Upper class Grocer

[Chia Hak Soon]

There is a grocer in (Admin note - name removed) which started six months ago. It is near Bandar Utama and doing brisk business. They have varieties and fresh fish from Kuala Selangor daily. The catch is that the prices are exhorbitantly high.
I complain to the supervisor and to my surprise she boldly replied " our store is for higher end and upper class only " The name is (Admin note - name removed). please avoid unless necesary.

[Naka]

Such arrogance, yes, avoid

[jan tomaswaki]

went there 2 weeks ago,yes indeed it only cater for upper market becoz the place is up market mah.anyway some food are import and cannot find in local stores like those in Ampang area where it cater for expats.

[gtl]

it is a free market unless items are controlled items.

[siewdanny]

went there 2 weeks ago,yes indeed it only cater for upper market becoz the place is up market mah.anyway some food are import and cannot find in local stores like those in Ampang area where it cater for expats.
if the expat is staying around there, I don't think they will be travelling all the way to Ampang to get what they need. My friend who was just transferred to US says she is paying US$5.00 for a bottle of soy sauce from an Asian grocer.

[kwchang]

simple rule of life - willing seller, willing buyer

unless you subscribe to a fully moderated life, like in this Forum :rolleyes: :D

No one force you to part with your money ... do they not have price tags?
Aisayyy, now when we go to restaurants, we check the menu (with prices) at the door before deciding to enter .. our choice to stick our necks on the chopping board la

[alberto]

Such arrogance, yes, avoid

not correct! some malaysians are bent in only expensive stuff, its called status quo.thats thier option.

[cskok8]

You can have a plate of nasi lemak for RM 3.50 at a coffee shop or RM 35 at a 5-star hotel. It is your choice.

[tupai]

not correct! some malaysians are bent in only expensive stuff, its called status quo.thats thier option.

koreksion! its not status quo lah. Its a nouveau riche community keeping up with the Phuah Chu Kangs lah... :D

cest la vie...


Yang Bo-Lui latotupai :o

[Naka]

not correct! some malaysians are bent in only expensive stuff, its called status quo.thats thier option.

The first post did not say imported European foods...so i oso tot it was a normal outlet :D :D

[Chia Hak Soon]

Even if it is imported , you don't have to be arrogant.

[Naka]

Even if it is imported , you don't have to be arrogant.

Have I said the wrong thing here? :confused: :D

[tupai]

Even if it is imported , you don't have to be arrogant.
there is a niche chain owned by the ong-tai-kim group from sentul and there , they are very low end,dirty, crowded supermart and its HQ too.

With the influx of IKAs nationwide, this local chain made a strategic decision to go higher end with lessons learned from the 1st outlet in bangsar. U will find that they now have at least 3-4 outlets, but onlyin klang valley. AND yes, the mgmt people in bangsar is equally arrogant and look donw on locals...they have a reputation of bully attitude towards their suppliers too. :eek:

Yang Baca surat layang latotupai :p

[jan tomaswaki]

Even if it is imported , you don't have to be arrogant.
No lah CHS don't get angry,it's just a store,mini supermarket where it cater for people looking for goods not available anywhere,maybe you should visit them,nearest to your place is Jaya 33,next to Jaya supermarket.Anyway the staff were polite,try their garlic bread RM2.99 a pack.

[Chia Hak Soon]

Not at all jan, just inform only. and nothing wrong Naka :D :D

[Rhiga]

I complain to the supervisor and to my surprise she boldly replied " our store is for higher end and upper class only " The name is Jaya Grocer. please avoid unless necesary.

I damn hate and look down on people who possess such attitude.

Upper class?? With money is upper class…..???

