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tupai
31-10-2009, 02:21 PM
the mp YB goh burne guy...how is he performing as an mp? :confused:


Yang Blur Sotong latotupai :confused:

Sentinel
31-10-2009, 02:31 PM
I see him as young and bright fella... but as a first-term MP, he is unprepared and an unguided cruise missile... what a waste! People around him can do the paperwork and provide support services for his constituents and what not but they are not up to the mark to guide him well on strategies, policies and a battle plan....

I see him as a very vulnerable opponent to BN in the next round and unless quick actions are taken to 'guide' him and shore up his performance and image, he is most like a one-term wonder....

tupai
31-10-2009, 02:42 PM
yeah, i came to the same conclusion.


last month or thereabout, I was in the selangor kopishop assoc 25yr?40yr? anniv dinner. Yang Berhormat goh burne was invited too and on his way out, he saw me, we locked eyes...i didnt greet him and he moved (rather hastily said my other half) away from me...

I guess he remembered the last encounter we had with him & hanna etcetc...where he had an earful (of questions, next steps, rubbish opinions, worthless gems of advice etcetcetc) from me, with his bro furiously jotting notes on the pda.
I guess he didn't deliver or act on anything lah..except a recent polis report about a mpv? My elected YB mp should do more and be seen to do it too...else, any monkey can be a YB MP. ;)

Yang Bodoh latotupai

p/s this is NOT a political thread..it merely to ask about my MP performance as I am not in bolehland all DUH time! sori...

Sentinel
31-10-2009, 02:53 PM
You see Tupai, he is an MP, not an ADUN. So, he is not much involved with whats happening on the ground and day-to-day stuff unlike YB Hannah Yeoh and her team of councillors and special assistants... we have to make that difference first.

Secondly, I have been reading the parliament Hansards and he has done his duty except that he is not active enough in the questionning part of policies and speeches by the backbenchers. Maybe he is young and unguided.

Look at the whole bunch of them young ones like Gwo Burne, Nurul Izzah, Tony Pua, Gobind Deo, Teo Nie Ching, and Chua Soi Lek's son from Labis, they are all the same - wet behind the ears except for Gobind Deo who inherited some of the lion's DNA and Tony who is an established IT entrepreneur in S'pore.

I guess we just need to give them more time and the seniors should give them more guidance.

p.s. Hope CSL teach the right 'guidance' to his son... :D

tupai
31-10-2009, 03:04 PM
You see Tupai, he is an MP, not an ADUN. So, he is not much involved with whats happening on the ground and day-to-day stuff unlike YB Hannah Yeoh and her team of councillors and special assistants... we have to make that difference first.

Secondly, I have been reading the parliament Hansards and he has done his duty except that he is not active enough in the questionning part of policies and speeches by the backbenchers. Maybe he is young and unguided.

Look at the whole bunch of them young ones like Gwo Burne, Nurul Izzah, Tony Pua, Gobind Deo, Teo Nie Ching, and Chua Soi Lek's son from Labis, they are all the same - wet behind the ears except for Gobind Deo who inherited some of the lion's DNA and Tony who is an established IT entrepreneur in S'pore.

I guess we just need to give them more time and the seniors should give them more guidance.

p.s. Hope CSL teach the right 'guidance' to his son... :D

Thats where I was driving at...but i won't comment on the other opposition YB mp as they aint in my area (usual selfish me..I am only bothered whats at my backyard)...Macro issues passed parliament will drive policies that filter down for the likes of Adun/local autho to act upon, that i understand... if Yang Berduduk & Berdiamdiam aje MPs do not do their part, why am I and the rest of the Blur Sotong rakyak paying their salary & pencen till death do us apart?

Unfortunately, I have also seen young wetbehind ear MPs from (again, i emphasise unfortunately) western countries who, with enuff research and dedication to task, can take on the senior MPs and influence policies...We have many 'accidental Yang Banyak untung MPs' if i may say...Sedih tapi benar.

Yang Blur Sotong latotupai

cskok8
31-10-2009, 04:03 PM
MPs are not supposed to look after longkang issues. That is the job of the local council (MPSJ); not even the ADUN. Of course since the ADUN is also a local councilor, she is also involved. If you want an MP that is excellent in handling longkang issues then you should vote for one former MCA MP who did a very good job in PJ.

Sentinel
31-10-2009, 04:03 PM
Why not fix an appointment with him and have a cigar with him? Afterall there are a lot that a Tupai-Gwoburne collaboration than both of you drifting apart? I can set it up for this Friday evening - just make sure my coffee and my cuban corona is paid for... maybe at Zinglicious? I can bring the Glenfiddich...

zinglicious
31-10-2009, 04:12 PM
yeah, i came to the same conclusion.


last month or thereabout, I was in the selangor kopishop assoc 25yr?40yr? anniv dinner. Yang Berhormat goh burne was invited too and on his way out, he saw me, we locked eyes...i didnt greet him and he moved (rather hastily said my other half) away from me...

