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besitai2007
19-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Mr Rajiv,
Since you brought up the problem of the infamous Taipan tarffic problem as one of your target areas, may I suggest that a traffic warden be specifically assigned to the area. He/She should go there at odd times, not at predictable times and summon all those people who double park or park haphazardly. That's the only way to solve the problem. I did see a traffic warden writing summons now and then but Malaysians being what they are obey rules only when a person of authority is around. If they know the warden only comes at a certain time only, they will still carry on their old ways. Towing away of cars used to be done but has MPSJ stopped it?

I see the same problem on the road between Subang Parade and Carrefore. There was some action taken but after that the cars are back where they are blocking traffic.

firefox
19-09-2009, 04:55 PM
Mr Rajiv,
Since you brought up the problem of the infamous Taipan tarffic problem as one of your target areas, may I suggest that a traffic warden be specifically assigned to the area. He/She should go there at odd times, not at predictable times and summon all those people who double park or park haphazardly. That's the only way to solve the problem. I did see a traffic warden writing summons now and then but Malaysians being what they are obey rules only when a person of authority is around. If they know the warden only comes at a certain time only, they will still carry on their old ways. Towing away of cars used to be done but has MPSJ stopped it?

I see the same problem on the road between Subang Parade and Carrefore. There was some action taken but after that the cars are back where they are blocking traffic.

A very good suggestion, I am all for it, i am too getting fed up with the bottleneck between SP and Carrefour and the double parking along Public bank SS15, but then i too realise there are insufficient parking lots in these areas, but something has to be done.

But Rajiv is a councillor for only USJ, am i right?

chookyan
19-09-2009, 05:05 PM
[QUOTE=firefox]A very good suggestion, I am all for it, i am too getting fed up with the bottleneck between SP and Carrefour

Something should also be done on the illegal parking at side and front of Carrefour, it is a real pain. Is it so difficult to park in the FOC car park and go shop!

patrick
19-09-2009, 08:19 PM
Mr Rajiv,
Since you brought up the problem of the infamous Taipan tarffic problem as one of your target areas, may I suggest that a traffic warden be specifically assigned to the area. He/She should go there at odd times...........


Where Taipan is concerned, I believe even putting a full time traffic warden(s)/enforcement officer(s) there is self-paying. If they diligently issue summons there, the revenue generated will be more than sufficient to cover for more than just one officer stationed full time there.

rajiv
20-09-2009, 12:27 AM
Where Taipan is concerned, I believe even putting a full time traffic warden(s)/enforcement officer(s) there is self-paying. If they diligently issue summons there, the revenue generated will be more than sufficient to cover for more than just one officer stationed full time there.


Haha, theoretically yes, but when the enforcement is spotted, then people suddenly behaving, drying up the opportunity for summons.

I'm working on a plan, will post it up shortly... (and yerp, it would involve more enforcement there)

rajiv
20-09-2009, 12:31 AM
A very good suggestion, I am all for it, i am too getting fed up with the bottleneck between SP and Carrefour and the double parking along Public bank SS15, but then i too realise there are insufficient parking lots in these areas, but something has to be done.

But Rajiv is a councillor for only USJ, am i right?
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Yup, my area is USJ2-15. For Carrefour/Subang Parade, Mdm Theresa would be the councillor in charge. You can get her at theresa@mpsj.gov.my

How do we feel about legalised & regulated double parking?

simon_tan
20-09-2009, 03:14 AM
Bangkok has a unique system of legalized double parking. When you double park, do not use steering locks, leave your hand brakes off....took me a while to get use to it, but it seems to work...

shthang
20-09-2009, 10:22 AM
Hey M,

A few of us councillors from DAP did discuss that idea about legalising double parking, and was thinking of USJ9 as a test case. Any thoughts?
(moderator: or should this be a new thread altogether?)

Rajiv, good start and welcome to this forum.

appreciate most if you can elaborate more on this double parking idea with pictures if possible. <strike>Agree that this best to be managed with a new thread to invite more focussed discussion.</strike>

(Admin note - this is now in a new thread on parking)

lizzy
20-09-2009, 03:47 PM
In Taipan, I think the cars hogging the parking spaces belong to those who work in the shops nearby. These people should really be parking in the multi-storey carpark since they park their cars there almost the entire day anyway.

These parking spaces should instead be left vacant for customers who go to the shops to buy things..and such people normally do not park for very long hours.