One of the good reply to such mmorroon is : “ Ya, look-end people like you is just fit to work here to serve the high end people like me …” :mad:

[AllUrban]

There is a grocer in (Admin note - name removed) which started six months ago. It is near Bandar Utama and doing brisk business. They have varieties and fresh fish from Kuala Selangor daily. The catch is that the prices are exhorbitantly high.
I complain to the supervisor and to my surprise she boldly replied " our store is for higher end and upper class only " The name is (Admin note - name removed). please avoid unless necesary.willing buyer, willing seller. If the food is high quality as compared to the poor quality stuff from Tesco & Carrefour, than what is the issue?

I havent bought meat from Carrefour or veggies & meat from Tesco in 4 years. Either the wet market or Cold Storage for me.

Cheers, m

[AllUrban]

I damn hate and look down on people who possess such attitude.

Upper class?? With money is upper class…..???

One of the good reply to such mmorroon is : “ Ya, look-end people like you is just fit to work here to serve the high end people like me …” :mad:read this article attached: Rich cannot escape poor public infrastructure

Gives you a good sense of what "upper class" actually is.

m notes that our "upper class" areas like Bangsar, Ampang and Sri Hartamas are just as dirty as any other areas...so it's really all in name only.

Cheers, m

[kwchang]

I have removed the name of the shop - it is totally unfair for anyone to downgrade or badmouth a business outlet just because he don't like the shop. If it is bad, the law of averages will take care of it ... the customer decides. Do we need to put such comments plus identify the outlet? Did they have any under-handed process to cheat the customer? As I said, in a willing seller-willing buyer situation, you as the customer decide ... it is not right for you to bad-mouth the outlet.

[jan tomaswaki]

I have removed the name of the shop - it is totally unfair for anyone to downgrade or badmouth a business outlet just because he don't like the shop. If it is bad, the law of averages will take care of it ... the customer decides. Do we need to put such comments plus identify the outlet? Did they have any under-handed process to cheat the customer? As I said, in a willing seller-willing buyer situation, you as the customer decide ... it is not right for you to bad-mouth the outlet.
Agree with you . Don't FITNAH the shop la ! People are doing business.One thing i know is the shop is fully well stock with foriegn and local goods.Chang today is also active today?Is it because of the rainy season or musim mengawat ????

[Chia Hak Soon]

Agreed wiling buyer and wiling seller. Thanks chang for taking out the name.

[tupai]

I have removed the name of the shop - it is totally unfair for anyone to downgrade or badmouth a business outlet just because he don't like the shop. If it is bad, the law of averages will take care of it ... the customer decides. Do we need to put such comments plus identify the outlet? Did they have any under-handed process to cheat the customer? As I said, in a willing seller-willing buyer situation, you as the customer decide ... it is not right for you to bad-mouth the outlet.

I totally disagree.
I will give credit when its due. I will throw a brick at the outlet for disservice.

After throwing the brick, I will not return to spend my money anymore.

BUT if people like Chia Hak Soon didnt warn me...I will end up with such disservice at the same lsly outlet! I thank people like Chia Hak Soon.

Picture this scenario: Downtown Chiangmai next to the Tapae Gate, got a very fierce Puying tigeress, which every friday nite takes a penchance to devour website Moderator. I know of this tigeress very well...but i didnt couldn't warn u cos I cant name the Tigeress, its hunting ground and its taste for website mod... Mati lah liddat! :p

1blur sotong time put your hand into the lubang, then kena bitten by a cobra inside. Second time, still wanna put same hand in same hole meh??

Yang Bernama semua latotupai

p/s if we can name Carrefour on a mass mobile Alert, regarding many issues blahblah..why we cannot name this sombong itsybitsy 1 outlet?

[bslee]

I totally disagree.
I will give credit when its due. I will throw a brick at the outlet for disservice.


True to a large extent, but I do agree its entirely up to any oneself to decide to buy or not, after due consideration of other reasons or factors. Just like one hypermart in USJ, they claim they have best price for some items I frequently buy but its clearly cheaper just next door 50 meters away. I just decide not to buy if the need isn't very urgent. Simple lah.

