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AllUrban
27-07-2009, 03:33 PM
I have posted reproductions of the proposed route & station locations to the TRANSIT website, as well as comments on the briefing.

You can see the images at the following link:

http://transitmy.org/2009/07/27/proposed-extension-of-kelana-jaya-line-not-finalized/

No claims are made to the accuracy of the reproductions below.

Cheers, m

Glenmarie - SJ section

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/proposed-extension-of-kjl-from-presentation-glenmarie.jpg

SJ - USJ Section

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/proposed-extension-of-kjl-from-presentation-sj-usj.jpg

USJ - Putra Heights section

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/proposed-extension-of-kjl-from-presentation-usj-ph.jpg

tsd
27-07-2009, 04:18 PM
I have posted reproductions of the proposed route & station locations to the TRANSIT website, as well as comments on the briefing.

You can see the images at the following link:

http://transitmy.org/2009/07/27/proposed-extension-of-kelana-jaya-line-not-finalized/

No claims are made to the accuracy of the reproductions below.

Cheers, m

SJ - USJ Section

http://transitmy.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/proposed-extension-of-kjl-from-presentation-sj-usj.jpg


thanks


from the picture the SS14/SS18 station looks like the SS18 field.

AllUrban
27-07-2009, 06:09 PM
thanks


from the picture the SS14/SS18 station looks like the SS18 field.that's where I placed the station - remember, it's a reproduction and it cannot be too close to the original or I kena whacking from Prasarana, OSA and all that :p

Dato' Idrose specifically mentioned that it would be near the SS18 school. If I have placed it in the wrong area, Im sorry about that. The images are a bit blurry too.

Cheers, m

pucman
27-07-2009, 08:51 PM
1.As for not using kewajipan from the start, the reason is because of the elevated Subang Kelana Link.

2. Regarding the extension to Sunway, Dato' Idrose did mention the idea of upgrading the Sunway monorail into a full size monorail to connect the Kelana Jaya and Sri Petaling lines.



1. That goes to show that there's no proper planning of public transport. They shouldn't have built the elevated flyover as LRT is more important in the long run.

2. Switching from one system to another system is a nightmare in malaysia, it involves tons of walking (waste of time) in the rain/dust, waiting again and also we have to pay extra money (waste of money) too.

3. It's a mistake routing to Dana1 and Dana2 as it increases the travelling/stopping time as that place is not important (and also involve a L-turn rather than straight line).

It is more important to build a station near the LHDN, kelana jaya park, stadium as lots of people use that area.

Regarding transit to subang airport, either lembah subang or Kelana jaya park can be used as a transit point.

Can anybody here propose to cancel Dana ?

tsd
27-07-2009, 11:03 PM
that's where I placed the station - remember, it's a reproduction and it cannot be too close to the original or I kena whacking from Prasarana, OSA and all that :p

Dato' Idrose specifically mentioned that it would be near the SS18 school. If I have placed it in the wrong area, Im sorry about that. The images are a bit blurry too.

Cheers, m

if near SS18 school, the only place with empty land will be the SS18 field. I am very sure the SS18 residents will be very unhappy with it. I was hoping they would built the station nearer to the Kesas highway.

Is there any mention about the noise level generated by the trains ?

pucman
27-07-2009, 11:58 PM
if near SS18 school, the only place with empty land will be the SS18 field. I am very sure the SS18 residents will be very unhappy with it. I was hoping they would built the station nearer to the Kesas highway.

Is there any mention about the noise level generated by the trains ?


Ss15 and ss18 are very near each other. We don't need another stop here to increase travelling time if it is also near the resident area.

tsd
28-07-2009, 08:43 AM
Ss15 and ss18 are very near each other. We don't need another stop here to increase travelling time if it is also near the resident area.

you are right, actually they SS14,SS18,SS17 and SS15 can share the same station... they only need to move it nearer to the former round-about near the public bank in SS15.

AllUrban
28-07-2009, 11:10 AM
1. That goes to show that there's no proper planning of public transport. They shouldn't have built the elevated flyover as LRT is more important in the long run.

