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lly
10-09-2009, 02:34 PM
Where can I get an old (70's) branded (Omega) watch valued? I have no idea on the price. It's in excellent working condition. Any forumers who are collectors and can advise?

cetan
10-09-2009, 03:32 PM
You just want to know the price?
Or you want to sell the watch.

lly
10-09-2009, 04:24 PM
It's to know the price. May be tempted to sell if price is good! :D

simon_tan
11-09-2009, 05:20 AM
There are several 1970's Omega watches listed on Ebay
http://jewelry.shop.ebay.com/Watches-/14324/i.html?_nkw=omega&_catref=1&_dmpt=Wristwatches&_fln=1&_ssov=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282&Age=1970%252D1999

you might want to just review the list to see if the model you have is listed for a comparison...

lady-o-leisure
11-09-2009, 06:09 AM
There is a watch dealer/repairman in Summit at the 2nd floor, lot S2118.
Highly recommended by Orchipalar as well (coz i've sent my watches to him for refurbishing and so on since Orchi introduced) and he deals in branded 2nd hand watches as well. Problem is, he isnt always at the shop. At the moment i don't know which day he is off. Try calling 03-80236422 for their work hours. Good luck!

bslee
11-09-2009, 10:15 AM
There is a watch dealer/repairman in Summit at the 2nd floor, lot S2118.


Ah!... used dealers, they're always shrewd at this, their evaluation can likely be on the low or very low side, perhaps and hopeful intent they acquire it from you at steal price, then sell it for high profit. Nothing else new in the business world. Just like used cars, same thing lah. Rolex is one make that holds high value and retail prices continue to appreciate annually by some percentage to the point of absurdity.

jan tomaswaki
11-09-2009, 02:03 PM
Where can I get an old (70's) branded (Omega) watch valued? I have no idea on the price. It's in excellent working condition. Any forumers who are collectors and can advise?
i ALSO HAVE A 1986 SWATCH model name JELLYFISH ( all transparent-see thru) last few years at Christie's New York sold at USD6450,any takers??

bslee
11-09-2009, 02:08 PM
i ALSO HAVE A 1986 SWATCH model name JELLYFISH ( all transparent-see thru) last few years at Christie's New York sold at USD6450,any takers??

Ooo.. for that kind of money I reckon one is able to buy a Rolex or a few Omega Speedmaster watches. Rolex is one watch if well looked after, periodically serviced, could last nearly forever.

rakyat
11-09-2009, 03:24 PM
Ooo.. for that kind of money I reckon one is able to buy a Rolex or a few Omega Speedmaster watches. Rolex is one watch if well looked after, periodically serviced, could last nearly forever.

Can last looong time but the price of each 'periodical service' can buy a few SWATCH or SEIKO watches oredi :D

lly
11-09-2009, 04:40 PM
Thanks for all leads. If the dealers are not reliable to give an actual market price (is there one?), then who can we rely on? I have a silly question - does the price go up with the years? Would an old watch cost more or less than a new one?

bslee
11-09-2009, 09:03 PM
Thanks for all leads. If the dealers are not reliable to give an actual market price (is there one?), then who can we rely on? I have a silly question - does the price go up with the years? Would an old watch cost more or less than a new one?

As a matter of fact, nearly all the people I know (those who had great watches) never sold any of them, lifetime use...including me, my Tudor now over 25 years, appreciated but 7X I think. If I'm not mistaken Rolex appreciates say 5 to 10% annually, for some unknown reason. I remember a model of Rolex lady's watch (mid priced one) in year 2000 was RM7.5k nett, now Rm10-11k at some authorized dealers.. How?


Can last looong time but the price of each 'periodical service' can buy a few SWATCH or SEIKO watches oredi :D
Did you know the jewel crystal (the crystal face lah) is lifetime warranty? and will be replaced FOC if found scratched, defect, serverely worn?. Service in perhaps a 5-7 years once lah.. Few hundred bucks for quality and microsopic work, not the kaki lima watch repairer lah. Just like owning a Bimmer or Merc, expect workmanship for peanuts by Ah Chong n Ah Kow mechanics...please lah!

Sentinel
12-09-2009, 09:59 PM
If anyone have a Rolex 100 years anniversary watch, the stainless steel and gold one with the green basel, PM me. Or the Cartier Santos 100 100-year anniversary edition....

lady-o-leisure
13-09-2009, 12:45 AM
Thanks for all leads. If the dealers are not reliable to give an actual market price (is there one?), then who can we rely on? I have a silly question - does the price go up with the years? Would an old watch cost more or less than a new one?

