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Richard Poh
11-09-2009, 12:04 PM
Me difinetey a Jap.sport car.

cml
11-09-2009, 12:20 PM
It is not just a matter of car taxes. It is how the whole country has been run or is being run. There is a lot of wastage and seepages/leakages filling the pockets of the select few. If you look at our neighbours down south then you can see the type of cars that we could drive if our whole country has been run efficiently and properly. Without any resources, they can do so well. With our resources we could be another switzerland. Mercedes could be our taxis and golf our economy cars.

bslee
11-09-2009, 12:41 PM
A car will still be expensive in Malaysia even without tax. Tell me you're going to get a MyVi for RM8k?... IT'LL NEVER EVER HAPPEN HERE! gahmen revenue is NOT going to be reduced this way. Let NOT kid ourselves with fiction or fantasy. They can't even reduce tax for bikes nor abolish road tax for that matter. We ALL FOOLS to allow and vote for them past or present.
Goods in Singapore have been cheaper in the early days compared to here, of course because of currency values, they're more expensive now...but cheaper from the start..and they managed it, we couldn't. Bleed the rakyat all the way, that was the whole idea.

tupai
11-09-2009, 01:14 PM
It is not just a matter of car taxes. It is how the whole country has been run or is being run. There is a lot of wastage and seepages/leakages filling the pockets of the select few. If you look at our neighbours down south then you can see the type of cars that we could drive if our whole country has been run efficiently and properly. Without any resources, they can do so well. With our resources we could be another switzerland. Mercedes could be our taxis and golf our economy cars.

err...u mean natural resources ah? switz where got resources lah? they got people with boundless 1stworld mental resources only leh...

U mean with our resources (natural & people esp.'leaders') we could be ...hmmmm...hmmmm...dunno lah...status quo?

I dont mind status quo...less competition from other citizens... Also ah, i got boundless resources in my garden plot. :p

Yang Berkembang dgn resources latotupai

p/s a I'd be driving a Humvee, Super Deluxe series with a hydraulic lift at the rear for my motorbikes...YES! :D

AllUrban
11-09-2009, 01:26 PM
The new Mercedes Benz C350 Blue bybrid with Li-Ion batteries! YES!

Or even better - a Mercedez Benz CapaCITY articulated bus ... with my own driver! (save my money, take the bus and rent the Benz!)

Cheers, m

ps.. our old minibuses are Daimler-Benz and so are the new strangely shaped RapidKL long-haul buses....love that 3-pointed star!

kwchang
11-09-2009, 01:41 PM
Why is it always an invitation for political-bashing whenever some thread hits on a topic like this?

It is not just a matter of car taxes. It is how the whole country has been run or is being run. There is a lot of wastage and seepages/leakages filling the pockets of the select few....

We ALL FOOLS to allow and vote for them past or present.... Bleed the rakyat all the way My first reaction to this is to close the thread ... but it will deprive of others who wish to contribute without the same "toothache whining" like cml and bslee had done right here.

I will do the banana instead ... because all this whining not only disturbs the peace, but threaten to derail the topic and to hijack threads for their own political opinions when in reality the thread is not necessarily political in the first place!

Raikonen
11-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Ferrari 360 Modena.... :D

chewie
11-09-2009, 02:06 PM
Hummer 1........

hezron
11-09-2009, 02:08 PM
still the current Toyota Altis, but the saving can go else way for investment... :D

bslee
11-09-2009, 02:10 PM
still the current Toyota Altis, but the saving can go else way for investment... :D

Factually, when Malaysians buy any new car at current prices, its a huge dent to your future savings...period, which is why many rakyat are not with much cash flow. I think I could easy guess a Malaysian could likely spend RM200k or more on cars in one's lifetime. RM200k is A LOT OF MONEY AND very beneficial for your golden years. Hey, I'm disregarding people who're really wealthy or driving company owned cars ya! LOOK LAH...we're ALL made blardi FOOLS especially paying so much in various taxes in car ownership, not just the price of the car itself. I think I read somewhere the gahmen collects a few BILLION in taxes (annually) for CBU cars. From fuel, services, parts, anything you think of. BLARDI FOOLS we all are!

BMW9700
11-09-2009, 02:18 PM
1) Audi R8
2) BMW M3 saloon
3) Audi Q7

that will do for the next 5 years..

regards

gtl
11-09-2009, 02:19 PM
wud love to drive a maserati?

jan tomaswaki
11-09-2009, 02:23 PM
malaysians are crazy about cars.Malaysia is pushing 2020 where we must support local industries like Proton (although QC still not very good but improving) so that alot of SMEs will increase.Toyota has 5000 childparts in their car,so look at the suppliers and the domino effect.Imagine cars with no tax or import cars are cheap like Camry (RM95K) in Thailand do you think Malaysian can afford it?.In Japan (if not mistaken) cars more than 2 yrs old will have to pay extra tax and every yr will increase,can m"sians afford it?The ex factory price of Protan Iswara is about RM16K

