
21-06-2011, 08:11 AM
Whoa, your point system is comprehensive ! Points got expiry date ?? :D

I too, once HAD a point system, not for academic goals, but for complying to household rules in order to earn privilege for computer games during weekends !
Example: Meals not longer than 30mins, read newspaper daily, wash school shoes, drink certain amount of water, take bath before certain time, (extra points if needed can be earned by washing dishes, washing toilets,etc ).
If total exceed a certain number, privilege granted. Else, work on habits to earn points to make up.

They suddenly become auto-pilot, no more nagging and yelling from me. It was paradise !

But soon the "reward system" becomes irrelevant as they grow older. And I got tired of tracking so system abandoned. It was interesting to see the kids being so meticulous on points, self-scored too...because the carrot-stick meant a lot to them.

I don't have any points for doing well..I just tell them that they need to do well, for themselves, not for the rewards. But if they did well, we will celebrate for them. :D :D

Hehehe .... NO expiry date ;) Since it is working well now and he is interested in accumulating the "points" to redeem, then might as well continue. He sees me doing it with petrol, grocery shopping etc with the Bonuslink, Jaya Jusco, Petronas etc ... and each time, I redeem, I got him involved, so it kinds of rub off on him ....

Hopefully as he grows up, he will grow out of it, but right now, it serves as a good motivator - carrot & stick. I hope to reach the stage where he knows that doing well is good for himself and not for rewards soon ... seems to be getting there now ... he even volunteered his "points" to buy his baby brother some toys - wow !!! :) :)

That was a surprise !!!

currymee
21-06-2011, 08:32 AM
New Block - how now ? :confused:

A few parents and I got into a mini-discussion over the new block - many were wondering IF and WHEN the work will start ? We got 6 months left till next year !!

Jokingly, one said, ONLY GROUND-BREAKING ceremony mah (refering to the banner outside the main gate), never said CONSTRUCTION .... walau !! :p :p

PIBG AJK - some official information, if you are "free" .... ;) Some new parents will have to do some serious time-juggling and planning when school restarts next year .... advance notice will be nice and helpful ...

Minnie11
21-06-2011, 10:46 AM
My kid is in LH Std 1 and brought back the report card last Friday. To my surprise, the class position was not indicated. I heard that class position was indicated in the report card of another Std 1 class. Can anyone share your feedback on this ?

currymee
21-06-2011, 10:52 AM
My kid is in LH Std 1 and brought back the report card last Friday. To my surprise, the class position was not indicated. I heard that class position was indicated in the report card of another Std 1 class. Can anyone share your feedback on this ?

Wow !! :eek: Very strange !! Maybe an error by the teacher, best you let her know asap and see what she says ... maybe she is a new teacher and forgot ;)

Usually after every exam, class position is stated in report card but not necessarily standard position.

UNLESS this is a "NEW" KSSR exam requirement - NO RANKING ... :confused: :confused:

cupofcoffee
21-06-2011, 12:11 PM
Hehehe .... NO expiry date ;) Since it is working well now and he is interested in accumulating the "points" to redeem, then might as well continue. He sees me doing it with petrol, grocery shopping etc with the Bonuslink, Jaya Jusco, Petronas etc ... and each time, I redeem, I got him involved, so it kinds of rub off on him ....

Hopefully as he grows up, he will grow out of it, but right now, it serves as a good motivator - carrot & stick. I hope to reach the stage where he knows that doing well is good for himself and not for rewards soon ... seems to be getting there now ... he even volunteered his "points" to buy his baby brother some toys - wow !!! :) :)

That was a surprise !!!

CM,

I found it very interesting that you used such a reward scheme :D

However, I will tend to agree with LMei that it is best for the kids to know and understand that doing well in school is for their own good and future rather than getting gifts/rewards. I guess, you may still have a bit more work in this area ;)

For my son, I do reward him for doing well but not as structured, so it can be anything but usually books and comics. However, each time, I also reminded him that he is doing well for himself in the process.

Just my 2 cents :)

currymee
22-06-2011, 08:07 AM
I got a PM from a new Std 1 parent asking me why is Lick Hung's exams SO TOUGH compared to other SJKCs and a lot of the questions seemed to be "out-of-syllabus", so what for study following the scope of exam .....

What is Lick Hung trying to do ? Demotivate the kids ? Set tough exams just because it is a HPS, Cluster school ? Ego ?

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Let me answer as best as I could .... I ALSO DUNNO WHY !!! :o :o I JUST TELL MY SON TO DO HIS BEST !!! :)

I have been pondering and grumbling about the same thing for the last year .... esp ENGLISH - really out of this "world" :p UNTIL I decided to beat the system by GOING BEYOND the system/syllabus .... ;)

currymee
22-06-2011, 09:44 AM
My guess on the Lick Hung exam marking/question scheme:

1) If you pay attention in class but don't do proper revision - there are enough questions that you can answer to get 60-70%

2) If you pay attention and do proper revision as per syllabus/scope - 70-85% ... the BULK MAJORITY (for lower standards - in the upper standards, all average marks get knock down by another 10%)

3) If you pay attention, do proper revision, CAREFUL and ATTENTIVE to eradicate unnecessary mistakes and THINK when faced with "twisty" questions ... above 90% .

So far, from what I have observed, Lick Hung usually sets "tough" questions in the range of 10-15% to "stretch" the high-achievers and for the teachers to identify them from the majority.

currymee
23-06-2011, 08:24 AM
Children with poor eyesights :(

It saddened me to see that some of my son's friends have also started to wear glasses like him in recent weeks .....

The kids felt so "depressed" and trying to adjust to their new "way of life" ... One of them told me that he felt so "tied-up" as in he cannot run as free as fast before coz he was afraid that his glasses may fall off and break and he gets a scolding ....

I told him, well, bring along your glasses case and when you play, keep it safe in the school bag and then go play without glasses.

Another one told me she is afraid of going BLIND and being teased ... I told her no such thing, just take care of your eyes, rest them and eat your veggies, you will be fine. I told her, "Uncle, has been wearing glasses since small, still ok what !!" :) and if anyone teases you about wearing glasses in class, come and tell Uncle and I will go and talk to them"

Sign of the time .... sigh :(

aerobax
23-06-2011, 12:06 PM
Past Year Paper for next exam ?

Currymee,

Any chance you have got the past year paper for Std 2 for the next coming exams ? ;)

Thank you for all the earlier ones - they were extremely helpful to get the kids to familiarise with the format. :)

currymee
24-06-2011, 08:03 AM
Past Year Paper for next exam ?

Currymee,

Any chance you have got the past year paper for Std 2 for the next coming exams ? ;)

Thank you for all the earlier ones - they were extremely helpful to get the kids to familiarise with the format. :)

SIP - Search In Progresss .... still no joy - the mum that has kindly supplied me with the papers last term said that her girl has left the tuition centre, so my source has been cut off liow ....

Anyone with papers and willing to share, please step forward. If you don't want to be the one to email to many people, just email to me (pdf) and I can do the distribution for all - "free" currymee service :D

currymee
24-06-2011, 04:49 PM
New Block - how now ? :confused:

A few parents and I got into a mini-discussion over the new block - many were wondering IF and WHEN the work will start ? We got 6 months left till next year !!

Jokingly, one said, ONLY GROUND-BREAKING ceremony mah (refering to the banner outside the main gate), never said CONSTRUCTION .... walau !! :p :p

PIBG AJK - some official information, if you are "free" .... ;) Some new parents will have to do some serious time-juggling and planning when school restarts next year .... advance notice will be nice and helpful ...

