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Raikonen
10-10-2009, 04:24 PM
Both Ong and Chua rejected...Totally irrelevant both of them..good riddance

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/114703

Sentinel
10-10-2009, 04:34 PM
That calls for a toast and CELEBRATION. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1popwWI546I)

Raikonen
10-10-2009, 04:42 PM
That calls for a toast and CELEBRATION. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1popwWI546I)

U Liow Tiong Lai supporter ah? :D

Sentinel
10-10-2009, 04:51 PM
U Liow Tiong Lai supporter ah? :DNo way lah... to me the celebration is for the implosion and the beginning of the end of a totally out-of-touch and irrelevant race-based towkay-dominated political party.

Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia!

dragonfly
10-10-2009, 05:26 PM
Tiong.........the Kuala Dimensi boss would be the happiest man. Good riddance Tee keat!! Will Ong's replacement be as keen to pursue the PKZ Scandal??

besitai2007
10-10-2009, 05:44 PM
Out to bad rubbish. Whatever happens to MCA is not relevent to us. Can't see Liow come out as an angel in all this.

Mat Bruce
10-10-2009, 05:46 PM
Both Ong and Chua rejected...Totally irrelevant both of them..good riddance

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/114703


why post a link that needs subscription?

Ditto
10-10-2009, 06:01 PM
Whatever la..who cares? :rolleyes:

MasterQ
10-10-2009, 06:01 PM
The results were officially announced at 4.03 p.m.

Resolution 1 - OKT lost his vote of confidence in his leadership by 14 votes.
Resolution 2 - CSL accepted back as ordinary MCA member by 109 votes but
Resolution 3 - CSL failed to regain his Deputy President post by 74 votes which means even if OKT resigns as President, CSL cannot assume the Presidential post.

Although OKT is not officially voted out by the EGM as the party constitution has not specified that a party president given the no-confidence vote must quit, nevertheless OKT himself said he will resign as President if he lost the no confidence vote on his leadership. In fact he said that his whole Central Committee will resign en bloc based on the message sent out should the delegates voted no confidence in him. When compared to the obstinate Samy Vellu, OKT is a real gentleman. To remove him as President, two-thirds of the delegates' votes are needed. From the behaviour and results of the just concluded EGM, I don't see how this two thirds are going to come about unless there are phantom delegates.

Now that the 2 men are voted out, who will fill their shoes? Unlike the Ong Ka Ting and Chan Kong Choy solution that were negociated between the warring parties, the replacement for OKT and CSL came too quick and unexpected and therefore there was no effective Plan B by the Third Force who was believed to have orchestrated this unexpected results. I feel that third echelon leadership are all green horns. It looks like Liow Tiong Lai is the best bet but I am afraid he will bring along the H1N1 virus with him.

zap188
10-10-2009, 06:15 PM
Tiong.........the Kuala Dimensi boss would be the happiest man. Good riddance Tee keat!! Will Ong's replacement be as keen to pursue the PKZ Scandal??

Isn't this contradictory? You are happy with the removal of OTK but unsure whether would there be anyone else to continue to unravel the black hole of PKFZ. Do you expect the Third Force to be gung ho in stirring up the hornets' nest again?

Fang Su
10-10-2009, 06:17 PM
Although OKT is not officially voted out by the EGM as the party constitution has not specified that a party president given the no-confidence vote must quit, nevertheless OKT himself said he will resign as President if he lost the no confidence vote on his leadership. In fact he said that his whole Central Committee will resign en bloc based on the message sent out should the delegates voted no confidence in him. To remove him as President, two-thirds of the delegates' votes are needed. From the behaviour and results of the just concluded EGM, I don't see how this two thirds are going to come about unless there are phantom delegates.



It appears that OKT may not kept to his earlier assertation that he would resign if we go by his comments as reported in The Star: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/10/10/nation/20091010181150&sec=nation

Raikonen
10-10-2009, 07:32 PM
why post a link that needs subscription?

So? Time to get one if you wanna read more...

Link is to substantiate the statement and avoid pisang goreng for rumor mongering...Paste some more than the link and another banana for copyright...Put more and more and get more bananas...