I guess he remembered the last encounter we had with him & hanna etcetc...where he had an earful (of questions, next steps, rubbish opinions, worthless gems of advice etcetcetc) from me, with his bro furiously jotting notes on the pda.
I guess he didn't deliver or act on anything lah..except a recent polis report about a mpv? My elected YB mp should do more and be seen to do it too...else, any monkey can be a YB MP. ;)

Yang Bodoh latotupai

p/s this is NOT a political thread..it merely to ask about my MP performance as I am not in bolehland all DUH time! sori...

Instead of dishing advice, stand for election and you have my vote. :D

I believe our country needs more informative and fiery candidates like you. At least, you been honest enough to say whatever happening SS17, stay at SS17. So if you stand as a MP, whatever happens in Malaysia, stay as at Malaysia.
BTW, do you know how to secretly tape conversations like Gwo Bruno? ;)

tupai
31-10-2009, 04:27 PM
Why not fix an appointment with him and have a cigar with him? Afterall there are a lot that a Tupai-Gwoburne collaboration than both of you drifting apart? I can set it up for this Friday evening - just make sure my coffee and my cuban corona is paid for... maybe at Zinglicious? I can bring the Glenfiddich...


Bro, he prob wont even take my call lah...he would have erased my 016CAT6969 number leow...or he can always say 'I dont know u, do I??"

BUT if u can arrange it with the YB gor burne, I will cancel my already fixed next friday evening engagement...(buncha divers getting together to talk about mermaids and have single malt and combo hops,barley&malt till sloshed!or morning whichever comes firsthahahahah)


Yang Bersedia latotupai

p/s Zing, cook me the exilir of youth PLUS a dessert reversing 20yrs off my life and I shalt standeth for public office to serveth all plebs! :p

ksj_cool
31-10-2009, 04:32 PM
I see KLJ is doing fine, at least the roads were re-surfaced and the former custom's quarters was re-painted. In Subang Jaya we have yet to see a fresh layer of tar on our roads for years!!!

zinglicious
31-10-2009, 04:33 PM
To excel in any given job, I was being told and taught that the word KASH apply.
K: Knowledge
A: Attitude
S: Skills
H: Habits
SO either they are wet behind the ears or not, not really a factor. For instance, how multinational corporations are so successful, they actually look into the above factors as a benchmark before offering the candidates the jobs. You can hire someone without enginering qualfications to head the motoring maintenance dept, right?
OK, perhaps in Malaysia, it is OK as many are hired because of relative qualification and kulitfication. :p

zinglicious
31-10-2009, 04:43 PM
Bro, he prob wont even take my call lah...he would have erased my 016CAT6969 number leow...or he can always say 'I dont know u, do I??"

BUT if u can arrange it with the YB gor burne, I will cancel my already fixed next friday evening engagement...(buncha divers getting together to talk about mermaids and have single malt and combo hops,barley&malt till sloshed!or morning whichever comes firsthahahahah)


Yang Bersedia latotupai

p/s Zing, cook me the exilir of youth PLUS a dessert reversing 20yrs off my life and I shalt standeth for public office to serveth all plebs! :p

When President Ronald Reagan runs for presidency, he was much older than youlah, If you read my posts , it is all about KASH. Age is not a factor. SO is race. Look at Obama! And professions also doesnt matter - look at Terminator - He is the Governor of Calirfornia where it is the most sophisticated and progressive state in .
If you would stand for election, gear up like him in leather suit and sunglasses riding a Harley. Just smile and say La Vista to BN :cool:

zinglicious
31-10-2009, 05:10 PM
As for the desserts, banana puddings with honey, and coffee with Tongkat Ali and I Tea with Gingseng.
Banana makes monkey active, honey is consider to be the exilir of life, Ginseng provides the yang factor and Tongkat Ali finally maintaining the manhood. :D
With these prescriptions to be taken three times a day on an empty stomach, you can put on the leather jacket and ride your Harley and make a grand entrance to the parlimentary - La Vista , Baby! :cool:

Minuteman
31-10-2009, 11:11 PM
He is out MP sitting in Parliment on our behalf. He does understand/ speak Bahasa Malaysia which is the language used in there. So what does he do while they are busy debating???? Taking Pictures with his camera???

zinglicious
02-11-2009, 01:10 AM
Some of the MPs would be soundly sleeping during debating. Taking pictures would be good to see who is sleeping on the job. :D

ksj_cool
02-11-2009, 09:45 AM
These pictures will shown during the next election campaign!...