Still no OFFICIAL news :( except gossips .... :p

I just checked the banner again during lunch - 4-storey building and I asked a friend who is a building contractor, he said, well, the school is cutting it really fine if it plans to finish by year-end.

He added that it is BEST for the school to BUILD IT SLOW AND SAFE for the kids. His daughter will be starting Std1 at LH next year, and he doesn't expect the building to be ready by January 2012.

This may sound weird but one parent mentioned that the school may run the first term of next year (2012) in 2-sessions and then the second term in a single-session ;) - fantastic solution !! :p

Then, there is another one saying the building will be scaled down due to cost ??? :confused:

Aiyo ... banyak, banyak cerita but NOTHING OFFICIAL !! :(

jan tomaswaki
26-06-2011, 04:55 PM
New Block - how now ? :confused:

A few parents and I got into a mini-discussion over the new block - many were wondering IF and WHEN the work will start ? We got 6 months left till next year !!...
Most probably the piling works /foundation will start after UPSR or school holidays .Very noisy mah.! next year the building will start and the new block will take in students by 2013 if the world still around after NOV 2012 :D

currymee
27-06-2011, 07:51 AM
.... if the world still around after NOV 2012 :D

Make sense except the above - HUH ? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

currymee
27-06-2011, 08:01 AM
Parents (esp Std 1 and 2),

I am sure last Friday the kids would come back from school telling you that the school teachers are encouraging everyone to participate in a RUN on this coming SATURDAY, 2nd July 2011 (7:00 AM) in the school.

In case, you are wondering (like me - the "always" blur sotong :p ) what on Earth are they talking about. This is what I have found out.

LARIAN SERENTAK 1MURID 1SUKAN 1MALAYSIA SELURUH NEGARA

Tarikh : 02 Julai 2011 (Sabtu)
Masa : 7.45 pagi
Tempat : Ditentukan oleh sekolah masing-masing
Sasaran : Semua murid, guru, staf sokongan, ibu bapa, ahli keluarga, ahli masyarakat setempat dan lain-lain yang berminat.

The BIGGEST HOO-HAA will be in: Pelancaran peringkat kebangsaan akan diadakan di Padang Dataran Perbandaran (Padang Esplanade), Taiping, Perak Darul Ridzuan.

http://www.moe.gov.my/bsukan/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117:1-murid-1-sukan&catid=25:projek-sukan

FOR FURTHER DETAILS:

Panduan Pelaksanaan

http://www.moe.gov.my/bsukan/images/stories/pdf/pnduanpelaksanaan.pdf

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I told my son - OK, WE ARE RUNNING - go tell your class teacher, we are SIGNING UP !!! :D Good for the kids to learn/particpate in some "community" level events. :)

QUESTION: Why can't the school just send out a "bring-home" notice on the above event ? :confused: :(

Totoro2010
27-06-2011, 09:22 AM
Parents (esp Std 1 and 2),
....a RUN on this coming SATURDAY, 2nd July 2011 (7:00 AM) in the school.

LARIAN SERENTAK 1MURID 1SUKAN 1MALAYSIA SELURUH NEGARA

Tarikh : 02 Julai 2011 (Sabtu)
Masa : 7.45 pagi
Tempat : Ditentukan oleh sekolah masing-masing
Sasaran : Semua murid, guru, staf sokongan, ibu bapa, ahli keluarga, ahli masyarakat setempat dan lain-lain yang berminat.


My kid did not tell anything at last friday, really a blurrrrrrr sotong :o

currymee
27-06-2011, 05:18 PM
My kid did not tell anything at last friday, really a blurrrrrrr sotong :o

No-lah, my son is just super-keen and sharp whenever the class teacher mentions about extra curriculum activities :rolleyes: :p - wish he could pay just as much attention to his studies instead !!! :o :o

birdy
27-06-2011, 09:44 PM
Did anyone of your children gets the donation card for Lick Hung new block again?

I thought they are done with the donation drive.... now they ask the child to collect for them!

QuietStorm
27-06-2011, 11:13 PM
Make sense except the above - HUH ? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:CM, you should watch more Hollywood movies, then you'd have no problem figuring out what Jan meant. :p

currymee
28-06-2011, 07:14 AM
CM, you should watch more Hollywood movies, then you'd have no problem figuring out what Jan meant. :p

Hehehe ;) :D :D ... I know - most movies say Earth will kaput on Dec 21, 2012 (based on Mayan calendar) - BUT Jan said NOV 2012 - one month earlier !! So does he know something that we all don't ? :eek: :eek: :D

currymee
28-06-2011, 07:24 AM
Did anyone of your children gets the donation card for Lick Hung new block again?

I thought they are done with the donation drive.... now they ask the child to collect for them!

EXACTLY what my wifey said when she saw the card also ....

This time around, she was quite pissed off and she kept on saying "ASKING FOR MORE MONEY BUT NO INFO ON PROGRESS OR ANYTHING ON NEW BLOCK - moh kaw chor !!!! :mad:

Furthermore, my son said the class teacher also mentioned that must not collect less than RMXX.00 (not sure how much) otherwise, cannot take part in the run (stated in the cover of card) on 15th July 2011. Wife said, "You are not taking part in anything coz on the 17th, you have got EXAMS !! - habis cerita !! - brilliant timing !! " :p :D

My wife is one of the staunchest supporters of SJKC education that I know, so go figure how cheesed off she was .... She has donated more money to SJKCs than I think is reasonable !!

I know a "pissed off and angry" wife when I see one :eek: , so I am letting her make the final decision on this one (CHICKENING OUT) - I am not getting "killed" over useless ineffective Lick Hung PIBG AJK !!! :p :D They can go and talk to her IF they dare !! :eek:

PS: Why are they (PIBG AJK) so STUPID ? :confused: I bet you, they are pissing off more and more parents ....

currymee
28-06-2011, 12:04 PM
Opppppssss ... I got a PM (from one "teacher" :rolleyes: ) saying that I COMPLAIN A LOT :o :o :o :o

aerobax
28-06-2011, 03:01 PM
Opppppssss ... I got a PM (from one "teacher" :rolleyes: ) saying that I COMPLAIN A LOT :o :o :o :o

HA HA :) .... I am surprised that it bothers you. Never thought that you are the "sensitive" type.

Anyway, so far your complaints have been with valid reasons, so I don't see any problem with that - keep it up ! :)

Totoro2010
28-06-2011, 03:03 PM
Why LH Sport day fall on Friday (15/7/2011), is this meant no school for that day :confused: :confused:

aerobax
28-06-2011, 03:07 PM
EXACTLY what my wifey said when she saw the card also ....

This time around, she was quite pissed off and she kept on saying "ASKING FOR MORE MONEY BUT NO INFO ON PROGRESS OR ANYTHING ON NEW BLOCK - moh kaw chor !!!! :mad:

Furthermore, my son said the class teacher also mentioned that must not collect less than RMXX.00 (not sure how much) otherwise, cannot take part in the run (stated in the cover of card) on 15th July 2011. Wife said, "You are not taking part in anything coz on the 17th, you have got EXAMS !! - habis cerita !! - brilliant timing !! " :p :D

My wife is one of the staunchest supporters of SJKC education that I know, so go figure how cheesed off she was .... She has donated more money to SJKCs than I think is reasonable !!