[Rhiga]

I totally disagree.
I will give credit when its due. I will throw a brick at the outlet for disservice.

After throwing the brick, I will not return to spend my money anymore.

BUT if people like Chia Hak Soon didnt warn me...I will end up with such disservice at the same lsly outlet! I thank people like Chia Hak Soon.

p/s if we can name Carrefour on a mass mobile Alert, regarding many issues blahblah..why we cannot name this sombong itsybitsy 1 outlet?

Agreed with hands and legs….

I think the fundamental is TRUE info.

If the info is true and impartial, then the sender is doing it with good intention – to alert others.

I am not against the shop, I believe and agree on free market- willing buyer and willing seller.

It is the “big small eyes” attitude of the staff that pissed me off…

Perhaps, this is the true reflection of the quality of service industry in this country.

Imagine, if I walk in to the Mikimoto in KLCC with “low-end attire” and with “low-end English”, and they greet me with such comments - “ our store is only cater for high-end people”

I will strike lottery….

[Firebird]

I totally disagree.
I will give credit when its due. I will throw a brick at the outlet for disservice.

After throwing the brick, I will not return to spend my money anymore.

p/s if we can name Carrefour on a mass mobile Alert, regarding many issues blahblah..why we cannot name this sombong itsybitsy 1 outlet?I'm with you here, tupai. Like you, I'm similarly puzzled by the discrimination. Carrefour can hamtam but an arrogant little outlet cannot? Where's the logic? :confused:

[tupai]

I'm with you here, tupai. Like you, I'm similarly puzzled by the discrimination. Carrefour can hamtam but an arrogant little outlet cannot? Where's the logic? :confused:

Discrimination is definitely against the law.

Mod can go to jail, do not pass go. kenot kolec rm200. :D

Yang Bagi justice latotupai :D

[kwchang]

You flers have mixed up the real issues.

The case of car-breakins at the car park is a public security issue - something every member of the public should be made aware of. If I removed the name of the hypermart and you parked your car there and got the car windows broken, I'd have the whole of SJ on my neck for taking away this security warning. Right?

Now this thread deals with an 'arrogant' grocer who was reported to literally tell his customer that he shouldn't be shopping there if he had no class. Is that a public issue that may cause loss of property or compromise your personal security? It was simply an issue of customer satisfaction.

I hope you see the difference.

[firefox]

I have never come across such behaviour from any high end supermarket/Shop..as the saying goes every customer is a potential spender as long as he enters the shop.So how could that staff say such a thing puzzles me :confused:

[StonTemplePilot]

You flers have mixed up the real issues.

The case of car-breakins at the car park is a public security issue - something every member of the public should be made aware of. If I removed the name of the hypermart and you parked your car there and got the car windows broken, I'd have the whole of SJ on my neck for taking away this security warning. Right?

Now this thread deals with an 'arrogant' grocer who was reported to literally tell his customer that he shouldn't be shopping there if he had no class. Is that a public issue that may cause loss of property or compromise your personal security? It was simply an issue of customer satisfaction.

I hope you see the difference.

I dun agree...both instances also, i get robbed.

[AllUrban]

Discrimination is definitely against the law.

Mod can go to jail, do not pass go. kenot kolec rm200. :D

Yang Bagi justice latotupai :Dhahahhah sokong!

But methinks the one-eyed man was looking beyond what those in the land of the blind can see.

Hantam Cr4 for bad service, poor quality of products, non-secure premises - ok, not so bad.

Hantam JayaG for pricing themselves to the "upper class" market and being plain snooty - not so good.

May as well hantam Aeroline or Odyssey for their unbelievably high cost (now rm90 each way) of a bus ticket to Singapore ...

Cheers, m

[AllUrban]

You flers have mixed up the real issues.

The case of car-breakins at the car park is a public security issue - something every member of the public should be made aware of. If I removed the name of the hypermart and you parked your car there and got the car windows broken, I'd have the whole of SJ on my neck for taking away this security warning. Right?

