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Sentinel
13-08-2009, 03:00 PM
I drove some residents of an old folks home back from the hospital and was driving off to have my van washed when I decided to pop by and see the stand-off at Kg Buah Pala where residents are forming a human barricade against the developers' bulldozers which were there since this morning to demolish the village...

I wanted to stay a bit longer but could not because the villagers were using a natural resource widely available at the village to fight the developer and the police.

What do you think they were using?

umadavid
13-08-2009, 03:08 PM
Cow dung ah? And how they use it?

Sentinel
13-08-2009, 03:18 PM
Cow dung ah? And how they use it?Yah... cowdung bombs... like the size of sepak takraw flying everywhere.... it seems they have a mountain of it prepared for battle royale!

tsd
13-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Yah... cowdung bombs... like the size of sepak takraw flying everywhere.... it seems they have a mountain of it prepared for battle royale!

hahaha... got people kena or not ? lets hope the FRU dont learn from them... I think cow dung is more effective than tear gas.

umadavid
13-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Wow! It musta been a sight to behold!

Sugarfree
13-08-2009, 03:24 PM
lets hope the FRU dont learn from them... I think cow dung is more effective than tear gas.the stench will stay for at least a week! if i were the cops, i would stay far, far away! :p

nyem
13-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Battle of Cow Dungs .... can't wait to see it on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=buah+pala&search_sort=video_date_uploaded)

lord
15-08-2009, 02:45 AM
Another famous 'weapon' among indian women, especially in the olden days, was chilli powder. Have heard many stories about this happening in the estates. So, be forewarned, if you decide to pick a fight with an 'achee'.

ksj_cool
15-08-2009, 12:21 PM
Is the 1200sq ft house given as compensation really worth 500K?

Sentinel
15-08-2009, 02:34 PM
Is the 1200sq ft house given as compensation really worth 500K?Houses in USJ are mostly 20x60ft which is 1,200 sq ft. It should be around RM280,000 in USJ at developer's price and maybe RM340,000 in the market. Penang's houses are like 30-40% more and if you look at Kg Buah Pala's location, I would think RM500,000 for a detached house there is a fair estimate.

In any case, the land was considered state government land after Merdeka and these people were living on the land on TOL. There were only 23 families with TOL but there are now 65 families staying there and all want compensation.

Secondly, the land was sold to the developer by previous state goivernment and they have gone to court and won their case. The present state government only collected the RM3.2 million money and issued the title accordingly on 14 March 2009, 6 days after winning the election. LGE has not even moved into his office yet on 14th... it was the land office, manned by staff from old state government, which completed the transaction.

tupai
17-08-2009, 02:14 PM
if i was in the opposition team in penang...I will surely and actively instigate the TOL settlers to fight & bring down the pkr gomen. ;)

Yang Banyak strategise busuk latotupai ;)

bugbear
17-08-2009, 02:33 PM
I believe LGE really got kena big time when he moved into office. What a shock to know that he got in just in time for "High Noon" at OK Corral.

VeeJay
16-09-2009, 11:43 PM
Sorry, folks, not to dig back the issue, but I just received this
youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqlN9GXe-A&feature=player_embedded) link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqlN9GXe-A&feature=player_embedded

Make your own judgment after viewing it...now I understand the frustration by KBP residents, where promises was not kept, its not about before the election, but as early as this year....hmmm

Sentinel
17-09-2009, 01:17 AM
Sorry, folks, not to dig back the issue, but I just received this
youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqlN9GXe-A&feature=player_embedded) link...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqlN9GXe-A&feature=player_embedded

Make your own judgment after viewing it...now I understand the frustration by KBP residents, where promises was not kept, its not about before the election, but as early as this year....hmmm
VeeJay, who initiated the sale of the land to the developer for MYR6.4 million with a hefty 50% discount to MYR3.2 million?

Once the High Court has decided after 2 appeals that the residents do not have any right to the land, even the PM cannot turn that around so how can this RSN Rayer or CM Lim Guan Eng do anything? CM Lim Guan Eng negotiated for them a settlement of a MYR400,000 double-storey house plus MYR8,000 moving out fund, what else can he do when the law is binding and his hands are tied?

This man did what he did despite the 'committee' calling him to resign from Day 1 and go back to Malacca....