Bananas not good for health

MasterQ
11-10-2009, 02:16 AM
I agreed with Mat Bruce who said, "Why post a link that needs subscription?" To me it is plain laziness. The comment I just posted came from Malaysiakini, The Star and Sin Chew Jit Poh. I just combined the reports using my own words and then made my own conclusion. We don't need people to point us here and there. People can just google themselves. And so mah huan to go off from the forum site just to read what is published there some more need to pay. I don't think Chang will banana you if you don't cut and paste here. People want to read your own opinion.

Sukdershan
11-10-2009, 02:57 AM
I agreed with Mat Bruce who said, "Why post a link that needs subscription?" To me it is plain laziness. The comment I just posted came from Malaysiakini, The Star and Sin Chew Jit Poh. I just combined the reports using my own words and then made my own conclusion. We don't need people to point us here and there. People can just google themselves. And so mah huan to go off from the forum site just to read what is published there some more need to pay. I don't think Chang will banana you if you don't cut and paste here. People want to read your own opinion. copy rights Act
:)

Sukdershan
11-10-2009, 03:00 AM
I just combined the reports using my own words and then made my own conclusion. We don't need people to point us here and there. People can just google themselves. And so mah huan to go off from the forum site just to read what is published there some more need to pay. I don't think Chang will banana you if you don't cut and paste here. People want to read your own opinion.[/QUOTE]


Well some prefer it otherwise. NONE of us can prop up any benchmarkings as to how postings should be made, other than the Admin. pendapat saya yang bernilai 2 sen. :cool: :cool:

besitai2007
11-10-2009, 06:21 AM
I subscribe to Malaysiakini and find the site quite balanced in its reporting, including publishings views from both sides of the divide. I subscribe to the site to support it because they need to pay the cost of employing people and running the website. It is just a choice. Malaysia Insider is free, for the moment.

patling63
11-10-2009, 12:07 PM
Who cares about MCA nowadays! Busy fighting among themselves than looking into the welfare of the Chinese. :mad:

Sentinel
11-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Looks like big brotha UMNO is telling the MCA President to pack up and go... Read it HERE (http://www.malaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/40053-najib-hints-that-ong-should-go) I guess OTK's straight-talking and his expose of the the PKFZ is creating some uneasiness amongst the rest of the BN leadership. I wonder if he is suspected of leaking those Cabinet meeting minutes to Raja Petra?

I can't help noticing the statement by the PM that says "UMNO is willing to help out MCA sort out the mess". I wonder if it is going to be like those days when the late Tun Ghaffar Baba was appointed as interim President of MCA to sort out the previous mess.

MCA is getting more irrelevant by the day. I guess this is what happens when insincere leaders place more importance on their own personal pride and agenda than those of the party or community.... :mad:

Anyway, here's an alternative view of the entire MCA circus held yesterday from DR RAFICK. (http://rights2write.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/mca-the-final-curtain/)

yvonnefoong
11-10-2009, 06:18 PM
I agreed with Mat Bruce who said, "Why post a link that needs subscription?" To me it is plain laziness. The comment I just posted came from Malaysiakini, The Star and Sin Chew Jit Poh. I just combined the reports using my own words and then made my own conclusion. We don't need people to point us here and there. People can just google themselves. And so mah huan to go off from the forum site just to read what is published there some more need to pay. I don't think Chang will banana you if you don't cut and paste here. People want to read your own opinion.

But that's how conversations can get started here, what.

Person A: Hey, you heard the ruckus? That Ong and Chua... how irrelevant!
Person B: What? What talking you?
Person A: There..... *points to newspaper*.

USJ27Resident
11-10-2009, 06:35 PM
whatever - still GRTBR !!! good riddance to bad rubbish

all politicians should have EXPIRY or EOL SERVICE TAGS!! :p

... should either retire or drop dead, both exits would be fine... :D

Sentinel
11-10-2009, 08:41 PM
So, if PM Najib does not 'prefer' to have OTK remain as President of MCA, does it mean we are going to see nothing on the PKFZ / Kuala Dimensi thinghy anymore? Is it going to be all sandiwara dan bangsawan from now on and everything is just for show only? Just like the VK Lingam Royal Commission of Inquiry fiasco - NFA (No Further Action)?