Now this thread deals with an 'arrogant' grocer who was reported to literally tell his customer that he shouldn't be shopping there if he had no class. Is that a public issue that may cause loss of property or compromise your personal security? It was simply an issue of customer satisfaction.

I hope you see the difference.OK now the mod is assuming what the grocer was thinking? Or describing our original poster as having "no class"

Please, let's objective here. The grocer said the grocery store was priced for "high class" and that is that (no implication that if he preferred a cheaper store there are other options).

Everyone, remember the Rolls Royce Commercial tagline

....If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford one.

Cheers, m

[AllUrban]

I dun agree...both instances also, i get robbed.hahahahhaha but in the second case you have "status" ...

Cheers, m

[tupai]

hahahahhaha but in the second case you have "status" ...

Cheers, m

hheheheheh...its always noble to rob from the rich and give it to the poor...
Bolehland corrupted leaders can learn from this minimarket :p


Yang Bo-Lui latotupai :p

[Sentinel]

Willing seller, willing buyer...

Many of us who have been staying in London would remember one Chinese Restaurant named Wong Kee down in Soho... blardy freakin' rude Hong Kong waiters cursing grandmother and grandfather...

Can't even allow you enough time to down the flied lice or the dim sum or the bowl of mee soup...

But it was just 1 pound per meal... cheap and good...

Yet many of us, after being abused verbally left, right and centre...

After our mother, father, grandmother and grandfather get verbally abused day in day out...

We still go back to Wong Kee and eat... because the portion was BIG and the price was CHEAP!

So, willing seller, willing buyer lah....

[kwchang]

I was also a Wong Kee patron .. besides the cheap food, the other drawing factor was the side-show we got when we ate there ... it was fun watching how the waiters abused the new unsuspecting customers :D

We had discussed this some thie ago - have a read (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?p=22928)

[tupai]

I was also a Wong Kee patron .. besides the cheap food, the other drawing factor was the side-show we got when we ate there ... it was fun watching how the waiters abused the new unsuspecting customers :D

We had discussed this some thie ago - have a read (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?p=22928)

They are all not that bad lah... The chief cashier (a hongky guy) was a friend of 1 of my U-mates...whenever we ate there, the bill was tagged as 'Take-away', hence not VAT :D The money 'saved' were usually spent on casino and book-makers lah! HAHAHAHAH! Semua pom Boleh dilondon lah :p


Yang Bayar Zero VAT latotupai :p

[Rhiga]

Please, let's objective here. The grocer said the grocery store was priced for "high class" and that is that (no implication that if he preferred a cheaper store there are other options).

Everyone, remember the Rolls Royce Commercial tagline

....If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford one.

Cheers, m

Well, I purposely want to ask the price and will ask many times.

And with my “low-end attire” plus “low-end ascent of English”, you wanna earn my “high-end money” !!! ;)

[Rhiga]

Everyone, remember the Rolls Royce Commercial tagline

....If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford one.

AllUrban,
I think this tagline is tv commercial of Bentley not Rolls Royce, but I'm not 100% sure.

[AllUrban]

AllUrban,
I think this tagline is tv commercial of Bentley not Rolls Royce, but I'm not 100% sure.Rolls or Bentley (same company now) the message is still clear...the "upper class" with their stiff upper lips look down on others...

hey, let them. Times have changed since the internet revolution ... when a guy who wears dockers + brooks brothers shirt + sweater is the worlds richest man,....

Cheers, m

[bslee]

hey, let them. Times have changed since the internet revolution ... when a guy who wears dockers + brooks brothers shirt + sweater is the worlds richest man,....


Ah..then it'll be a case of "Nearly everyone knows who you are" regardless what you may wear.