Raikonen
11-09-2009, 02:34 PM
malaysians are crazy about cars.Malaysia is pushing 2020 where we must support local industries like Proton (although QC still not very good but improving) so that alot of SMEs will increase.Toyota has 5000 childparts in their car,so look at the suppliers and the domino effect.Imagine cars with no tax or import cars are cheap like Camry (RM95K) in Thailand do you think Malaysian can afford it?.In Japan (if not mistaken) cars more than 2 yrs old will have to pay extra tax and every yr will increase,can m"sians afford it?The ex factory price of Protan Iswara is about RM16K

PROTONS?!!! wahaha...no one in their right mind will buy them if not for the tax :D

firefox
11-09-2009, 05:10 PM
Even with the high tax the wealthy towkays and many others are driving around with exhorbitant flashy cars so what high tax are we talking about?

jaysubra
11-09-2009, 05:10 PM
I would have my Honda Accord @ RM 50,000++ less (than the current RM141,800), decent family car for the price of the current Nissan Latio....the remaining installment money would have been good to invest in Mutual fund / other tools for retirement...alas it is just a dream.

Anyone has any idea of the status of 'New Automotive Policy' which should have been reviewed in September?

It is September now and I have not heard anything about this review.

Jey
11-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Once you have the Accord will you NGV it also? :D

jaysubra
11-09-2009, 05:58 PM
Even with the high tax the wealthy towkays and many others are driving around with exhorbitant flashy cars so what high tax are we talking about?

Firefox, some of us are forced to buy a good Japanese Car and pay through our nose simply because we want to have a safe car to travel with family.

Those of us who travel a lot on work / business also decide to upgrade to comfortable cars and most of them are not Proton / Perodua unless Proton brings the Waja or Perdana replacement (Mitsubishi badge engineering) cars fast.

Jey,

Have moved from Waja to Nissan sometime back so am off NGV at the moment, but I still have an NGV Iswara for Jalan - jalan.

AllUrban
11-09-2009, 06:08 PM
Even with the high tax the wealthy towkays and many others are driving around with exhorbitant flashy cars so what high tax are we talking about?The high tax that makes a small european car cost the same in Malaysia as a low-cost house.

Cheers, m

ps. the towkays may be financing the car and listing it as a company property or doing a large number of tricks to enable them to drive these cars. Who knows how much collateral is required to get a loan to purchase a RM300,000-700,000 car.......

But I always think of what my daddy said:

"If you cannot buy it with cash then you do not really own it." :cool:

AllUrban
11-09-2009, 06:09 PM
I would have my Honda Accord @ RM 50,000++ less (than the current RM141,800), decent family car for the price of the current Nissan Latio....the remaining installment money would have been good to invest in Mutual fund / other tools for retirement...alas it is just a dream.

Anyone has any idea of the status of 'New Automotive Policy' which should have been reviewed in September?

It is September now and I have not heard anything about this review.I believe that part of the plan is to liberalize (increase the number available, increase competition & reduce costs) and eventually phase out APs.

Cheers, m

Richard Poh
12-09-2009, 09:42 AM
Why is it always an invitation for political-bashing whenever some thread hits on a topic like this?

My first reaction to this is to close the thread ... but it will deprive of others who wish to contribute without the same "toothache whining" like cml and bslee had done right here.

I will do the banana instead ... because all this whining not only disturbs the peace, but threaten to derail the topic and to hijack threads for their own political opinions when in reality the thread is not necessarily political in the first place!
I hope we are the last generation that still bear the nightmare of been 'too frightened ' to be vocal which in fact will be inevitable soon. Surely ,some will
say things like "be sensitive " , "respect others " ..or similar . But the question is : Are you sure ? talking about race relation is sensitive . Belum cuba belum tahu . maybe it is a good thing and even nurse our 'divided' society into good health . ! After 20 years plus of been under the fearcooker .It is only normal to react with speed to sent some one to some plantation as in this forum or even others.

Still hopping to owining that beauty NISSAN FAIRLADY without paying through my throat ! not that i cant afford but felt 'robbed' that's all !

bugbear
12-09-2009, 09:52 AM
I would be driving a Camry 2.4 for sure. But alas, it is a pipe dream. I will make sure BN dies next GE.

kwchang
12-09-2009, 11:38 AM
I hope we are the last generation that still bear the nightmare of been 'too frightened ' to be vocal...
I think you got me wrong this time. There is nothing to fear if comments are substantiated and backed by facts. However, it is tiring to read the constant whining and groaning on the Forum. I thought this is the 2nd home for most of us, a get away, a place to be with friends and neighbours and a place to share.

Some of you refuse to read the Govt-linked newspapers for obvious reasons. Some refuse to read the papers for the gloom and rhetoric that is published. Think a bit off tangent and I see the same scenario in the whinings ... I am sure some people get turned off by all these bashing, repeating on what was said and what is already common knowledge.

My job is to get these out of the way...

My thanks to Tupai for bringing on the videos, you are the Man

Sentinel
12-09-2009, 09:43 PM
Lexus Cygnos 4.7 V8, that would be my choice.

chanelt
12-09-2009, 10:22 PM
Bleed the rakyat all the way, that was the whole idea.

