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firefox
14-11-2009, 04:07 PM
I hear that some herbs grown and found in our country can really reduce the level of diabetes, blood pressure and improve the kidney functions.
I know of two, Kuching misai and sambung nyawa.
Has anyone any experience of consuming these herbs or any others and as a result shown some improvements.
Just wondering what have been said about these herbs are true.
Thanks.

tupai
14-11-2009, 04:32 PM
wata coincident! Yesterday I yanked out very big roots of some 3-4buncha Pandanus amaryllifolius or in Blur Simple lingo, pandan leaves lah :p to give to a friend who is having the on-set of hand arthritis (too much free time on pc tapping on usj forum perhaps!) :p

he was to plant those bunches and to take some of the leaves, boil with big pot/kettle of water and then drink it everyday as plain water substitute.

Another friend has a 5acre pandanus amaryllifolius farm solely for export to taiwan...Yup, they drink pandanus amaryllifolius flavored water...Y ah/ I also dunno...must be for medicinal values, cos i dont see pandanus amaryllifolius cake or chicken there! :p

...btw, the thais use pandan flavoured water to make tea, smells nice :)

Yang Bertanam daun pandan latotupai :p

bslee
14-11-2009, 04:39 PM
I can't say for sure but if you compare the Indonesians for consuming their herbal "jamu" since very young, maintaining that way, its proven how beneficial it can be. Taking herbal stuff just like that and starting late may not do much. Its also perhaps the kind of diet and outside food we often consume poisons our body constantly, just overwhelm and may negate whatever herbal remedy that may lay claim to do good. Of course for those who're quite careful of what they eat, along with herbal remedies and vitamin supplements could be most beneficial on the long run.
Yang bukan healthy expeert tapi fikiran aloud!

Fabe18
14-11-2009, 05:12 PM
My garden got this plant which can lower blood sugar level for diabetics. Eat 5-10 leaves raw. My mum past this plants around and it helped many with diabetes, young and old... But it's not a cure, it just helped to lower the blood sugar level so that one may not need to depend solely on medication...

Don't know what's the name but pretty easy to grow... Just cut and plant the stem... No flower, no seeds...

VeeJay
14-11-2009, 05:40 PM
Don't know what's the name but pretty easy to grow... Just cut and plant the stem... No flower, no seeds...

Is it aloe vera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloe_vera) ?

Fabe18
14-11-2009, 05:54 PM
Is it aloe vera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloe_vera) ?

Nope... Aloe Vera is too common not to know... :p
The leaves are like normal thin leaves.. with a slight minty refreshing taste when u chew it...

Sentinel
14-11-2009, 06:37 PM
I hear that some herbs grown and found in our country can really reduce the level of diabetes, blood pressure and improve the kidney functions.
I know of two, Kuching misai and sambung nyawa.
Has anyone any experience of consuming these herbs or any others and as a result shown some improvements.
Just wondering what have been said about these herbs are true.
Thanks.
My friend, its Misai Kuching, not Kuching Misai... Google it and you can read about it too!

You can get Misai Kuching commercially packed in tea satchets. Just dip the stachet in hot boiling water and drink down a big mug or two a day. You just ask for Misai Kuching and its available in most local pharmacies.

The other way is to plant it in your own backyard. The more leaves you pluck, the faster the plant grow... it worked for many people. Some actually claimed they need not take their diabetic medication after they controlled their sugar with the consumption of these leaves. Oh, its damn bitter okay!

VeeJay
14-11-2009, 07:28 PM
Nope... Aloe Vera is too common not to know... :p
The leaves are like normal thin leaves.. with a slight minty refreshing taste when u chew it...

ok...let me second guess here...is it Holy Basil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi), also known as Tulsi in Indian language

Carolrasiah
14-11-2009, 08:14 PM
wata coincident! Yesterday I yanked out very big roots of some 3-4buncha Pandanus amaryllifolius or in Blur Simple lingo, pandan leaves lah :p to give to a friend who is having the on-set of hand arthritis (too much free time on pc tapping on usj forum perhaps!) :p

he was to plant those bunches and to take some of the leaves, boil with big pot/kettle of water and then drink it everyday as plain water substitute.

Another friend has a 5acre pandanus amaryllifolius farm solely for export to taiwan...Yup, they drink pandanus amaryllifolius flavored water...Y ah/ I also dunno...must be for medicinal values, cos i dont see pandanus amaryllifolius cake or chicken there! :p

...btw, the thais use pandan flavoured water to make tea, smells nice :)

Yang Bertanam daun pandan latotupai :p
yuk! u mean drink it? :)

Fabe18
15-11-2009, 12:31 AM
ok...let me second guess here...is it Holy Basil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi), also known as Tulsi in Indian language

Not this one... No flower one.... Leaves similar but more longish...