And whats gonna happen to the OTK-nominated Chairman of PKA ie ex-Subang Jaya ADUN Lee Hwa Beng?

More questions now than answers.... its true, we deserve the government we (majority of us) chose. :mad:

Sentinel
12-10-2009, 12:16 PM
If OTK and CSL are both out as President and Deputy President of MCA, have you ever wondered who amongst these three Vice-Presidents will be the next head honcho:

i) Liow Tiong Lai
ii) Ng Yen Yen
iii) Ong Ka Chuan

Scary isn't it?

SunwayK
12-10-2009, 12:26 PM
If OTK and CSL are both out as President and Deputy President of MCA, have you ever wondered who amongst these three Vice-Presidents will be the next head honcho:

i) Liow Tiong Lai
ii) Ng Yen Yen
iii) Ong Ka Chuan

Scary isn't it?

That is incorrect - the names but not the scary part. OKC is not a VP - he lost to CSL in the last election for Deputy. The other 2 VPs are Kong Cho Ha and Tan Kok Hong plus the MCA Youth Chief and Wanita Chief who were co-opted in due to their positions.

Sentinel
12-10-2009, 12:36 PM
So, who are the 3 Vice Presidents? I got the names from a blog therefore not accurate, my apologies. Chow Mai Fun one of the potentials? Thats more scary...

zinglicious
12-10-2009, 12:54 PM
OC is out , what is next ? Co... interuptus? Whatever it is, things get artifically nice with Chow Mei Fun which can command loads of comments like our <strike>Ng Yam Yam</strike>.
And with the probable three, imagine, Chow Mei Fun, <strike>Ng Yum Yum</strike> and OK Chau :D

bslee
12-10-2009, 01:04 PM
And with the probable three, imagine, Chow Mei Fun, Ng Yum Yum and OK Chau :D

Tai Wok!... :D :D :D

firefox
12-10-2009, 01:05 PM
Its about time this towkay club close shop and pack up.. just like the other componet parties of BN they are irrelevent.

bslee
12-10-2009, 01:13 PM
Its about time this towkay club close shop and pack up.. just like the other componet parties of BN they are irrelevent.

Won't happen lah...so are other parties called irrelevent are still there mah?
The more you tell them they're so and so..the more they survive despite the odds, no? I suppose the more people condemn them, the stronger they seem to bounce back...like one dominant pack?

SunwayK
12-10-2009, 01:54 PM
So, who are the 3 Vice Presidents? I got the names from a blog therefore not accurate, my apologies. Chow Mai Fun one of the potentials? Thats more scary...

There are 6 - 4 elected VPs and 2 nominated VPs.
Two - you have named (i) and (ii) - LTL & NYY
Two - I have named - KCH & TKH
Two by virture of their position - WJS & CMF

It should not matter to most of the Chinese as none of them were elected by majority of the race to represent them.

Raikonen
12-10-2009, 09:21 PM
I agreed with Mat Bruce who said, "Why post a link that needs subscription?" To me it is plain laziness. The comment I just posted came from Malaysiakini, The Star and Sin Chew Jit Poh. I just combined the reports using my own words and then made my own conclusion. We don't need people to point us here and there. People can just google themselves. And so mah huan to go off from the forum site just to read what is published there some more need to pay. I don't think Chang will banana you if you don't cut and paste here. People want to read your own opinion.

Don't expect people to write or be the reporter u want la...However short or long, it is up to individual la...Some people wanna be chi kor pek and write funny things also no problem wif me...

Anyway end of storyline for this thread since both the actors are out

USJ27Resident
12-10-2009, 09:31 PM
whatever - still GRTBR !!! good riddance to bad rubbish

all politicians should have EXPIRY or EOL SERVICE TAGS!! :p

... should either retire or drop dead, both exits would be fine... :D

Said it once, will say it again... Good riddance..!! Mebbe that LHB would now run for Presidente's post pulak... :p

I can imagine him running MCA.... everytime something crops up.. "errr... my hands are tied la..." :D

Sentinel
13-10-2009, 12:18 AM
LHB was a nominated PKA Chairman by present MCA President OTK and has been very forthcoming in making reports against Kuala Dimensi etc... now that OTK's wings have been clipped, LHB's position as Chairman will be in a precarious situation.

