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StonTemplePilot
31-12-2009, 09:51 PM
Was given a Tag Automatic watch at Christmas...First time using a automatic watch which do not run on batteries but movement of the wrist while wearing the watch...

Problem is that the watch stops in the morning as it is left idle during the night, which means the watch needs to be rewound every morning??

Seems quite inconvenient? Anyone got any comment?

Feynman
31-12-2009, 10:37 PM
When you first time wear it, you can wind it clockwise for about 30 turns. Then with wearing it for 8 hours each day, it should continue running.

If it still stops, then your wrist movement is not enough. This normally happens when to ladies automatic watches. You may need to wear it longer, or perhaps wind it every other day. Some people say winding auto watches will wear the watches movement, but IMO, as long as you wind it "softly", it should be ok.

ceo684
31-12-2009, 11:03 PM
Try giving it a few waves before sleeping?

StonTemplePilot
31-12-2009, 11:14 PM
Cant leave the watch idle over the weekend? :confused:

Alamak...Anyone wanna buy the Tag Carrera then? :D

Hiliary
31-12-2009, 11:37 PM
i wind about 20 times only, check the manual. Some watches need more, some less.

Then, get a watch winder

robertec
31-12-2009, 11:47 PM
Cant leave the watch idle over the weekend? :confused:

Alamak...Anyone wanna buy the Tag Carrera then? :D

An offer too good to refuse??

fRaNkY
31-12-2009, 11:54 PM
I have one watch with similar problems... but it is a imitation copy.... now when I want to wear a heavy watch, I d just adjust the time and shake shake :D

kwchang
01-01-2010, 12:57 AM
Cant leave the watch idle over the weekend? :confused:

Alamak...Anyone wanna buy the Tag Carrera then? :D
If you leave the watch idle, then you need to buy a vibrating watch stand that winds the watch for you. Best way is not to take it off.

Which Carerra (http://www.tagheuer.com/the-collection/carrera/men/calibre-s-laptimer-chrono/index.lbl?w=CV7A10.BA0795) are you having? I checked the website and there are quite a few -

Automatic chronograph tachymetre
Automatic chronograph Day-date
Automatic watch
Calibre S Laptimer chrono


Let me know your price and I will check with my finance minister if I can afford one ;) :D :)

CS Chua
01-01-2010, 01:29 AM
I always wear automatic watches, not digital ones. Once I put on a watch, it never comes off except for security reason at airports. So, get use to wearing it all the time. It is a matter of habit. But if you want to take it off during the night, get a vibrating stand as kwchang suggested.

Hiliary
01-01-2010, 01:34 AM
if you search the web or ask in a watch shop for a vibrating stand you will get nowhere or directed to a sex toys shop.
You need a watch winder

kwchang
01-01-2010, 01:53 AM
I stand corrected - check out something about watch winders here (http://www.watchwinderstore.com/watch/winders.htm)

I thought I read somewhere some time ago about watch stands that vibrate .. couldn't find it again.

BMW9700
01-01-2010, 02:00 AM
normally the tag should run for 2 to3 days once u had worn it for a day

besitai2007
01-01-2010, 06:48 AM
I'm using a Seiko automatic winding watch. Congrats on having a fine watch in the TAG. You should wear it on the hand that you move around the most. I wear mine on my left and am right handed. I carry my laptop or briefcase with my right hand and movement is limited (you don't swing a heavy case as you walk) while I swing more with my left (the free arm) out of habit. When I'm in the office, there is limited hand movement and I have to swing my left hand to keep the rotor moving so that the watch won't die. The movement of the rotor charges up the capacitor inside and allows it to store the charges. During the first few days the watch may die during the night. So swing it through an arc a few times before sleeping. Advice is not to be too vigororus in the swinging - just put the watch in the palm of your hand and tilt your wrist from side to side and in a small arc. You may break the rotor if you are too vigorous with your swinging. My brother-in-law damaged his Brietling after swinging the watch too vigorously. After constant wearing of the watch the capacitor should have stored enough charge to last until the next day. My instruction manual says to observe the second hand needle (mine has). It's movement should be smooth. But if it is still jerky, there's not enough charge stored. If you don't wear it for sometime you will have to start the process all over again. Maybe you need to wear it to sleep during the first few days. ;) Only problem with these automatic winding watches, they're darn heavy because of the rotor and mechanism.

Naka
01-01-2010, 07:15 AM
Yes, these automatic watches can be a headache.