BTW, my FIL had a stroke couple of years back, he had diabetes prior to that... When he was in the hospital recovering, was having this leaves and it controlled the blood sugar almost with overnight results.. And he liked it bcos it's minty, not bitter.. Very easy to eat...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/fabianyee/1102201.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/fabianyee/11022006.jpg

More photos later...

firefox
15-11-2009, 08:25 AM
Nope... Aloe Vera is too common not to know... :p
The leaves are like normal thin leaves.. with a slight minty refreshing taste when u chew it...

Yes thats the one its call sambung nyawa and i have it grown in my garden, tried it out this morning taste good too.
Easy to grow but there are still some more different herbs where the leaves are very similar..of course its not tulisi or aloe vera.

I rather consume the leaves then trying out the processed ones.

Btw there is a scary report on diabetes in the Star today and Malaysia ranks 17..Teh tarik is a killer!! Read it.
So do take a blood test, you would never know.


Thanks Fabe for the photos.

gloss
15-11-2009, 08:44 AM
i'm drinking one kind of tree's skin, not sure scientific name for it. but it's function is to improve kidney function and reduce blood pressure. so far so good for me.

Jey
15-11-2009, 10:09 AM
ok...let me second guess here...is it Holy Basil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi), also known as Tulsi in Indian language

No, its not Tulsi. But Tulsi is no less a medicinal plant on its own.

"Recent studies suggest that Tulsi may be a COX-2 inhibitor, like many modern painkillers, due to its high concentration of eugenol (1-hydroxy-2-methoxy-4-allylbenzene).[10][11] One study showed Tulsi to be an effective treatment for diabetes by reducing blood glucose levels.[12] The same study showed significant reduction in total cholesterol levels with Tulsi. Another study showed that Tulsi's beneficial effect on blood glucose levels is due to its antioxidant properties.[13] Tulsi also shows some promise for protection from radiation poisoning[14] and cataracts.[15]"

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi

firefox
15-11-2009, 02:44 PM
i'm drinking one kind of tree's skin, not sure scientific name for it. but it's function is to improve kidney function and reduce blood pressure. so far so good for me.

A photo might be of some help.
Herbal medications have lesser side effects or none

gloss
15-11-2009, 05:18 PM
A photo might be of some help.
Herbal medications have lesser side effects or none

This are the photos of tree's skin I've mentioned earlier.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/chinhaur/DSC07655.jpg

firefox
16-11-2009, 08:54 AM
Thanks Gloss, i have really not seen such a thing, maybe i need the help of the chinese medical hall chaps on this one.

Sentinel
16-11-2009, 11:16 AM
My wife just pointed out a plant grown in the garden of our next door neighbor and she informed me that this is the plant where most people consume to control their glucose level and many diabetes sufferers swear by it. Here's a picture of one of the shoots that I have plucked from my neighbor's plant:

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee122/GreenBug19/Herbs.jpg

I have had this plant grown in the garden of a bakery I worked in previously in Shah Alam and many of my colleagues were eating the leaves raw and some plucked them to take home to brew tea from the leaves. I mentioned "bitter" in an earlier post and these leaves are really bitter, yuck!

I am not sure whats the scientific name but locals refer to it as "the african plant". Most Chinese people I meet claimed to be helped tremendously by this plant and that was why I had my staff plant a few trees in the yard at our Shah Alam factory.

Sentinel
16-11-2009, 09:14 PM
My wife just pointed out a plant grown in the garden of our next door neighbor and she informed me that this is the plant where most people consume to control their glucose level and many diabetes sufferers swear by it. Here's a picture of one of the shoots that I have plucked from my neighbor's plant:

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee122/GreenBug19/Herbs.jpg

I have had this plant grown in the garden of a bakery I worked in previously in Shah Alam and many of my colleagues were eating the leaves raw and some plucked them to take home to brew tea from the leaves. I mentioned "bitter" in an earlier post and these leaves are really bitter, yuck!

I am not sure whats the scientific name but locals refer to it as "the african plant". Most Chinese people I meet claimed to be helped tremendously by this plant and that was why I had my staff plant a few trees in the yard at our Shah Alam factory.
Wifey just told me the Chinese name for this herbs good for diabetes sugar control is "Nam Fei Chow" (African Leaves).

firefox
17-11-2009, 03:04 PM
Thanks all, i have all the herbs i want, i already feel healthy.

usehead
17-11-2009, 04:14 PM
All medicinal products have side-effects. Make sure u know the necessary information before trying. Secondly, beware of bad products with poor quality control ie lack of purity, presence of toxic contaminants or absence of important bioactive components.

patrick
17-11-2009, 07:04 PM
Wifey just told me the Chinese name for this herbs good for diabetes sugar control is "Nam Fei Chow" (African Leaves).

Actually the full name is South African leaves, as correspond to the Chinese name. And yes...it's very, very bitter but after a while, one gets use to it. But watch it, it's very cooling for some people. So your legs may go soft! So... check your own body constitution first.