Just imagine... President Ng Yen Yen, Deputy President Chow Mai Fun etc... that will be the day...

Chia Hak Soon
13-10-2009, 12:08 PM
Bet OTK will come out of leave and says he will finish his term as the constitution allows only a two third majority to rid of a president. This is politics, if samy can do it why can't OTK. In politics there is no principles ,just make it like " seem to be ". correct, correct. correct.

zap188
13-10-2009, 12:24 PM
Bet OTK will come out of leave and says he will finish his term as the constitution allows only a two third majority to rid of a president. This is politics, if samy can do it why can't OTK. In politics there is no principles ,just make it like " seem to be ". correct, correct. correct.

What happened if CSL and the 3rd force called for another EGM? Wont you have another PPP in the making?

Sentinel
13-10-2009, 03:47 PM
What happened if CSL and the 3rd force called for another EGM? Wont you have another PPP in the making?Do these politicians really care what happens to the party? Do they really care if the community's interest which they claim to represent is jeopardized? Nah... all they care for is who becomes the President, who gets a Cabinet post appointment and who gets the bulk of the contracts...

If they had really placed the party and community's interest ahead of their own personal interest, they would have buried the hatchet and worked hard for the community... no, they have to push each other out, start an investigation against the other, called separate EGMs... basically these people only care for themselves and their personal agenda.

I see no loss if both Chua and OTK are out for good. Give the others a chance too to show what they can do...

zinglicious
13-10-2009, 03:54 PM
But all along it is the party of gorillas and chimpanzee? What can they do apart from doing some circus tricks :D

firefox
13-10-2009, 03:55 PM
[FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=4]Do these politicians really care what happens to the party? Do they really care if the community's interest which they claim to represent is jeopardized? Nah... all they care for is who becomes the President, who gets a Cabinet post appointment and who gets the bulk of the contracts...



Exactly, but this is getting too political i am sure...but i need to add on, by losing 5 rich states makes them more frustrated so they are clawing each other for the crumbs.

USJ27Resident
13-10-2009, 04:12 PM
If they had really placed the party and community's interest ahead of their own personal interest, they would have buried the hatchet and worked hard for the community... no, they have to push each other out, start an investigation against the other, called separate EGMs... basically these people only care for themselves and their personal agenda.

Spot on... now I'll bet those other VPs and other leaders are keeping their cards close to their chest - as to NOT be seen as hastening the demise of these two juggernauts... Once these two are officially gone... it a different ballgame....

Come to think of it and I hate to admit it - with all the leadership tussles ongoing with all these component parties [PPP/MIC/MCA], the only one that looks good is good old UMNO, sitting looking pretty and united in terms of unity, leadership and control... heck, even the IPP [a BN supporter but NOT in BN] got their troubles... wonder whats next...

zinglicious
13-10-2009, 04:20 PM
And the beats goes on..... send in the clowns. :D

Sentinel
13-10-2009, 04:43 PM
We all know corruption is rampant... it is everywhere... it has become a way of life... even kids sitting pretty behind Daddy in a SUV could say "hey Dad, if they give you a summon, just give them kopi money loh..." Corruption is the scourge that has permeated every layer of our society and destroying the entire fabrics bit by bit. We need to rid this society of this virus.

It doesn't matter to me who will win the next General Elections, be it BN or PR, but as long as we the people who mark the ballot paper know that we need to vote for the right party to get rid of this corruption scourge, then I think we are on the right track.

Having said that, we need to make sure we are registered as voters and our family members are also registered. We must all vote responsibly for what we want this country to become, lets make sure of that!

currymee
13-10-2009, 04:46 PM
Sentinel, 100% agree - unfortunaetely, some voters also can be bought .... :mad:

Sentinel
13-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Sentinel, 100% agree - unfortunaetely, some voters also can be bought .... :mad:You cannot blame these voters... look at those at Siliau and Bagan Pinang in the just-completed by-election, their monthly income is RM200-400 and do you think they care about education policy changes? do you think they care about human rights? or corruption issues? PKFZ? Teoh Beng Hock? Kugan? Altantuya? Scorpene submarines? Independent Judiciary?