[Carolrasiah]

simple rule of life - willing seller, willing buyer

unless you subscribe to a fully moderated life, like in this Forum :rolleyes: :D

No one force you to part with your money ... do they not have price tags?
Aisayyy, now when we go to restaurants, we check the menu (with prices) at the door before deciding to enter .. our choice to stick our necks on the chopping board la
so so true........when it is done in groups..........quite fun too...when some of us wonder how much we are worth on that spot....u know how $ the watch cost for the guys, chain/earrings for gals etc; all said in a loud & clear voice in Chinese dialect. i beat them so join them

[tupai]

so so true........when it is done in groups..........quite fun too...when some of us wonder how much we are worth on that spot....u know how $ the watch cost for the guys, chain/earrings for gals etc; all said in a loud & clear voice in Chinese dialect. i beat them so join them

liddat ah?
Diner#1: Wah! yor loleks how much ah? mine one loleks velly expansif oooo...
wat ear your one ah? mine one 2009 modell one!

Diner#2: liddat ah? Wah! your diemond how big ah? got 1 kalat ah? wheer u buy ah? yr loh-koon give u 1 ah? how much ah?

...and so on & so forth??? :p :p

Yang Berclowning alound latotupai :p

[maxout]

A friend told me that at a certain HIGH-CLASS JEWELLERY outlet in KLCC, they will not even open the door if you are "dressed" in low-end fashion like if you are wearing slippers.

[Rhiga]

A friend told me that at a certain HIGH-CLASS JEWELLERY outlet in KLCC, they will not even open the door if you are "dressed" in low-end fashion like if you are wearing slippers.

I have been working there closed to 10 years and I'm still there. Never heard or seen this before.

The shop owners/assitants are relatively well exposed i.e they know those with big spending power normally don't wear "high-end dress"....

Overall, the service quality from the shops here are ok. The wasabi jwellery shop starts with M particurlarly impressed me.

[maxout]

I have been working there closed to 10 years and I'm still there. Never heard or seen this before.

The shop owners/assitants are relatively well exposed i.e they know those with big spending power normally don't wear "high-end dress"....

Overall, the service quality from the shops here are ok. The wasabi jwellery shop starts with M particurlarly impressed me.

Saga, it would not surprise me if she (my friend) exagerrated, I think it is more the case, they were slow to open the door for her but she was clearly upset when she related the story (this is about 2 years ago) ... she said she had never felt so humiliated ....... as if she was begging to go in

[currymee]

There is a grocer in (Admin note - name removed) which started six months ago. It is near Bandar Utama and doing brisk business. They have varieties and fresh fish from Kuala Selangor daily. The catch is that the prices are exhorbitantly high.
I complain to the supervisor and to my surprise she boldly replied " our store is for higher end and upper class only " The name is (Admin note - name removed). please avoid unless necesary.

OOOpppss, I missed the name :o - KW has already censored so fast - is it a Japanese name shop, by any chance ?

[QuietStorm]

OOOpppss, I missed the name :o - KW has already censored so fast - is it a Japanese name shop, by any chance ?Can't help you there. I forgot! :o PM Chia. :)

[currymee]

Can't help you there. I forgot! :o PM Chia. :)

Thanks, will do that :)

[SingaporeEhSai!]

not fully censored la....go read post #17...hehehe

[kwchang]

Thank you SingaporeEhSai!, I missed that one ;) :D

[Sentinel]

Saga, it would not surprise me if she (my friend) exagerrated, I think it is more the case, they were slow to open the door for her but she was clearly upset when she related the story (this is about 2 years ago) ... she said she had never felt so humiliated ....... as if she was begging to go inThen why go in? Just walk away lah if she felt she was humiliated... why bother to go in and then complain? Aiyah...

[yvonnefoong]

OK now the mod is assuming what the grocer was thinking? Or describing our original poster as having "no class"

Please, let's objective here. The grocer said the grocery store was priced for "high class" and that is that (no implication that if he preferred a cheaper store there are other options).

Everyone, remember the Rolls Royce Commercial tagline

....If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford one.

Cheers, m


Hahaha! I love the tagline!