Chia Hak Soon
02-11-2009, 10:16 AM
Have anyone realise that we have some new MPs and Aduns that are not inherited by way of his father or family in the last GE. Here is a interesting fact;-

1) Najib - Father Tun Razak
2) Hishamuddin - Father Tun Hussein Onn
2a) Badawi- Father in law- Dato Mahmood ( Chief supplier of Army equiptments)
3) Muhkriz - Father TD Mahathir
4) Naszri - Father Tan Sri Abdul Aziz
5) Lingsun- Father Ling leong Sik
6) Lim .... - Father Lim keng yaik
7) Chua .... Father Chua Soi Lek
8) Mah... Father Mah Hon kam
9) Nurul - Father Anwar Ibrahim
10) Lim Guan Eng - Father Lim kit Siang
11) ................- Father Samy Vellu
and many more if you may add.

This is to show that, apart from the sultans , there are many dynasties that controlled Malaysian politics and you and I are made to believe that we can change. It would be more interesting to produce a list successsful bussinessman that are linked to these people and the AP chain.

hezron
02-11-2009, 10:51 AM
10) Lim Guan Eng - Father Lim kit Siang


I am kind of disagreed to this one...

when LimGE starting his politician career, there are nothing there for DAP except Live Long Opposition Party (永远的反对党 )...

if there are nothing else except to inherit his father position as a party leader, there are plenty of other choices in life...

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 11:01 AM
I am kind of disagreed to this one...

when LimGE starting his politician career, there are nothing there for DAP except Live Long Opposition Party (永远的反对党 )...

if there are nothing else except to inherit his father position as a party leader, there are plenty of other choices in life...
It was the same for Nurul Izzah. She stepped up to the plate when her father was jailed for corruption and sodomy charges and she became a focus in the opposition as a "puteri reformasi" and she went to see Presidents around the world like President Josef Estrada of Phillipines, ex-President Cory Aquino also of the Phillipines, ex-President BJ Habibie and later Gus Dur too... and V President Al Gore... to seek their support in getting her Dad released... she did not inherit anything, she just had to join the fight!

tupai
02-11-2009, 11:20 AM
hellooooooo...R v stil on the YB MP l goh burne guy?

He is our MP and we put him there. Whathas he done or is doing or planning to do??

...lets start with him 1st then you (I wont) move on the the other Yang Berhormat mp... (I wont cos they r in my book: yang bodoh, yang biadap, yang blur, yang berkorupted, yang Bernajis'd, etcetcetc)

Yang Blur Sotong re KJ MP latotupai :confused:

p/s this comment is made, to avoid Yang Boleh Mode from branding it a political thread and then shutting it down... :rolleyes:

Chia Hak Soon
02-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Funny as it may so, when her father was the DPM, there was no need to campaign for the injustice. When the chips are down, they scream human rights violation and so fort. Prehaps, thats the way that motivates her otherwise if her father was patience , what happens ?

As far as LGE is concerned, ask the Dap veterans, there is no chance for true fighters like Lee Lam Thye,Fang Yew Teng etc to even go near the top in DAP. The same with all the rest of BN's coalition. Those who replace the previous president are on loan to feel the gap until the president's son is ready. It is a musical chair , whereby the controller of the music decides who is in and who is out. And the controller is no other than the president and his goons.

hezron
02-11-2009, 11:27 AM
hellooooooo...R v stil on the YB MP l goh burne guy?

He is our MP and we put him there. Whathas he done or is doing or planning to do??

...lets start with him 1st then you (I wont) move on the the other Yang Berhormat mp... (I wont cos they r in my book: yang bodoh, yang biadap, yang blur, yang berkorupted, yang Bernajis'd, etcetcetc)

Yang Blur Sotong re KJ MP latotupai :confused:

p/s this comment is made, to avoid Yang Boleh Mode from branding it a political thread and then shutting it down... :rolleyes:

don't worry YB tupai, we are all discuss about the quality of our MPs' works...

nothing to do with politic here... :D

btw, I am still not voting in Subang Jaya/Kelana Jaya, but in Menglembu/Batu Gajah...

I need to reserve my vote to do someting for Perak in next GE... ;)

Chia Hak Soon
02-11-2009, 11:44 AM
Tupai about Burne Mp , he is an incidental sucess , who beat LHB when the public was left with no choice. Neverthe less, he can only check and balance
in the parliment. Ask Jeff Ooi , what happens in Penang. I thought he was his investment adviser ? Prehaps he can enlighten us of the true parliment scenario.

bslee
02-11-2009, 11:52 AM
I suppose these MP's better show performance, worthy achievement and prove themselves worthy again to be re-elected or having we people support them fully again, otherwise "one term wonder" due to obvious reasons will apply. Do note that many people may simply think that. Simply thought...