Sentinel
17-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Thanks all, i have all the herbs i want, i already feel healthy.I thought that when youstarted this thread, you had the intention to share information and tell the forumers about the local herbs but instead all you were interested were more info and once the list is 'almost complete' you just go on to say you have all the herbs and you feel healthy. Thats very very selfish.

tupai
18-11-2009, 12:50 AM
papaya leaves can increase red blood cells...but can damage the liver at the same time. :eek:
Cancer stricken patients do take this as a supplement after a chemo session but they didnt know that the liver acts up too... pelik tapi benar. :eek:

Yang Berinformasi 1st hand latotupai

firefox
18-11-2009, 08:42 AM
Yes tupai, and i was told that papaya leaves can also be used to tenderise meats and the malays make a special dish out of papaya young leaves.off course papayas are the best natural laxative.

zinglicious
18-11-2009, 08:51 AM
Is it papaya skin or papaya leavesto tenderize the meat???? I am sure the papya has got papain, but leaves?

patrick
18-11-2009, 10:35 AM
papaya leaves can increase red blood cells...but can damage the liver at the same time. :eek:
Cancer stricken patients do take this as a supplement after a chemo session but they didnt know that the liver acts up too... pelik tapi benar. :eek:

Yang Berinformasi 1st hand latotupai

Wow...didnt know that! There's a doctor in Kedah who propagates the use of papaya leaves for cancer patients. ..

alberto
18-11-2009, 10:40 AM
Is it papaya skin or papaya leavesto tenderize the meat???? I am sure the papya has got papain, but leaves?


hello mr cook how to cover the meat with skin, not possible no? :confused:

zinglicious
18-11-2009, 11:00 AM
Some people mean to cook with the papaya or banana skin but mean chef like me only meant to use it to tenderize (as in marinate) before cooking. the skin is discarded akin to kacang lupakan kulit.:cool:
BTW, you didnt eat the kulit, do you? :D

palmdoc
18-11-2009, 12:27 PM
Sharing a link from Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/herbal-supplements/SA00044/rss=1

zinglicious
18-11-2009, 05:42 PM
You Da Man, I read about this but dont know how to locate these pages. :)
and what is labeled as natural by FDA is not required to be 100% pure ingredients, just 90% ( or 80% ) is deemed suffficient. :rolleyes:

RolyPoly
19-11-2009, 02:18 PM
I was fed juice extracted from papaya leaves when I had dengue last year. It helps to stop my platelet count from dropping further. Not sure how it works but many friends told me that it'd work. So I consume it and it truly helped.

The juice was really bitter and the smell makes me want to puke. Fortunately I only took one dosage and my condition improved. I doubt I would want to take a 2nd one! It tasted terrible.

RolyPoly
19-11-2009, 02:45 PM
My family consumes tea brewed using dried mulberry leaves to help lower cholesterol level. The mulberry fruits are delicious. Debbie Teoh (the famous caterer from USJ11 & contributor of recipes to Flavours magazine) once told me she will collect the fruits till she has enough to make jam. But in my family, we can't wait for the fruits to ripen (when they turn liver red) to eat them. Really sweet. This plant is easy to grow. Just put a stem into a pot of soil and water everyday. Shoots will grow from the stem.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ou-TiElIxPDS_cx_cnHorA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_QUFxz9Zy74I/SwTqQMdMO1I/AAAAAAAABnU/tKK_sVnEd-s/s800/Mulberry.jpg" /></a>

For cough or throat irritation, we chew fresh Indian Borage leaves.
Indian Borage is also propagated from stem. It has very nice fragrant that is similar to the combination of lemon and mint leaf.


<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qzFHojJhLhqyLb5dfWhCVA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QUFxz9Zy74I/SwTqQKPt8eI/AAAAAAAABnQ/b1F1Cayt4L8/s800/Indian%20Borage.jpg" /></a>

firefox
19-11-2009, 02:49 PM
Poly, where can i get these mulberry stems? Blue berries are also as effective and you can get them at Bungsar new village supermarket

RolyPoly
19-11-2009, 02:54 PM
Poly, where can i buy these mulberry leaves? Blue berries are also as effective and you can get them at Bungsar new village supermarket

You gotta plant them, Firefox. I got my stem-cutting from a friend. I am trying to propagate some. If successful, can offer you one. That's if you can wait.

Otherwise you can go to Subang Jaya Buddhist Association on Sun morning. There is a guy, named Ivan, who runs an organic farm in Ara Damansara, called Taman Harapan. Ivan will set up his booth selling organic vegies, fruits and also plants there. He sells a pot of young mulberry plant at RM5.

The plant needs to be trimmed if you want to keep it low and shrub-like. The more often you trim, the more fruits it will bear. The fruits are nice and free from the garden. Blueberries from supermarket is very mahal. Now I have 2 pots of mulberry in my garden. So I can always get free mulberries. :p

firefox
19-11-2009, 03:01 PM
Thanks for your feedback i am glad for you, but i thot these plants dont grow in the tropics? These are the same leaves that the silk worms of Japan feeds on.