I believe the staff was merely echoing his or her company's mission that it has set for itself. The mission is catering to those willing to spend more on groceries. It's only business, nothing personal.

We shouldn't be quick to act defensively. If we don't care about class stratification, nothing can hurt us.

If we feel hurt, then we DO care about our net worth.

Here is a food of thought. It's always the helplessly poor people who tend to be bitter and blame the rich for their predicaments.

[currymee]

Then why go in? Just walk away lah if she felt she was humiliated... why bother to go in and then complain? Aiyah...

Maxout88, Sentinel is right - your friend should have just walked away. I am sure there are alternatives / substitutes unless that is the only brand shop in town and she desperately wanted that particular branded item - not much choice then.

[QuietStorm]

Maxout88, Sentinel is right - your friend should have just walked away.I'll never buy from shops with cut-throat prices unless it's a matter of life and death! :p

[Rhiga]

Hahaha! I love the tagline!

I believe the staff was merely echoing his or her company's mission that it has set for itself. The mission is catering to those willing to spend more on groceries. It's only business, nothing personal.

We shouldn't be quick to act defensively. If we don't care about class stratification, nothing can hurt us.

If we feel hurt, then we DO care about our net worth.

Here is a food of thought. It's always the helplessly poor people who tend to be bitter and blame the rich for their predicaments.

Hi Yvonne

I think Mr. Chia won’t post this experience if the tune from the staff was merely enchoing the company's mission.

We all know, the content of the message is secondary, the way/tune of the person expressing it is the key.

Under normal circumstances people will react to this unpleasant shopping experience, not so much related to hurting a person due to class stratification or caring of net worth.

I believe in fair and unbiased customer service. A begger money or a doctor money is the same good money, both should entitle for the same customer service, no such thing of upper or lower class. A savvy businessman will know and will do the right way to attract and retain customer.

As I said before, I damn hate people who posses such biased attitude. It is a form of discrimination.

We should react when being discriminated due to race, religion, gender, net worth and the list goes on.

One of the most effective ways is to alert others and boycott the store/product. Just like I have boycotted the Tommy Hilfiger cologne and apparels.

Cheers

[Chia Hak Soon]

You are welcome to indulge , here are some examples;-
3 pcs of ikan kembong (mid size) --rm8.75
1 pc 3inches young ginger- rm1.95
4 pcs bananas (phi)-rm4.95
2pcs fresh sotong (mid-size )-rm3.45
curry leaves (1 packet)-rm1.75
big size sea prawns - 65.00 per kg
chilled lamb cutlets -1 pc --rm6.75

[jan tomaswaki]

You are welcome to indulge , here are some examples;-
3 pcs of ikan kembong (mid size) --rm8.75
1 pc 3inches young ginger- rm1.95
4 pcs bananas (phi)-rm4.95
2pcs fresh sotong (mid-size )-rm3.45
curry leaves (1 packet)-rm1.75
big size sea prawns - 65.00 per kg
chilled lamb cutlets -1 pc --rm6.75
Should you like salmon,trout ,cutlet or whole fish ,why not go to Unifrozen in jalan 2,sg besi very cheap and fresh.I think next week they arrive black cod,2 pcs of salmon about RM12

[SingaporeEhSai!]

i had met an young lady expatriate on a liveonboard and she mentioned she will never shop at NTUC (similar like giant, carrefour etc type of supermarket) and she preferr Cold Storage or similarly higher end shops..I was thinking, the toothpaste, canned food, can drinks (same branded) is higher class meh?

Paying more money for same items is akin to the classic Emperor's New Clothes story....

[Chia Hak Soon]

Thanks Jan , I used to buy bulk from Pok Brothers for my BBQ sting.My next cater is to roast a three whole piglets for 30 paxs.

[yvonnefoong]

Hi Yvonne

I think Mr. Chia won’t post this experience if the tune from the staff was merely enchoing the company's mission.