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 12:05 PM
Funny as it may so, when her father was the DPM, there was no need to campaign for the injustice. When the chips are down, they scream human rights violation and so fort. Prehaps, thats the way that motivates her otherwise if her father was patience , what happens ?I do not decide what is right nor what is wrong... but did you expect her to sit at home and do nothing? Or perhaps she should just cowered in fear and in submissions together with her supporters and scream "yes, my father was corrupted and he sodomised his driver!"

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 12:10 PM
As far as LGE is concerned, ask the Dap veterans, there is no chance for true fighters like Lee Lam Thye,Fang Yew Teng etc to even go near the top in DAP. The same with all the rest of BN's coalition. Those who replace the previous president are on loan to feel the gap until the president's son is ready. It is a musical chair , whereby the controller of the music decides who is in and who is out. And the controller is no other than the president and his goons.
If Lee Lam Thye is a true fighter for the socialist cause, tell me what is doing with his "Tan Sri" title, a chauffered Perdana, an office in Putrajaya?

yusiang
02-11-2009, 12:14 PM
Funny as it may so, when her father was the DPM, there was no need to campaign for the injustice. When the chips are down, they scream human rights violation and so fort. Prehaps, thats the way that motivates her otherwise if her father was patience , what happens ?

Dude, she was only a secondary school student when her father was the DPM. Just ask yourself, if somebody else's kids die in lokap or in some 1malaysia camp, would you come out to cry/campaign/protest(posting some messages on the forum is not counted) if those are not your kids?



As far as LGE is concerned, ask the Dap veterans, there is no chance for true fighters like Lee Lam Thye,Fang Yew Teng etc to even go near the top in DAP.

There are a lot of "True Fighters" that you can use as example. But not Lee Lam Thye plz lah, he is a big joke.



The same with all the rest of BN's coalition. Those who replace the previous president are on loan to feel the gap until the president's son is ready. It is a musical chair , whereby the controller of the music decides who is in and who is out. And the controller is no other than the president and his goons.
I completely agree with this description of BN father-and-son(or in-law) situation of how they inherit the political power/wealth. But you need to think of how different is the reason of why the father-and-sons are also appearing in the opposition. Would you encourage your kids to be opposition politicians as their ambition(especially before 308)? The opposition leaders are the only persons who would do so since their kids are young.

zinglicious
02-11-2009, 12:19 PM
Lee Lam Thye wa somewhat my herolah even when I was akid at school. Incidentally he was a Michaelian.
Not sure whether he was pushed out and get frustrated by the power players from DAP or the rumours that BN sourced him out through his wife which was the cause of his change of direction in fighting social injustce.
Anyway, he still contributed more than those who are chauffered in Merce D and lived in Bali mansion. :D

Chia Hak Soon
02-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Yes Sentinel, she did the right thing. What I meant was generally if all things are well when her father was DPM, I have never heard of her. So is the case of Lingam tape, if not we do not know is Luo Burne.

I am not against her or her father, but this is politics and to me you have to be a chameleon to survive. It was pleasant surprise that DSAI case happened and today , we get to hear what happens to the ruling government.

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 12:28 PM
The real fear Malaysians should have but they didn't because at that time we were all apolitical. Ignorance is bliss they say, but here is a FACT that happened once upon a time in Malaysia:

Head of nation's coffer or treasury was Bank Negara Governor Tun Ismail bin Mohd Ali;

Head of the government of the richest state of Selangor was Mentri Besar Dato Seri Mohd Rozali bin Mohd Ali;

Before Khazanah & Prasarana & PNB & all these Danaharta or Danasaham was Kumpulan Perangsang and the head was Tan Sri Dato Siti Zaleha binti Mohd Ali;

The country's defence forces was headed by the Chief of Armed Forces and he was General Tan Sri Mohd Hashim bin Mohd Ali;

The PM was also controlled by another lady sharing his bed, his wife was Dato Seri (now Tun) Dr Siti Hasmah binti Mohd Ali.

Malaysians slept thru it all.... because they didn't know or couldn't care less then...

Chia Hak Soon
02-11-2009, 12:38 PM
Well done Sentinel, that;s what I meant. we sleep through it all . Any more to share ? Then at least we can have a " Hari ini dalam Sejarah " for the new generation.

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 12:40 PM
Another FACT:

Wife of 2nd Prime Minister Tun Abdul Razak was Toh Puan Rahah binti Mohd Noah (Najib's mother!)

Wife of Deputy Prime Minister Tun Dr Ismail was Toh Puan Norashikin binti Mohd Noah (Taufik's mother!)