I know a "pissed off and angry" wife when I see one :eek: , so I am letting her make the final decision on this one (CHICKENING OUT) - I am not getting "killed" over useless ineffective Lick Hung PIBG AJK !!! :p :D They can go and talk to her IF they dare !! :eek:

PS: Why are they (PIBG AJK) so STUPID ? :confused: I bet you, they are pissing off more and more parents ....

CM,

I think the PIBG AJK is turning a DEAF EAR to all the posts and comments here as well as to any parents :(

I fully agree with your wife.

Surely, a few of these PIBG AJK members are smart enough to think and take note that you cannot keep asking for money without proper feedbacks. It will be crazy for any parents to keep on donating like this.

I already have told my wife and my son to inform his teacher that we are stopping all donations to Lick Hung until we get some proper response. This is getting too much.

Sad as we like to help but not in this manner that makes a fool out of parents.

currymee
28-06-2011, 05:28 PM
CM,

I think the PIBG AJK is turning a DEAF EAR to all the posts and comments here as well as to any parents :(

I fully agree with your wife.

Surely, a few of these PIBG AJK members are smart enough to think and take note that you cannot keep asking for money without proper feedbacks. It will be crazy for any parents to keep on donating like this.

I already have told my wife and my son to inform his teacher that we are stopping all donations to Lick Hung until we get some proper response. This is getting too much.

Sad as we like to help but not in this manner that makes a fool out of parents.

Never mind - I have also GIVEN UP on them too :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

currymee
29-06-2011, 07:52 AM
Why LH Sport day fall on Friday (15/7/2011), is this meant no school for that day :confused: :confused:

COOL !! :cool: :cool: :cool: - I am also not sure, to be confirmed ... :p

currymee
29-06-2011, 08:55 AM
...

I already have told my wife and my son to inform his teacher that we are stopping all donations to Lick Hung until we get some proper response. This is getting too much.

Sad as we like to help but not in this manner that makes a fool out of parents.

My wife has also decided NOT TO DONATE ANYMORE until further notice/information from PIBG AJK on the progress of fund collection for the new block. :(

elea1
29-06-2011, 09:00 AM
Parents (esp Std 1 and 2),

I am sure last Friday the kids would come back from school telling you that the school teachers are encouraging everyone to participate in a RUN on this coming SATURDAY, 2nd July 2011 (7:00 AM) in the school.

In case, you are wondering (like me - the "always" blur sotong :p ) what on Earth are they talking about. This is what I have found out.

LARIAN SERENTAK 1MURID 1SUKAN 1MALAYSIA SELURUH NEGARA

Tarikh : 02 Julai 2011 (Sabtu)
Masa : 7.45 pagi
Tempat : Ditentukan oleh sekolah masing-masing
Sasaran : Semua murid, guru, staf sokongan, ibu bapa, ahli keluarga, ahli masyarakat setempat dan lain-lain yang berminat.

The BIGGEST HOO-HAA will be in: Pelancaran peringkat kebangsaan akan diadakan di Padang Dataran Perbandaran (Padang Esplanade), Taiping, Perak Darul Ridzuan.

http://www.moe.gov.my/bsukan/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=117:1-murid-1-sukan&catid=25:projek-sukan

FOR FURTHER DETAILS:

Panduan Pelaksanaan

http://www.moe.gov.my/bsukan/images/stories/pdf/pnduanpelaksanaan.pdf

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I told my son - OK, WE ARE RUNNING - go tell your class teacher, we are SIGNING UP !!! :D Good for the kids to learn/particpate in some "community" level events. :)

QUESTION: Why can't the school just send out a "bring-home" notice on the above event ? :confused: :(


You mean parents can take part too??

elea1
29-06-2011, 09:05 AM
SIP - Search In Progresss .... still no joy - the mum that has kindly supplied me with the papers last term said that her girl has left the tuition centre, so my source has been cut off liow ....

Anyone with papers and willing to share, please step forward. If you don't want to be the one to email to many people, just email to me (pdf) and I can do the distribution for all - "free" currymee service :D

Which year of past year question you looking for? My daughter is in Std 5... any use?

currymee
29-06-2011, 09:30 AM
Which year of past year question you looking for? My daughter is in Std 5... any use?

YES !! TQ :) Since your child is now in Std 5, then any past year papers for Std 2, 3 and 4 will be helpful - more for the children to be familiar with the school exam question format :)

You can email to me at currymee88@gmail.com :)

currymee
29-06-2011, 09:32 AM
You mean parents can take part too??

MOE website say can BUT LH notice did not say anything ... so just turn up and see what happen lor (get your shoes ready just in case !!) I heard it will be running around the whole SS19/6 - true or not ? ... :eek: :p :D

m2b
29-06-2011, 09:43 AM
My wife has also decided NOT TO DONATE ANYMORE until further notice/information from PIBG AJK on the progress of fund collection for the new block. :(


It's so disappointing to see that the school still has not realise that we, parents just wants some answer yet they chose to just ignore it. The donation states that since 2008 they have started this project and until now now even one brick is dismantle. Even my son is going to graduate soon. How much is enough ??? 4 years of collection is still on going ??

Oogway
29-06-2011, 12:12 PM
Heard that the Standard 6 kids were told that all LH students will be sent to SMK Subang Utama and SMK USJ4 next year unless they already have a sibling in another secondary school. Anyone know what this is all about?

maxout
29-06-2011, 01:50 PM
YES !! TQ :) Since your child is now in Std 5, then any past year papers for Std 2, 3 and 4 will be helpful - more for the children to be familiar with the school exam question format :)

You can email to me at currymee88@gmail.com :)

Currymee,

Based on the LH exam papers that I have seen so far, I noted that almost all the questions set by the school teachers are taken from SJKC workbooks (copyright issue? :p ) other than the ones the school asked the kids to buy and use in class.

I have found the exact same questions in workbooks by Potensi, Info Didik, Fajar Bakti, etc ... so, in lieu of getting hold of any past year papers, I do suggest that as long as your children are practising "extra" workbooks, they should be familiar with the exam format.

Teachers today are too lazy to set their own questions, all copy from workbooks :rolleyes:

So don't worry or fret if you cannot hold of the past year papers :)

My 2 cents :)

maxout
29-06-2011, 01:52 PM
Heard that the Standard 6 kids were told that all LH students will be sent to SMK Subang Utama and SMK USJ4 next year unless they already have a sibling in another secondary school. Anyone know what this is all about?

Oh dear ! :( I heard that the teachers in both these schools are not as good as the ones in SMK Seafield or SMK USJ12 :( :( and that both schools have got discipline problems ...

currymee
29-06-2011, 04:26 PM
Currymee,

Based on the LH exam papers that I have seen so far, I noted that almost all the questions set by the school teachers are taken from SJKC workbooks (copyright issue? :p ) other than the ones the school asked the kids to buy and use in class.

I have found the exact same questions in workbooks by Potensi, Info Didik, Fajar Bakti, etc ... so, in lieu of getting hold of any past year papers, I do suggest that as long as your children are practising "extra" workbooks, they should be familiar with the exam format.