If all u need is a rough estimate of what your watch is worth, then just go ahead to any dealer to get a quote. Then it is entirely up to you to sell it to whoever u want, at whatever price u want, thru any medium u want.
There is no real need to go thru the same dealer who gave u a quote. Just like selling a used car or bike, you may not want to sell it to a dealer, you may want to sell it on mudah.com or to any friend's friend at a price u both agree on.

Watches and everything 2nd hand, doesn't have any fixed price on it. Depending on the type of watch, the condition and how badly a buyer wants it, plus the current economic situation you may or may not lose out much.

Yes, certain brands do appreciate in price over the years, but also comes down to what condition it is in. Also, some watches are known to be 'modified' with accessories that are readily available in the market like rolex bezels can be changed from stainless steel to gold to even a diamond one or even diamond & ruby one. So it is all a flexible situation, do what u are comfortable with.
Dang! Now i just remembered i gave away an old Cartier but cant remember to whom. Dang dang dang!

Anyway, if u are in USJ area and u just need a rough quote on your watch, do try out the guy in Summit. Then if u are not happy.. go get a 2nd quote. Just like seeing a doctor, if u dont believe one.. get a 2nd opinion. No need to be hasty in any decision. Take your time and do some research on it. And Good luck!!

As for me, i trust Focus Time in Summit for all my watches as he tells me as it is. I had an old Rolex refurbished for my son and it looks and works great now. I had my Rolex checked out by him too, and most recently a Georg Jensen one too. Our dear Orchipalar deals with him a lot as well. Focus Time has an excellent collection of watches at the shop, old and new. Goodness.. now i just remembered i hv a German cuckoo clock still there waiting for parts. siiighhh....

USJ27Resident
13-09-2009, 12:55 AM
There is a watch dealer/repairman in Summit at the 2nd floor, lot S2118.
Highly recommended by Orchipalar....

I can vouch for this guy too...

My Omega Seamaster was giving problems and had sent it to one watch shop at the ground floor - paid good money to replace the battery but after a short while, realised that the watch was acting up again! So went back to the shop when I bumped into Orchi... and he recmded the friend upstairs...

That guy talks straight... opened up the Omega and showed me, the wrong battery was used and other stuffs... after he serviced that watch, it is ticking happily and accurately like before....

Oh by the way, if you buy an expensive watch - just be aware that service (and parts) can be equally expensive - like what bslee said - you can't send a Beemer/Merc to be stuffed with Proton parts... no? :p

bslee
13-09-2009, 01:08 AM
Ok..I reveal what I spent the last time, but its years ago. Replaced quite a few external parts, polishing, crystal glass (FOC), full service to my Tudor Rolex chrono for RM600/- at Rolex center. I think they had to send it to S'pore to be done up. Prior to service, it was quite worn, not very accurate, and beat up due to lack of care. It came back near prestine and perfect.
Now only wear it on occasion as I think my arm could seem much cheaper than the watch. Current watch? a RM40 Casio watch from Mydin.
One more thing, they do seem to have records of any Rolex watch history, possibly owner registration and where the purchase originated from.

Ditto
13-09-2009, 02:15 AM
Good watches can be an expensive item to maintain. The servicing charges are propotional higher than most other items. It is especially so for those chronograph models, I had my speedmaster fully serviced by the authorised dealer for RM1200 not long ago, the watch's indicative price now is only RM9800 before discount.....u go figure

bslee
13-09-2009, 04:17 AM
I had my speedmaster fully serviced by the authorised dealer for RM1200 not long ago, the watch's indicative price now is only RM9800 before discount.....u go figure

Errr.. its of course anyone owning these watches should have it serviced at the authorized SC and be rest assured..say at least once within a decade or so?.
I think whatever the price paid for the service should be reasonable and justified. I have those 2 makes and I wouldn't think of sending it to some 3rd party SC, no way.

orchipalar
13-09-2009, 10:27 AM
As a matter of fact, nearly all the people I know (those who had great watches) never sold any of them, lifetime use...including me, my Tudor now over 25 years, appreciated but 7X I think. If I'm not mistaken Rolex appreciates say 5 to 10% annually,

Did you know the jewel crystal (the crystal face lah) is lifetime warranty?Err buddy BSLee...more than 25 yo?...
You could be having one of the Tudor Chrono-Time 79xxx models of the 80s...or the 94xx(70s) or 94xxx in the early 80s...

OR the Tudor Chronograph 74xx or 74xxx models in 70s or early 80s...

They all had PLASTIC(Acrylic) Crystal...NOT Sapphire Crystal(scratch resistance)...

However...IF you have one of the modern "Pre-Tiger Woods" Auto Chrono-Time 79xxx models...introduced in the 90s...
then it should have the Sapphire Crystal...