Wife of 3rd Prime Minister Tun Hussein Onn was Toh Puan Suhaila binti Mohd Noah (Hishammuddin Hussein's mother!)

Tell me lah, which man can have 3 daughters married to 3 Tuns and almost all made it to Prime Minister?

zinglicious
02-11-2009, 12:43 PM
Bruno - we just dont know what we can say about him, hence the topics got strayed to others. Yang Bervideo has not been doin some much, lurking at some corners toget another blockbusters, perhaps. :D

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 12:47 PM
Bruno - we just dont know what we can say about him, hence the topics got strayed to others. Yang Bervideo has not been doin some much, lurking at some corners toget another blockbusters, perhaps. :D
Maybe we should call YB Bruno to a town hall meeting to review his first year as MP and what he plans to do the next 4 years... and residents can ask questions and ask for concrete action plans!

AllUrban
02-11-2009, 03:00 PM
LGB did try a public transport initiative, inviting yours truly to give him support. He also got support from another MP, Dr. Lo'Lo' of PAS.

As for other things, he has his blog (kelanajayamp.com (http://www.kelanajayamp.com)) and you can see for yourself what occupies his mind and his time. He is being a good backbencher and asking questions during Question Time and getting responses.

Sorry to say but the life of an MP is even less flashy than an ADUN, because in Malaysia, the ADUN handles the Longkang issues, while Parliament gets RM65 million in operating budget and the PM's D gets more than a few billion!

In terms of actual initiatives, at MP level methinks that it should be the party acting as the 'main driver' and directing the senior party members (those with more KASH) to sit in committees or act as opposition critics.

Younger mps and people with less KASH should sit and learn from those with more experience, demonstrate initiatives, and participate by promoting what they value, their 'vision' for their district.

Since the LRT extension is running through the Kelana Jaya parliamentary constituency, it would be good if LGB were giving feedback on that area but so far he hasnt done much.

Cheers, m

Sentinel
02-11-2009, 03:15 PM
M, why not organize a town hall meeting of sorts and have opportunity for both sides, the MP himself and his constituents, to touch base and keep each other updated on whats going on? Maybe this Friday's TT session would be a good venue / time...

AllUrban
02-11-2009, 04:49 PM
M, why not organize a town hall meeting of sorts and have opportunity for both sides, the MP himself and his constituents, to touch base and keep each other updated on whats going on? Maybe this Friday's TT session would be a good venue / time...It would be a great idea...so long as it is kept focused on Kelana Jaya only

Unfortunately Im out for this TT session.

Email his assistant Faisal Mustaffa at bhg_kjaya@yahoo.com. You could also contact LGB directly at loh.gwoburne@yahoo.com, or low.gwoburne@gmail.com.

Cheers, m

tupai
02-11-2009, 04:59 PM
It would be a great idea...so long as it is kept focused on Kelana Jaya only

Unfortunately Im out for this TT session.

Email his assistant Faisal Mustaffa at bhg_kjaya@yahoo.com. You could also contact LGB directly at loh.gwoburne@yahoo.com, or low.gwoburne@gmail.com.

Cheers, m

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tupai
02-11-2009, 05:03 PM
also..

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OK..

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how now? lets hope his yahoo works...

Yang Beh-tahan incompetencies! latotupai
:mad:

bslee
02-11-2009, 05:04 PM
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Tupai...tried the "loh"...not low?

Hey YB Loh!... turun padang ya!...I think lots and lots of folks here like to get to know you a lot! :)

No time is not an option!

tupai
02-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Tupai...tried the "loh"...not low?
ok...will try this loh then..

lets see how low i will go to get his attention...and maybe AllUrb is laying the false trail??? :p :p

Yang Berlimbo rocks latotupai :p

bslee
02-11-2009, 05:32 PM
ok...will try this loh then..

lets see how low i will go to get his attention...and maybe AllUrb is laying the false trail??? :p :p

Yang Berlimbo rocks latotupai :p

Yo...don't say like that lah... people offer some lead, you say false trail..just short of telephone number.... how can leh??? ;)

firefox
02-11-2009, 05:55 PM
The selection of canditates of the last GE was done in haste. Next time the best must be chosen not half baked politicians.

bslee
02-11-2009, 05:57 PM
The selection of canditates of the last GE was done in a rush. Next time the best must be chosen not half baked politicians.

Oh oh!.... this is very subjective...easier said than done. Should be all think the others or all in the other camp are baked ones?...surely not!

AllUrban
03-11-2009, 10:55 AM
ok...will try this loh then..

lets see how low i will go to get his attention...and maybe AllUrb is laying the false trail??? :p :p

Yang Berlimbo rocks latotupai :peeee sorry for the misspelling.