Teachers today are too lazy to set their own questions, all copy from workbooks :rolleyes:

So don't worry or fret if you cannot hold of the past year papers :)

My 2 cents :)

Noted with thanks :) :)

jan tomaswaki
29-06-2011, 10:34 PM
Oh dear ! :( I heard that the teachers in both these schools are not as good as the ones in SMK Seafield or SMK USJ12 :( :( and that both schools have got discipline problems ...

my daughter is in S Utama ,no problem indeed this year Form 1 has increase by 100 puplis and SEAField less 100 pupils,can anyone confirm this?

birdy
30-06-2011, 05:27 AM
Talking about pass years questions for practice .... I was recently approached by a friend of mine to e-learning known as Score A. It's something like buying prepaid credit and it can last you for a year. I have calculated, it is about RM34 per month, the best part is it covers all subjects! They claimed to have i-teacher (where the online teacher can answer to your questions instantly), e-questionnaires (they claimed that they have 500,000 sets of questions :eek: ) and many many more advantages.

I am just wondering if I should subscribe to it..... It seems nothing to loose for me since as our children go higher, tuition is something cannot be ignore. Instead of spending few hundreds per month... this online thingy cost only RM34 per month. Anyone experienced before this Score A thingy? Mind to share your thoughts?

currymee
30-06-2011, 07:37 AM
Talking about pass years questions for practice .... I was recently approached by a friend of mine to e-learning known as Score A. It's something like buying prepaid credit and it can last you for a year. I have calculated, it is about RM34 per month, the best part is it covers all subjects! They claimed to have i-teacher (where the online teacher can answer to your questions instantly), e-questionnaires (they claimed that they have 500,000 sets of questions :eek: ) and many many more advantages.

I am just wondering if I should subscribe to it..... It seems nothing to loose for me since as our children go higher, tuition is something cannot be ignore. Instead of spending few hundreds per month... this online thingy cost only RM34 per month. Anyone experienced before this Score A thingy? Mind to share your thoughts?

Birdy,

Is there a TRIAL period for you to test and check out the website, say 1 week ? :confused:

Problem with e-learning is DISCIPLINE - is your child disciplined enough to do so on his/her own ? I doubt if the parents will seat next to them, so that is the biggest challenge.

As for the materials, may be to use as reference, but I would advise against long hours in front of computer, staring and straining as it may "screw-up" their eyes :( :( This is why I am sticking to books/papers.

currymee
30-06-2011, 07:38 AM
MOE website say can BUT LH notice did not say anything ... so just turn up and see what happen lor (get your shoes ready just in case !!) I heard it will be running around the whole SS19/6 - true or not ? ... :eek: :p :D

OK, CONFIRM - kids are running in the streets of SS19/6 - so do expect one hell of a traffic jam this Saturday morning 2/7/2011 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I am still trying to get the exact route, most probably a circuit up to Speedmart 99 / Restoran Syed and then down to Choy Kee and then a few laps round .... ;) IF they want to minimise traffic disruption.

IF they want to create one big jam - go run to Parkway and turn back !!! :D :D :D

m2b
30-06-2011, 11:56 AM
Talking about pass years questions for practice .... I was recently approached by a friend of mine to e-learning known as Score A. It's something like buying prepaid credit and it can last you for a year. I have calculated, it is about RM34 per month, the best part is it covers all subjects! They claimed to have i-teacher (where the online teacher can answer to your questions instantly), e-questionnaires (they claimed that they have 500,000 sets of questions :eek: ) and many many more advantages.

I am just wondering if I should subscribe to it..... It seems nothing to loose for me since as our children go higher, tuition is something cannot be ignore. Instead of spending few hundreds per month... this online thingy cost only RM34 per month. Anyone experienced before this Score A thingy? Mind to share your thoughts?


Actually it is only good if you set certain time for your child to do it everyday but the downside is that it does not cater "penulisan" at all. So its only questions after questions; just like work books which you can also get it outside.

birdy
30-06-2011, 12:08 PM
Actually it is only good if you set certain time for your child to do it everyday but the downside is that it does not cater "penulisan" at all. So its only questions after questions; just like work books which you can also get it outside.
I was told that we can submit the essay to the teacher through email for marking. The teacher will mark and put in comments. As for the timing... I am not too sure... but I suppose there is for exam question.. but for practice question, I don't see a need. You can sit for mock exam style as what I was told.

I will find out more from my friend

currymee
30-06-2011, 01:23 PM
Online Search for Home Tuition

One of the parents introduced this to me just now at school. Personally, I don't need to use it but some of the parents here may find it useful, so here is the link ;)

http://hometuitioncare.com/parent_index.asp

Looks very comprehensive.

birdy
30-06-2011, 03:42 PM
Online Search for Home Tuition

One of the parents introduced this to me just now at school. Personally, I don't need to use it but some of the parents here may find it useful, so here is the link ;)

http://hometuitioncare.com/parent_index.asp

Looks very comprehensive.
Looks to me like a portal to recommend tuition tutors for home tuition. :rolleyes:

currymee
30-06-2011, 03:43 PM
Looks to me like a portal to recommend tuition tutors for home tuition. :rolleyes:

Yup, that is what it is ... pick and choose !! :p :D :D

That's where that parent chose the tuition teacher for her daughter - can check CV etc etc .... instead of relying on "recommendations", she went and checked for herself.

I am just posting it here in case, some parents may also find it helpful ;)

currymee
01-07-2011, 07:59 AM
OK, CONFIRM - kids are running in the streets of SS19/6 - so do expect one hell of a traffic jam this Saturday morning 2/7/2011 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

...

Yesterday, I got a few parents discussing about the DANGER of running in the streets with so many kids and the possibility of being knocked down by cars :eek: and falling down on the road and into the drains .... :( I heard them telling those reasons to their eager children who wanted to take part.

Errrrr .... just ask them to be more careful is all I can say .... :)

There are a lot of excuses IF you don't want the kids to take part. Although the reasons given are valid concerns, please try not to justify by scaring them - IMHO, not good to do that as it will create a negative atmosphere/mentality in them about participation in school events.

You can just say it is TOO EARLY for daddy and mummy to come, we are still sleeping is perfectly acceptable to the kids !! :D :D

birdy
01-07-2011, 08:07 AM
OK, CONFIRM - kids are running in the streets of SS19/6 - so do expect one hell of a traffic jam this Saturday morning 2/7/2011 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Will the police arrest all the children that wearing Yellow on that day :D Street walking in a group is similar to rally ..... oops. :o

currymee
01-07-2011, 08:25 AM
Will the police arrest all the children that wearing Yellow on that day :D Street walking in a group is similar to rally ..... oops. :o

Hehehe ... this "rally" got permit one :) - blanket permit by Kementerian Pelajaran nationwide - but nothing about daddies and mummies turning up in YELLOW T-shirts right ? ;) ;) :p

cupofcoffee
01-07-2011, 02:10 PM
My son has decided to run together with his friends tomorrow - apparently quite a number of his classmates are running as well - all encouraged by their class teacher :D They all registered yesterday when the class teacher asked them who would like to take part on Saturday.

currymee
01-07-2011, 03:02 PM
My son has decided to run together with his friends tomorrow - apparently quite a number of his classmates are running as well - all encouraged by their class teacher :D They all registered yesterday when the class teacher asked them who would like to take part on Saturday.

Good to see that he is enthusiatic to participate !!! :) :)

For me, now I am just trying to figure out how to BEAT THE TRAFFIC JAM tomorrow ? :eek: :eek:

I told my son we may be walking (as a warm-up :rolleyes: ) again .... :D

elea1
02-07-2011, 07:45 AM
Birdy,

Is there a TRIAL period for you to test and check out the website, say 1 week ? :confused:

Problem with e-learning is DISCIPLINE - is your child disciplined enough to do so on his/her own ? I doubt if the parents will seat next to them, so that is the biggest challenge.