We all know, the content of the message is secondary, the way/tune of the person expressing it is the key.

Under normal circumstances people will react to this unpleasant shopping experience, not so much related to hurting a person due to class stratification or caring of net worth.

I believe in fair and unbiased customer service. A begger money or a doctor money is the same good money, both should entitle for the same customer service, no such thing of upper or lower class. A savvy businessman will know and will do the right way to attract and retain customer.

As I said before, I damn hate people who posses such biased attitude. It is a form of discrimination.

We should react when being discriminated due to race, religion, gender, net worth and the list goes on.

One of the most effective ways is to alert others and boycott the store/product. Just like I have boycotted the Tommy Hilfiger cologne and apparels.

Cheers

Hi Sagamihara,

In this case, his dissatisfaction was towards the salesperson who is an employee of that supermarket and not the market or its mission per se. How about directing his opinion at the right party?

Tell the supervisor about this employee's unsatisfactory demeanour rather than attacking the supermarket.

I would like to see the supermarket myself one day because not only the value of goods, but ambiance and amount of customer service is factored into the price as well. How many of us here drink Starbucks?

[Sentinel]

The famous Fei Lo Char Kuey Teow fella at PJ State used to bellow that impatient customers "Cannot wait don't eat" (in Cantonese but his shop is always full...

When he moved to Kelana Jaya, all the customers also followed him there...

How do you explain this? Isn't it back to "willing seller, willing buyer"?

Not happy? Buy the shop and shut it down... habis cerita!

[twohands]

Thanks Jan , I used to buy bulk from Pok Brothers for my BBQ sting.My next cater is to roast a three whole piglets for 30 paxs.


Pok brothers sells to normal consumers too? not just restaurants? could you also please tell me where is pok brothers located? i'd like to purchase some items too

[AllUrban]

Just like I have boycotted the Tommy Hilfiger cologne and apparels.

Cheersok, Im curious,why boycott Tommy Hilfiger? Cheers, m

[AllUrban]

I would like to see the supermarket myself one day because not only the value of goods, but ambiance and amount of customer service is factored into the price as well. How many of us here drink Starbucks?I dont, unless I am having a meeting there. Coffee Bean is cheaper and has more variety ... and they have meals too.

Not that I go there that often either. Speaking of ambiance, to a google search about the upscale McDonald's restaurants (lounges) now being introduced in New York

Cheers, m

[Rhiga]

ok, Im curious,why boycott Tommy Hilfiger? Cheers, m

Tommy Hilfiger has stated that his products are only fit for white Caucasian, not for inferior coloured people.

[AllUrban]

Tommy Hilfiger has stated that his products are only fit for white Caucasian, not for inferior coloured people.I thought that was just a rumour. m just stopped wearing the merchandise ever since it started to get too preppy and too bright and loud.

Cheers, m

[Rhiga]

1. He admitted in Oprah show that his products are designed for White, not for coloured people. Oprah asked him to leave the show.

Let assume (1) is also a rumor.

2. In a logical business sense, if one brand was tainted with such rumor. First thing for the brand owner to do is to clarify the rumor. He did not.

Based on (1) and (2), it is not a rumor.

[Sentinel]

Tommy Hilfiger has stated that his products are only fit for white Caucasian, not for inferior coloured people.
Brader, the email reports stated Tommy Hilfiger said that in The Oprah Winfrey Show and this was denied by both Tommy Hilfiger and Oprah herself. It was a hoax and has been cleared up years back.

[syltel]

Tommy Hilfiger has stated that his products are only fit for white Caucasian, not for inferior coloured people.

Tommy Hilfiger never made those remarks. It was all a vicious rumor that made it's way around through emails and word of mouth. This comment was said to have been made when Hilfiger was a guest on either of the following TV shows: Oprah, The Ricki Lake Show, CNN Style with Elsa Klensch, or Larry King Live.However, these productions have made it clear that Hilfiger has never appeared on any episode of their show.