Sundays mornings are imposible, if you dont mind if your shrubs get bigger you can PM me, i leave it to you or maybe i can get someone to buy it from the place you mentioned.
thanks

patrick
19-11-2009, 08:58 PM
[QUOTE=RolyPoly]My family consumes tea brewed using dried mulberry leaves to help lower cholesterol level. The mulberry fruits are delicious. Debbie Teoh (the famous caterer from USJ11 & contributor of recipes to Flavours magazine) once told me she will collect the fruits till she has enough to make jam. But in my family, we can't wait for the fruits to ripen (when they turn liver red) to eat them. Really sweet. This plant is easy to grow. Just put a stem into a pot of soil and water everyday. Shoots will grow from the stem.


Oh yes...we take a lot of the berries and the leaves too. I like the taste of the tea. Nice fragrance......

patrick
19-11-2009, 09:03 PM
Poly, where can i get these mulberry stems? Blue berries are also as effective and you can get them at Bungsar new village supermarket

You can find a big plant at the 3K padang. There is a big plant at Jln SS13/1E, right in frontof Kelana Sports Centre (Trophies etc). There are also a few other herbal plants planted there.

palmdoc
19-11-2009, 09:13 PM
I was fed juice extracted from papaya leaves when I had dengue last year. It helps to stop my platelet count from dropping further. Not sure how it works but many friends told me that it'd work. So I consume it and it truly helped.


Anything you take at the tail end of dengue will look like it "works". That's just the natural history or course of the illness. The patients who insist on taking it in the early stages are most disappointed when true enough, their counts continue to fall!

mWong
19-11-2009, 09:49 PM
Poly, where can i get these mulberry stems?

I've the tree growing at my place and I can get you a stem with some berries. It's fruiting now.

An old lady told me that the leaves can be used to make soup. Just boil them with some meat for flavor.

Let me know when you want it.

RolyPoly
20-11-2009, 12:25 AM
Anything you take at the tail end of dengue will look like it "works". That's just the natural history or course of the illness. The patients who insist on taking it in the early stages are most disappointed when true enough, their counts continue to fall!

Hi Palmdoc, I took the papaya leave juice extract when I am suspected of having dengue, i.e. when my fever persisted. Also took pegaga juice. My friend who was a bad victim of dengue insisted on feeding me with all these natural remedy in order to prevent me from becoming too ill like what happened to her. Her condition was terribly bad, where her lung was filled with water and she couldn't breathe, and platelet count was very low. I visited her everyday and prayed hard for her to recover. Fortunately she did and when I had dengue, she was by my side every day making sure that I would recover too.

So, I believed the natural remedies i.e. papaya leave extract and pegaga worked coz my platelet count didn't drop too low. It picked up very soon. And I really have this friend to thank.

RolyPoly
20-11-2009, 12:27 AM
Thanks for your feedback i am glad for you, but i thot these plants dont grow in the tropics? These are the same leaves that the silk worms of Japan feeds on.

Sundays mornings are imposible, if you dont mind if your shrubs get bigger you can PM me, i leave it to you or maybe i can get someone to buy it from the place you mentioned.
thanks

They do grow in Malaysia now. In fact in USJ 2, I see many mulberries are being planted by the roadside. It's just that you need to identify them.

Don't worry, Firefox, if my mulberry stems start to grow shoots, I can pass one to you. I have 5 stems under my care now. With the daily rain, I think they will have shoots real fast. Cross my fingers.

tsd
20-11-2009, 12:45 AM
I wonder what happened to my mulberry tree... it has stop growing since I shifted it to another location in my garden :(

yes, mulberry tree is a very useful... according to my mom ( she is chinese herbs freak ), every parts the mulbery tree has a medical property.

kwchang
20-11-2009, 02:08 AM
On the note about the mulberry plant...
... i thot these plants dont grow in the tropics? These are the same leaves that the silk worms of Japan feeds on.... Yes, mulberry plants do grow here. In my final year project, I studied silkworms and I'd harvest the mulberry leaves planted at UPM and UM. The mulberry fruits are small and I had eaten them too. ... silk worms "of Japan" - well, silk worms do very well here too. There was an initiative to build this up as a cottage industry but it didn't take off too well. I think there is still a small silkworm industry at the East Coast (Terengganu?) where they produce silk.

Sentinel
20-11-2009, 03:23 AM
Thanks all, i have all the herbs i want, i already feel healthy.
I thought 2 days ago you were already healthy and confident... still not healthy enough?