As for the materials, may be to use as reference, but I would advise against long hours in front of computer, staring and straining as it may "screw-up" their eyes :( :( This is why I am sticking to books/papers.


I personally subscribe to smartbees for 2 years. Not as effective as work books. Maybe can use as a last minute revision when the mummy is too tired to mark their work book. Total hours use for smartbees not even 2 or 5 hours login in a MONTH!!!!

currymee
02-07-2011, 04:08 PM
LARIAN SERENTAK 1MURID 1SUKAN 1MALAYSIA SELURUH NEGARA

We woke up very early, we walked to school, we did the "chicken-dance" as warm-up exercise :p (or at least that was what I saw in the field !!) :D , we all ran through the SS19/6 housing area, some of us fell down and cut ourselves :( BUT ALL IN ALL, the kids had a GREAT TIME - exhausted but happy (except for those that fell - poor kids, some were badly injured too :( ) !!

I asked my son and his friends, "Do you all want to do it again ?" YES !!! :D

I am sure there are some parents/forumers who has taken photos, so hope you all will post a few shots up here ;)

PS: The traffic jam was horrendous !! Not surprising !! :rolleyes:

currymee
02-07-2011, 04:46 PM
SPECIAL SCHOOL HOLIDAY - Monday, 18th July 2011

Please take note that the HM announced that on the 18th July 2011 (Monday) will be a SPECIAL SCHOOL HOLIDAY as a "bonus" for the run today ;) :) :)

TAKE NOTE: School exams (for Std 1 and 2 - not so sure about others) will therefore commence on 19th instead. :D

Totoro2010
03-07-2011, 10:00 AM
CM, I think your son should be one of the 20th winners since he is a very active boy ;) :p :D

rachel sj
03-07-2011, 10:31 AM
Mine fell and cut her elbow and knee....but overall she enjoyed :) !

fRaNkY
03-07-2011, 03:52 PM
Mine ran also until to the main gate and got pushed down... And fell.

currymee
04-07-2011, 06:59 AM
CM, I think your son should be one of the 20th winners since he is a very active boy ;) :p :D

Hahaha ... no such luck :p ... he and his group of friends were fast alright but only managed to come in in the 30s somethings. They all decided to "run together" around 5-6 boys in a group.

Initially, I was running behind them, keeping an eye but ended up out-sprinted by them when they saw me !!! :eek: :o So, I revert to helping the boys and girls that fell down along the route to get up and bring them to the nearest teachers manning the key junctions with first-aid kits - still I finished pretty "decently" (not last !!) :rolleyes:

Mine fell and cut her elbow and knee....but overall she enjoyed :) !

Mine ran also until to the main gate and got pushed down... And fell.

Hope they are OK and nothing serious ... :(

fRaNkY, any photos ? ;)

currymee
04-07-2011, 07:46 AM
Today is School Day for Lick Hung (4th July 2011)

TAKE NOTE: Today is a school day for Lick Hung - our "cuti ganti" will be on the 18th July instead.

A few schools are having holiday today and a few parents called me just now asking about the same thing.

currymee
04-07-2011, 09:07 AM
Examination Scope (2-1) for Std 2 - should be out today

Oh yah ! :o I forgot to mention that my son's class teacher mentioned to me when I spoke to her during the Larian event that she expects the exam scope to be given out by today (Monday 4th July)

So, please check with kids later.

Mommy
04-07-2011, 09:16 AM
Today is School Day for Lick Hung (4th July 2011)

TAKE NOTE: Today is a school day for Lick Hung - our "cuti ganti" will be on the 18th July instead.

A few schools are having holiday today and a few parents called me just now asking about the same thing.


thot 18 July is an exam day?? Does it mean the exam will be postponed?

currymee
04-07-2011, 09:29 AM
thot 18 July is an exam day?? Does it mean the exam will be postponed?

Yes, I asked my son's class teacher and she said to start on the NEXT DAY - 19th July 2011 :)

The HM announced the holiday to the Std 1 and 2 kids after the run as they were all gathered in the car-park waiting to be picked up by their respective parents to go home.

Mommy
04-07-2011, 02:27 PM
Yes, I asked my son's class teacher and she said to start on the NEXT DAY - 19th July 2011 :)

The HM announced the holiday to the Std 1 and 2 kids after the run as they were all gathered in the car-park waiting to be picked up by their respective parents to go home.

Another stress weeks to go...son will miss the Transformer movie.
Notice that he deteriorate this year...dunno how to make him pick up again...
any advice parents?

currymee
04-07-2011, 02:33 PM
Another stress weeks to go...son will miss the Transformer movie.
Notice that he deteriorate this year...dunno how to make him pick up again...
any advice parents?

Mommy,

You may have to do a deeper post-mortem to find out EXACTLY where he has not done well and why for each subject. It is a bit too general to give advice except to try harder and do more exercises.

Hope you don't mind elaborating further so that we can assist correctly.

Yes, the stress level is slowly building up already ... :(

Mommy
04-07-2011, 02:57 PM
Mommy,

You may have to do a deeper post-mortem to find out EXACTLY where he has not done well and why for each subject. It is a bit too general to give advice except to try harder and do more exercises.

Hope you don't mind elaborating further so that we can assist correctly.

Yes, the stress level is slowly building up already ... :(

Thanks CM, basically focus & careless mistakes. & of course the worst is maths.
what i notice is he cant focus well, thus making the silly careless mistakes like copy wrongly the sentences. Because, he cannot focus, he doesnt like to read the problem solving questions in maths. he just guess and of course his luck is never too good. hahaha

currymee
04-07-2011, 03:03 PM
Thanks CM, basically focus & careless mistakes. & of course the worst is maths.
what i notice is he cant focus well, thus making the silly careless mistakes like copy wrongly the sentences. Because, he cannot focus, he doesnt like to read the problem solving questions in maths. he just guess and of course his luck is never too good. hahaha

My son had the same problem during Std 1 and the way we solved it was to get him to READ ALOUD the question each time during home-study, then we will ask him what it means and what it wants.

It is a slow process but after a while, he gets the point that he has to read the question till the end and underline what was requested.

From what I have observed, a lot of study difficulties during Std 1-3 are more related to reading and vocabulary rather than competency.

Rhiga
04-07-2011, 03:17 PM
That’s why I always prefer the old-fashioned way i.e the method used by ancient Chinese in teaching Chinese literature.

For effective learning, they wanted to have 3 combinations – mouth, hand and mind.

The student is required to read out loud, write it down and remember/memorize by hard. The next step is up to individual’s talent to absorb and apply it.

IMO, read and write are critical steps especially in primary level – it helps to understand and remember.

Whatever the kids learn/understand, they can ONLY apply it in homework and exam if they can remember.

The result won't be fast... easily few months to a year before you can see the benefits.

The best is to start from pre-sechool, 4-5 years of age. But it is never late to start now... it is still a long way to go for Std 2 in primary level..

Cheers

Mommy
04-07-2011, 03:48 PM
My son had the same problem during Std 1 and the way we solved it was to get him to READ ALOUD the question each time during home-study, then we will ask him what it means and what it wants.

It is a slow process but after a while, he gets the point that he has to read the question till the end and underline what was requested.

