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Confucius
17-10-2009, 11:07 PM
I noticed that many real estate agents "freely and generously" quote the built up area of the houses they advertise. Does anyone know what is the proper way to compute the built up area of a house?

BMW9700
17-10-2009, 11:22 PM
I noticed that many real estate agents "freely and generously" quote the built up area of the houses they advertise. Does anyone know what is the proper way to compute the built up area of a house?


as far as i know the built up area of a house is the footprint of the building including the aprons up to the drains...real estate agents use the usable floor area which includes the floor area for 1st floor etc...built up means the exacly that..the footprint..price for built up must only be based on footprint..pls correct me otherwise

regards

Confucius
17-10-2009, 11:35 PM
So what you are saying is the Covered Area (i.e. areas covered by the roof?). Does it include the car porch area? Someone offered this interpretation:

1) Covered area: all areas covered by the roof (meaning the footprint up to the drains-as your interpretaton)
2) Carpet area: wall-to-wall useable area
3) Built up area: Carpet area + stairways+balcony and doesn't include the terrace and car porch..

So what is your comment?

Thanks, Rgds.

BMW9700
17-10-2009, 11:42 PM
what im am saying is not the roofed areas...it is the footprint as far as the built up is on ground..ie the concreted area up to drains...

regards

sblsbl
18-10-2009, 11:11 AM
Call them. :D

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tehmc
18-10-2009, 11:39 AM
I have noticed that the term 'built-up area' has been loosely used/misued by developers, without following any official, agreed definition.

In my opinion, 'built-up' is a general term as in 'urban area' or 'rural area' and is not meant to be quantifiable. In town-planning, there is also the term 'plinth area' which also refers to the 'portion of the land that is covered by a building' - which seems to have the same meaning as 'built-up area' though expressed as a percentage.
http://klcityplan2020.dbkl.gov.my/eis/?page_id=165

Why would the real estate agents/developers only give the 'footprint area' in a double storey house? What about the area on the upper floor(s)? The area given should be related to the price of the house so it is the total usable area that matters. It is simply called the total floor area or gross floor area (GFA) and whether it includes the ancillary areas for car porch, patios, balconies, etc should also be stated, or else it will be subject to misinterpretation. Developers tend to include the ancillary areas for obvious reasons.
The other term is nett floor area which is the useable area of a building minus the area for services and circulation.

No, I don't think the apron area next to the drain should come into the picture, else you might as well include the driveway and other paved areas.

Sentinel
18-10-2009, 12:16 PM
The "Built-up area" used in commercial terms for commercial and residential properties are those usable areas. Residential property owners are only interested in how sq ft living area (usable) in a house while commercial property owners are interested in amount in sq ft they can utilise or rent out.

Architects and valuers use the term 'built up area' differently... they are only interested in the 'footprint' used up in a construction of a property.

tehmc
18-10-2009, 02:08 PM
Architects and valuers use the term 'built up area' differently... they are only interested in the 'footprint' used up in a construction of a property.

Not really. It's a misuse of term. Who's interested in the 'footprint' only? Probably the town-planner who does a breakdown of the land coverage for eg. 'built-up' as opposed to 'green area'.

Why can't they just call it Gross Floor Area? IMO, it's more of a Malaysian term.

Confucius
19-10-2009, 12:00 AM
Wow, so many ways of interpretation. Hmm..that's why many of us (at least me) are confused. Are there anyone out there who can be more precise with examples like floor plans and shows how and where built up area should be calculated?

Jaytea
19-10-2009, 10:08 PM
you may want to call PAM to ask them to explain to you
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50726 Kuala Lumpur.
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i remember when my parents renovated the house, the architect 's plan would have the sq ft build up stated.
maybe you could ask the owners for the architect's plan if the house is renovated. this would also help you know if the house reno has plans which were submitted and approved by the local council or not.

BMW9700
19-10-2009, 10:40 PM
for engineering and construction purposes and the buiding authority, they will look at the plinth area on the ground

for real estate agents they will look at the useable area which includer the upper floors..

as far as built up area goed you are required to state the plinth area..this is for engineering and council valuation purposes.

Sentinel
19-10-2009, 10:41 PM
Brader... what is plinth area? Not all of us here are well versed lah... :D

Confucius
21-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Hello! Anyone who can throw more light into this topic?

BMW9700
21-10-2009, 01:00 PM
Brader... what is plinth area? Not all of us here are well versed lah... :D

sorry, plinth area is the footprint of the building on the ground...