As such, if we could implement something like what I've seen in foreign countries such as limited parking hours for 'hot spots', we should be able to greatly reduce the traffic woos, double parking in Taipan. Maybe offering a low rate monthly parking fee for those who work in the shops could encourage them to park there too..and a little walk in the morning to the mutli-storey carpark could be a good exercise. Light up the multi-storey carpark so it's deemed safer.

Issuing summons is clearly not solving the problem as I've seen many times where right after the officer leave, the cars are back to double park.

As a mother who has my young kids with me all the time, it can be a hassle at time, having to park somewhere far, drag my kids across the roads, just to buy something which could just take me 5 min if I just park (double park) infront of the shop. A few 'hot spots' at each row, where one is only allowed to park for say 30min, or 1 hour or 2 hours should ideally reduce the problem we currently have.

I hope some improvement would happen soon. I have as of now, hardly going to Taipan due to the frustration with the parking problem. As I tell my kids, double parking causes inconvenient to others..so I try not to commit the crime too..

Sentinel
20-09-2009, 04:19 PM
Good idea. People who park longer than 30 minutes should be parking in the multi-storey car parks and these should firstly include the shop owners and those who work there.

One way to motivate this is to charge shopowners much less for parking at the multi-storey carparks. Secondly, to encourage those people to park only a short time, charge higher for the open car parks and much less at the multi-storey carparks.

When the pockets begin to hurt, then everyone will be forced to aprk at the multi-storey car parks.

USJ27Resident
20-09-2009, 05:16 PM
One way to motivate this is to charge shopowners much less for parking at the multi-storey carparks. Secondly, to encourage those people to park only a short time, charge higher for the open car parks and much less at the multi-storey carparks.

When the pockets begin to hurt, then everyone will be forced to aprk at the multi-storey car parks.

but....

in our bolehland.... it became the opposite - the parking operator managed to get the multi-storey as their parking operation changing 1.50 per hour... thus the workers would hog the main street parking lots - which is cheaper mah... :rolleyes:

rajiv
20-09-2009, 05:25 PM
Good idea. People who park longer than 30 minutes should be parking in the multi-storey car parks and these should firstly include the shop owners and those who work there.

One way to motivate this is to charge shopowners much less for parking at the multi-storey carparks. Secondly, to encourage those people to park only a short time, charge higher for the open car parks and much less at the multi-storey carparks.

When the pockets begin to hurt, then everyone will be forced to aprk at the multi-storey car parks.

Haha, this is actually the idea i presented to council a couple of months ago when I first got it... However, there are some legal issues and some other loose ends to tie up, that's why i haven't presented the idea to the public yet... But we're working on it..

jimmyay
20-09-2009, 05:47 PM
Previously, I pay RM105 monthly for the Taipan multi storey carpark. Just drive up and park. Problem solved. I even give discount for my customer when they park there.

Some people double-parked and they 'just forget' about it. I have seen some car blaring their horn & waited more than 30 minutes for some idiot to come and move the car. Some even walk like they don't care attitude. How? Scold them? Report them? Try imagine how frustrating it feel when it happen to you!

We need law to protect innocent people from being bullied. All it need is enforcement. I don't see the need to create supplementary law and try to accommodating to different groups of people.

Naka
20-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Is there say, a Commitee for USJ Parking and who is In-Charge?

It seems to me that a lot of responsibilities is trusted to one man ie Mr Rajiv.

As far as I know ( I stand corrected) Mr Rajiv is only a councillor and with due respect, he can only do that much.

Sorry, if I say the wrong thing---nothing personal.

firefox
20-09-2009, 05:56 PM
As long as there will never be anymore space in this commercial area to cater for more parking, this problem of double parking will continue to exist..sorry i dont forsee any solution in the near future.

jimmyay
20-09-2009, 06:05 PM
As long as there will never be anymore space in this commercial area to cater for more parking, this problem of double parking will continue to exist..sorry i dont forsee any solution in the near future.

Be positive. Focus on 20% of ways that will get 80% of the result.

Sentinel
20-09-2009, 06:06 PM
Is there say, a Commitee for USJ Parking and who is In-Charge?

It seems to me that a lot of responsibilities is trusted to one man ie Mr Rajiv.

As far as I know ( I stand corrected) Mr Rajiv is only a councillor and with due respect, he can only do that much.