2. Switching from one system to another system is a nightmare in malaysia, it involves tons of walking (waste of time) in the rain/dust, waiting again and also we have to pay extra money (waste of money) too.

3. It's a mistake routing to Dana1 and Dana2 as it increases the travelling/stopping time as that place is not important (and also involve a L-turn rather than straight line).

It is more important to build a station near the LHDN, kelana jaya park, stadium as lots of people use that area.

Regarding transit to subang airport, either lembah subang or Kelana jaya park can be used as a transit point.

Can anybody here propose to cancel Dana ?The station at Dana might not be necessary ... but the route is still going to pass Dana from Lembah Subang - there is no other way to get out of Lembah Subang because the line is routed east-west at Lembah Subang...so it has to turn towards the north-south direction in some way.

You should attend the public display and make your proposal and also contact the minister of Transport (menteri@mot.gov.my) and the media.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
28-07-2009, 11:14 AM
if near SS18 school, the only place with empty land will be the SS18 field. I am very sure the SS18 residents will be very unhappy with it. I was hoping they would built the station nearer to the Kesas highway.

Is there any mention about the noise level generated by the trains ?No specific numbers were given about the decibel level but Dato' Idrose mentioned that they would be putting full noise mitigation measures into the line (again, no specific details were given).

As for an integrated station near the public bank, that might work but the businesses may object to the loss of parking spaces and the congestion the station would generate.

Also, the station could not be too close to the interchange because it has to climb over the flyover.

Most likely they could move the SS15 station to the area of the "Old Taste" coffee shop and not include the station between SS14 and SS18.

Cheers, m

PeterHng
28-07-2009, 11:24 AM
The station at Dana might not be necessary ... but the route is still going to pass Dana from Lembah Subang - there is no other way to get out of Lembah Subang because the line is routed east-west at Lembah Subang...so it has to turn towards the north-south direction in some way.

You should attend the public display and make your proposal and also contact the minister of Transport (menteri@mot.gov.my) and the media.

Cheers, m

m, I think Dana was planned for the ppl at Ara Damansara (Sime Prop). Seemed that that place is booming and expanding quite big now.

AllUrban
28-07-2009, 11:30 AM
m, I think Dana was planned for the ppl at Ara Damansara (Sime Prop). Seemed that that place is booming and expanding quite big now.That is also a possibility. I didnt get a chance for a close look at the route map that Dato' Idrose projected so I do not know the exact location where the station would be.

As I said earlier, that station should probably be located right on the Subang Airport road, so it could connect to a Bus Rapid Transit along Subang Airport road. It would be a 1-stop trip to Oasis and feeder buses could serve the route to Ara Damansara.

Another possibility is that Ara Damansara will be served by the proposed extension of the LRT to Shah Alam and Klang.

Cheers, m

PeterHng
28-07-2009, 11:46 AM
Dana could be made into a kind of transfer station like Masjid Jamek where 2 lines meet to go either Subang or Shah Alam way. They have ample land space there.

robertec
28-07-2009, 12:39 PM
Here are some of the reports that were filed about the Briefing/Dialogue held on Saturday 25/07/2009

Saturday 25 July 2009
SJ Echo
LRT Route for Subang Jaya (http://www.sjecho.com.my/?page=article&id=943)


Tuesday July 28, 2009
The StarMetro
SJ folk say yes to LRT (http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2009/7/28/central/4396641&sec=central)
By OH ING YEEN

pucman
28-07-2009, 02:58 PM
m, I think Dana was planned for the ppl at Ara Damansara (Sime Prop). Seemed that that place is booming and expanding quite big now.

Which residential area is not 'booming' and expanding in klang valley ? In fact, damansara jaya, utama, bandar utama was 'booming' long before them.
So do we have a LRT stop at every 'booming' residential taman ?

It is more logical to build a station at public places like the LHDN, kelana jaya park and pool. During sports events, the number of cars there is outrageous and add to the congestion at LDP. Having an LRT there will reduce the overcongested LDP traffic.