Share with fellow forumers "all the herbs" that you have, not just take, give back some lah... :rolleyes:

palmdoc
20-11-2009, 08:01 AM
Hi Palmdoc, I took the papaya leave juice extract when I am suspected of having dengue, i.e. when my fever persisted. Also took pegaga juice. My friend who was a bad victim of dengue insisted on feeding me with all these natural remedy in order to prevent me from becoming too ill like what happened to her. Her condition was terribly bad, where her lung was filled with water and she couldn't breathe, and platelet count was very low. I visited her everyday and prayed hard for her to recover. Fortunately she did and when I had dengue, she was by my side every day making sure that I would recover too.

So, I believed the natural remedies i.e. papaya leave extract and pegaga worked coz my platelet count didn't drop too low. It picked up very soon. And I really have this friend to thank.

After how many days of fever did you take the papaya leave extract?

jan tomaswaki
20-11-2009, 08:42 AM
[QUOTE=RolyPoly]My family consumes tea brewed using dried mulberry leaves to help lower cholesterol level. The mulberry fruits are delicious. Debbie Teoh (the famous caterer from USJ11 & contributor of recipes to Flavours magazine) once told me she will collect the fruits till she has enough to make jam. But in my family, we can't wait for the fruits to ripen (when they turn liver red) to eat them. Really sweet. This plant is easy to grow. Just put a stem into a pot of soil and water everyday. Shoots will grow from the stem.

<Long time haven't see this tree aleady.When i was young i use to play masak masak and boil the leaves as liong cha in a milo tin.Bring alots of good ole days !!The fruits are fantastic and sweet when ripe though small

Justme123
20-11-2009, 10:18 AM
This King of Bitter or Hampedu Bumi seem to be a cure all herb.

http://www.cedarfood.com/graphics/products/hempedubumi.JPG

Uses in Traditional Medicine
This herb is given as analgesic, laxative, expectorant, digestive, stomachic, antipyretic and is also used for treating diabetes, fever, worm infections, chronic bronchitis, leprosy, pruritis, flatulence, colic, dysentery, diarrhea infestation and skin diseases (burns, wounds, ulcers).

In Malaysia, the decoction of the leaves is often taken orally to cure diabetes and high blood pressure.

The root and leaves are febrifuge, stomachic, tonic, alterative and anthelmintic. A leaf poultice is applied topically to relieve itchy skin and insects bites. It is also used to treat asthma, coronary arteriosclerosis, angina pectoris, malaria and fever.

Decoction made from the plant is taken to lower hypertension.

Even though it tastes bitter, many people drink it as a tonic for sore throat, fever, flu and chest pains and also used as a pain killer against snake bites.

When boiled with orthosiphon stamineus (java tea/misai kucing), the water is believed effective in treating diabetes.
However, if taken in higher dosage, it can cause mild side effects such as loss of appetite, nausea, dizziness and insomnia.
The juice of this plant is either taken or applied to area of snake bites and stings of insects.
Ref: (http://herbshealth.blogspot.com/2008/01/king-of-bitter-hempedu-bumi.html)

Sentinel
20-11-2009, 02:36 PM
Justme123, this herb that you shown to us (Thank You!), is it the same as the one I showed in my Post #17 above? It looks similiar with longish leaves but I am not sure if its the same or not, can you help clarify this?

firefox
20-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Thanks Poly and Mwong for your kind gestures i will get in touch with you soon.Thanks all for the useful info for all those who are interested in natural grown cures.
Keep it coming.

I got something to share with you but its pretty long . Its not a herb though.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Health/Physical-Health/Hidden-Health-Secrets-of-Lemons.aspx

fRaNkY
20-11-2009, 10:58 PM
This King of Bitter or Hampedu Bumi seem to be a cure all herb.

http://www.cedarfood.com/graphics/products/hempedubumi.JPG

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I think another name is "snake leaves" use for sorethroat. Got some dried and make into powder in the fridge... a small teaspoon with warm water whenever a sore coming up.. :D Extremlely bitter...

Also, waiting for my mulberry tree to bear fruit. My relative in PJ Sec 16 plant it all around the bungalow compound and when bearing fruits, we have fun plucking it! :p

tsd
20-11-2009, 11:28 PM
I think another name is "snake leaves" use for sorethroat. Got some dried and make into powder in the fridge... a small teaspoon with warm water whenever a sore coming up.. :D Extremlely bitter...

Also, waiting for my mulberry tree to bear fruit. My relative in PJ Sec 16 plant it all around the bungalow compound and when bearing fruits, we have fun plucking it! :p

to make the mulberry plant to grow fruits.. just trim the tree... you will see fruits appearing in a very short time :)

Justme123
21-11-2009, 11:28 AM
Justme123, this herb that you shown to us (Thank You!), is it the same as the one I showed in my Post #17 above? It looks similiar with longish leaves but I am not sure if its the same or not, can you help clarify this?I am not sure as it does not look exacty like the plant i have at home.
But, maybe, since you mentioned green, longish and bitter.