We keep bleeding, keep keep bleeding love.. :D

Ditto
13-09-2009, 02:19 AM
Will keep on changing my car every 3 years...in fact, every msian has been deprived of the life time opportunity of owning a decent car since the existence of Proton sag

bslee
13-09-2009, 03:02 AM
every msian has been deprived of the life time opportunity of owning a decent car since the existence of Proton sag

One of the all time great foresights!

USJ27Resident
13-09-2009, 04:05 AM
Anyone has any idea of the status of 'New Automotive Policy' which should have been reviewed in September?

It is September now and I have not heard anything about this review.

September 2013... after the GE13... :p when Proton officially dumps all 13 models and starts assembling cars for other makes...

* 1.1 Proton Saga
* 1.2 Proton Wira
* 1.3 Proton Satria
* 1.4 Proton Putra
* 1.5 Proton Perdana
* 1.6 Proton Tiara
* 1.7 Proton Juara
* 1.8 Proton Waja
* 1.9 Proton Arena
* 1.10 Proton Gen-2
* 1.11 Proton Savvy
* 1.12 Proton Persona
* 1.13 Proton Exora

Coincidence??? :D

bslee
13-09-2009, 04:20 AM
September 2013... after the GE13... :p when Proton officially dumps all 13 models and starts assembling cars for other makes...


Hmmmm, it never cross my mind to own one..Its everytime I fail to see a good reason.
Hey, I thought of an excellent idea..evelybody don't buy new car for next 3-4 years. Surely your current car can last another few years mah.. Can?

HTCHONG
13-09-2009, 09:33 AM
BMW X5... :D

fRaNkY
13-09-2009, 11:01 AM
if no tax and got money.... hummer... :D

bslee
13-09-2009, 11:50 AM
Heh... compact car will do just fine with me for numerous reasons and BEING STINGY is NOT one of the reasons. I had hoped our Klang Valley public transport is super world class like 10 years ago so I can galavant around city without fear of my car being stolen, broken into, scratched, vandalized.
Car ownership have its own set of dire perils you know..

USJ27Resident
13-09-2009, 11:24 PM
..evelybody don't buy new car for next 3-4 years. Surely your current car can last another few years mah.. Can?

... and every car salesman in the country will either go jobless or switch jobs or worst, start burning cars at night... :p

bslee
13-09-2009, 11:59 PM
... and every car salesman in the country will either go jobless or switch jobs or worst, start burning cars at night... :p

Nope, salesmen can sell anything else or another job meanwhile. Otherwise what can the rakyat do to hope and effect changes? Otherwise we can all whine till the cows come home and nothings done to drastically reduce the price of cars or open up the market. This country need brute and cruel strategies to alter many issues you know, otherwise NOTHING much going to happen.

CS Chua
14-09-2009, 04:33 AM
Alfa Romeo !!

My other gripe is the high tax on spare parts. Someone once told me that if we buy spare parts at the current price to assemble a car, it will costs 10 times more than a new car!! Some of the parts are ridiculously priced!!

firefox
14-09-2009, 07:47 AM
Manufactures and distributors make too much money out of the poor quality cars of malaysia..a kiss on the rear of any car the whole bumper fall off, just see the mangled cars on the side of the roads. What's the use of paying less tax when our cars are notoriously fragile where lives are easily lost

HTCHONG
14-09-2009, 09:24 AM
......Someone once told me that if we buy spare parts at the current price to assemble a car, it will costs 10 times more than a new car!! Some of the parts are ridiculously priced!!

This is how the manufacturer can squeeze money out from your pocket. Look at the price of a printer versus the price of refill….a few original refills can buy a brand new printer. :rolleyes:

bslee
14-09-2009, 09:46 AM
This is how the manufacturer can squeeze money out from your pocket. Look at the price of a printer versus the price of refill….a few original refills can buy a brand new printer. :rolleyes:

Very high price of spare parts have ALWAYS been like that as long as decades ago. Nothing have changed since then. You have no choice but to acquire them at a discounted price at other spare parts shops (speaking about ori parts), nothing more.
We live in Malaysia, with more expensive goods, car ownership country.. live with it!.

HTCHONG
14-09-2009, 10:03 AM
....We live in Malaysia, with more expensive goods, car ownership country.. live with it!.

Yes, I agree with you. The cost of living in Malaysia is getting higher. My recent trip back to Malaysia, I was with my mum at Giant USJ 1. Without considering the conversion, frankly speaking the price of goods in Malaysia is a lot more expensive than Singapore. :(

Let’s take the prices of cars for example, A BMW X5 costs about S$300K but I was told in Malaysia the price of an X5 is about RM700K!! Well, if you convert the selling price, yes it makes up to be about the same. However, if you take into consideration of personal income versus the purchase, I will say Singaporean has higher purchase power. Well, this is the policy for the government to protect the car industry.

jaysubra
14-09-2009, 10:08 AM
Guy's,

a good read:

http://m.themalaysianinsider.com/articles_headlines.php?id=malaysia/37616-vroom-missing-in-car-push

the part I like:

For example, although APs are scheduled to be phased out by the end of next year, one can expect AP holders — perceived to be mainly the politically connected — to fight to retain the rights to such a lucrative source of income.