Cheers, m

tupai
04-11-2009, 01:49 PM
eeee sorry for the misspelling.

Cheers, m

Mai Pen Rai :D

YB Loh replied...
================
hi,

sorry for the delay in updating my blog. My assistant who is doing that is having some legal issues (getting sued by a UMNO mp). Anywa I will get him to post something as soon as possible. Thanks for understanding.

Best Regards
GB
================


Yang Boleh tunggu lamalama latotupai

AllUrban
09-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Just wanted to follow up with this point:

Our councillors & MPSJ handle the basic longkang issues like noise complaints, waste not picked up, parking, health issues, bylaw enforcement.

Our ADUN should handle state-level issues like town & country planning, education, water, road transportation, waste management & recycling programs.

Our MP should handle national-level issues like the issues described in the National Key Result Areas....Crime & Law Enforcement, job creation & poverty reduction, improving public transport, to name but a few.

Our MP seems to be inactive and this is probably for many reasons ... lack of vision / support from his party leaders & members (more likely), lack of personal initiative (less likely).

Before we start going ahead and complaining about his inaction, I would like to know what he is expected to do that the Council & ADUN are not doing already?

Our Dewan Rakyat is a rubber stamp of the decisions made by the Cabinet and the Prime Minister's Department. There are no Parliamentary Select Committees with the exception of the Public Accounts Committee and he doesnt have the experience for that.

In other words, right now there is pretty much nothing for an MP to do that isnt already being done by the ADUN & Council.

Personally, I think that the LRT extension would have been a good opportunity for him to step up...because it is in Kelana Jaya and because he has expressed an interest in public transport...but that project seems to have been grabbed by the MPSJ and the ADUN so I dont know what role he could play anymore.

Cheers, m

bslee
09-11-2009, 01:32 PM
because it is in Kelana Jaya and because he has expressed an interest in public transport...but that project seems to have been grabbed by the MPSJ and the ADUN so I dont know what role he could play anymore.

Cheers, m

Keep watch, hold periodical meetings, give overviews and updates and make known to rakyat any relevant issues and what the heck is going on, regardless anyone wants to hear or not. Its like a regional manager's job and responsibility, should it be anything less than that?
Yes, no doubt he or any other may have their business or profession, but rakyat should be above it all and musn't be seen as inactive or non-effective, no?

AllUrban
09-11-2009, 01:36 PM
Keep watch, hold periodical meetings, give overviews and updates and make known to rakyat any relevant issues and what the heck is going on, regardless anyone wants to hear or not. Its like a regional manager's job and responsibility, should it be anything less than that?
Yes, no doubt he or any other may have their business or profession, but rakyat should be above it all, no?excellent suggestions...so the postings on his website arent enough...then we must tell him to hold the meetings, give overviews and updates of what he / we want for Kelana Jaya.

maybe a newsletter? A column "MP Speaks" in the SJ Echo?

Cheers, m

zinglicious
09-11-2009, 01:37 PM
As concerned citizen fights for rights and due recognitiom, so must MP or Adun. Especially so if they are elected. On the other hand, if the MP is a public figure, so we should have a figure what he or she is doing to justify our votes. Green horns or old hogs, doesnt matter as long as the KASH factor is there.
When asked for votes, every politicians asked to be elected, so they can serve for the benefits for the rakyat. But if the dishes are not seen and savored by the rakyat, of course we would be doing the questionings.
And they better comes up with the answers.
Even Obama popularity has been nosedived recently because the people there felt that not much has been done after the much fanfare. But the best lessons was the turn of event for Badawi in just two election under him.
People are reacting very fast nowadays. :cool:

firefox
09-11-2009, 01:51 PM
In this beloved country of ours political affairs revolves around money, needless do i have to continue?

zinglicious
09-11-2009, 02:07 PM
Actually I did not mispelled the alphabets of KASH -
K- Knowledge, A- Attitude, S- Skills, H- Habits
Perhaps you were referring to a lot of politicians who are in for cash and would even turn into katak. :D
But htere is still who did not wink even they are in the poltics for a long time. One that stands out in his long track of record - Tan Sri Tan Chee Khoon - God bless his soul.
( BTW, I do not know him, but read a lot about him. )

tupai
09-11-2009, 02:23 PM
Our MP should handle national-level issues like the issues described in the National Key Result Areas....Crime & Law Enforcement, job creation & poverty reduction, improving public transport, to name but a few.

Our MP seems to be inactive and this is probably for many reasons ... lack of vision / support from his party leaders & members (more likely), lack of personal initiative (less likely).

In other words, right now there is pretty much nothing for an MP to do that isnt already being done by the ADUN & Council.