From what I have observed, a lot of study difficulties during Std 1-3 are more related to reading and vocabulary rather than competency.


CM, that is my son's problem. Everytime when I get him to read the question when he complain he doesnt know how to do...he will start crying. Its so hard to get him to read the question even during his tuition time. Most of the time, I need to hold a cane on one hand and the question on the other to force him to read. I have been doing this since 5-6 years old coz his kindy is quite advance to start problem solving once they have the basic of maths. Till now, he is so "lazy" to read the question. I almost give up everytime he does the problem solving questions. Unfortunately I know I cant give up on my son and thus trying various way to encourage him to read the question before telling me he doesnt know how to do. He is getting worst now coz the Std 2 problem solving question is obviously longer than Std 1.

currymee
04-07-2011, 04:33 PM
Exam 2-1 Std 2 Past Year Paper

Ok, I have managed to get a set of last year's Std 2 past year paper (exam 2-1, 2010) from a mother just now - thanks a million :) :) She wants to remain anonymous.

I promised her that I will tidy up and blanco the name and marks before distributing. I will let you all know when I am all done and ready, probably next week.

Please PM or email me (currymee88@gmail.com - the email is working again, I have tided it up and managed to get Gmail admin to help unspam me ;) ) with your email address if you are interested.

currymee
05-07-2011, 07:58 AM
Std 2 (2011) - Exam Scope for Exam 2/1

OK, the exam season has officially "started" .... time for mummies and daddies to get to "work" .... ;)

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/ExamScope2-1.jpg

Rhiga
05-07-2011, 10:07 AM
The scope for BM on the photocopy sheet is not clear, what I can read is :

a) Jawab soalan berdasarkan petikan
b) Isi tempat kosong dengan k-hubung……..
c) K- seru...
d) Imbuhan
e) Sinonim
f) Padankan permainan rakyat
g) Padankan gambar
h) Kuih tradisional
i) objective

I think (b) and (c) are incomplete ... anyone knows the complete scope or this is the correct scope...?

currymee
05-07-2011, 10:48 AM
The scope for BM on the photocopy sheet is not clear, what I can read is :

a) Jawab soalan berdasarkan petikan
b) Isi tempat kosong dengan k-hubung……..
c) K- seru...
d) Imbuhan
e) Sinonim
f) Padankan permainan rakyat
g) Padankan gambar
h) Kuih tradisional
i) objective

I think (b) and (c) are incomplete ... anyone knows the complete scope or this is the correct scope...?

Bro,

My understanding and interpretation of b) and c) is that the questions will be of the "isi tempat kosong" type using "kata hubung" and "kata seruan" - check the Skor Gemilang exercises, it is all there ;)

Rhiga
05-07-2011, 11:15 AM
CM, that is my son's problem. Everytime when I get him to read the question when he complain he doesnt know how to do...he will start crying. Its so hard to get him to read the question even during his tuition time. Most of the time, I need to hold a cane on one hand and the question on the other to force him to read. I have been doing this since 5-6 years old coz his kindy is quite advance to start problem solving once they have the basic of maths. Till now, he is so "lazy" to read the question. I almost give up everytime he does the problem solving questions. Unfortunately I know I cant give up on my son and thus trying various way to encourage him to read the question before telling me he doesnt know how to do. He is getting worst now coz the Std 2 problem solving question is obviously longer than Std 1.

I think this is due to the different stages of development ( I am not an expert in child education but based on my experience).

Let me share my experience with you. I sent my son to pre-school when he was 5 years ago i.e. he only spent 2 years in pre-school.

During the 1st term of pre-school when he was 5 years old, he really struggled in writing the roman alphabet and he couldn’t draw or colour properly.

Initially for the 1-2 months, I thought this was due to the fact that other kids had one year advantage than him (most of them enrolled in this pre-school at the age of 4). However, his ability in writing, drawing and coloring was still poor compared to others in the beginning of 2nd term. A teacher even suggested to bring him to see a specialist. I did a thorough evaluation on him myself – I assessed his learning ability, memory and tried to identify whether this writing/drawing/coloring problem is an interim symptom.

I was correct – these problems became less significant at the end of year 1 pre-school and no longer an issue in second year. He can draw and colour properly but his handwriting was still not good compared to others.

Even now, the class teacher of LH also commented his handwriting needs to improve. I think I know the root cause of his handwriting – mainly inherited from me ( I have bad handwriting) and partly he is also like me – think much faster than he can write. His academic performance is good – always in the top 5 but his handwriting is anytime the last few..

The point that I wanted to tell you is – your son’s problem can be the similar nature – it is just interim, he is just not there YET as far as focus/concentration is concerned but slowly he will naturally improve/overcome it.


Cheers

LMei
05-07-2011, 11:22 AM
CM, that is my son's problem. Everytime when I get him to read the question when he complain he doesnt know how to do...he will start crying. Its so hard to get him to read the question even during his tuition time. Most of the time, I need to hold a cane on one hand and the question on the other to force him to read. I have been doing this since 5-6 years old coz his kindy is quite advance to start problem solving once they have the basic of maths. Till now, he is so "lazy" to read the question. I almost give up everytime he does the problem solving questions. Unfortunately I know I cant give up on my son and thus trying various way to encourage him to read the question before telling me he doesnt know how to do. He is getting worst now coz the Std 2 problem solving question is obviously longer than Std 1.
Is he really lazy or does he have problems with reading? Have you evaluated his reading skill? Some children can read word by word but when it comes to sentences they have problems. Someone told me a method to help a child improve in his reading by using powerpoint presentation.

Rhiga
05-07-2011, 11:22 AM
Bro,

My understanding and interpretation of b) and c) is that the questions will be of the "isi tempat kosong" type using "kata hubung" and "kata seruan" - check the Skor Gemilang exercises, it is all there ;)

Thanks Bro,

I thought there are some words missing. :o

currymee
05-07-2011, 11:30 AM
Thanks Bro,

I thought there are some words missing. :o

Teacher not sure how to join two sentences - just simply blanco !! :rolleyes:

Mommy
05-07-2011, 12:18 PM
Is he really lazy or does he have problems with reading? Have you evaluated his reading skill? Some children can read word by word but when it comes to sentences they have problems. Someone told me a method to help a child improve in his reading by using powerpoint presentation.

thanks Lmei & Saga, I dont think he has problems with reading. When he reads non-school text related books, he can relay the story to me clearly especially books related to science and his favourite transformer. hahaha

currymee
05-07-2011, 01:56 PM
thanks Lmei & Saga, I dont think he has problems with reading. When he reads non-school text related books, he can relay the story to me clearly especially books related to science and his favourite transformer. hahaha

Hahaha .... I guess LH's school work is definitely not as interesting then :p :p :D :D

Like that, my son is also suffering from the SAME PROBLEM - in his case, books about DINOSAURS and Ben10 !! :rolleyes:

currymee
05-07-2011, 02:16 PM
Std 2 Past Year paper BONUS - 2009 also !! :D :D

A kind parent (thank you Ms LYC) :) :) has just emailed me a complete set of 2009 (exam 2-1) Past Year papers for Std 2 - all clean up, pdf and ready to go :D

I will email this set of questions out to those parents that have already requested - please check your email. The attachment is around 4MB PDF in size, so if your mailbox got size attachment limit, please give me an alternative email.

PM me or email me your email address to currymee88@gmail.com if you are interested.

