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Sentinel
26-12-2009, 12:05 PM
The Defence Minister Zaid Hamidi announced that one F5E jet engine worth RM50 million went missing. The PM reported that it was indeed two jet engines worth RM100 million that actually went missing. Strangely, it was a mainstream paper The NST which broke the news in the first instance - was it planted for a reason?

Anyway, something else is brewing, something bigger, according to this blogger Dr Rafick who used to be a medical officer with the rank of Captain in the RMAF. According to him, a whole lot of other things are actually missing - a whole fleet of Skyhawks (about 55 planes) actually went missing. Read about it HERE. (http://rights2write.wordpress.com/page/3/)

Here's how the A4 Skyhawks look like from McDonnel Douglas....

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee122/GreenBug19/A4Skyhawk.jpg

silver_bird
26-12-2009, 02:52 PM
Missing Jet engines VS Weapon Smugglers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091225/ap_on_re_as/as_thailand_weapons

Sentinel
27-12-2009, 02:16 AM
It was reported by Dr Rafick in the blog that an F5E engine is only about USD1 million and not RM50 million each (USD14 million) which Defence Minister Zahid Hamidi quoted to the press. It was also the NST which broke the news... is there some wayang kulit being played out here we may not know about? Is someone trying to shake up the boss while he was away in Copenhagen? :eek:

bugbear
27-12-2009, 09:43 AM
The Defence Minister Zaid Hamidi announced that one F5E jet engine worth RM50 million went missing. The PM reported that it was indeed two jet engines worth RM100 million that actually went missing. Strangely, it was a mainstream paper The NST which broke the news in the first instance - was it planted for a reason?

Anyway, something else is brewing, something bigger, according to this blogger Dr Rafick who used to be a medical officer with the rank of Captain in the RMAF. According to him, a whole lot of other things are actually missing - a whole fleet of Skyhawks (about 55 planes) actually went missing. Read about it HERE. (http://rights2write.wordpress.com/page/3/)

Here's how the A4 Skyhawks look like from McDonnel Douglas....

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee122/GreenBug19/A4Skyhawk.jpg
These missing skyhawks may just be another Bermuda's triangle disappearance. But in Malaysia, we call it the Malaysia Boleh triangle. :p

silver_bird
27-12-2009, 10:46 AM
AG has no credibility to promise full probe
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/120648

zinglicious
27-12-2009, 11:52 AM
AG has the credilblity to promise futile probe from Lingamgate and F1 to F5 engines. :D :p :D

silver_bird
06-01-2010, 05:23 PM
An Indian Sergeant charged.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/48602-missing-jet-engines-rmaf-man-company-director-to-be-charged

Wah, he is so powerful to steal two jet engines

firefox
06-01-2010, 05:28 PM
Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) sergeant N. Tharmendran and company director K. Rajandran Prasad claimed trial at the Sessions Court in Petaling Jaya on Wednesday over the two missing F5E jet engines.

Is it possible for one man to be involve in transporting out two big engines out of RMAF? He must be a very brainy man to do it all by himself!

Do they think Malaysians are so stupid?

mick123
06-01-2010, 06:10 PM
.......Do they think Malaysians are so stupid?

no they don't, but they do think that one sarge can make m'sians that way!!. i can't believe how this drama is unfolding and the jokes are just getting better as we usher deeper into the new year.

VeeJay
06-01-2010, 10:00 PM
I would this is one of the BEST Joke of the year...for a year beginner! Surely more to come as the year progress.... Msia Truly Boleh

ANy sound minded person would agree that even 007 wouldnt be able to pull this off alone!

Hmmm one question thats bothering is how could an Indian get a scrap contract with the forces....to my knowledge only muslims are eligible?

silver_bird
06-01-2010, 11:08 PM
According to Police, the two engines were transferred from RMAF, Sungai Besi to a place in USJ, Subang Jaya, on Dec 30, 2007, and Jan 1, 2008.

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/news_lite.php?id=466558

Hello USJ residents, did you noticed the two engines existed around your neighbourhood ?

AlanCheng
06-01-2010, 11:54 PM
Malay mail reported today that Company director Rajandran who was charged operated from his office at No. 49, Jalan TS 6/6, Taman Industri Subang, USJ which is not far from Texchem. Alamak, it is a stone throw away from my office. I don't remember hearing the sound of the jet engine when they were tested.