Cheers, m[/QUOTE]

he should champion the the security roles played by the PDRM. Public safety of the rakyak in kelana jaya constituency (and the rest of the nation) is compromised when the pdrm is ineffective for various reasons...A revamp and a holistic approach to everything pdrm might just reverse the current deplorable public lack-of-security-issues.

Thats what he can champion...

Yang Berharap pagar latotupai

currymee
09-11-2009, 02:36 PM
......he should champion the the security roles played by the PDRM. Public safety of the rakyak in kelana jaya constituency (and the rest of the nation) is compromised when the pdrm is ineffective for various reasons...A revamp and a holistic approach to everything pdrm might just reverse the current deplorable public lack-of-security-issues.

Thats what he can champion...

Yang Berharap pagar latotupai

I fully agree with YB Tupai, if our MP needs a major issue he can champion for all members of his constituents esp in SJ and USJ - this is the one - effectiveness and security provided by PDRM (Polis), so that the forumers & neighbours don't have to end up arguing and fighting over Gated & Guarded (G&G) in all our areas as witnessed in some of the threads in this forum.

While I am supportive of G&G communities doing something for themselves, it should not be a permanent solution as the next step beyond G&G is the dreaded ARMED VIGILANTES or PRIVATE SECURITY FORCES - something to avoid, or it will be the end of neighbourliness in SJ/USJ coz, by that stage, everyone is treated a "suspected criminal" even those innocently lost driving !!

zinglicious
09-11-2009, 02:53 PM
he should champion the the security roles played by the PDRM. Public safety of the rakyak in kelana jaya constituency (and the rest of the nation) is compromised when the pdrm is ineffective for various reasons...A revamp and a holistic approach to everything pdrm might just reverse the current deplorable public lack-of-security-issues.

Thats what he can champion...

Yang Berharap pagar latotupai[/QUOTE]

I think he just miss the opportunity to be a better MP last week when he couldnt meet up with you at my place. what better tips can he get from the horses mouths, eh.... direct voters minds? :D
God gives us two ears and two eyes to listen more and see better. And two hands and legs to do the talkings.

bslee
09-11-2009, 05:01 PM
I'm only thinking aloud, rakyat may appraise based on desired results from various issues as performing very well. It doesn't neccessarily mean as if little or none is achieved during the term as a failure. All people view and appraise differently. In the case of YB Burne, I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet, maybe a year before next GE. I reckon, he should be seen and heard of frequently.

AllUrban
09-11-2009, 05:41 PM
he should champion the the security roles played by the PDRM. Public safety of the rakyak in kelana jaya constituency (and the rest of the nation) is compromised when the pdrm is ineffective for various reasons...A revamp and a holistic approach to everything pdrm might just reverse the current deplorable public lack-of-security-issues.

Thats what he can champion...

Yang Berharap pagar latotupaiI think that is a great idea...except that the ADUN has locked up the issue of public safety from a political standpoint .... :eek: oh no, am I talking about politics?

Well, to be fair she was there first :p

But Tupai, that in no way reduces the importance of the issue of public safety.

Where to begin tho? We have G n G activities, we have a guy on a motorcycle catching snatch thieves and educating the public on safety measures, we have SJ Alert, we have a good relationship with the police...

Where does the MP fit in all of that?

Cheers, m

firefox
09-11-2009, 06:07 PM
He is not the only black sheep there are many more MPs around who do nothing for the rakyat but made many promises during the election rallies ..they are being watched and marked.

AllUrban
09-11-2009, 06:22 PM
He is not the only black sheep there are many more MPs around who do nothing for the rakyat but made many promises during the election rallies ..they are being watched and marked.sounds scary...but you are probably right...

cheers, m

tupai
09-11-2009, 06:30 PM
He is not the only black sheep there are many more MPs around who do nothing for the rakyat but made many promises during the election rallies ..they are being watched and marked.

The usual Yang Berusaha Selfishly me ~ I care only for the MP who 'serves' in my area. I cannot be faulted for the other Yang Bodoh, Yang Biadap, Yang Blur, Yang Berkorupt, Yang Bo-Chap, Yang Bullpoo, Yang Banyak lagi badnames, in areas outside of kelana jaya (therefore subang jaya)...

Yang B Loh GB can champion the pdrm on a macro perspective...who knows the cops nationwide (esp the honest ones) might just luvv him to bits for approaching their welfare holistically...(for e.g. how many of us here can live comfy with low salary and in 600sq ft of space with 2-6kids etcetcetc...). He can take the first step, can he not?

I leave the itsybitsy micro issues (Balik kampong kempen, GnG, cubchai midenite-7am ronda by dubious characters etcetc) to the likes of ADUN & Councillors.