No way, they care about where their next meal is coming from. Short term, not long term, food on the table is their first concern....

That is why some free sarees and free muruku flour ALLEGEDLY dished out by some election candidate/s did the trick...

zinglicious
13-10-2009, 05:06 PM
This time I dont actually think it is the saree or muruku but it was the PAS undoing which cause the landslide victory. And the postal votes wasnt the factor , too!
The PAS politicians ungodly act has send them to Hell! They don't practice they practice while doing the holier than thou sermons. People do care about what happen next after they finished thier murukus like when are the govt going to build more schools and hospitals and jobs opportunities......

Sentinel
13-10-2009, 05:30 PM
Lets give credit where credit is due. BN needed this win in Bagan Pinang so badly and they did everything they could do (and cannot do) to win the election. I was there on the ground for 2 days before the polling day, no way PAS could win.

What you said about the "holier than thou" acts by people like Hassan Ali might have caused the loss of votes but frankly, it was a BN stronghold and the way BN machinery worked in the by-election, no way for PAS.

To me personally, it was good to lose. It shall be a wake-up call for PAS. If I may quote what Dr. Rafick wrote in his blog right2write, PAS people have their heads grown too big now for their skull caps (kopiak). :D

Chia Hak Soon
14-10-2009, 10:49 AM
In Malaysia, if you cannot earn it , BUY it. To me that's Bagan pinang. The folks are happy and bn are happy. But are they loyal ? and for how long ? Thats the problem.

tupai
14-10-2009, 11:00 AM
Sentinel's opinios above reflect my feel too..it just that i cant express it as eloquently and will most probably say the politically incorrect stuff :p

Anyway, I SOKONG 100% that to eradicate corruption starts with YOU & YOU & YOU & YOU and ME...and also we MUST get ALL family members to register for the next election.

The way forward to a better future for out next generation gotta start with US! unless of course, u wanna emigrate soon lah. :p

Yang Belum mahu emigrate latotupai :)

p/s the MCA crooks? They are all the same. Corrupted and serviing ownselves and their hanger-ons. They DONT serve the rest of the chinese community...these MCA can-all-go-to-hell politicians dont give a flying banana: khi-si lah!

Jennylim
14-10-2009, 11:32 AM
Who cares about MCA nowadays! Busy fighting among themselves than looking into the welfare of the Chinese. :mad:

I think this is a growing or changing process. I believe the reason why MCA works very well with BN in the past- These peoples in MCA share same key value with UMNO.

Look at PM and DPM's comments, it seems OTK don't share the same value with them. MCA is an old party, it is not surprising if 50% of them still hold the old values. OTK is an obstacle to many peoples who want to get rich. Therefore, the internal fight is expected.

If I am OTK, I will stay put and let the rest who threaten to leave leaves.

Rhiga
14-10-2009, 11:43 AM
I think this is a growing or changing process. I believe the reason why MCA works very well with BN in the past- These peoples in MCA share same key value with UMNO.

Look at PM and DPM's comments, it seems OTK don't share the same value with them. MCA is an old party, it is not surprising if 50% of them still hold the old values. OTK is an obstacle to many peoples who want to get rich. Therefore, the internal fight is expected.

If I am OTK, I will stay put and let the rest who threaten to leave leaves.

I just wanna talk about OTK approach/style.

He stirred a big hornet nest and made enemies inside and outside BN, previous and present.

I don’t know his true characters ; principal-minded ? katak ?, etc, I don’t know.

But I give credit to him being indifferent in BN and challenge something which too costly for him to pay.

At the end of the day, he gains nothing compare to his predecessors who can retire comfortably here or abroad…….

Sentinel
14-10-2009, 11:49 AM
Sagamihara... you're right. He was a thorn in the flesh for present and past Barisan colleagues. Did he do the right thing? No one will ever know. Could he have changed things working smart and quietly? Maybe...

Whatever it is, he can't stay... the 'third force' and the UMNO colleagues will pressure him out.

tupai
14-10-2009, 11:50 AM
I just wanna talk about OTK approach/style.

