Clean Up Or Be Cleared Out

[CS Chua]

I read in the SJEcho (http://www.sjecho.com.my/?page=article&id=1021) about the clean up job in SS15. That is great and I hope it will continue regularly. Yesterday, I was eating in SS14 in one of the corner coffee shops, which faces another, I saw 2 huge rats the size of a small cat - not kitten, mind you and it was in broad day light. Apparently, they are not afraid of humans!!

I hope MPSJ councilors Keshminder Singh and Theresa Ratnam Thong are reading this so that they can organize a clean up in SS14 too. I do not mind if they close these shops for one month just to get the job done or to drive home the point.

[Sentinel]

Two weeks ago I was at the Petronas station at USJ2 to top up the tank. I saw a young lady driver trying to walk towards the payment counter at the petrol station but as soon as she got out of her car, she shrieked aloud and ran back into her car. Next thing I saw was a huge rat, yes it was the size of a cat alright, that has frightened her. Anyway the rat ran into one of the nearby drain next to Orchipalar's favourite mamak shop LOL!

[Carolrasiah]

Two weeks ago I was at the Petronas station at USJ2 to top up the tank. I saw a young lady driver trying to walk towards the payment counter at the petrol station but as soon as she got out of her car, she shrieked aloud and ran back into her car. Next thing I saw was a huge rat, yes it was the size of a cat alright, that has frightened her. Anyway the rat ran into one of the nearby drain next to Orchipalar's favourite mamak shop LOL!
poor Orchipalar..................... :D :D :D

[USJ27Resident]

Anyway the rat ran into one of the nearby drain next to Orchipalar's favourite mamak shop LOL!

I'll be damned... do you know that you can catch Leptospirosis from dried rat urine... you'd DIE from this disease... NO JOKE... don't play play!!

Now imagine this... you go to MAMAK stall - order a can of your favorite Cola... and "mamak - tak mau ice..." swig the cola from the can, NOT knowing that the lid of the can got dried rat's urine... heck, you can catch it from anything that was exposed to a rat's dried urine... :eek:

[CS Chua]

There is this rat catcher in Dhaka who caught 83,000 rats (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8283607.stm.) Can we employ him for a year to catch rat in SS14? Perhaps, MPSJ can pay him by the number of rat caught and send the bills to the restaurant owners.

[firefox]

You can clean the area but you cant wipe out a rat menance as its a food paradise.

[tupai]

You can clean the area but you cant wipe out a rat menance as its a food paradise.

in all seriousness, Subang Jaya eateries need to have a couple of dirty-food=health-related deaths, as there is no point addressing the symptoms, when the stall/coffee shops continue to discard their leftovers/unsold stuff into the drains! It stinks to high heaven too!

I think the councillors should advise MPSJ to be very very stringent in their enforcement and then have the dirty eateries clamped down/closed/tutup kedai for a month or so. If the stalls/coffeeshops are not up to a spick&span can-eat-off-d-floor after the 30day closure, the lesen will be suspended! That will teach the dirty/unhygienic recalcitrants...BUT then again, the 'poor' subang jaya residents will be bitching as they love the dirt, grime, stink and rats as part of their daily intake...no? :o


Yang Berpuasa latotupai

[Blue Jasmine]

You can clean the area but you cant wipe out a rat menance as its a food paradise.


Total agree...unless we have civilised hawkers that doesnt throw everything down the drain. Those rats are every...soon we will have a rat invasion ..i even saw those kind of rats inside a hypermarket in sj. They were running along the upper piping.

[Blue Jasmine]

You can clean the area but you cant wipe out a rat menance as its a food paradise.


Total agree...unless we have civilised hawkers that doesnt throw everything down the drain. Those rats are everywhere...soon we will have a rat invasion ..i even saw those kind of rats inside a hypermarket in sj. They were running along the upper piping.

[Chia Hak Soon]

This happened many years ago in Damansara Utama.

I was having lunch in a famous wanton mee shop. Suddenly a heavy downpour and filled the drains beside the shop. Rats as big as cats begin running out due to flooding and all the ladies customer scream. That was the last time I patronise the shop.