I have a hunch the jet engines were officially shipped out most probably to Singapore where there are facilities for maintenance. All this were done with proper documentation and sign off. But nobody monitor when these engines should be sent back to RMAF base. The sargeant who knew about this situation just exploited the situation and sold them off thru the contact of Rajandran. So it just needed 2 persons to do the job and no need to be high level. Must go and see what kind of office is this place.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/23871-sergeant-and-company-director-charged

usehead
07-01-2010, 01:05 PM
We vow NOT to be fooled;
We must know the truth!

Jennylim
07-01-2010, 02:44 PM
I would this is one of the BEST Joke of the year...for a year beginner! Surely more to come as the year progress.... Msia Truly Boleh

ANy sound minded person would agree that even 007 wouldnt be able to pull this off alone!


Not a jokelah, it is a serious news but not for the minority. It is for the reading of majority. You and I can't contribute much to the vote result if they have the majority votes.

clfoo
08-01-2010, 01:54 AM
wow didn't realize we have stealth engines. on hindsight air force should be proud that they have a genius or david coperfield in the team, can sneak out two engines from high security area and transported without alerting any one, give new definition to one man show and bohsia. in bolehland, the more news power that be reveal to me the more stupid i feel.

zinglicious
08-01-2010, 02:40 AM
Malaysia OO7 Boleh steel, oops steal. Actually there are two double agents of 007 as it was in 2007. :p :D :p

trex92
08-01-2010, 09:47 AM
In today's papers:-

The actual value of an F5E jet engine is RM303,570, said Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

This was based on the Royal Malaysian Air Force’s purchase contract in 1972, including the afterburner, he added.

Okay my dear minister, we, the rakyat, only give you RM303,570 to buy 2 new engines...

Even if it is true (which I doubt!), how in the first can the govt and the Ministry of Defense can screw up the values like this? Are they too stupid to even reports facts and numbers correctly?

Blue Jasmine
08-01-2010, 09:47 AM
Malaysia OO7 Boleh steel, oops steal. Actually there are two double agents of 007 as it was in 2007. :p :D :p


This two man either is a god or something. Amazing they can transfer the two engine all the way to another country by themselves. Very amazing. I propose we send them to the WORLD GENIUS RECORD for this. Anyone want to produce a book about their amazing adventure? Surely can earn huge profit !!!!

StonTemplePilot
08-01-2010, 10:16 AM
In today's papers:-

The actual value of an F5E jet engine is RM303,570, said Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

This was based on the Royal Malaysian Air Force’s purchase contract in 1972, including the afterburner, he added.

Okay my dear minister, we, the rakyat, only give you RM303,570 to buy 2 new engines...

Even if it is true (which I doubt!), how in the first can the govt and the Ministry of Defense can screw up the values like this? Are they too stupid to even reports facts and numbers correctly?

Yes the actual value is that.

But when malaysian govt procure things, the SOP is to multiply the actual value by a factor of 100.

So it is about right then.

jimmyay
08-01-2010, 10:43 AM
Yes the actual value is that.

But when malaysian govt procure things, the SOP is to multiply the actual value by a factor of 100.

So it is about right then.

AGREED WITH 2 HANDS UP
:eek: :eek:

zinglicious
08-01-2010, 12:48 PM
This two man either is a god or something. Amazing they can transfer the two engine all the way to another country by themselves. Very amazing. I propose we send them to the WORLD GENIUS RECORD for this. Anyone want to produce a book about their amazing adventure? Surely can earn huge profit !!!!
I thought 007 is fictional figures. But our 2 double 007 are right here at Bolehland. Now the next question is who is the director? :p :D :p

ivanhow
10-01-2010, 02:26 PM
Malay mail reported today that Company director Rajandran who was charged operated from his office at No. 49, Jalan TS 6/6, Taman Industri Subang, USJ which is not far from Texchem. Alamak, it is a stone throw away from my office. I don't remember hearing the sound of the jet engine when they were tested.