Sorry, if I say the wrong thing---nothing personal.Why don't you volunteer to assist him?

firefox
20-09-2009, 06:32 PM
Be positive. Focus on 20% of ways that will get 80% of the result.

Today MU is beating manchester city, i very postive about that. sorry i couldnt resist saying this.

rajiv
20-09-2009, 07:18 PM
Is there say, a Commitee for USJ Parking and who is In-Charge?

It seems to me that a lot of responsibilities is trusted to one man ie Mr Rajiv.

As far as I know ( I stand corrected) Mr Rajiv is only a councillor and with due respect, he can only do that much.

Sorry, if I say the wrong thing---nothing personal.

In MPSJ Council, there is 2 committees which is involved with car park - finance, which determines car park rates/conditions/time limits if any & infrastructure, which decides where to build more car parks, traffic circulation and the likes of that.

Both committees have about 10 councillors, so rest assured that I won't be making any decision single handedly. If you guys would like to form a committee on car park to assist me, I welcome it...

Sentinel
20-09-2009, 09:47 PM
Rajiv, I hope you are logged on to usj.com.my only these two days of Raya break coz I don't see you have much time to do the work if you are here all the time. Why? Because I think soon everyone will be posting their woes and complaints... wakakaka...

Maybe come online 1/2 hour per day at 5.00pm?

rajiv
21-09-2009, 12:19 AM
Rajiv, I hope you are logged on to usj.com.my only these two days of Raya break coz I don't see you have much time to do the work if you are here all the time. Why? Because I think soon everyone will be posting their woes and complaints... wakakaka...

Maybe come online 1/2 hour per day at 5.00pm?


Haha, so you noticed...
dun worry (or worry?)... I'll be here much less after the hols :)

rajiv
21-09-2009, 01:29 AM
Hi everyone,

This is what I'd written sometime back, and we're in the process of seeing if we can make it work. If we can, before we do so, we'll have a meeting with the residents & business community to explain the ideas.
http://rajiv4malaysia.blogspot.com/2009/07/parking-issues.html
Target date of implementation, 1st Jan 2010

*note, we are going for the limit to one hour, not increase in rate.

kuma
21-09-2009, 02:06 AM
Bangkok has a unique system of legalized double parking. When you double park, do not use steering locks, leave your hand brakes off....took me a while to get use to it, but it seems to work...

I have seen something similar being done in Jakarta.....they do it in the parking area in Malls too.

Cars are left double parked and unlocked....should you be blocked, just push the car. But then over there, there's always someone to help for a few rupiah :D

I once asked a friend if they were ever worried if the car will be stolen....he looked puzzled as if such things rarely happened.

kwchang
21-09-2009, 02:26 AM
I agree for short term parking in shop-fronts. Why we never thought about that...

I remember a few years ago at the Shell HQ at Damansara Heights, they have a number of parking bays right in front of the building's lobby. The parking rate is FREE for 15 minutes but right after that it is RM5 per hour. The whole idea is to allow people to hop in and park for a quick errand, maybe send in some documents to the office but need to leave within 15 minutes or less - so no hassle to look for parking. However, right after that grace period, they pay RM5 per hour, no negotiations.

In the case of Taipan, due to the large number of bank branches and food outlets, I suggest a similar setup but with HIGHER penalties. Give everyone free parking for the first 15 minutes and this is regardless whether anyone is waiting in their cars while a passenger runs to the shop for a short errand. Once 15 minutes is up, the parking rate is RM5 per half hour followed by RM10 for the subsequent hours. Anyone wishing to park for longer than 15 minutes should park at the multi-story car-parks at current rates of RM0.50 per hour - ensure that lower levels are reserved for hourly rates while long-term carparks at higher floors.

You will face a number of problems with this implementation -

Need to have reasonable long-term parking rates at multi-story carparks for shop tenants
Need large force of dedicated parking wardens to issue tickets
Need clear signages to inform of parking rates
Heavy penalties for double-parking

CS Chua
21-09-2009, 07:31 AM
Where Taipan is concerned, I believe even putting a full time traffic warden(s)/enforcement officer(s) there is self-paying. If they diligently issue summons there, the revenue generated will be more than sufficient to cover for more than just one officer stationed full time there.
This is one thing I never understand about our Malaysian authorities. All over the world, consistent and regular enforcement are commonly used to solve problems and they are so effective. But in Malaysia, they love spot checks, ad hoc enforcement with many agencies every once in a blue moon and the occasional visits by politicians who moan and moan about public apathy - which incidentally is universal whether in Singapore, Australia or Europe. What keeps these citizens in check and well-behaved in these countries is consistent enforcement. What can't our local authorities do that? They have such high tolerance for these unsocial behavior. Place traffic wardens full time there for a year and see what happens.

