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AllUrban
27-08-2009, 09:38 AM
MPSJ to recycle used cooking oil (http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2009/8/27/central/4595903&sec=central) for a 6month trial period.

I think this is a good idea.

A good idea ... hopefully it will reduce the amount of re-used oil and waste oil. Hopefully households will soon be able to participate too!

Cheers, m

firefox
27-08-2009, 10:51 AM
Good idea but at the same time MPSJ should have a good look at their kitchens and banned some of them.

HTCHONG
27-08-2009, 01:36 PM
This is not new. As a matter of fact this business has been going on for years. There was a documentary by MediaCorp (Singapore) recently. Apart from using the recycled oil as bio-fuel, it is also used to make soap :D . Anyway, it is a good start to recycle this cooking oil instead of throwing away. :)

clfoo
27-08-2009, 08:26 PM
this is a good move. thailand start using them for bio-fuel much earlier than us. i hope it will be a success in usj. then later can start collecting from residential are ... and soon we will hear new song jingling -- old newspaper, suratkhabar lama, battery lama, minyak masak lama, baju dalam lama ..ooops ....

if local kfc, mcdonald and other eatery chain not doing this now, i think it's time to promote the idea to them.

BMW9700
27-08-2009, 09:36 PM
imagine the bitumen circulating in our arteries! after ingesting all that fried food

MasterQ
27-08-2009, 11:20 PM
this is a good move. thailand start using them for bio-fuel much earlier than us. i hope it will be a success in usj. then later can start collecting from residential are ....
There is one big problem here in Malaysia. We have this halal issue. So long as it is confined to known establishment like the fast food outlets where they possessed the halal certificate, then there is no issue. But there is a different kind of issue in the post collection - the by products. You can't possibly use recycled oil to produce soap. You will get the PPIM coming to your doorstep in no time. It is again the halal issue.

HTCHONG
28-08-2009, 09:03 AM
.....You can't possibly use recycled oil to produce soap. You will get the PPIM coming to your doorstep in no time. It is again the halal issue.

Soap with halal endorsement...this is getting complicated.. :p

AllUrban
28-08-2009, 02:14 PM
There is one big problem here in Malaysia. We have this halal issue. So long as it is confined to known establishment like the fast food outlets where they possessed the halal certificate, then there is no issue. But there is a different kind of issue in the post collection - the by products. You can't possibly use recycled oil to produce soap. You will get the PPIM coming to your doorstep in no time. It is again the halal issue.that is an interesting challenge but it can be worked out.

At some point when you get down to the molecular level, the nature of "Halal" and "non-halal" items must change.

The specifics can be worked out.

In the meantime ... I bet that the fast food places, restaurants and hawker stalls will produce enough oil for MPSJ's needs for years to come.

Cheers, m

clfoo
28-08-2009, 07:17 PM
There is one big problem here in Malaysia. We have this halal issue. So long as it is confined to known establishment like the fast food outlets where they possessed the halal certificate, then there is no issue. But there is a different kind of issue in the post collection - the by products. You can't possibly use recycled oil to produce soap. You will get the PPIM coming to your doorstep in no time. It is again the halal issue.

even the bitumen and bio-fuel also got halal issue ??? :confused: .. that's progress toward 'afghanistan' oledi...

kwchang
28-08-2009, 10:14 PM
Read carefully, MQ was talking about soap - stuff that comes into contact with humans will invoke the problems of halal source ... if it may frighten you, lard is also an oil.

JoeJaffar
29-08-2009, 10:46 AM
even the bitumen and bio-fuel also got halal issue ??? :confused: .. that's progress toward 'afghanistan' oledi...

why do you have to equate with taliban and other extremism when that's a genuine concern for muslim?

clfoo
29-08-2009, 04:27 PM
why do you have to equate with taliban and other extremism when that's a genuine concern for muslim?

if bitumen and bio-fuel also have halal issue that is not extremist then what ?


Read carefully, MQ was talking about soap - stuff that comes into contact with humans will invoke the problems of halal source ... if it may frighten you, lard is also an oil.
i got your point.

JoeJaffar
31-08-2009, 05:32 PM
if bitumen and bio-fuel also have halal issue that is not extremist then what ?



what's wrong if a muslim wants to confirm if there are any issues with that?
it's the same way regarding the Nuwater in Singapore. it helps to remove doubts and misunderstanding.

don't be too quick to call it extremism, and don't confuse fundamental issues with overzealous interpretations.

clfoo
01-09-2009, 12:59 AM
what's wrong if a muslim wants to confirm if there are any issues with that?
it's the same way regarding the Nuwater in Singapore. it helps to remove doubts and misunderstanding.

don't be too quick to call it extremism, and don't confuse fundamental issues with overzealous interpretations.

only if you can show me real ppl who is consuming bitumen or bio-fuel then your argument can hold water.
Follow the same thought should one start questioning Malaysia, Saudi, Kuwait, Iran and all oil producing countries whether their crude oil are from permissible organisms?

JoeJaffar
01-09-2009, 01:35 PM
who's eating bitumen?

halalness is not limited to food consumed, it's also a way of life. food, clothing, wealth earned etc.

if the learned ones can remove the concern and doubt over the usage of say, lard, mixed with vege-based oils to be recycled and used as road-making materials and what nots, then fine by me.

umadavid
01-09-2009, 01:50 PM
Halalness not connected to food is wide. one is : Money comes in constant contact with many non halal things while it circulates. So would this be an issue, if not - why not?

I'm sure that any oil that is recycled would go through some cleansing process before it is utilised.