The trouble is that they throw all the rubbish and some left over after washing the plates into the drain.

The outlet was closed by MPPJ for two weeks. But the problem is still there.

Now the whole row of shops is brightened at night by three Hokkien Mee outlets . The rats should be very happy. :D

[bslee]

I wonder how other developed countries handle the rodent, roach and other pests problem. I reckon they have the funds to address the problem, whereas here its an age old problem and more or less tutup mata buat tak tahu, until some rodent runs under your table where you eat. There's a lot to do if there's really concrete action but not just the participation of authorities alone. Restaurants, eateries, or whereever there's source of food for pests, they'll be there to stay. These places have to do their part and the common drain should very clean (very difficult to achieve here, even heavy rain is not a help). Drains here are a primary source of food and water and thats where the rodents and roaches are usually galore.

[gtl]

it is all very simple. make sure the hawkers do not dispose their waste into the drainage systems. have proper disposal services to manage their waste.
once there is no waste in the drainage system, the rats and pest will not have any food source.
no food source, biologically the numbers of rodent and pest will reduce.
at the moment, we have hawkers pouring their waste into the drain, so how not to get rodent and pest infestation??
we are also looking at a pandemic if the infected rodent or pest bit any human being.
ala "black death"!!

[alberto]

its dificult to change the attitude of hawkers they will always find an easy solution to dispose their garbage..the rats will be always be our garbage cleaners.

[Rhiga]

Everything is focused on cheap cost - cheap foreign labour, cheap contractors, etc etc.

How to solve ?. Many of them don’t even care of their own personal hygiene, do you think they concern about their product hygiene and service quality !!!!!!!!

[CS Chua]

At the end of the day, it is all about enforcement. It is not because the Australians, Americans or Europeans are more conscientious than us. It is because they have regular and consistent enforcement, something which our enforcement people do not know about. They love the one-day-big-hype-media-attracting type of event. After it is over, all of them go back to their favorite hiding holes.

One way around this problem is to cover up the drains. Right now, the drains around those shops are uncovered and it is so unsightly. If they cover it up, they will not be able to dispose of their waste into the drains.

[zinglicious]

I beg to disagree. Enforcement is one thing, which is usually short term solution akin to when the cat is away, the mouse would hip hop and play. :D

The biggest influence is the consumers attitude. Consumers have the right to pay for good hygiene foods. Why pay for something that can make you sick? :eek:

If there is demand for cheap unhygienic food, the traders would gladly supply the consumers. Simple ecomomics of supply and demand. :D

[Rhiga]

Bro, I think you are half right only lah

I agree the overall consumer attitude/expectation is low thus encouraging the supply of low hygiene food and low quality product/service.

BUT, sometimes in fact many times even we pay god price we don't get the product/service which is on par with the price.

A good example is the banana leaf restaurant - price is not cheap relative to the product, ambient, hygiene, etc.

And the kitchens of some of the ultra-expensive chinese reataurant is a real shock, no kidding.

[tictactoe]

Maybe this is out of topic but I think it boils down to the community's attitude towards cleanliness. In my neighbourhood for example, there are HUGE rats roaming the backlanes. Why? Residents renovate their homes and when they do, the drainage is changed so that water from kitchen goes directly to drains and with it food scraps etc. Food for rodents, that's why they breed. Some of my neighbours despite being educated was so proud to tell me that they made sure the contractor changed the drainaige so that there won't be a blockage! ( No blockage if you don't throw food down the sink in the first place!) In fact I think mine is the ONLY house on my row whose water from kitchen sink goes into Indah Water sewage system and so far ( after 12 years ) I have never experience any blockage.

[firefox]

My nearest grocery is in SS14 and if you venture to the back of the shop sure to smell rats urine and find its droplets everywhere.
Lately because of emergency i had to buy a loaf of bread and when i got back i discovered it had been ravaged by a rat..thats the end of that shop for me.

Dread to think what happens at night when the lights go off.

[CS Chua]

Does anybody know the personal email address of MPSJ councilors Keshminder Singh and Theresa Ratnam Thong? I would like to send this link to them for their reading and attention. Or if someone is kind enough to do it, please go ahead.