Dana is too close to the kelana jaya park. It is better to build an interchange at kelana jaya park or existing lembah subang if possible.

Remember, for every LRT stop, the travelling time to KL will increase.

pucman
28-07-2009, 07:21 PM
You should attend the public display and make your proposal and also contact the minister of Transport (menteri@mot.gov.my) and the media.

Cheers, m

I've already sent my proposal to that email. From my past experiences, these govt servants usually don't read or respond to emails from the public.

AllUrban
29-07-2009, 12:33 PM
I've already sent my proposal to that email. From my past experiences, these govt servants usually don't read or respond to emails from the public.That is an issue but now is the time to keep pressing.

The government has made it clear that they want to improve public transport and the Minister of Transport is the one responsible.

Also, TRANSIT will compile objections from the public and submit them in one large submission.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
29-07-2009, 12:44 PM
Which residential area is not 'booming' and expanding in klang valley ? In fact, damansara jaya, utama, bandar utama was 'booming' long before them.
So do we have a LRT stop at every 'booming' residential taman ?

It is more logical to build a station at public places like the LHDN, kelana jaya park and pool. During sports events, the number of cars there is outrageous and add to the congestion at LDP. Having an LRT there will reduce the overcongested LDP traffic.

Dana is too close to the kelana jaya park. It is better to build an interchange at kelana jaya park or existing lembah subang if possible.

Remember, for every LRT stop, the travelling time to KL will increase.That is a good point, there are so many booming areas and not all areas can get LRT.

Frankly, I do not know if the demand for public transport even justifies the extension of the LRT past Subang Jaya Komuter Station. PJ is booming faster, has greater density and more traffic congestion problems.

Assuming that people in SJ need LRT because of traffic congestion or the college students market ... is not enough to justify the spending of 10 billion ringgit on LRT - especially when other options can be considered.

Prasarana needs to make their documents public to show that the extension of both of the LRT lines to Putra Heights is financially justified.

As for the the issue of frequency of stops is an important one and worth discussing.

Prasarana has decided that they want stops 1km to 1.3 km apart. Many of us might look at those distances as being too short or may mistakenly assume that they are closer than 1km (for example, the SS15 and SS18 stops).

It is important to have a balance between speed and convenience for the users and generally, stations are 1 km apart in urban areas and 2-3 km apart in suburban areas. This is because in urban areas people are expected to walk to the stations, while in suburban areas a system of feeder buses or bicycling or driving is expected.

Also, we should consider that this line will not only be a connection to KL and PJ. It is also going to help move people around SJ.

So a balance is going to have to be found between speed and convenience, longer distance and local travel.

Cheers, m

pucman
29-07-2009, 01:11 PM
Prasarana needs to make their documents public to show that the extension of both of the LRT lines to Putra Heights is financially justified.



For your info, Subang Jaya is now the second largest city in Malaysia, it is justified to have LRT running through it to relieve congestion.

If you have too many stops , then it is just like taking a bus ride which will take ages to reach your destination. We need feeder buses to this LRT and not more LRT stops. LRT stops should only be at important public places such as:

1. Kelana Jaya Park/stadium (LHDN, park, sports stadium, commercial center, high rise residential)
2. Subang KTM (subang parade, carrefour)
3. SS15 (due to many colleges, commercial center, SS12 - ss19 residents)
4. Summit (due to shopping mall, cater to USJ 1-usj7)
5. Taipan (mosque, commercial center, cater to USJ 8-USJ14)
6. Taipan 2 (commercial center, USJ 15 - usj 20)

All the other stops are redundant and costly.

AllUrban
30-07-2009, 11:15 AM
For your info, Subang Jaya is now the second largest city in Malaysia, it is justified to have LRT running through it to relieve congestion.