[Rhiga]

Brader, the email reports stated Tommy Hilfiger said that in The Oprah Winfrey Show and this was denied by both Tommy Hilfiger and Oprah herself. It was a hoax and has been cleared up years back.

I followed-up this closely, I did not see clear evidence that he actually denied such rumor. I read different languages of paper, not just English and Mandarin paper in Malaysia but Mandarin papers from mainland and Taiwan. This is to get other info/opinion apart from the mainstream western media.

Maybe I overlooked something, if you guys have a link that indicate he actually denied such racist remarks (genuinely or for business purpose), pls let me know.

Cheers

[syltel]

1. He admitted in Oprah show that his products are designed for White, not for coloured people. Oprah asked him to leave the show.

Let assume (1) is also a rumor.

2. In a logical business sense, if one brand was tainted with such rumor. First thing for the brand owner to do is to clarify the rumor. He did not.

Based on (1) and (2), it is not a rumor.

Aiyoh...this was also a rumor!! That never happened at all. Oprah during that time have never met Tommy nor interviewed him....She has made a statement that, that never happened at all. After those rumors, Oprah invited Tommy to clear up that rumor... here is part of that interview on oprah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-hp9DqNSU (http://)

[Rhiga]

Aiyoh...this was also a rumor!! That never happened at all. Oprah during that time have never met Tommy nor interviewed him....She has made a statement that, that never happened at all. After those rumors, Oprah invited Tommy to clear up that rumor... here is part of that interview on oprah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-hp9DqNSU (http://)

Thanks syltel for the link

[syltel]

oops, I think that link is not working... let me try again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-hp9DqNSU

[fongkimseng]

There are ALL SORTS of people in this world and also in Malaysia, so we should not be at all surprised if we meet with people with ALL SORTS of behaviour and character - I recommend just SMILE and walk away whenever you meet such people .... less stress and tension :)

It is good that you regular forumers let us know about it, but don't work yourself up to a frenzy, watch the blood pressure .... I am only starting to post now after having got a new computer last week with Streamyx broadband, before that dial-up was so slow, only good enough for reading the forum and nothing fancy.

[Rhiga]

There are ALL SORTS of people in this world and also in Malaysia, so we should not be at all surprised if we meet with people with ALL SORTS of behaviour and character - I recommend just SMILE and walk away whenever you meet such people .... less stress and tension :)

It is good that you regular forumers let us know about it, but don't work yourself up to a frenzy, watch the blood pressure .... I am only starting to post now after having got a new computer last week with Streamyx broadband, before that dial-up was so slow, only good enough for reading the forum and nothing fancy.

You are right. Having plain response is good for health.

But sometimes, if everything is just plain, no emotion, just smile at it, life can be a little bit too boring.

Just my 2 cents. Cheers

[firefox]

There are ALL SORTS of people in this world and also in Malaysia, so we should not be at all surprised if we meet with people with ALL SORTS of behaviour and character - I recommend just SMILE and walk away whenever you meet such people .... less stress and tension :)



For some its too diffiuclt, but sure glad there are many like you out there who make this world a better place.
Cheers.

[Nick Chia]

Two hands, Pok Brothers is located in Glenmarie , from Eon showroom hit straight after third traffic light turn right, or dail 103 and ask them to guide you.

However they do not sell loose. for meat minimum 5 kg and above. Most of meat are frozen and you can ask them to saw for you. It takes 6 hours to defroze and it is very fresh.

[twohands]

Two hands, Pok Brothers is located in Glenmarie , from Eon showroom hit straight after third traffic light turn right, or dail 103 and ask them to guide you.

However they do not sell loose. for meat minimum 5 kg and above. Most of meat are frozen and you can ask them to saw for you. It takes 6 hours to defroze and it is very fresh.


Thanks Nick for the directions and the info. Doesn't matter if they don't sell loose, can get a few friends together and buy :)