DOnt gimme cock&bull story like the previous badawi...that he mneed what 20years to effect changes? I wanna SEE and HEAR whats been done/going to be done/is doing! Never Mind if its W.I.P.!

I might be Yang Blur BUT I certainly ain't Yang Stupid in demanding that such macro changes can be done in 3-4years!

Draw up a roadmap. Put a time plan to it. Make regular WIP report...etcetc.
It doesnt mattter if the roadmap get sabotaged along the way, at least the MP champion something...DUH!

Something that over time can lead to a safer community living...


Yang Berfoaming mad latotupai :mad:

zinglicious
09-11-2009, 07:17 PM
Apart of the Polis work, I think If I were to serve him the dish, it would be aptly name hospitality chicken. Maybe less glamourous than the police work, but just as meaningful because at Subang Jaya, there are private hospitals but no govt hospitals to serve the needy. The adun is not doing it , right? Moreover as Adun , it is out of the league. It is D job for the MP because it needs federal funds and coordinations.
Sekurang kurang nya, he would be leaving a legacy that hospital is being built at Subang Jaya due to his effort and belief to serve the rakyat. in the midst of all those mega project at Subang Parade and airline hub hotel at SS15!
At least some lives would be saved, as private clinics have had been turning away patients because the victims were not well equipped with cash! :eek:

tupai
09-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Apart of the Polis work, I think If I were to serve him the dish, it would be aptly name hospitality chicken. Maybe less glamourous than the police work, but just as meaningful because at Subang Jaya, there are private hospitals but no govt hospitals to serve the needy. The adun is not doing it , right? Moreover as Adun , it is out of the league. It is D job for the MP because it needs federal funds and coordinations.
Sekurang kurang nya, he would be leaving a legacy that hospital is being built at Subang Jaya due to his effort and belief to serve the rakyat. in the midst of all those mega project at Subang Parade and airline hub hotel at SS15!
At least some lives would be saved, as private clinics have had been turning away patients because the victims were not well equipped with cash! :eek:

The ADUN is working on getting funding for Klinic Komuniti to serve the needies... You simply do not build a general hospital in a lazy middle class area lah! Middle class folks are the ones encouraging the sunrise bizz of private health care...Got money to make, no time to sit and wait lah in a gomen hospital lah!

The MP yb lgb can do more!

Yang Bukan Bo-chai latotupai

zinglicious
10-11-2009, 03:43 AM
Then can build a public library or a klinik komuniti in the center to serve the needy community, ah? :D

zinglicious
13-11-2009, 09:44 AM
Pssts, the bird whispered to me that your Kelana Jaya MP was at the USJ gated community talk given by Adun Hannah Yeoh. :) but unsure that he was parcipating in the talk presentation to the residents. The evidence of recorded by The Star.
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2009/11/13/central/5071504&sec=central

tictactoe
13-11-2009, 11:35 AM
I was at the townhall session in USJ6 last Sat morning. YB Loh was there. During the dialog/Q&A session Hannah and Ravi were swarmed! But Loh was very free. Based on my observation, many residents do not knw the difference between his role and Hannah's , e.g. there was this man bringing up the issue of the very light sentence for snatch thieves, he was going on and on about it with Hannah even after Hannah told him that it should be brought up in Parliment by Loh! And Loh was right there!

tupai
13-11-2009, 11:45 AM
Pssts, the bird whispered to me that your Kelana Jaya MP was at the USJ gated community talk given by Adun Hannah Yeoh. :) but unsure that he was parcipating in the talk presentation to the residents. The evidence of recorded by The Star.
http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2009/11/13/central/5071504&sec=central

Like i care about usj area? gated or otherwise?

I have enuff care and luving space in my heart for only ss17 and ss19...

Let each resident takes care of his own area...then when the timing is right (like about 2 godzillion years), we all gel together and be a force to reckon with :p howzat sound? :D

Yang Boleh pass gng laotupai

zinglicious
13-11-2009, 11:59 AM
I was at the townhall session in USJ6 last Sat morning. YB Loh was there. During the dialog/Q&A session Hannah and Ravi were swarmed! But Loh was very free. Based on my observation, many residents do not knw the difference between his role and Hannah's , e.g. there was this man bringing up the issue of the very light sentence for snatch thieves, he was going on and on about it with Hannah even after Hannah told him that it should be brought up in Parliment by Loh! And Loh was right there!

Now, I understand why YB Tupai was so pissed off., hence this thread. Therefore, it prove that not all of us are just critical of govt, we are actually actually critcal about inefficient and ineffective MP, policies and polisi ;)

firefox
14-11-2009, 03:32 PM
You might have seen his mug when he appeared in the parliment lobby over the re emergence of the Lingham's case.

Cant forget he had the most damaging evidence but its seems all in vain at the moment.