If you have too many stops , then it is just like taking a bus ride which will take ages to reach your destination. We need feeder buses to this LRT and not more LRT stops. LRT stops should only be at important public places such as:

1. Kelana Jaya Park/stadium (LHDN, park, sports stadium, commercial center, high rise residential)
2. Subang KTM (subang parade, carrefour)
3. SS15 (due to many colleges, commercial center, SS12 - ss19 residents)
4. Summit (due to shopping mall, cater to USJ 1-usj7)
5. Taipan (mosque, commercial center, cater to USJ 8-USJ14)
6. Taipan 2 (commercial center, USJ 15 - usj 20)

All the other stops are redundant and costly.sorry, we gotta have more specific info.

MPSJ is large but many areas are rural ... or suburban ... with some urbanized areas like Subang Jaya. MBPJ is large and higher in density with more urbanized areas and greater congestion. By rights it needs the LRT first.

But that is why we need evidence that the LRT extension is really necessary. Congestion is not enough, there has to be numbers made public. We are talking about the spending of billions of RM here.

I agree with you that some of those stops on the proposal will not really be necessary and will slow down the LRT service. It will become a question of what the people of Subang want most.

Hopefully we will come up with a compromise solution.

By the way, a question for all...what do you think of a monorail that runs from KL to Puchong Jaya to Sunway to Subang Jaya to Jalan Tujuan to Pers. Murni to Summit then back to Puchong Jaya and KL?

Because that may be the necessary solution for KL and Sunway - it also helps to connect the two LRT lines...

Cheers, m

pucman
30-07-2009, 05:07 PM
. MBPJ is large and higher in density with more urbanized areas and greater congestion. By rights it needs the LRT first.

Cheers, m

PJ already has LRT ages ago.

Kelana jaya, taman jaya, asia jaya stations are a few of them.

Of course, we can't have a stop at every area in PJ.

AllUrban
30-07-2009, 05:32 PM
PJ already has LRT ages ago.

Kelana jaya, taman jaya, asia jaya stations are a few of them.

Of course, we can't have a stop at every area in PJ.hahah PJ has 1 LRT line and it needs 2 more LRT lines :)

North-south (TTDI - Seksyen 17 - Seksyen 14 - PJ Old Town - PJ Selatan)

East-West (KL- Seksyen 16 - TTDI - Bandar Utama - Kota Damansara)

SJ may need 1 LRT line - when all of Pers Kewajipan is choc-a-blok with buildings on both sides ... wait wait wait....that will be soon, once they sell the SS13 flats and USJ1 / USJ7 industrial lands near Kewajipan and start building condominiums & service apartments again ...... :eek:

Cheers, m

AllUrban
30-07-2009, 05:54 PM
I have been told that there is a plan for residents to get together and submit a proposal to Prasarana on stations and also on how to integrate Sunway into the LRT extension.

You can help by please listing your top stations for SJ, USJ and Putra Heights, from most important to least important. Also, provide a rationale for the need for this station.

For example,

Subang Jaya SS16 - to integrate with KTM
Summit USJ1 - to get people to go there

Cheers, m

misoray
30-07-2009, 11:50 PM
SJ may
....that will be soon, once they sell the SS13 flats and USJ1 / USJ7 industrial lands near Kewajipan and start building condominiums & service apartments again ...... :eek:

Cheers, m


:mad: I'm already suffocating and after all the development and congestion I wonder how ambulances will get through all this jam to reach SJMC!!! :confused:

pucman
31-07-2009, 12:09 AM
For example,

Subang Jaya SS16 - to integrate with KTM
Summit USJ1 - to get people to go there

Cheers, m

1. Kelana Jaya Park/stadium (LHDN, park, MBPJ swimming pool, sports stadium, commercial center, some condo residential)

2. Sunway (sunway pyramid, sunway lagoon, renown universities, commercial center)

3. Subang KTM (subang parade, carrefour, integrate with KTM)

4. SS15 (due to many colleges, commercial center, SS12 - ss19 residents)

5. Summit (largest buddhist temple (horrible jam during wesak day), summit shopping mall, cater to USJ 1-usj7)

6. Taipan (mosque, commercial center, cater to USJ 8-USJ14)

7. Taipan 2 or USJ 19 (commercial center, USJ 15 - usj 22)

8. USJ 25 (cater for USJ 23-27, putra heights, interchange with sri petaling LRT)

How do I submit this to prasana ?

clfoo
31-07-2009, 01:09 AM
By the way, a question for all...what do you think of a monorail that runs from KL to Puchong Jaya to Sunway to Subang Jaya to Jalan Tujuan to Pers. Murni to Summit then back to Puchong Jaya and KL?