I notice that this herb seem to display different shapes and color under different conditions.
When exposed to sun, it is greenish and longish. It get lush dark green and less longish when planted in the shade.

Franky mentioned 'snake leaves', i noted that when the leaf get bigger, it look like it some green snake skin with yellowish scales.

Perhaps to further confirm, the stem is squarish and at the nodes where the leaf spring from, there is a purplish shade.

The flower is like this.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2421509190_b9ed21eb74.jpg

Here is a close up of the plant:
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_Pyq1m2LGmbg9MaPNnoiZg

Try google; image hempedu bumi
and you will get a lot of pics of this plant to compare with what you have.

besitai2007
21-11-2009, 06:54 PM
Go to http://www.flickr.com/photos/25252431@N03/page2/ for my collection of my ethnobotany and other pictures. A word of caution, though, don't try unless you know what you are doing.

patrick
21-11-2009, 07:06 PM
If you guys are really keen, should consider visiting the Herbal Park at Batu 1, Simpang Pulai, Jalan Batu Gajah in Kepayang, Perak. There was an article in the Star Metro dated 13/6/09. Entrance Fee is only RM2 for adults and Rm1 for children and its open from Monday to Friday 8am to 5pm. Group visits can be arranged for Saturdays. For details call the park at 05-3572290 or the Perak Agriculture Dept at 05-2541999.

besitai2007
22-11-2009, 11:39 AM
Closer at home is the Herb and Conservatory Gardens in Taman Tasik Perdana, K.L. My Flickr page from page 6 to 9 shows more of the common herbs found locally http://www.flickr.com/photos/25252431@N03/page6/ to http://www.flickr.com/photos/25252431@N03/page9/

Justme123
22-11-2009, 11:57 AM
Closer at home is the Herb and Conservatory Gardens in Taman Tasik Perdana, K.L. My Flickr page from page 6 to 9 shows more of the common herbs found locally http://www.flickr.com/photos/25252431@N03/page6/ to http://www.flickr.com/photos/25252431@N03/page9/Nice pictures, but i did not see any Hampedu Bumi therein.
I think i'll pay a visit to that garden someday.

Anyone tried Tongkat Ali and does it resolve those hard to cure problems as it had been claimed for it?

firefox
22-11-2009, 05:54 PM
Go to http://www.flickr.com/photos/25252431@N03/page2/ for my collection of my ethnobotany and other pictures. A word of caution, though, don't try unless you know what you are doing.

Nice one Besitai, but i am curious about the sky fruit on page 3?

besitai2007
23-11-2009, 05:04 AM
Nice one Besitai, but i am curious about the sky fruit on page 3?
Sky Fruit can be bought at the SS2 morning market. Costs about RM10 for a packet. Colleague of mine claims that it can cure colds, and a myriad of ailments. I tried it once when I had a persistent cough due to post nasal drip from allergic rhinitis. Cured it after a week. You have to peel off the shell and consume the whitish grey endosperm. About 4 of the fruits each time. But it is very bitter! When the problem came again, it didn't do much good. Could be a placebo effect the first time?

Read this http://www.skyfruitjuicepremix.com/skyfruitbenefits.html for further information. As before your belief in its curative properties helps
:p

besitai2007
23-11-2009, 05:32 AM
Nice pictures, but i did not see any Hampedu Bumi therein.
I think i'll pay a visit to that garden someday.

Anyone tried Tongkat Ali and does it resolve those hard to cure problems as it had been claimed for it?

I ran out of the 200 pics limit to post more pictures in Flickr, including that of Hempedu Bumi or Andrographis paniculata. Apologies.

The Hempedu Bumi or Andrographis paniculata is a common herb found locally. Read this http://www.ehoza.com/v4/forum/panduan-kesihatan/10630-khasiat-hempedu-bumi.html.

Tongkat Ali's reputation is over-rated I feel. There may be more serious urological problems that require a doctor's attention before you self-medicate.

Sentinel
30-11-2009, 11:16 AM
This is something interesting. Its not a herb but a fruit, so to speak.

I am sure you have heard of and even tasted SOURSOP? In Hokkien, its called Ang More Lew Lian, in Malay if I am not mistaken its called Durian Belanda...

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee122/GreenBug19/soursop1.jpg

Well, it is reported that this fruit contains 10,000 times more anti-oxidant than any known fruits and many people use this as refreshments for those who have suffered some form of cancer or undergoing chemotheraphy.

Read HERE (http://www.usefultipsforlife.com/soursop-alternative-chemo-treatment) and you can find more articles on the use of soursop as an alternative cancer cure if you google "soursop cancer cure"...

Its a very sturdy plant, you can grow it anywhere even in your small 4 x 20 ft USJ backyard if you wish. The fruits are creamy and sweet too.