Naka
21-09-2009, 08:24 AM
Why don't you volunteer to assist him?

Well, you are more local, you do it.

firefox
21-09-2009, 09:12 AM
I never venture into Taipan area as its not only congested and polluted but also very dirty, especially the eatries. At all means i usually do avoid this area and do my eating and business elsewhere.

jimmyay
21-09-2009, 12:36 PM
This is one thing I never understand about our Malaysian authorities. All over the world, consistent and regular enforcement are commonly used to solve problems and they are so effective. But in Malaysia, they love spot checks, ad hoc enforcement with many agencies every once in a blue moon and the occasional visits by politicians who moan and moan about public apathy - which incidentally is universal whether in Singapore, Australia or Europe. What keeps these citizens in check and well-behaved in these countries is consistent enforcement. What can't our local authorities do that? They have such high tolerance for these unsocial behavior. Place traffic wardens full time there for a year and see what happens.

Totally agreed with your point. Enforcement is all that it need. Not supplementary law one after another.

Sentinel
21-09-2009, 12:46 PM
Well, you are more local, you do it.If I am still staying in USJ, you can bet yr last ringgit I will. I will not just complain. You can bet I will even start community camping at Subang Ria Park.

bslee
21-09-2009, 02:10 PM
Totally agreed with your point. Enforcement is all that it need. Not supplementary law one after another.

FINES and SAMANs ARE neither EDUCATIONAL, DISCIPLINARY nor improve attitudes. Its just blantantly PUNITIVE and I see authorities raking in like some revenue generating authority till kingdom come!, so much so NOTHING much have change and Malaysia still a cowboy country as far as I've seen past donkey years. Dare to tell me I'm wrong? (Errr.... IDIOTIC MALAYSIANS are also to blame for this all!)
My 2 sen!

jimmyay
21-09-2009, 03:03 PM
FINES and SAMANs ARE neither EDUCATIONAL, DISCIPLINARY nor improve attitudes. Its just blantantly PUNITIVE and I see authorities raking in like some revenue generating authority till kingdom come!, so much so NOTHING much have change and Malaysia still a cowboy country as far as I've seen past donkey years. Dare to tell me I'm wrong? (Errr.... IDIOTIC MALAYSIANS are also to blame for this all!)
My 2 sen!

What you stated is true. Currently, law created had become an "jalan" for corruption.
With some magic, police summon that are can be found online can be completely erased. This is better than cowboy town...it's the magic of money.
Without proper enforcement, whatever suggestion or supplementary law WON'T WORK.


Eg, there is a hole. We use Lid-A to cover it. Then we found out that Lid-A is defective. What do you do?
Solution A - Replace it with a better quality Lid-A (will lead to maintenance of only Lid-A in the future)

Solution B - Put a Lid-B on-top of the Lid-A (will lead to maintenance of Lid-A PLUS Lid-B in the future)

firefox
21-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Why you guys banging your head against the wall i have lived in this town for more than 20 years nobody has solved this parking problem, do you think it improve now, its just gets worse by the year, sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too.

Naka
21-09-2009, 03:41 PM
If I am still staying in USJ, you can bet yr last ringgit I will. I will not just complain. You can bet I will even start community camping at Subang Ria Park.

OFF-TROPIC

Community Camping at Subang Ria Park?

Looks like you forgot you were supposed to be an Assistant to Mr Rajiv.

Would your Boss condone your action?

(This is my last reply before we are blamed for hijacking this thread.)

Sentinel
21-09-2009, 05:06 PM
OFF-TROPIC

Community Camping at Subang Ria Park?

Looks like you forgot you were supposed to be an Assistant to Mr Rajiv.

Would your Boss condone your action?

(This is my last reply before we are blamed for hijacking this thread.)Where have you been? It is obvious you do not know what I am referring to and yet you claimed me off-topic? Again, you missed the point, big time.