I have a hunch the jet engines were officially shipped out most probably to Singapore where there are facilities for maintenance. All this were done with proper documentation and sign off. But nobody monitor when these engines should be sent back to RMAF base. The sargeant who knew about this situation just exploited the situation and sold them off thru the contact of Rajandran. So it just needed 2 persons to do the job and no need to be high level. Must go and see what kind of office is this place.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/23871-sergeant-and-company-director-charged
Eh fren, your malaymail link not only stale, it has gone busuk lah! The malay mail link cannot be trusted lah! You might end up being sued for posting an unverifiable link. How do you protect yourself (from heing sued by MalayMail) from such an unreliable link? Now they can deny posting any such article you linked to...

USJ27Resident
10-01-2010, 03:05 PM
Yes the actual value is that.

But when malaysian govt procure things, the SOP is to multiply the actual value by a factor of 100.

So it is about right then.


.....reminds me about a similiar directive from the health ministry... (discreetly ask ANY big pharmaceutical company sales managers, and they will verify this...) that Govt health clinics and hospitals are only allowed to procure certain generic medications from certain manufacturers* regardless if the original brandname is cheaper.... now why is that so... :rolleyes:

*and these are the manufacturers that are somehow blessed by the ministry to stay healthy!....* ;)

in fact, when the Health Minister did not dance to the MCA revised tunes - the facts even got leaked out to show that these companies oso give kickbacks/rewards for the tenders & purchases.... :p

Nick Chia
10-01-2010, 03:31 PM
A thief is a thief irrespectable of the amount. This is a serious breach in our RMAF and national security. What a joke ? Thats the mentality of our minister.

Sentinel
10-01-2010, 04:18 PM
In today's papers:-

The actual value of an F5E jet engine is RM303,570, said Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi.

This was based on the Royal Malaysian Air Force’s purchase contract in 1972, including the afterburner, he added.
Just in case the Defence Minister Zaid Hamidi forgets, he also promised Malaysians he will reveal soon the "other equipments" missing from RMAF. But my bet is that he will conveniently forget about this. This is Bolehland - there is no blardy accountability whatsoever!

AlanCheng
10-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Eh fren, your malaymail link not only stale, it has gone busuk lah! The malay mail link cannot be trusted lah! You might end up being sued for posting an unverifiable link. How do you protect yourself (from heing sued by MalayMail) from such an unreliable link? Now they can deny posting any such article you linked to...

I did a google search on the full address and found the same URL given. If still can't get to read the full report as published in the Malay Mail, then wait till the trial begins. I am sure the address will be mentioned again.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/23871-rmaf-sergeant-and-company-director-charged

ivanhow
11-01-2010, 12:52 AM
I did a google search on the full address and found the same URL given. If still can't get to read the full report as published in the Malay Mail, then wait till the trial begins. I am sure the address will be mentioned again.

http://www.mmail.com.my/content/23871-rmaf-sergeant-and-company-director-charged

Hi Alan, I believe you did pull out the correct source for referencing at that point in time, but my point is that if the link goes 'stale' (or invalid) later on, which has happened before, and it happened in this case (displaying "Page not found The requested page could not be found."), then, it cud land you in hot soup. You know what I mean? You were not at fault, but when it becomes a legal issue, it can be to your disadvantage now that the online contents have gone missing.

silver_bird
04-02-2010, 12:58 PM
Compare these two news :-

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/2/4/nation/20100204105820&sec=nation

http://themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/51960-defence-ministry-reveals-leaks-to-foreign-embassy

Defence Minister Zahid Hamidi said Armed Forces have been found to be leaking Defence Ministry secrets to a foreign embassy in the country and issued a stern warning to the individuals responsible.

Take note, only the 2nd news portal reported arm forces revelation of the scandal over two F-5E jet engines that went missing in 2007. If the secret was not revealed, will the Minister (now PM) himself made known to the public of the loss ?

Sentinel
04-02-2010, 01:02 PM
The question is, WHY did this Zaid Hamidi openly divulged the info knowing very well the news will embarrass the ex-Defence Minister at that time (now PM)? Internal power struggle in UMNO? :confused:

silver_bird
04-02-2010, 01:12 PM
Similar topic discussed here :-
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=29423

To avoid parallel discussion, pls avoid replying to this thread.
Thanks