LIKEWISE with the Plastic Crystal...when broken or scratched...
the Sapphire Crystal is NEVER replaceable at RSC(Rolex Service Centre)...
for FOC...NEVER a lifetime warranty on watch's crystal...

Oh btw...IF more than 25 years or so ago...in the early 80s...
possibly in the same AD(authorised Dealer) store...
where you had chosen to buy the Tudor Chrono-Time watch...
you could have chosen INSTEAD to buy anyone of the Stainless Steel model(SS)...
Rolex Ref 626x(6263/6264/6265 etc)...Cosmograph/Daytona models...
for few thousand RM...

These days a used SS Rolex Ref 626x...in good conditions+provenance...
can fetch betweeen...USD25 to 50K...depending on its particular model Ref.

Or IF you had chosen to buy the Rolex Ref 1655 Explorer II in the 70s...or the Ref 16550..."Explorer II with certain WHITE Dial" in the late 80s...you could exchange it in CASH for USD 10K or more...

Or...the particular in the year 1989 to be precise...
IF you had bought the EARLIEST Ref 16520 Rolex Daytona with Zenith movement...with a specific WHITE Dial...
Today that watch alone in USED conditions could get you...
upto USD20K n more...

Orchi kids you not...

orchipalar
13-09-2009, 10:56 AM
Errr.. its of course anyone owning these watches should have it serviced at the authorized SC and be rest assured..say at least once within a decade or so?.
I think whatever the price paid for the service should be reasonable and justified. I have those 2 makes and I wouldn't think of sending it to some 3rd party SC, no way.Err buddy BSLee...IF you are referring to Vintage watches prior to 70s...MOST Service Centres of makers like Rolex/Omega...
MAY LIKELY not have the relevant replacement parts...anymore.

RSC or Rolex Service Centres...worldwide...
for an example will NOT accept your OLD Vintage watch for servicing or repair...
UNLESS you deliver it in to Rolex Geneva...or you could be some BIG shots...
BUT that's limited to certain models...only.

bslee
13-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Yes, bro Orchi you may be quite right.
My watch is the poor man's Daytona lah. My the other one is the Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 Moonwatch re-issue.
Yes, quite aware the Rolex Daytona white face prices have gone through the roof in the past decade, and it never occured to me at that point of time as an investment. SHould I KTB (kick the Buck**), willed both to my 2 sons already, they go fight which one they will own for life eventually.... hehehe! :)

orchipalar
13-09-2009, 11:10 AM
Yes, bro Orchi you may be quite right.
My watch is the poor man's Daytona lah. My the other one is the Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 Moonwatch re-issue.
Yes, quite aware the Rolex Daytona white face prices have gone through the roof in the past decade, and it never occured to me at that point of time as an investment. SHould I KTB (kick the Buck**), willed both to my 2 sons already, they go fight which one they will own for life eventually.... hehehe! :)Err buddy BSLee...IF you had bought the earliest Omega Speedmaster with Cal.321 movement...yes the SAME model that was bought off the shelve in Omega Store by NASA in late 60s...which had commissioned it for the moonwalkers like Neil Amstrong...you could EASILY sell it off to a collector today for more than USD5K...

It was a common chronograph watch those days...

bslee
13-09-2009, 11:19 AM
Again, never crossed my mind to sell, was for keeps lah..still keeping them anyhow.
These days, I proudly and daily wear my Mydin Casio RM40 model.. hahah!
BTW, I happen to have one limited edition publication book on Rolex watch. must go dig it up and read through..

orchipalar
13-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Thanks for all leads. If the dealers are not reliable to give an actual market price (is there one?), then who can we rely on? I have a silly question - does the price go up with the years? Would an old watch cost more or less than a new one?Err buddy lly...have NO fear...

The mere mention of the nickname "Orchi"...would send Mr. Lam(FOCUS Time located in 2nd Floor Summit) to offer you...
1st Class service...as one of the most experienced watchmaker/highly respected used watch dealer/valuer...in the market.

Just let Mr. Lam knows that Orchi n Debbie recommended you...to him.

He can be reached at the phone numbers 03-80236422 that buddy Lady-O had provided you with
in her posting...from Wednesday to Sunday...from 2:30pm until 7pm.

Orchi can PERSONALLY vouch for his professionalism n credibility for his handling of your watches...or clocks...(valuable or otherwise regardless)

Have NO fear...or worries.

lly
14-09-2009, 03:25 PM
Gee, thanks Orchi and everyone! Learnt something new. We bought the watch to help a friend and colleague, now just curious to find out exactly what we got :p

Sentinel
14-09-2009, 05:57 PM
Orchipalar Sir, would this buddy of yours be able to service a Breitling Chrono, the one with 5,000 metre waterproof stuff with a breather hole summore?