Now I couldn't be bother to wind it, just put it on..."mati mati lah".... and if you want to check the time, just look at the mobile phone. :D :D

CS Chua
01-01-2010, 09:30 AM
Since we are on this topic of automatic watches, can anyone recommend a good one around RM500.00? Nothing fanciful with features but must be able to keep accurate time. I used a Seiko and Timex for 10 years and then bought this Citizen watch but it goes fast by 10 minutes every month. The Seiko and Timex (I inter-changed it from time to time) were fast by 2 minutes each month and that is acceptable to me.

I am disappointed with the Citizen watch. I had it re-calibrated twice already. Any recommendations? Like I said, nothing fanciful or expensive as I travel alot and I do not want to attract attention.

Naka
01-01-2010, 09:48 AM
Since we are on this topic of automatic watches, can anyone recommend a good one around RM500.00? Nothing fanciful with features but must be able to keep accurate time. I used a Seiko and Timex for 10 years and then bought this Citizen watch but it goes fast by 10 minutes every month. The Seiko and Timex (I inter-changed it from time to time) were fast by 2 minutes each month and that is acceptable to me.

I am disappointed with the Citizen watch. I had it re-calibrated twice already. Any recommendations? Like I said, nothing fanciful or expensive as I travel alot and I do not want to attract attention.

For that, I use a battery operated one....it's so accurate. :D

CS Chua
01-01-2010, 09:55 AM
How tough are digital watches? I was thinking of that too. Can they take the constant rain and shine? I do not like taking off my watches so it should be able to handle showers, rain, swimming, high altitude and intense vibration.

StonTemplePilot
01-01-2010, 09:57 AM
Thks for the input guys...

chang, look at the link u gave me but not in the catalogs that u put up..
It's a black strap grand carrera caliper chronograph from what i can see from the watch.

watch winders? how much do they cost and can i buy them from any watch shops? Seem kinda weird u need such stuff to keep a watch moving :D Did think about keeping it ontop of the vibrating fridge overnite to keep it wound hehe

firefox
01-01-2010, 09:59 AM
My Casio watch bought from Mydin was cheap and gives the correct time always, thats all i need.
Should be more than 5 years old now, if spoilt throw away and buy a new one :p

Naka
01-01-2010, 10:08 AM
How tough are digital watches? I was thinking of that too. Can they take the constant rain and shine? I do not like taking off my watches so it should be able to handle showers, rain, swimming, high altitude and intense vibration.

Mine is a few years old ( De Wan) and I oni replaced the battery once at RM12/=.

QuietStorm
01-01-2010, 10:24 AM
Mine is a few years old ( De Wan) and I oni replaced the battery once at RM12/=.That reminds me. Have to replace the battery in my Adidas watch, a company gift from way back when. :p

Hiliary
01-01-2010, 10:26 AM
There are many vintage watch sellers in Malaysia and prices are very reasonable, but of course buyer beware when new to the "hobby".
Having said that the few that i have dealt with have websites with honest descriptions, show plenty of detailed photographs, pack well, ship fast and are friendly to deal with.
As an example, you can buy genuine 70's Seiko divers and "5" watches for less than the "high end" fakes on Petaling street.
Check out Mido and Oris for very well made manual and automatic Swiss watches.

Don't put any non quartz watch on anything that vibrates, small screws can become loose.

Don't expect a real watch to be as accurate as a quartz watch, it's just not possible.

Watch winders are not cheap, but there are kits available on the web (very easy assembly) for less than $150 for a four watch winder.
Some people have made watch winders using Lego and Meccano :D
Some have the maid wear the watch while she sweeps the floor....... :D

Don't forget these watches need servicing, time between services varies.

denver
01-01-2010, 11:25 AM
I have 2 watches, one is an automatic watch...honestly it can be quite a hassle to use sometime. I dont wear my watch at home, especially at home during the weekend. So everytime I want to use the automatic watch, most of the time it has stopped already and I have to shake it a few times to wind it up and set the time and date. Nowadays I use my automatic watch less and less, and instead prefered my battery operated watch better. Just pickup and go. Easy. If I use my automatic watch, then need to shake shake, set time, set date, then go.

I guess if you have 2 watches, and you regularly swapped between the two, then yeah, you need to wind the automatic watch every time. But if you just have 1 watch, and its automatic, and you wear it all the time, then it should be okay.

