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Nick Chia
27-12-2009, 06:43 PM
Every year in Gurney drive, they behave like hooligans and the land of Penang used to be called 'The Pearl of the Orient " is dammed.

locust
27-12-2009, 11:30 PM
I find their unruly behaviour is just shocking. Zero respect for other ppls property.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfp3gzonjtw

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gurney+xmas&search_type=&aq=f

Future generation of Msia?

SiangMalam
28-12-2009, 12:37 AM
I understand the Christmas eve revellers are mostly young teenagers all high either on beer or designer drugs (amphetamines / ecstacy etc). Very shameful behaviour and very immatured group of people.

I am also surprised to see in the video half of these people are young teenage girls. They must think this is hip but instead these are brainless actions... I pity their parents at home. :eek:

irisbaggins
28-12-2009, 12:37 AM
Since they like to spray...perhaps the famous FRU can grant them a Christmas wish with water canons.

besitai2007
28-12-2009, 08:36 AM
The thread title "Penangnites" is a bit unfair to us Penang lang. The behaviour of unruly teenagers is not typical of us Penang people. Seems to be a new trend after the yearly new year shinanigans. Appears that the group created the ruckus during Xmas day came well prepared with sprays. The police should nip this in the bud rather than wait and see for it to happen again.

birdy
28-12-2009, 08:53 AM
Every year in Gurney drive, they behave like hooligans and the land of Penang used to be called 'The Pearl of the Orient " is dammed.
I think it is very unfair for you to judge a rotten apple as whole basket is rotten. I believe everywhere you go, will have this problem. I hope you will correct your settence as "behave like hooligans". It actually offended many Penang people. :mad:

firefox
28-12-2009, 09:43 AM
Every year in Gurney drive, they behave like hooligans and the land of Penang used to be called 'The Pearl of the Orient " is dammed.

A very misleading thread, i may find a few of them unsavoury and boastful but not the folks of Penang as a whole. I was in Penang for xmas had a marvelous time celeberating in the pubs and hotels of Penang road with the local folks.

Nick Chia
28-12-2009, 09:58 AM
I am posting for the fact that the incident happened every Christmas or New Year Eve. I was to visit Penang this week and after seeing the reported unruly chaos, you can't blame me for changing my plans.

I am not putting a blanket blame to penangnites but a few rotten apples surely cast a bad image of the mass . You could do beter by going back home in the next trip and educate everybody and tell them what others felt about such reoccuring incident year after year. So please voice out to your MPs and Aduns , I believe the good majority of penangnites share my thoughts.

Punished those culprits and I am sure the image of Penang will be as like the 'Pearl of the Orient " once again.

kwchang
28-12-2009, 10:38 AM
I have changed the title to "Hooligans in Penang" from the original "Penangites"

Nick Chia
28-12-2009, 10:55 AM
Thank you Chang.

SiangMalam
28-12-2009, 12:18 PM
I am posting for the fact that the incident happened every Christmas or New Year Eve. I was to visit Penang this week and after seeing the reported unruly chaos, you can't blame me for changing my plans.

I am not putting a blanket blame to penangnites but a few rotten apples surely cast a bad image of the mass . You could do beter by going back home in the next trip and educate everybody and tell them what others felt about such reoccuring incident year after year. So please voice out to your MPs and Aduns , I believe the good majority of penangnites share my thoughts.

Punished those culprits and I am sure the image of Penang will be as like the 'Pearl of the Orient " once again.
Nick, I beg to differ. Gurney Drive is just a kilometer long and it has traditionally been a place for celebrations and festivities. Virgin maidens threw their mandarin oranges into the sea during Chap Goh Meii in hope of a good husband, dragon boat races and of course good food and good environment is what this little stretch of road is all about.

There are many hotels and drinking holes here too. These youngsters are not reflective of the Penangites. These youngsters are just misguided and immatured and think that what they are doing is in mode and heroic, how wrong could they be. Penangites are also angry with this incident and I believe the police and the Chief Minister's ofice is getting an earful the last couple of days from residents.

If you look at the teenage crowd during festive seasons or celebrations along Bintang Walk, along Lido Beach in JB etc, its the same behaviour. These young ones have a wrong impression of the 'correct behaviour'.

To label the entire Penang as unfriendly, unruly and even hooliganistic is entirely misplaced.