He stirred a big hornet nest and made enemies inside and outside BN, previous and present.

I don’t know his true characters ; principal-minded ? katak ?, etc, I don’t know.

But I give credit to him being indifferent in BN and challenge something which too costly for him to pay.

At the end of the day, he gains nothing compare to his predecessor who can retire comfortably here or abroad…….

you mean predecessors...plurals...and their family members. Hahahahah. How much is enuff? May the ill-gotten gains show them the str8-way-2-hell or they also think str82heaven thru St Peter or whatever God can be bought too? ;)
hahahahhaha....

Rhiga
14-10-2009, 11:55 AM
correcto ! it should be predecessors..

Sentinel
14-10-2009, 03:58 PM
I said it that these politikus are only interested in their personal ambitions and I have been proven right.

The body is still not dead and the body is still warm but the vultures are already circling overhead. Read it HERE. (http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/40312-ka-siong-yen-yen-out-of-the-picture)

Mat Bruce
15-10-2009, 01:06 AM
If person is seen to be doing the right thing and your intuition tells you that he is doing the right thing..then it would seem that OTK is doing the right thing..and being penalised for it...
So if you do not support him for doing the right thing..then you are also not doing the right thing..yourself...
Bravo to him for daring to dig the dirt out and go as far as he did...

It does not matter if it is personal or not, what matters is that he wants the truth...and we all wants the truth in the PKA fiasco...

So my opinion is that yes, I was suspicous of his actions initially..but I must say that I have some admiration for his courage..

OTK, I think you should not step down..any lesser man will have kept quiet..

Even Pau chin Tian was wrongly accused but stand the righteous stand and you will be vindicated...and people will really support you..

Mat Bruce
15-10-2009, 01:20 AM
Sagamihara... you're right. He was a thorn in the flesh for present and past Barisan colleagues. Did he do the right thing? No one will ever know. Could he have changed things working smart and quietly? Maybe...

Whatever it is, he can't stay... the 'third force' and the UMNO colleagues will pressure him out.

yeah...no room for honesty that big..

ksj_cool
15-10-2009, 08:51 AM
To me the two vice presidents are not presidential material. I prefer Ong to stay! He is daring and tough, that is very important at this juncture of malaysian politics.

firefox
16-10-2009, 03:08 PM
If now the members want Ong to remain then what was the purpose of the EGM?

Jennylim
17-10-2009, 11:05 PM
ong's site is not accessible ! something to do with what he post about his Big Brother in U Must Not Object???

Sentinel
18-10-2009, 12:36 PM
If now the members want Ong to remain then what was the purpose of the EGM?The EGM backfired, OTK underestimated the power (or is it prowess) of his deputy CSL. The EGM was to oust CSL and reaffirm his position but a "third force" just interfered in the EGM and took over some 300-400 delegates... all hell broke loose...

The knife cuts both ways, this saying is so true here. What you can do, others can do better. OTK learnt the bitter lesson and he confirmed this by expressing his "dissappointment that comrades deserted him..." So many years in MCA and politics and only now he learns about "loyalty"???

I am not a fan of MCA so whoever is the head honcho usually doesn't bother me. But now I am rooting for OTK to stay simply because as a Malaysian and a taxpayer, I want to see the cans of worms in the PKFZ fiasco... yes, we all need to support OTK here just to let him open the can of worms on PKFZ!

OTK, here's the can opener.... :D

sblsbl
18-10-2009, 12:42 PM
The EGM backfired, OTK underestimated the power (or is it prowess) of his deputy CSL. The EGM was to oust CSL and reaffirm his position but a "third force" just interfered in the EGM and took over some 300-400 delegates... all hell broke loose...

The knife cuts both ways, this saying is so true here. What you can do, others can do better. OTK learnt the bitter lesson and he confirmed this by expressing his "dissappointment that comrades deserted him..." So many years in MCA and politics and only now he learns about "loyalty"???

I am not a fan of MCA so whoever is the head honcho usually doesn't bother me. But now I am rooting for OTK to stay simply because as a Malaysian and a taxpayer, I want to see the cans of worms in the PKFZ fiasco... yes, we all need to support OTK here just to let him open the can of worms on PKFZ!