USJ residents previously camped at the playground between USJ4/6 and USJ4/9 when developer wanted to build 2 condominium blocks on the playground. We camped there and hold placards and banners until the press came and then the Selangor MB came too... I was suggesting this same action for saving Subang Ria and there was a thread on this.

What to do, you miss the point again....

p.s. BTW its off-topic and not off-tropic. Off-tropic will take place in 2 days time ie Sept 23rd when the earth moves / shifts on its axis... its called the solstice actually....

patrick
21-09-2009, 09:59 PM
Haha, theoretically yes, but when the enforcement is spotted, then people suddenly behaving, drying up the opportunity for summons.

I'm working on a plan, will post it up shortly... (and yerp, it would involve more enforcement there)

I beg to disagree. Why? Many drivers double park very blatantly. Further, the warden is not going to stand by the roadside on display. He/she will be walking around the 5foot way and hence not entirely visible. He/she would only make his appearance when issuing the summons.

In any case, try it out!

chookyan
21-09-2009, 10:31 PM
[QUOTE=patrick]I beg to disagree. Why? Many drivers double park very blatantly.

Patrick - you are right on the very blatantly. Once saw a lady being trapped by an idiot who double parked. After 15 minutes the idiot coolly came out from Papa Rich and just drive away without even a sorry, If I was the lady, that guy would be in for a shelling. Mind you most idiots who double park are the BIG CARS and think THEY PAY MORE ROAD TAX.

What about tire shops who 'booked' parking spaces????????
:mad:

expat1609
21-09-2009, 10:45 PM
Bangkok has a unique system of legalized double parking. When you double park, do not use steering locks, leave your hand brakes off....took me a while to get use to it, but it seems to work...

NOT advisable for taipan guys, mostly downhill, don't ask people to leave hand brakes off...in bolehland many will follow good suggestions :rolleyes: :p

orchipalar
22-09-2009, 08:30 AM
Err buddies...any vehicles left...unlocked...n unattended...is NOT insured...

Don't go yelling or crying at the Insurance companies...when the vehicle is stolen...n the insurer won't compensate...

Vehicles left under the "care" of unauthorized "Jockey" parking attendants...IF STOLEN...is NOT insured...
UNLESS the STOLEN vehicle owner produced evidence that the "Jockey" service is authorized...when a claim is initiated to the Insurer.

Orchi can foresee a possible...err..."business" interest with the parking issue being proposed or planned or discussed in here...

Another one of those so called "Privatized" "JOCKEY" parking attendant service system...being taken into consideration...which might become "sanctioned" by MPSJ...?

IF so...Orchi can consider to start the PILOT business module going...in a flash...
to get the ball rolling n possibly work things out with MPSJ...
Heck with rising unemployment(Orchi promises to consider hiring only locals)...
Orchi can possibly deploy as many attendants as required to man the parking lots...
say at Taipan for a start...

Can possibly...kill 3 birds with 1 arrow...make profit from this "business"(for MPSJ n for Orchi too)...create employment opportunities...n solve parking problems...

firefox
22-09-2009, 04:45 PM
This is what the police should do for traffic offences in Taipan and in other commercial places of SJ.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/02rkn/Article/index_html

patrick
22-09-2009, 06:26 PM
This is what the police should do for traffic offences in Taipan and in other commercial places of SJ.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/articles/02rkn/Article/index_html

A BIG YES!! That's the way to go!! No warning, no excuses. Just keep slapping on the summons!!

patrick
22-09-2009, 06:32 PM
Why you guys banging your head against the wall i have lived in this town for more than 20 years nobody has solved this parking problem, do you think it improve now, its just gets worse by the year, sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too.

Aiyoh firefox...please lah dont make such assumptions!! Firstly, IF you mean the "cari makan" like I understand, please dont assume "just like us"! I DONT cari makan ok? In all my life I have NEVER CARI MAKAN, and NEVER WILL. I'd rather die poor in dignity than live rich in shame! Second, it's not fair to make a sweeing statement that all councillors cari makan. My two bits.

patrick
22-09-2009, 06:48 PM
[QUOTE=patrick]I beg to disagree. Why? Many drivers double park very blatantly.

Patrick - you are right on the very blatantly. Once saw a lady being trapped by an idiot who double parked. After 15 minutes the idiot coolly came out from Papa Rich and just drive away without even a sorry, If I was the lady, that guy would be in for a shelling. Mind you most idiots who double park are the BIG CARS and think THEY PAY MORE ROAD TAX.