Hiliary
28-12-2009, 06:44 PM
It's not just the spraying, looks like someone is trying to kick the cars rear lights out.
The driver should have used reverse. Not his fault if he cant see and breaks the legs of the people who are the reason he cannot see.

SiangMalam
28-12-2009, 07:04 PM
It's not just the spraying, looks like someone is trying to kick the cars rear lights out.
The driver should have used reverse. Not his fault if he cant see and breaks the legs of the people who are the reason he cannot see.You cannot do that Ms Hiliary... you don't handle a crowd this way because of "mob instict" and "herd instinct". People in a crowd behave differently - ask any friend in the FRU squad and they will tell you that.

Moreover the young crowd are fully worked up and the adrenaline is pumping high due to excessive drinks and drug use. You will get yourself lynched by the mob if you start something physical there... it is best to suffer and drive slowly out of there.

zinglicious
28-12-2009, 07:34 PM
Yep. a matador can stop a bull but to stop a bull run stampede, that is one big problem even in the stock market :eek: :D :eek:
Just stay way from that path or avoid it, otherwise you get trampled.

Hiliary
28-12-2009, 07:44 PM
You cannot do that Ms Hiliary... you don't handle a crowd this way because of "mob instict" and "herd instinct". People in a crowd behave differently - ask any friend in the FRU squad and they will tell you that.

Moreover the young crowd are fully worked up and the adrenaline is pumping high due to excessive drinks and drug use. You will get yourself lynched by the mob if you start something physical there... it is best to suffer and drive slowly out of there.

So the victim should sue every bar that sold drinks to these kids? Or their parents? The police?
Just let them get away with it?
Look at the video, this is not just "harmless" spraying. You can clearly see one guy kicking the car.

I fully understand the mob and the herd, i find it scary.
I also know that if you quickly isolate or remove a ring leader the mob will fade.
Anyway, back to the guy trying to kick the lights out. Let him try it on my car, he will find out the effects of adrenaline are negated by the effects of pain. I take care of what i work and pay for, and no drunk kid is going to damage what i have worked for.

Sorry i am not being very ladylike, my moniker misleads as i am male.
It made sense when i first thought of using it, something to do with Edmund Hiliary was on the news the day i joined. Now it makes no sense at all :D

SiangMalam
28-12-2009, 08:16 PM
So the victim should sue every bar that sold drinks to these kids? Or their parents? The police?
Just let them get away with it?
Look at the video, this is not just "harmless" spraying. You can clearly see one guy kicking the car.

I fully understand the mob and the herd, i find it scary.
I also know that if you quickly isolate or remove a ring leader the mob will fade.
Anyway, back to the guy trying to kick the lights out. Let him try it on my car, he will find out the effects of adrenaline are negated by the effects of pain. I take care of what i work and pay for, and no drunk kid is going to damage what i have worked for.

Sorry i am not being very ladylike, my moniker misleads as i am male.
It made sense when i first thought of using it, something to do with Edmund Hiliary was on the news the day i joined. Now it makes no sense at all :D
Oh okay... so it was Edmund Hillary the mountaineer you took the moniker from. For a while I thought it was the better half of the ex-US President you shared a name with... :D

Sure, we all want to be Arnie Schwarzanegger or Dirty Harry or even Mel Gibson and whack them kids all blue black and down on the floor. Sadly, that ain't possible, not in a herd or crowd situation. Never even think about it. Just swallow the pride and pick up the broken tail light and walk quietly out of there with your tail between the legs.

Seriously, why do these cars have to drive through Gurney Drive at 12.00 midnight on X'mas Eve? Don't you think it is like asking for it?

Secondly, where were all the cops? Shouldn't they close up the entire Gurney Drive in anticipation of a wild street party?

Hiliary
28-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Oh okay... so it was Edmund Hillary the mountaineer you took the moniker from. For a while I thought it was the better half of the ex-US President you shared a name with... :D

Sure, we all want to be Arnie Schwarzanegger or Dirty Harry or even Mel Gibson and whack them kids all blue black and down on the floor. Sadly, that ain't possible, not in a herd or crowd situation. Never even think about it. Just swallow the pride and pick up the broken tail light and walk quietly out of there with your tail between the legs.

Seriously, why do these cars have to drive through Gurney Drive at 12.00 midnight on X'mas Eve? Don't you think it is like asking for it?

Secondly, where were all the cops? Shouldn't they close up the entire Gurney Drive in anticipation of a wild street party?