OTK, here's the can opener.... :D


I bet his a sight for sore eyes for Najib who's busy rebranding himself through the 1malaysia bullsh*t.

Sentinel
18-10-2009, 12:51 PM
I bet his a sight for sore eyes for Najib who's busy rebranding himself through the 1malaysia bullsh*t.Can you clarify your statement so that some of us can understand better what you're implying?

zap188
18-10-2009, 01:54 PM
But now I am rooting for OTK to stay simply because as a Malaysian and a taxpayer, I want to see the cans of worms in the PKFZ fiasco... yes, we all need to support OTK here just to let him open the can of worms on PKFZ!


I second this...tick tock tick tock.....who's who will explode?

Mat Bruce
18-10-2009, 11:25 PM
Can you clarify your statement so that some of us can understand better what you're implying?

That the PKA BS goes higher than DP OC Phang?

Mat Bruce
18-10-2009, 11:38 PM
The EGM backfired, OTK underestimated the power (or is it prowess) of his deputy CSL. The EGM was to oust CSL and reaffirm his position but a "third force" just interfered in the EGM and took over some 300-400 delegates... all hell broke loose...

The knife cuts both ways, this saying is so true here. What you can do, others can do better. OTK learnt the bitter lesson and he confirmed this by expressing his "dissappointment that comrades deserted him..." So many years in MCA and politics and only now he learns about "loyalty"???

I am not a fan of MCA so whoever is the head honcho usually doesn't bother me. But now I am rooting for OTK to stay simply because as a Malaysian and a taxpayer, I want to see the cans of worms in the PKFZ fiasco... yes, we all need to support OTK here just to let him open the can of worms on PKFZ!

OTK, here's the can opener.... :D

I think there are snakes not only worms...big snakes too..

flamethrower
19-10-2009, 10:25 AM
I think there are snakes not only worms...big snakes too..
Tough job ahead for OTK - A leader who leads by reading comics . ! susah lah...

USJ27Resident
27-10-2009, 03:06 PM
Spot on... now I'll bet those other VPs and other leaders are keeping their cards close to their chest - as to NOT be seen as hastening the demise of these two juggernauts... Once these two are officially gone... it a different ballgame....

hhahahahaaa... hahahaaa... I guessed right!!!

but I guess someone spilled the beans and MACC got tipped about the luxury MPV that was bought for the wife of one VP.... ;)

NOT suprisingly the company that bought the vehicle was 'allegedly given' the contracts/tenders to supply the alleged ministry. I wonder why the HUGE silence now... part of the ceasefire/compromise... :rolleyes:

Sentinel
27-10-2009, 07:45 PM
A very interesting article by Nadeswaran (Citizen Nades) in theSun yesterday... according to him the PKFZ is all going to be a wayang soon.

Three reports from PwC pointing out the crimes and the criminals and LHB (your friendly ex-ADUN) is just continuing to make police report day after day and nothing happens... MACC don't move, Police don't move and even the AG's office pun diam diam sahaja...

Let me see if I can cut and paste his article coz I dunno how to link when it comes to theSun.

USJ27Resident
27-10-2009, 09:46 PM
Let me see if I can cut and paste his article coz I dunno how to link when it comes to theSun.

Sentinel, here you go.... the article you've mentioned. :D A very interesting article... if I may say.... (http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=39411)

But the best part that comes into focus... looks like someone else (http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=39474) upping the ante amd is planning to gamble everything...

no more hiding and hoping... to me, it seems that this time history is not gonna repeat itself... ala the Neo Yee Pan/Tan Koon Swan spat where a very patient Ling Leong Sik sat quietly in the wings and then swiftly moved in and took over MCA's leadership... :)

firefox
03-11-2009, 05:00 PM
Chua is IN officialy, ROS says so, back as deputy President..so what is next for Mca?

zinglicious
04-11-2009, 04:02 AM
Two words - Me ow......( translation - Mau.!!! ):D

USJ27Resident
04-11-2009, 06:34 PM
Liow now wants to challenge ROS decision... somebody skating on very thin ice.... might just end up [literally] being in poorer health...for a health minister... ;) :p :D

cannot wait to see these 'flers start throwing bull patties at each other... :D