What about tire shops who 'booked' parking spaces????????
:mad:

I too have seen this happened a number of times. Felt very sympathetic towards the "victims", and just hope it doesnt happen to me. Not sure what I'll do. So far, I have been lucky. When horn a few times, normally they come out. Or my strategy works? I normally do two things:

1. When in Taipan, I dont park too far in. That way, if someone wants to double park behind me, their car would be jutting out onto the road like a sore thumb. So they have to keep a continuous look out for their car.

2. When I horn, I always switch on my headlight and also the blinkers. That way, I make sure the culprit can see that I am the car that's hooting. Otherwise, sometimes it's difficult to relate the hooting to your car and it's difficult for the culprit to note that you want to leave. Sound sometimes travel in a funny way due to the environment and it's difficult to link it to the source.

Hope the tips help you folks when parking in such places.

Rgds.

kwchang
22-09-2009, 11:42 PM
...sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too. Just like Patrick, I will take offense at your sweeping statement and just like Patrick, I don't "cari makan" - I don't care if you are making a confession here but my standards and up-bringing do not allow for me to practice this at all. Furthermore, your statement is belittling all the good councillors, ADUNs, MPs and other public servants who share the same clean service principle.

Unless you apologise in this Forum, I shall let you keep the banana for life...

If you think this is trivial, please note that anyone getting a 2nd banana while holding one in hand (ie 2 bananas at one time) will be fried (pisang goreng) - ie banned form the Forum ... so you got to be very careful with what you post while carrying a banana

CS Chua
23-09-2009, 12:09 AM
I wonder if traffic enforcement can be privatized? If yes, perhaps, the various Residents Associations can jointly form a company to take up the job. Payment can be in the form of commission (50% of the fines?) or per ticket issued. This privatized company can also employ traffic wardens to control traffic in SJ/USJ. Of course, MPSJ have to pay for these services. So, if the residents take a direct interest and involvement, it will not only create jobs, it will create a more pleasant environment for us to live in. Doable?

rajiv
23-09-2009, 02:39 PM
I wonder if traffic enforcement can be privatized? If yes, perhaps, the various Residents Associations can jointly form a company to take up the job. Payment can be in the form of commission (50% of the fines?) or per ticket issued. This privatized company can also employ traffic wardens to control traffic in SJ/USJ. Of course, MPSJ have to pay for these services. So, if the residents take a direct interest and involvement, it will not only create jobs, it will create a more pleasant environment for us to live in. Doable?

No... I don't think privatisation of enforcement will happen...
If/Once we go ahead with the hourly parking, enforcement will be done much much more....

firefox
23-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Aiyoh firefox...please lah dont make such assumptions!! Firstly, IF you mean the "cari makan" like I understand, please dont assume "just like us"! I DONT cari makan ok? In all my life I have NEVER CARI MAKAN, and NEVER WILL. I'd rather die poor in dignity than live rich in shame! Second, it's not fair to make a sweeing statement that all councillors cari makan. My two bits.

I say whats all this, "cari makan" i thot the english interpretation is, to go out and earn a decent living. This was what a meant. What was your assumption on this, i would like to know?
Banning me for life just over this? i find no problem in it.

bslee
23-09-2009, 02:54 PM
I say whats all this, "cari makan" i thot the english interpretation is, to go out and earn a decent living. This was what a meant. What was your assumption on this, i would like to know?
Banning me for life just over this? i find no problem in it.

Ok ok lah.. you're excused...if thats precisely what you meant...
Me oso CARI MAKAN every other day... for excellent, value for money food...as always. Just came back from Temerloh.. sigh...my favourite Nasi Lemak still CLOSED yesterday.

tupai
23-09-2009, 03:34 PM
No... I don't think privatisation of enforcement will happen...
If/Once we go ahead with the hourly parking, enforcement will be done much much more....


Totally disagree that it cannot happen/work.

If the authority concerned has the political will and the resident/citizen interest, it can work.

You-think-u-know-all-fellas in the local council or the state or fed gomen should only open your blinkered eyes. Instead of just having gala time, Learn something from all those 'melawat sambil belajar' trips here & there. DUH!