Because that may be the necessary solution for KL and Sunway - it also helps to connect the two LRT lines...

Cheers, m


sound like good option. monorail run from kl-sentral (but extend first lah from brickfield to kl-sentral) - old klang road - puchong jaya - sunway - usj

or

monorail just run in a loop covering subang jaya - sunway - ioi - bandar puteri - putra height - usj - subang jaya . meeting lrt/ktm at subang jaya.

AllUrban
31-07-2009, 12:06 PM
How do I submit this to prasana ?I will get you the information so that you can submit in advance of the public display.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
31-07-2009, 12:52 PM
sound like good option. monorail run from kl-sentral (but extend first lah from brickfield to kl-sentral) - old klang road - puchong jaya - sunway - usj

or

monorail just run in a loop covering subang jaya - sunway - ioi - bandar puteri - putra height - usj - subang jaya . meeting lrt/ktm at subang jaya.Sorry to say but that isnt going to happen, the parking lot between KL Sentral and Brickfields is going to become a hotel + shopping mall. Instead of bringing the monorail to KL Sentral, they will be bringing KL Sentral to the monorail.

Also, there is a plan to build an LRT station underground at Jalan Tun Sambanthan for the Sg. Buloh to Cheras LRT/MRT.

Thanks for the feedback

Cheers, m

pucman
31-07-2009, 07:37 PM
sound like good option. monorail run from kl-sentral (but extend first lah from brickfield to kl-sentral) - old klang road - puchong jaya - sunway - usj

.

Please note that monorail is a mini version of LRT. It can only carry a small number of passengers.

Have you used the bukit bintang monorail ? Most of the time, I have to stand.

The best is we have a MRT (like singapore) that can move more people but since this is just an extension to the existing LRT, we have no choice but to bear with it.

kwchang
31-07-2009, 11:15 PM
By the way, in Singapore, they use the monorails only within a complex of high-rise flats. There the monorails serve to transport commuters back to their flats from the MRT station. Therefore a Sunway monorail is a reasonable idea for commuter dispersal but not as a mass transport system to link KL to SJ/USJ.

clfoo
31-07-2009, 11:28 PM
Sorry to say but that isnt going to happen, the parking lot between KL Sentral and Brickfields is going to become a hotel + shopping mall. Instead of bringing the monorail to KL Sentral, they will be bringing KL Sentral to the monorail.

Also, there is a plan to build an LRT station underground at Jalan Tun Sambanthan for the Sg. Buloh to Cheras LRT/MRT.

Thanks for the feedback

Cheers, m

thank you for the head up. i guess then there will be a bridge to walk thru the shopping mall to go to kl sentral. hmm that's a bit better than current route.
underground LRT station at jalan tun sambanthan? foooyooo ... $ from sukuk bond ar?



Please note that monorail is a mini version of LRT. It can only carry a small number of passengers.
ya i aware that monorail have the least capacity among all, but why do many still wanna implement it? bcos in theory it's less costly, faster construction speed, less space required. however in bolehland to defy all this logic is not uncommon.
but if it's only to serve the loop of sunway, subang jaya, usj, puchong it might be viable.