Many of us cannot even smell a MYR400,000 double-storey house In Penang. Those residents were manipulated by politicians with an agenda of their own, with advance apologies, they were driven to greater greed.

Where is T.Mohan of MIC Youth and Vel Paari who promised MYR3.2 million for the residents... can't even see the tip of his nose.

The residents also condemned the CM for being useless after being offered a double-storey house and then went to see DPM Muhyiddin during the Permatang Pasir by-election... what happened? Nothing!

If you know who is the developer then you will understand the situation.

Anyway read this from G.KHRISNAN (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/26913/84/) who might help you understand the situation better.

Penangites, including me, were all rooting and supporting the residents but when they keep increasing their demands after they got the double-storey house.... sorry lah, there are more than 23 families in the entire Penang / Butterworth area that are poor and need help.

USJ27Resident
17-09-2009, 01:23 AM
If you know who is the developer then you will understand the situation.

who la... do tell... :p

Sentinel
17-09-2009, 01:28 AM
who la... do tell... :pUSJ27Resident, read this article from G. Khrishna titled BUAH PALA : BUAH UMNO (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/26913/84/) and you will know who is behind the developer.

keny
17-09-2009, 09:37 AM
during GE 2008, people decide to vote for;

BN-based on track record 52 years. They don't like it, they didn't vote.
PR-based on promises and promises (except Kelantan).

PAS in Selangor PROMISED to close all beers factories
PR in Penang PROMISED Kg Buah Pala will stay

Then why 20,000 VCD of promise done by PR on Kg Buah Pala were consfisticated and burned?

Sentinel
17-09-2009, 01:14 PM
during GE 2008, people decide to vote for;

BN-based on track record 52 years. They don't like it, they didn't vote.
PR-based on promises and promises (except Kelantan).

PAS in Selangor PROMISED to close all beers factories
PR in Penang PROMISED Kg Buah Pala will stay

Then why 20,000 VCD of promise done by PR on Kg Buah Pala were consfisticated and burned?
Since you have concluded on behalf of the people the reason why they voted for either BN or PR, why not you also tell us why the 20,000 VCDs were confisticated?

p.s. How much does it cost to produce and package 20,000 VCDs... could the 23 resident families have been able to afford the production costs? Think....

besitai2007
17-09-2009, 02:28 PM
If Pakatan really made the promise to the Kampong Pala residents, they should have done their homework (maybe they didn't expect to win and promised the sky?). But the politics of the day is to make the PR government look bad in all the states they had won. Why were these ungrateful people not protesting when the BN government was in power. Now LGE is going to face another problem in Tanjung Tokong. Can't help but smell the dirty handiwork of BN.

Sentinel
17-09-2009, 06:01 PM
If Pakatan really made the promise to the Kampong Pala residents, they should have done their homework (maybe they didn't expect to win and promised the sky?). But the politics of the day is to make the PR government look bad in all the states they had won. Why were these ungrateful people not protesting when the BN government was in power. Now LGE is going to face another problem in Tanjung Tokong. Can't help but smell the dirty handiwork of BN.Besitai, both sides of the political divide made promises during the run-up to the March 08 general elections, no doubt about it. That is only to be expected by these politicians. It is also no surprise that only two DVDs surfaced ie RSN Rayer and Anwar Ibrahim.

To cut a story short, only 1 party won the general election to form the state government and what is an easier and more sensational target that the sitting government?

Moreover, those stirring the cow dung amongst these residents are from the other side of the fence so thats why the dungs are thrown at the present state government and not at their own colleagues.

At the end of the day, we also cannot blame the residents. They were influenced by so many interested parties and being of not very high education, they got misled. At this point, I am happy to say that 16 out of 23 families have signed the dotted line and their houses have been handed over to the developer willingly and they have been demolished.

Ultimately the issue will be resolved. It is unfortunate that some parties used these inncocent residents for their own political agenda. Looks like it will still drag on for some time. Pakatan Rakyat might lose some votes in the coming by-election at Bagan Pinang in NS, no doubt about it, but they have come through this crisis slightly bruised. Their integrity however remained unblemished and most Penangites are are much more strongly behind the state leadership, that at least was a good outcome. (The loud cheer when Guan Eng arrived for the recent Hungry Ghost Festival Dinner at Batu Ferringhi is an indication the people understood his actions and / or inactions in the issue).

hezron
17-09-2009, 08:19 PM
LGE did a good job to resolving this issue...