If spore can even privatise their aux police force, what is so difficult in managing/handling/enforcing traffic laws in itsy bitsy subang jaya?

heck! Open up the proposal, put it into an Open tender OR better yet, Give me a minimum 10yr contract and I can run it grease smooth, corruption free, without fear or favour, transparent, cost-plus model with 100% all malaysian staffing! AND get this! I can make it a profitable bizz and will share with mpsj! OR Putting money where my mouth is, I can even pay a minimum guarantee every month, regardless of the fines that i can collect.

This is NOT a rocket science or neuro-surgery operation. A tight implementation of SOP and strict enforcement of KPIs will make it a success.

Ada brani?


Yang Boleh implement latotupai

orchipalar
23-09-2009, 04:27 PM
Err buddies...any vehicles left...unlocked...n unattended...is NOT insured...

Don't go yelling or crying at the Insurance companies...when the vehicle is stolen...n the insurer won't compensate...

Vehicles left under the "care" of unauthorized "Jockey" parking attendants...IF STOLEN...is NOT insured...
UNLESS the STOLEN vehicle owner produced evidence that the "Jockey" service is authorized...when a claim is initiated to the Insurer.

Orchi can foresee a possible...err..."business" interest with the parking issue being proposed or planned or discussed in here...

Another one of those so called "Privatized" "JOCKEY" parking attendant service system...being taken into consideration...which might become "sanctioned" by MPSJ...?

IF so...Orchi can consider to start the PILOT business module going...in a flash...
to get the ball rolling n possibly work things out with MPSJ...
Heck with rising unemployment(Orchi promises to consider hiring only locals)...
Orchi can possibly deploy as many attendants as required to man the parking lots...
say at Taipan for a start...

Can possibly...kill 3 birds with 1 arrow...make profit from this "business"(for MPSJ n for Orchi too)...create employment opportunities...n solve parking problems...
Totally disagree that it cannot happen/work.

If the authority concerned has the political will and the resident/citizen interest, it can work.

You-think-u-know-all-fellas in the local council or the state or fed gomen should only open your blinkered eyes. Instead of just having gala time, Learn something from all those 'melawat sambil belajar' trips here & there. DUH!

If spore can even privatise their aux police force, what is so difficult in managing/handling/enforcing traffic laws in itsy bitsy subang jaya?

heck! Open up the proposal, put it into an Open tender OR better yet, Give me a minimum 10yr contract and I can run it grease smooth, corruption free, without fear or favour, transparent, cost-plus model with 100% all malaysian staffing! AND get this! I can make it a profitable bizz and will share with mpsj! OR Putting money where my mouth is, I can even pay a minimum guarantee every month, regardless of the fines that i can collect.

This is NOT a rocket science or neuro-surgery operation. A tight implementation of SOP and strict enforcement of KPIs will make it a success.

Ada brani? Yang Boleh implement latotupai[/I]Err buddy Tupai...Orchi prays you are not trying to wrestle the business module away from Orchi...

Ok...how about a partnership...together we can kill 3 birds or heck...even 4 birds with one arrow...

tupai
23-09-2009, 04:35 PM
Err buddy Tupai...Orchi prays you are not trying to wrestle the business module away from Orchi...

Ok...how about a partnership...together we can kill 3 birds or heck...even 4 birds with one arrow...

Oops! sorry buddy. I didnt mean to potong jalan lah.

U have the first bite...and I shall depend on your generousity to share this venture with me Or plis plis engage me as your CONsultant :p

Seriously, an outsource model can work IF they want it to work. We shall also invest with our money, to hook up with JPJ & PDRm and have the non-summon paying idiots NOT being able to renew their road tax! That will bring some discipline to the bunch of selfish parkers and road users!

If the law hit my pocket rm500 each time for a traffic offence, I will wise up in a jiffy and be the role model-driver-roaduser, that even United Nation wanna employ! :D

Yang Bersalah trafik latotupai :p

orchipalar
23-09-2009, 04:51 PM
Oops! sorry buddy. I didnt mean to potong jalan lah.

U have the first bite...and I shall depend on your generousity to share this venture with me Or plis plis engage me as your CONsultant :p

Seriously, an outsource model can work IF they want it to work. We shall also invest with our money, to hook up with JPJ & PDRm and have the non-summon paying idiots NOT being able to renew their road tax! That will bring some discipline to the bunch of selfish parkers and road users!

If the law hit my pocket rm500 each time for a traffic offence, I will wise up in a jiffy and be the role model-driver-roaduser, that even United Nation wanna employ! :D

Yang Bersalah trafik latotupai :pErr buddy Tupai...sure thing...Orchi shall rope you in on it...whenever you so desire...