You can sometimes get it at Carrefour SJ but the best place to get this is at Pasar Tani in Shah Alam (the one near Puncak Niaga) and its cheap comparatively to other local fruits...

jan tomaswaki
30-11-2009, 11:34 AM
Yes,it use to be a cheapskate fruit as it was sour ,nowadays it is diffult to find one in the city except those in the kampung.

Sentinel
30-11-2009, 11:36 AM
Yes,it use to be a cheapskate fruit as it was sour ,nowadays it is diffult to find one in the city except those in the kampung.Drop by all the Pasar Tani around the city Jan, its available especially around Puchong, Sri Kembangan and even Shah Alam. I have seen them once in Carrefour too, surprisingly!

RolyPoly
04-12-2009, 04:51 PM
You can find soursop at the SS13 pasar malam on Tues or Sun evening.

besitai2007
09-12-2009, 09:59 AM
Here are some pics of the Taman Herba in Taman Tasik Perdana taken with my Nokia E72-1 phone. Hope the pics are clear enough. The place is a bit unkept (sad, but you can see for yourself).
You can park your car at Jalan Kebun Bunga, just after Lake Club.

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Weekends will be a good time to visit the place as well as enjoy a walk around the park. I visit the place regularly and enjoy the cool morning air in the park. You should also try it! Wish Subang Lake can be converted into this.


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patrick
09-12-2009, 10:15 AM
Here are some pics of the Taman Herba in Taman Tasik Perdana taken with my Nokia E72-1 phone. Hope the pics are clear enough. The place is a bit unkept (sad, but you can see for yourself).
You can park your car at Jalan Kebun Bunga, just after Lake Club.

Weekends will be a good time to visit the place as well as enjoy a walk around the park. I visit the place regularly and enjoy the cool morning air in the park. You should also try it! Wish Subang Lake can be converted into this.


Thanks for pointing the way. I used to run around there so often and never knew there was such a Herbal Garden! Shame, shame !!

firefox
09-12-2009, 03:19 PM
Thanks Besitai, i did not know there is such a place in TT Perdana. Great!

Sentinel
09-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks for pointing the way. I used to run around there so often and never knew there was such a Herbal Garden! Shame, shame !!
Pat, there is also an Asian Spice Garden in Telok Bahang here and also have local herbs as well. But they charge entrance fees lah.. sheesh!

Sentinel
09-12-2009, 08:45 PM
Ever heard of the goodness of sweet potatoes? Yes, that humble poor-man's food, the sweet potatoes?

Well, it is said that although it is 'sweet', it actually helps the digestive system because of its high fibre content and it is even reputed to have bring down and regulate blood glucose level! Hard to believe, google the info and you will be amazed that like the cheapskate Soursop Fruit, it is actually a very beneficial food! Ha Ha... tomorrow the price of sweet potatoes in SJ/USJ will shoot up due to increased demand... :D

patrick
09-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Pat, there is also an Asian Spice Garden in Telok Bahang here and also have local herbs as well. But they charge entrance fees lah.. sheesh!

Money face lah!!! Hey, you all know there is also a place called Herbwalk in Langkawi? Google the website. Its run by a Dr Ghani, and the so-called Herbwalk tour comes with either breakfast, lunch or hi-tea. Must pay lah of course but I cant remember how much lah! If anyone interested, can also call him at 017 4523404. Wanted to visit them but he was away in KL then. Anway, hope to catch up with him on my next trip in ...mmm...March, I think!

fRaNkY
09-12-2009, 10:19 PM
Bought some Misai Kucing tea bags... whole day always go to toilet... shu shu :D

dieurics?

Sentinel
09-12-2009, 11:40 PM
Here's the LINK (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=64) to sweet potatoes. This article did not mention anything about "regulating and controlling blood glucose level" (for diabetics) but if you look at the Wikipedia version, it was mentioned.

besitai2007
10-12-2009, 10:08 AM
Here's the LINK (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=64) to sweet potatoes. This article did not mention anything about "regulating and controlling blood glucose level" (for diabetics) but if you look at the Wikipedia version, it was mentioned.
My missus swore by bittergourd for controlling diabetes. There is a herbal preparation of it called Diabegard.

in
10-12-2009, 11:08 AM
Hey, you all know there is also a place called Herbwalk in Langkawi?

We went to the Herbwalk about 2 years ago. The rates then was Rm15 per pax inclusive of breakfast/tea. (which was cooked by his wife and delicious.) I don't know if the rates remain the same. The herbwalk is actually in Dr. Ghani's garden which is chockful of herb plants. Dr. Ghani was very informative. The thing I learned the most is that most of the plants are common ones we see everyday, its just that we never knew it could be medicinal too. Here's a few pics that i took.

The first picture is of Dr. Ghani showing us some local herbs. We are sitting on a high 'platform' overlooking his garden where the makan is served.

Stan
10-12-2009, 11:26 AM
Since there seems to be a number of herbal experts here, I would like to find out if anyone knows of any herbs that can cure acid reflux (GERD). In Western medicine there's no cure just medication to control the symptoms by 'turning off' the acid production.