I am not built like any of them but i still refuse to back down if someone wants to destroy what is mine.
I agree with you 100% about not putting yourself in a bad situation though, and do practise this but when attacked, sorry i am not running away.

Of course one could always drive away, park the car, walk back and wait for the idiot to be by himself.........
Let's not forget bullies are cowards. I bet the idiot would cry if confronted by himself.

I understand that a police car was also attacked.

zinglicious
28-12-2009, 08:27 PM
They rather close up the streets filled with candlelight vigils than wild parties kicking up the ruckus.:D :p :D

SiangMalam
28-12-2009, 08:30 PM
I am not built like any of them but i still refuse to back down if someone wants to destroy what is mine.
I agree with you 100% about not putting yourself in a bad situation though, and do practise this but when attacked, sorry i am not running away.

Of course one could always drive away, park the car, walk back and wait for the idiot to be by himself.........
Let's not forget bullies are cowards. I bet the idiot would cry if confronted by himself.

I understand that a police car was also attacked.
That would always be my way too, never walk away from a good fight. Somehow in a crowd or mob situation Hiliary, just walk away to fight another day.

Or like you said, park the car somewhere else and join the mob and single him out for some practice... I'd love that too.

Hiliary
28-12-2009, 08:41 PM
That would always be my way too, never walk away from a good fight. Somehow in a crowd or mob situation Hiliary, just walk away to fight another day.

Or like you said, park the car somewhere else and join the mob and single him out for some practice... I'd love that too.

A good fight needs to be very personal (to me) for me to be involved!
OK this was a fairly unusual situation, but i honestly believe that everyone should stand up for themselves in normal day to day life. Sorry but I just can’t take the advice to turn the other cheek.
I also seriously doubt the parenting skills of people who produce offspring such as this and would happily prosecute them.

SiangMalam
28-12-2009, 09:47 PM
A good fight needs to be very personal (to me) for me to be involved!
OK this was a fairly unusual situation, but i honestly believe that everyone should stand up for themselves in normal day to day life. Sorry but I just can’t take the advice to turn the other cheek.
I also seriously doubt the parenting skills of people who produce offspring such as this and would happily prosecute them.It takes all kinds to make the world, Hiliary, it takes all kinds.

There is another section of the Gurney Drive celebrations that night that wasn't uploaded onto Youtube. There was a water fight between 2 groups of childish teenagers in front of the Evergreen Laurel Hotel area... there was a lady all dressed to the hilt in high heels, probably just had her Christmas Eve dinner at a posh place nearby, was strolling along with her beau, also dressed to the hilt. I suppose they must be a courting and in love. Guess what, they drenched the couple with water.... hooliganism at its best!

bugbear
28-12-2009, 10:46 PM
All these ruckus are tarnishing Christ's name and Christians in general. I hate to say this but the truth is that every year it is the non-Christians who are out celebrating Christmas compared to Christians. what a shame.

tsela
01-01-2010, 10:45 AM
Received a mail from a little girl:

Table was full of delicious food, decoration was exquisite and many colourfully wrapped gifts were beneath a tree. I was the guest of honour but I wasn’t invited.

Quietly I entered and stood in a corner. People were drinking and eating. Some were drunk and many laughed at just about everything. A man dressed in red with long white beard walked into the room yelling “Ho Ho Ho” and children quickly ran towards him … as if the party were in his honour!

When the clock struck twelve, people began to hug each other and exchanged gifts … no one hugged me, it was my birthday but I did not receive any gift.

Every year, people get together to party and have fun but they don’t know the meaning of the celebration. They only remembered to drink, eat and gifts. The party was for me but when the great day came, I was left outside.

USJ27Resident
01-01-2010, 09:32 PM
Received a mail from a little girl:

Table was full of delicious food, decoration was exquisite and many colourfully wrapped gifts were beneath a tree. I was the guest of honour but I wasn’t invited.

Quietly I entered and stood in a corner. People were drinking and eating. Some were drunk and many laughed at just about everything. A man dressed in red with long white beard walked into the room yelling “Ho Ho Ho” and children quickly ran towards him … as if the party were in his honour!

When the clock struck twelve, people began to hug each other and exchanged gifts … no one hugged me, it was my birthday but I did not receive any gift.

Every year, people get together to party and have fun but they don’t know the meaning of the celebration. They only remembered to drink, eat and gifts. The party was for me but when the great day came, I was left outside.

goes to show how commercialised, christmas has become! :( :o