In no time once the "Privatized Jockey Parking Attendant System" runs its course...
Orchi can visualize BOTH of us riding up to the land of sunshine n a thousand smiles...together lah... ;)

So can Orchi count on Buddy Rajiv...to pull the strings or muscles together to see this PILOT project...through?

Mind you...Orchi is NOT jiving on any fly-by-night or backyard operations here...
RM250,000 from Orchi n RM250,000 from buddy Tupai...in CASH on start up for this PILOT Project business venture...
Buddy KH Ee(qualified n accredited thus hereby appointed) can start doing up the company secretarial n accounting paperworks etc.

ZERO Political influence or participation...100% productivity n profitability...guaranteed in writing...

Heck...once this PILOT Project is in place...when MPSJ or anyone just whistle...
Orchi can immediately round up min. 200+ vehicles each day...
that would habitually doublepark...at SS15 n Taipan for instance...
n whisk them all away...in no time...

Heck...Orchi could even summon upto 20 tow trucks(super efficient n polite buggers)...
to be stationed at these busy spots round the clock...daily...
to compliment this business module...in no time.

Lets do it for 3 months...n IF the traffic congestion in these hot spots does not improve...
anyone can spell...err "ihcro"...backwards.

NOT too long ago...MPSJ awarded a so called "Con-session"...BIG TIME...
for 20 year contract...or something like that...to certain PEST Con-troll Con-tractor...

Look around you...there are still growing numbers of cockroaches n...RATS!!! at eateries in MPSJ territory...

n the populations of nos. of Aides mosquitoes are still...revitalizing...!!!

Sentinel
23-09-2009, 06:13 PM
You guys need venture capitalist? :D

CS Chua
24-09-2009, 01:46 AM
What we need to do now is to submit a business proposal to MPSJ - to take over the enforcement of all traffic regulations. MPSJ can hold 30% shares so they will profit from it too. It is a win-win situation for everyone. Let the private sector shows those guys how to run and enforce laws. It is apparent that they know nothing about it or are not concerned about their social responsibilities. Take your pick. They only talk, talk, talk but no action. And for the foreseeable future, nothing is going to change.

AllUrban
25-09-2009, 11:19 AM
A BIG YES!! That's the way to go!! No warning, no excuses. Just keep slapping on the summons!!I still like my forklift idea :p Cars blocking the roads? Pick them up and move them out and let people watch :p

Cheers, m

besitai2007
25-09-2009, 01:13 PM
Lizzy,
For your information and being a frequent visitor to the Tai Pan area, the parking problem is not due to lack of parking space. If you observe the multi-storey parking facility in the middle of Taipan - it is hardly used. People in Malaysia would prefer to park for free if they can and also double park for their convenience and the chagrin of others. It's the lack of civic consciousness and lack of concern for our fellow citizens that is the root of all our problems. Just came back from Adelaide and saw how different the Aussies are from us.

patrick
25-09-2009, 01:38 PM
I still like my forklift idea :p Cars blocking the roads? Pick them up and move them out and let people watch :p

Cheers, m

Why not? Just do it!! Even if it's just to frighten these inconsiderate drivers!

firefox
28-09-2009, 03:15 PM
I say whats all this, "cari makan" i thot the english interpretation is, to go out and earn a decent living. This was what a meant. What was your assumption on this, i would like to know?
Banning me for life just over this? i find no problem in it.

Hello Patrick,

How about a reply, i am still waiting.

patrick
28-09-2009, 03:40 PM
I say whats all this, "cari makan" i thot the english interpretation is, to go out and earn a decent living. This was what a meant. What was your assumption on this, i would like to know?
Banning me for life just over this? i find no problem in it.

As I understood, your statement "Why you guys banging your head against the wall i have lived in this town for more than 20 years nobody has solved this parking problem, do you think it improve now, its just gets worse by the year, sorry to say councillors are just like us, cari makan too" clearly refers to more than earn a decent living. I am sorry if I misunderstood your statement, but I merely read as you wrote quoted above. How else can councillors cari makan viz-a-viz parking problems? Did I comprehend wrongly? I thought Chang read the same in his posting #43.

Second, why are you directing the Banning Question at me??? Did you not read Chang's posting #43 ?

Rgds.