Wold appreciate if anyone knows of any traditional cures for this condition.

THanks.

jet
10-12-2009, 01:38 PM
I heard there is a large herbal farm in Seremban. Was feature in the local newspaper sometime ago.

anyone know the location and how to get there ?

besitai2007
10-12-2009, 02:55 PM
Since there seems to be a number of herbal experts here, I would like to find out if anyone knows of any herbs that can cure acid reflux (GERD). In Western medicine there's no cure just medication to control the symptoms by 'turning off' the acid production.

Wold appreciate if anyone knows of any traditional cures for this condition.

THanks.
If you can believe this http://www.refluxremedy.com/. I didn't know eating an apple helps! But I'm not saying that you should buy the book! Slippery Elm was a good remedy for me when I suffered from very bad gastritis many years ago. Coats your stomach and prevents the gastric juice from attacking your stomach lining. But my wife cannot tolerate it. Recently I had a bad attack of gastitis again, this time had to resort to western medication - omeprazol prescribed by a doctor from Dr Panir's clinic. It's best to consult a doctor first. I suggest you consult a doctor and do an endoscopy

Klinik Panir is at

Ground Floor, Blok Podium Plaza Pekeliling,
Jln Tun Razak,
50400 Kuala Lumpur,
Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-40451 0246

Stan
10-12-2009, 03:17 PM
Besitai,

THanks for the link. I have seen a GI and done an endoscope. But wetern medicin only prescribes medicine that shut down your acid producing mechanism...no cure. Its a life long disease that can only be controlled by diet and pills.

Thats why I am turning to nature for a cure. Have read many of these so called cures on the internet and am quite confused buy all the remedies recommended. I rather believe someone in Malaysia who has real experience and results with our local herbs.



If you can believe this http://www.refluxremedy.com/. I didn't know eating an apple helps! But I'm not saying that you should buy the book! Slippery Elm was a good remedy for me when I suffered from very bad gastritis many years ago. Coats your stomach and prevents the gastric juice from attacking your stomach lining. But my wife cannot tolerate it. Recently I had a bad attack of gastitis again, this time had to resort to western medication - omeprazol prescribed by a doctor from Dr Panir's clinic. It's best to consult a doctor first. I suggest you consult a doctor and do an endoscopy

Klinik Panir is at

Ground Floor, Blok Podium Plaza Pekeliling,
Jln Tun Razak,
50400 Kuala Lumpur,
Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-40451 0246

allie
28-01-2010, 04:02 PM
I hear that some herbs grown and found in our country can really reduce the level of diabetes, blood pressure and improve the kidney functions.
I know of two, Kuching misai and sambung nyawa.
Has anyone any experience of consuming these herbs or any others and as a result shown some improvements.
Just wondering what have been said about these herbs are true.
Thanks.

Referring to the above, I think the biggest key to being healthy is breathing right. You can add all the herbs you want but if you don't breathe right, all these are not gonna help. I got all these from a Facebook Group called Malaysia OSA (Obstructive Sleep Apnea) Support Group (Search for it). This guy inside talks about how, once his air passageway is properly restored, hi blood pressure dropped, all his diabetic symptoms disappeared, he could walk many times longer than when he had been doing, etc. etc. Check it out. I am not sure if I am allowed to post links here so I am not putting it in.

allie
28-01-2010, 04:28 PM
Breathing is a basic human function (all living matters too) and the ability to bring in the right amount of oxygen to enable your body to function well is highly essential. Any impairment to the intake will also impair body functions. Even sinus is an impairment to breathing. Are you aware how much nose **** is in your nasal cavity? I had a camera put into my nose and the amount of nose **** inside is tremendous. No amount of finger digging will remove it. Only a nose douche can really take it out. Yoga practitioners do it. A properly formulated saline solution is pumped into the nostrils to fill the cavity whereby the gunk is dissolved and dislodged. A big blast from the lungs will then push the solution and the gunk out of the nose onto the sink. You will be amazed at the sizes that came out. Usually I get 6 large pieces and countless smaller pieces. Some can't even be washed down the sink. I have to pick it up and throw it into the toilet bowl. Once done, the air passage way becomes so clear that it is like air conditioning - cool and refreshing!

Go to a pharmacy and buy the FLO brand nasal douche and a 50 pack supply of salts. Follow the instructions. Initially, it will be difficult - like water entering your nose when you jumped into a swimming pool. Persist at it. After a while, it becomes easy and then you will like the effect so much that you can't do a day without it.

fRaNkY
28-01-2010, 10:46 PM
Anyone tried herbal for ED? Kulit Gambir ? :D

Oogway
29-01-2010, 12:20 PM
Anyone know any natural cure for sinus problems? Have had it since I was a kid and like Allie said, breathing affects quality of life, lack of stamina and mental clarity among others.