BMW9700
01-01-2010, 01:39 PM
i have a TAG professional chrono,battery, silver with the metal band...its 9 years old...wear it everyday...knocks and scratches and only changed the battery and it works and as accurate as can be from day one..

bslee
01-01-2010, 01:49 PM
I happen to have an unused (never worn out before, not even once) still in a nice box/with manuals Tissot gents wristwatch. The mechanism have a nice unique feature and reflects lovely Swiss made technology. I'll look at the model and willing to let go if offer price is right. Anyone?
PM me for further comms.

Hiliary
01-01-2010, 04:05 PM
I happen to have an unused (never worn out before, not even once) still in a nice box/with manuals Tissot gents wristwatch. The mechanism have a nice unique feature and reflects lovely Swiss made technology. I'll look at the model and willing to let go if offer price is right. Anyone?
PM me for further comms.


A few Tissot for sale in Malaysia to get an idea of value,
http://irhomdeys.blogspot.com/search/label/TISSOT

Check watchnet.com
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=threadt&frm_id=85&rid=0

patrick
01-01-2010, 05:50 PM
i have a TAG professional chrono,battery, silver with the metal band...its 9 years old...wear it everyday...knocks and scratches and only changed the battery and it works and as accurate as can be from day one..

Yea me too have a such a Tag and no problem. Used to have a Rolex but problem of adjusting after no wearing for a while. Also, when you dont wear often, got to send for service and it cost a bomb just to service! So decided to sell it off and take profit!!

Nowadays prefer battery watches....less hassle. But the other problem is because I have 20 over watches, I got to keep changing battery of some of the watches now and then! Cant win them all, I guess!

:confused:

patrick
01-01-2010, 05:52 PM
I happen to have an unused (never worn out before, not even once) still in a nice box/with manuals Tissot gents wristwatch. The mechanism have a nice unique feature and reflects lovely Swiss made technology. I'll look at the model and willing to let go if offer price is right. Anyone?
PM me for further comms.


Tissot is a good watch, and I collect watches. Can post a pic here ka BS? If I like the design.....maybe can consider!!! Thanks.

bslee
01-01-2010, 06:10 PM
Tissot is a good watch, and I collect watches. Can post a pic here ka BS? If I like the design.....maybe can consider!!! Thanks.

Its a Chrono model PR50, gold and white face. More of gentleman's design rather than sporty, I think. PM or call me to deal?..

patrick
01-01-2010, 06:25 PM
Its a Chrono model PR50, gold and white face. More of gentleman's design rather than sporty, I think. PM or call me to deal?..

Can plse post here or email me a pic plse? Have checked online but even PR50 got many design and models. But none with gold and white face, so must be earlier model. Some model even with leather strap! Thnks.

bslee
01-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Here you are.

robertec
01-01-2010, 09:44 PM
looks very impressive.

What would be a fair price?

Fang Su
02-01-2010, 11:44 AM
I have 2 watches, one is an automatic watch...honestly it can be quite a hassle to use sometime. I dont wear my watch at home, especially at home during the weekend. So everytime I want to use the automatic watch, most of the time it has stopped already and I have to shake it a few times to wind it up and set the time and date. Nowadays I use my automatic watch less and less, and instead prefered my battery operated watch better. Just pickup and go. Easy. If I use my automatic watch, then need to shake shake, set time, set date, then go.

I guess if you have 2 watches, and you regularly swapped between the two, then yeah, you need to wind the automatic watch every time. But if you just have 1 watch, and its automatic, and you wear it all the time, then it should be okay.

You are absolutely spot on. I have two watches, one is an automatic and one is battery operated. I always try to wear the automatic one because I have this crazy fear that there may come a situation where I need to know the time and the battery dies. I do not have to be in an exotic place such as in the castle of Count Dracula in Transyvannia or trekking in the upper Amazon River in Venezeula. I may be just on my own in the backwaters of Malaysia.

besitai2007
02-01-2010, 05:21 PM
Fang Su, I have a similar Tissot as shown http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc1076/th_23761_tissot_122_1076lo.jpg
I could not figure out the moon cycles in the lower face. This watch was bought in 1986 in Jaya Jusco, Melaka. Has served me well. The leather strap is kaput through age and I have replaced it with a metal non-Tissot bracelet. The circuit board failed last year and I had it replaced in a watch shop in SS14 Subang Jaya. The thing I hate about this watch is that when you adjust the date too far ahead it takes a long time to readjust the month, day of the week and time as it does not have separate buttons for them. Dare not pull the button on the right side too far as I yanked it all out a few years back. I now use a cheaper digital Casio which I can throw away if it is rosak. Alternatively I look at my handphone. Waiting for the talking or chiming digital watch to be invented. Also if you wear an expensive watch like a Rolex you may have your wrist chopped off :p

bslee
02-01-2010, 05:45 PM
Wooo!.. the sudden interst in Tissot watch. I wonder what happened with other brands like Mido, Rado, and many more Swiss watches (can't recall so many others) I used to see few decades ago.