PS: I have already email out.

currymee
06-07-2011, 08:38 AM
Clarification regarding Past Year papers

I got a few PMs asking me why am I so "kan cheong" about past year papers and do I really expect the school to repeat the questions ? (Note: I suspect they are LH teachers posing as mothers !! :p ;) )

Firstly, I am always "kan cheong" when it comes to exams - has been that way since I was around 10 years old ... OLD HABIT DIES HARD :o :D More the case that I do place an emphasis on it so that my children know that it is a serious matter and not play-play and part of their responsibilities as a student. They should try their best - that is all I ask.

Secondly, "do I really expect the school to repeat the questions ? " - answer is NO, I do not and I also do not believe in "spot quetion".

By having the past year paper (any year within last 3 years will do as far as I am concerned) will allow me to help gauge the level of difficulty, format of exam and also the state of preparation that my son is at the moment. It will also provide me with an early detection of any weak areas.

PS: Parents that have requested, I have already emailed to all of you. Please check, if you did not receive by now, please email me again.

Totoro2010
06-07-2011, 08:57 AM
Clarification regarding Past Year papers
......
By having the past year paper (any year within last 3 years will do as far as I am concerned) will allow me to help gauge the level of difficulty, format of exam and also the state of preparation that my son is at the moment. It will also provide me with an early detection of any weak areas.

Good interpretation, CM :D


Std 2 Past Year paper BONUS - 2009 .....
Thank you, CM...I have got the papers liao :)

And, thank you for the kindness of Ms LYC :)

currymee
06-07-2011, 12:02 PM
Clarification regarding Past Year papers

I got a few PMs asking me why am I so "kan cheong" about past year papers and do I really expect the school to repeat the questions ? (Note: I suspect they are LH teachers posing as mothers !! :p ;) )

.....

OOOOPPPSS :o :o ... one of them replied saying that she is NOT POSING at all because she is BOTH A MOTHER and A TEACHER :o :o

:D :D - sorry, Cikgu :o

currymee
07-07-2011, 08:34 AM
School Canteen Selling JUNK "teeth cleansing sweets"

My son bought one tube (blue colour - 60 cents) and I gave him HELL for it !!! :mad: :mad:

This is a NO-brand, rubbish, JUNK food/sweet whose quality is suspect and can be dangerous (Made in China - God knows what is in them !! :eek: ), one look at the stuff was enough to make my blood boil.

I thought the school canteen is supposed to be FREE OF SUCH CRAP JUNK FOOD !!! :mad: :mad:

I told my son , if you want to die, go play in the middle of the road !!

currymee
07-07-2011, 08:51 AM
Heard that the Standard 6 kids were told that all LH students will be sent to SMK Subang Utama and SMK USJ4 next year unless they already have a sibling in another secondary school. Anyone know what this is all about?

Message from Oogway - who was unable to post due to some funny problems with usj.com.my :rolleyes: ("seditious" kut ? - kidding) :D :D

He emailed me the following message and asked me to post on his behalf.


"Hi, Currymme, i'm one of the member of USJ.com and one of the member named " Oogway " was asking about all The std 6 student posting dated 29/6, yes, this is the info as follow :

Lick Hung - post to SM Subang Utama & SM USJ 4
Wawasan - post to USJ 8
Chee Wen - post to SM Bdr Sunway & SM SS17

If they have any sister or brother in another school, it depend on the place avalability of that school and the instruction is from KPM and there will be no changee at all.
Please let Oogway know becausce when i try to post, the USJ.com web rejected me.
Regards"

Rhiga
07-07-2011, 11:04 AM
I got a few PMs asking me why am I so "kan cheong" about past year papers and do I really expect the school to repeat the questions

Bro,
You are doing this voluntarily work with noble intention to share and help parents in LH. Every day, you spend considerable of your “free time” to post, reply and even go to the length to coordinate and forward the past year sheets for the benefits of the Std 2 kids to have a feel of the exam questions.

Kan Cheong ?? Who the F are these fellas to comment other as Kan Cheong. :mad:

Honestly, I believe these fellas already got the whole set of past year paper and they are more Kan Cheong now as they are worried their kids will lose the “advantage” because others also have a chance to practice the past year sheet.

I fell sick of this type of behavior… never step forward to help and share but continue to criticize and whin…

I have seen many of this types in life, from school to work and I can say for sure – most of them are losers in life. They were not good during their studies time, and they are also less competitive in job and material achievement… The only edge they have is – they are better whiner.

currymee
07-07-2011, 01:30 PM
Past Year Paper 2009 - Please Download Below

I am trying out a "new" method (24 hours availability subject to Malaysian Govt censorship :rolleyes: ) to distribute the past year papers - so please click on either one of the links below :)

File name: Std_2_-_LH_-_July_2009.pdf File size: 3.15 MB (http://www.uploadstation.com/file/n6PHdYc/Std_2_-_LH_-_July_2009.pdf)

OR

http://www.uploadstation.com/file/n6PHdYc/Std_2_-_LH_-_July_2009.pdf

This is also to help ensure that parents can get the papers even if I am not checking my email regularly esp when exams get closer !! :p :D :D

currymee
07-07-2011, 02:02 PM
Bro,
You are doing this voluntarily work with noble intention to share and help parents in LH. Every day, you spend considerable of your “free time” to post, reply and even go to the length to coordinate and forward the past year sheets for the benefits of the Std 2 kids to have a feel of the exam questions.

Kan Cheong ?? Who the F are these fellas to comment other as Kan Cheong. :mad:

Honestly, I believe these fellas already got the whole set of past year paper and they are more Kan Cheong now as they are worried their kids will lose the “advantage” because others also have a chance to practice the past year sheet.

I fell sick of this type of behavior… never step forward to help and share but continue to criticize and whin…

I have seen many of this types in life, from school to work and I can say for sure – most of them are losers in life. They were not good during their studies time, and they are also less competitive in job and material achievement… The only edge they have is – they are better whiner.

Bro,

We cannot help it if there are people with differing point of views, values or priorities. That is both the beauty and ugly sides of human nature - the diversity :D

What is important is that we believe in what we are trying to achieve. In this forum, I am trying to build a community of like-minded parents who see values and benefits in GIVING and SHARING rather just taking for their children's education at SJKC Lick Hung.

When I have, I will share and hopefully, when I don't have, someone else will kindly share ... I am happy to say that a number of mothers and forumers have come forward to assist - thank you !! :) It is good to know that there is still "kindness" in an ultra-competitive world :)

This may sound strange to you but I am always happy to see when a child is happy and cheerful from doing well in school. :)

currymee
08-07-2011, 07:55 AM
Today 8th July - SCHOOL DAY

Wah ! Yesterday, there were so many news and rumours that the schools will be closed as a result of BERSIH rally in KL tomorrow.

I checked with one of the teachers and she said "NO SUCH THING" .... so SCHOOL DAY TODAY !! :p

Having said that I also heard that some parents are not sending their kids to school for fear of getting stuck in the evening after school and also not taking part in the extra-curiculum activities tomorrow. Nothing much I can say EXCEPT your choice and decision ;)

Totoro2010
08-07-2011, 08:54 AM
15th July LH Sport Day

Heard that:

1) 15th July Sport Day only for Std 1, 2 & 3.....Std 4 to 6 still have to attend class

2) Pupils of Std 1 to 3 who not take part at the competition are not compulsory come to school?