I used to have it serviced at the agent in Bandar Seri Begawan but now I don't go there no more... :rolleyes:

orchipalar
14-09-2009, 10:34 PM
Orchipalar Sir, would this buddy of yours be able to service a Breitling Chrono, the one with 5,000 metre waterproof stuff with a breather hole summore?

I used to have it serviced at the agent in Bandar Seri Begawan but now I don't go there no more... :rolleyes: Err buddy Sentinel...has it got a mechanical movement(automatic self winding) or Quartz movement(battery operated)...?

Sentinel
14-09-2009, 11:25 PM
Err buddy Sentinel...has it got a mechanical movement(automatic self winding) or Quartz movement(battery operated)...?Its a chronometer ie automatic self winding....

orchipalar
15-09-2009, 12:29 AM
Its a chronometer ie automatic self winding....Err buddy Sentinel...then it probably has an ETA 7750 movement...

If it's not heavily worn...it should only need a full service once every 3 to 5 years...

That said...it should be an Avenger Chrono Diver watch rated at 1000m/3300ft with decompression relief valve...

orchipalar
15-09-2009, 12:38 AM
Again, never crossed my mind to sell, was for keeps lah..still keeping them anyhow.
These days, I proudly and daily wear my Mydin Casio RM40 model.. hahah!
BTW, I happen to have one limited edition publication book on Rolex watch. must go dig it up and read through..Err buddy BSLee...it would be good...
to let your sons start off early by keeping stuffs that do not depreciate much in values...

Otherwise...youngsters tend to go for trendy watches such as Tag Heuer or Omega Planet Ocean...
which may cost them few thousands or more to wear...
with Quartz movement in it...

What a waste it would be to find out in years later...that it's worth scrap prices...
the kind the old newspaper men would not even want to buy...

Let them know early in life that...there are certain material thingy that they buy today...
would probably be worth more by the time they pass them on to your grandchildren or...theirs.

orchipalar
15-09-2009, 12:49 AM
Ah!... used dealers, they're always shrewd at this, their evaluation can likely be on the low or very low side, perhaps and hopeful intent they acquire it from you at steal price, then sell it for high profit. Nothing else new in the business world. Just like used cars, same thing lah.

Rolex is one make that holds high value and retail prices continue to appreciate annually by some percentage to the point of absurdity.Err buddy BSLee...most do...but NOT every used watch dealers is that greedy...

More often then NOT...
Mr. Lam paid above market value for a CERTAIN used watches that came his way...
Like most material things...there's a market rate that determines the average...
resale values of watches n jewelry(depending on its conditions)...
even in bad economic times...

rakyat
15-09-2009, 09:00 AM
Gee, thanks Orchi and everyone! Learnt something new. We bought the watch to help a friend and colleague, now just curious to find out exactly what we got :p

Just a suggestion, why not google or go to e-bay to get an indicative market value.

So Quartz is for 'looks' while mechanical movement is 'investment grade' :p

lady-o-leisure
15-09-2009, 11:13 AM
Hi rakyat... It is always handy to check online for an indicative value but usually, an automatic watch has to be opened up, checked internally to ensure the parts are original, still in good condition, and external condition evaluated too. The timing can also be checked by Mr Lam to see if it is running perfect. There are some cases where the watch looks perfect, runs well, but inside, the mechanism parts hv been switched with non-original parts. That will affect the value.

rakyat
15-09-2009, 11:26 AM
Hi rakyat... It is always handy to check online for an indicative value but usually, an automatic watch has to be opened up, checked internally to ensure the parts are original, still in good condition, and external condition evaluated too. The timing can also be checked by Mr Lam to see if it is running perfect. There are some cases where the watch looks perfect, runs well, but inside, the mechanism parts hv been switched with non-original parts. That will affect the value.

Thats way it is just an indicative pricing b/4 going for a valuation; then u will know how sharp the valuers parang is :D

Sentinel
15-09-2009, 11:31 AM
Err buddy Sentinel...then it probably has an ETA 7750 movement...

If it's not heavily worn...it should only need a full service once every 3 to 5 years...

That said...it should be an Avenger Chrono Diver watch rated at 1000m/3300ft with decompression relief valve...It is rated at 5,000m, thats what is written on the face with Titanium casing and strap. So, does yr friend do the service for Breitling?

orchipalar
15-09-2009, 05:31 PM
It is rated at 5,000m, thats what is written on the face with Titanium casing and strap. So, does yr friend do the service for Breitling?Err buddy Sentinel...if it has mechanical automatic self winding movement...yes he would 1st quote you for the service or any parts replacement estimates...when necessary.

Sentinel
15-09-2009, 05:49 PM
OK. Ayam kambing down 27th next week so I might pass it to him...