Personally I don't have a high regard for Tag watches. They used to be run of the mill but in recent decades, they've rocketted themselves in sponsorship, advertising and very aggressive marketing. I may be wrong, but their prices have gone through the roof or doubled at least! My late brother bought one in the late 80's for RM700. Last few years, I saw a similar model for Rm1,700. My brother's one doesn't look good anymore after so may years and very worn external plating and discolored. Doesn't refect the build quality that its supposed to have. A good watch to keep and use indefinitely is a Rolex or probably an Omega. Just that prices are just obscene! I've had my Tudor chrono (poor man's Daytona) for 25 years now and its still ticking good as ever. My other is Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 re-issue acquired 10 years ago from Wata Time. The speedmaster have a sapphire transparent back cover and probably collectible status by now. Have willed each of it to my 2 sons...hahah!
Thinking of getting a el-cheapo Casio from Mydin, my last one called it a day!.

jimmyay
02-01-2010, 05:59 PM
How tough are digital watches? I was thinking of that too. Can they take the constant rain and shine? I do not like taking off my watches so it should be able to handle showers, rain, swimming, high altitude and intense vibration.

G-Shock is good. Reasonable priced, quality, trendy and look tough. Wear it during all my sports.. swimming, running & hiking.

bslee
02-01-2010, 06:02 PM
G-Shock is good. Reasonable priced, quality, trendy and look tough. Wear it during all my sports.. swimming, running & hiking.

I suppose G-Shock was designed with that in mind, all the general abuse it can take.

patrick
02-01-2010, 06:32 PM
Fang Su, I have a similar Tissot as shown .......... Also if you wear an expensive watch like a Rolex you may have your wrist chopped off :p

Haha...that's exactly why I didnt want to wear my Rolex and sold it off!!

patrick
02-01-2010, 06:33 PM
Wooo!.. the sudden interst in Tissot watch. I wonder what happened with other brands like Mido, Rado, and many more Swiss watches (can't recall so many others) I used to see few decades ago.
.......... My other is Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 re-issue acquired 10 years ago from Wata Time. The speedmaster have a sapphire transparent back cover and probably collectible status by now. Have willed each of it to my 2 sons...hahah!
Thinking of getting a el-cheapo Casio from Mydin, my last one called it a day!.

Hey, I too used to buy all my expensive watches from Wata Time! Such coincidence!!

bslee
02-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Hey, I too used to buy all my expensive watches from Wata Time! Such coincidence!!

Is it?.. as if Wata Time are only depending on us two blokes?... their business kaput in no time lah :D :D
But I do buy my Mont Blanc roller ball refill from them, not many dealers for these consumables.
Aiyah!...wear the Rolex or whatever ON occasion lah!.. as if we'd like to wear it everywhere we go? I wouldn't!

patrick
02-01-2010, 06:50 PM
Is it?.. as if Wata Time are only depending on us two blokes?... their business kaput in no time lah :D :D
But I do buy my Mont Blanc roller ball refill from them, not many dealers for these consumables.
Aiyah!...wear the Rolex or whatever ON occasion lah!.. as if we'd like to wear it everywhere we go? I wouldn't!

Ha ha..another coincidence. I too have a Mt Blanc roller ball & a fountain pen. In fact since retired, dont use anymore. Wondering if I should dispose of my Mt Blanc Fountain if there is a good offer! :o

bslee
02-01-2010, 06:54 PM
Ha ha..another coincidence. I too have a Mt Blanc roller ball & a fountain pen. In fact since retired, dont use anymore. Wondering if I should dispose of my Mt Blanc Fountain if there is a good offer! :o

I have a set of 3 with MB matching leather case, Pencil, Fountain pen and Roller Ball. Now I wonder why I bought it in the first place. They're the Meisterstuck LeGrand series, the thicker body version. I'm told spares even the tiny bits are HELLAVA EXPENSIVE!

CS Chua
02-01-2010, 10:02 PM
G-Shock is good. Reasonable priced, quality, trendy and look tough. Wear it during all my sports.. swimming, running & hiking.
I googled G shock watches and they look good. Wow, so many models. Some of them do not look like the usual cheap Casio watch. Looks like RM500.00 can buy a good looking one.

kwchang
02-01-2010, 10:26 PM
I googled G shock watches and they look good. .
Go check it out at the shop and you may be disappointed as I was. Those models are so bulky and heavy!