CM, is that true? :confused:

currymee
08-07-2011, 09:24 AM
15th July LH Sport Day

Heard that:

1) 15th July Sport Day only for Std 1, 2 & 3.....Std 4 to 6 still have to attend class

2) Pupils of Std 1 to 3 who not take part at the competition are not compulsory come to school?

CM, is that true? :confused:

Totoro,

Sorry, at the moment, I don't know as my son has to attend, he is taking part in the competition. The silly boy ran so fast until he was selected to compete !!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now, we have to go to school at 7:00AM again !!

PS: My fault for telling him - GO ON, TRY YOUR BEST !! :rolleyes:

Totoro2010
08-07-2011, 10:39 AM
....PS: My fault for telling him - GO ON, TRY YOUR BEST !! :rolleyes:
It is good for your son to attend the sport day competition, I am also feeling good if children can take part for sport beside of the academic class ;) :) :)

What I am worried is the transportation to the school...if Std 4-6 still have to attend class, sure all the transporter will go on to carry them as usual for the morning class, how are they going to carry extra afternoon class children like our kids if their MPV or Van not enough space? :(

Then, the working parent like me have to apply leave for the children's sport day liao :rolleyes:

currymee
08-07-2011, 12:03 PM
....

Then, the working parent like me have to apply leave for the children's sport day liao :rolleyes:

I guess that is the REALITY of having school-going kids, so you may have to PLAN-IN a few such days in the working schedule in the future .... ;)

Just don't do something extreme like me ..... quit a well-paid job :eek: so that I can work from home to look after the kids :) Regrets ? Sometimes ... but spending time with the kids more than make up for it :p

currymee
11-07-2011, 09:10 AM
2010 Past Year Papers - slight delay - light blow :(

I will be emailing out the Std 2 2010 past year papers in a couple of days time, slight delay due to my scanner "bulb" blow :( :( Sent the unit in for service just now - hope to get it back later in the afternoon.

BTW, I also noticed that I did not have the BM papers, so if any parents have the 2010 Std 2 BM papers, please share-share :)

currymee
12-07-2011, 08:25 AM
Sports Day Notice

Please take note below.

One forumer PM me asking
1) Why on Friday ? (the usual day: Saturday)
2) Why at the school padang ? (the usual venue: MPSJ Stadium)

For this parent, it will mean taking a day-off, I assume ... :confused:


15th July LH Sport Day
Heard that:
....

2) Pupils of Std 1 to 3 who not take part at the competition are not compulsory come to school?

CM, is that true? :confused:

Totoro, your child doesn't have to go to school !!! :D - CUTI !!


http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx189/currymee/LH-notice-sportsday.jpg

birdy
12-07-2011, 08:32 AM
How do we know if our child has been selected to participate certain event? My daughter keeps on saying wanted to go but not sure if she meant the charity run or sports event. :o

currymee
12-07-2011, 08:35 AM
How do we know if our child has been selected to participate certain event? My daughter keeps on saying wanted to go but not sure if she meant the charity run or sports event. :o

Same here - but I thought the Charity Run was done "SIMULATNEOUSLY" with the Larian Serentak on 2nd July ? :confused: :confused:

For Sports event, you have to ask the children whether they are "selected" by the class teacher - if no, then it could mean the Charity Run - (which I am not sure IF still on or not ? ) :confused:

Totoro2010
12-07-2011, 09:26 AM
How do we know if our child has been selected to participate certain event? My daughter keeps on saying wanted to go but not sure if she meant the charity run or sports event. :o
My kid also don't know whether has been selected or not :o


Totoro, your child doesn't have to go to school !!! - CUTI !!
My kid wants to go even has not been selected :rolleyes: ... but the blur sotong keep on saying want to join the charity run :cool: :D :D

Mommy
12-07-2011, 09:37 AM
My kid also don't know whether has been selected or not :o


My kid wants to go even has not been selected :rolleyes: ... but the blur sotong keep on saying want to join the charity run :cool: :D :D

Dear parents, these are good signs that your child is a team player. My son just tell me "mommy, this is the notice that I dont need to attend school on Friday. I didnt take part in any event"...that's it....
Unfortunately, he didnt mean that he wants to stay at home to do revision for next week exam. I am going to lost my voice screaming at him to complete his homework so that I can do revision with him...sweat...I dont think he has time to do even 1 of the past year paper...

currymee
12-07-2011, 11:09 AM
Same here - but I thought the Charity Run was done "SIMULATNEOUSLY" with the Larian Serentak on 2nd July ? :confused: :confused:

For Sports event, you have to ask the children whether they are "selected" by the class teacher - if no, then it could mean the Charity Run - (which I am not sure IF still on or not ? ) :confused:

THE CHARITY RUN IS ON (according to a mother)

jan tomaswaki
12-07-2011, 01:31 PM
Annual school sports is also for parents to get together like the previous tug-of war which i believe is enjoy among parents.it also spot potential future country runners,like marina Chin,Muntaz Jaafar,Rabuan Pit,Hanapiah nasir,etc.With a close door affair sport how our country spot new potential?

ctb
12-07-2011, 04:09 PM
Same here - but I thought the Charity Run was done "SIMULATNEOUSLY" with the Larian Serentak on 2nd July ? :confused: :confused:

For Sports event, you have to ask the children whether they are "selected" by the class teacher - if no, then it could mean the Charity Run - (which I am not sure IF still on or not ? ) :confused:

Fyi, the Charity Run will be on Sports Day. It was clearly stated on the charity card and notice (in Chinese version). Guess the HM forgot to write it on the BM version. For those who can read Chinese should be able to notice it.

cupofcoffee
13-07-2011, 07:37 AM
CM,

There are 2 runs:

1) Larian Serentak (organised by Kementerian Pelajaran) on 2nd July 2011 for the Malaysian Book of Records and the1Murid 1Sukan programme.

2) SJKC Lick Hung Charity Run for fund collection for the new classroom building block. This run is to be held this Friday morning 15th July 2011.

:) :)

currymee
13-07-2011, 09:03 AM
Fyi, the Charity Run will be on Sports Day. It was clearly stated on the charity card and notice (in Chinese version). Guess the HM forgot to write it on the BM version. For those who can read Chinese should be able to notice it.

CM,

There are 2 runs:

1) Larian Serentak (organised by Kementerian Pelajaran) on 2nd July 2011 for the Malaysian Book of Records and the1Murid 1Sukan programme.

2) SJKC Lick Hung Charity Run for fund collection for the new classroom building block. This run is to be held this Friday morning 15th July 2011.

:) :)

ctb and cupofcoffee,

Thanks for the update and clarification - yes, it really helps IF some of the info are in English or BM as well. ;)

Not all parents can read Chinese characters. :o

currymee
14-07-2011, 08:07 AM
Emailed out - 2010 Std 2 Past Year Papers (except BM)

Hi Parents,

I have already emailed out to all of you that asked for the past year papers - please check your emails.

Take note that I did not have any 2010 BM past year papers :( :(

I asked the mum that gave me the set, apparently, the "original source" did not give out the BM papers coz the child did very badly ....apparently, they were very tough papers :eek: :eek:

So if any parents that have the 2010 Std 2 BM papers, hope you don't mind sharing or email to me (currymee88@gmail.com) and I can help to distribute to the others as well.

Totoro2010
14-07-2011, 11:05 AM
...I have already emailed out to all of you that asked for the past year papers - please check your emails.

Thank you CM....I have got it :)