Back to the automatic watches ... I have one Seiko 5 which was really cheap but it was going 1-sec slower everyday. I eventually got another Seiko that runs on a battery. Apart from losing the hassle of keeping it wound up, the non-automatic model kept perfect time. So much for the automatic watches.

Apart from collectors who go for expensive automatics, I cannot understand why anyone would buy automatic watches. Watch batteries aren't really that expensive and the watch-chain store that I buy from gives a 5-year guarantee for batteries which means I get free battery changes within the first 5-years.

CS Chua
02-01-2010, 10:49 PM
I guess it is being old fashioned and wanting to stick to the old world. This is a digital world now and everything is plastic or electronic. One of the few things that one can still relate to the old world is an automatic watch. An automatic watch is an amazing creation with thousands of metal parts working in synchronization. A battery operated watch is but a few pieces of electronic chips and boards soldered together inside.

bugbear
03-01-2010, 12:37 AM
I have worn my Alain Deloin battery watch for 8 years now and as good as ever. Only need to change the battery from time to time. Automatic watches do not interest me due to the constant shaking and wearing.

Fang Su
03-01-2010, 11:04 AM
I guess it is being old fashioned and wanting to stick to the old world. This is a digital world now and everything is plastic or electronic. One of the few things that one can still relate to the old world is an automatic watch. An automatic watch is an amazing creation with thousands of metal parts working in synchronization. A battery operated watch is but a few pieces of electronic chips and boards soldered together inside.

So true. And I still prefer to write on paper using my Mont Blanc which I bought way back in 1982. It was before the present black and gold. My Mont Blanc is completely gold-plated. I think it cost me around RM170 back then. I also use the manual Olivetti typewriter to do my own personal work. It gives a great feeling to type with the rain outside than to watch words popping up on a computer screen.

bslee
03-01-2010, 11:55 AM
There's numerous reasons why anyone prefer or like using old world inventions. It could be a matter of taste, personal preference or just nostalgic and not really our place to exclaim to others when and what not to use even though times have changed or the world expects everyone to move on using new technology. You may still prefer to use the fountain pen all the time for writing, I like using roller ball pens. There you have it. :)

QuietStorm
03-01-2010, 12:01 PM
You may still prefer to use the fountain pen all the time for writing.......or enjoying your favourite songs on vinyl, for that matter. :D

bslee
03-01-2010, 12:04 PM
....or enjoying your favourite songs on vinyl, for that matter. :D

Not entirely that you know... primarily because those LP albums I can't find on CD nor ever re-issued on CD. Not much of a choice eh?
OTH, I can't resist the latest technology for IT related stuff, can't expect me to use a Intel 286 for posting in this forum? (but the PC I'm using now is outdated by at least 10 generations :eek: ) I'd love the latest phones too, but just can't afford it. :D
Allow me to say this, whatever is our personal choice, I think the crux of the matter is our own sensible and pragmatic approach to owning or using anything to our pleasure.
One may own 1 or 10 Rolex watch but would you wear them everyday and to everywhere? Sensibly, not in Malaysia now.
One may own an old 1960's car, if its servicible and the pure pleasure of driving a classic on the highway or countryside purely for pleasure, why not?
I have just about every Teresa Teng, Priscilla Chan, Sam Hui, Cai Qin albums I could find, moreover Teresa is a classic, no competition todate despite dead for more than a decade and belting out songs the younger generation may not exactly absorb in an instant, even calling them old uncle's or grandpa's songs..(My 2 sons would actually run away the moment I flick the amplifier switch) :D

Hiliary
03-01-2010, 02:01 PM
....or enjoying your favourite songs on vinyl, for that matter. :D

There are thousands of us listening to vinyl, some like myself never stopped, and the number grows each year. The demise of the CD is due in part to younger people discovering that vinyl sounds better than any CD and is far superior to any downloaded music file (until you want to carry your music with you).

(i also have a few fountain pens, manual vintage cameras, manual and automatic watches and cars without computers. I do not see myself as a historical freak, i just prefer to purchase and use "stuff" that was designed and built to a higher standard than most throwaway things today) :D :D

bslee
03-01-2010, 02:17 PM
I've a good buddy friend living nearby here, he's really obsessed with things from the past, his place is like a museum records galore, clocks galore, old teak furniture from office to home, amazing collection todate.