Sukdershan
01-08-2009, 12:07 PM
hahah PJ has 1 LRT line and it needs 2 more LRT lines :)

North-south (TTDI - Seksyen 17 - Seksyen 14 - PJ Old Town - PJ Selatan)

East-West (KL- Seksyen 16 - TTDI - Bandar Utama - Kota Damansara)

SJ may need 1 LRT line - when all of Pers Kewajipan is choc-a-blok with buildings on both sides ... wait wait wait....that will be soon, once they sell the SS13 flats and USJ1 / USJ7 industrial lands near Kewajipan and start building condominiums & service apartments again ...... :eek:

Cheers, mHope these political masters build more affordable carparks at the LRT stations.
:D :eek: :)

Sukdershan
01-08-2009, 12:09 PM
By the way, in Singapore, they use the monorails only within a complex of high-rise flats. There the monorails serve to transport commuters back to their flats from the MRT station. Therefore a Sunway monorail is a reasonable idea for commuter dispersal but not as a mass transport system to link KL to SJ/USJ.
Hope these politicans and their admin people put up publically with figures/statistics the need for this and the logic at least some of us will be enlightened ( say upload in pdf format a document). :D :p :)

AllUrban
02-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Please note that monorail is a mini version of LRT. It can only carry a small number of passengers.

Have you used the bukit bintang monorail ? Most of the time, I have to stand.

The best is we have a MRT (like singapore) that can move more people but since this is just an extension to the existing LRT, we have no choice but to bear with it.Like the Kelana Jaya LRT, the KL Monorail can be expanded to 4 carriages with the current stations.

However, KL monorail trains are 20m compared to 30m for the LRT trains.

The monorail also has lower passenger capacity because the internal design does not allow for many passengers and also because space is lost to the driver's cabin.

Another problem is that the frequency of the monorail trains is low compared to the LRT.

SCOMI, the company that manufactures the monorail, does have a 4 carriage design available in the Gen2 or SUTRA train.


By the way, in Singapore, they use the monorails only within a complex of high-rise flats. There the monorails serve to transport commuters back to their flats from the MRT station. Therefore a Sunway monorail is a reasonable idea for commuter dispersal but not as a mass transport system to link KL to SJ/USJ.I guess it depends on what they can do with the monorail. If they build a new design using the SUTRA 4-carriage trains, or even 8-carriage trains, then it might have the capacity.

Monorail is a cheaper solution compared to LRT and underground trains, but you give up capacity and frequency.

Well, I would rather see a monorail connecting KL and Puchong and Sunway than a monorail running through Putrajaya. http://transitmy.org/2009/07/29/the-curious-case-of-the-putrajaya-monorail/

Cheers, m

pucman
10-08-2009, 11:13 AM
What's the decision after the discussion ?

I sent several emails to the MOT and as usual, there's no replies. I was expecting this anyway. ;)

AllUrban
10-08-2009, 03:39 PM
What's the decision after the discussion ?

I sent several emails to the MOT and as usual, there's no replies. I was expecting this anyway. ;)which discussion? Our community discussion?

Cheers, m

pucman
10-08-2009, 08:46 PM
which discussion? Our community discussion?

Cheers, m

Have you forgotten there was a discussion here in this forum ?

Didn't they want to know what stations are most important etc ?

I doubt they will listen to the public. :rolleyes:

AllUrban
11-08-2009, 01:10 PM
Have you forgotten there was a discussion here in this forum ?

Didn't they want to know what stations are most important etc ?

I doubt they will listen to the public. :rolleyes:Then why submit your opinion?

I havent forgotten that there was a discussion - but it needs to be expanded to include more people.

No point in sticking this thread here in the SJ Alert forum where there is no one to see it.

KWC - can you move this thread back to the main forum and make it sticky and then perhaps we can make a poll and decide about the most important and least important stations, most important and least important issues, etc.

Hopefully we can get more feedback, collect that feedback, and send it to Prasarana in one collection.

We have to make them willing to listen - and the first step is that we must be willing to participate ourselves.

Cheers, m

pucman
11-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Then why submit your opinion?


Cheers, m

Weren't you the one who says it is pointless complaining in this forum etc ?

Didn't you ask me to forward my complaints to the relevant authorities ? First it was the STAR LRT being 'underused' when I nearly died there and nobody offered their seat to me. Now it is the actual route itself.

I did send email to them and as expected, they didn't reply. :D

Even if everybody forward their opinions in this thread, I can confidently say that in the end YOUR ONE opinion would override everyone else and you would falsely report in the newspaper that this is the 'public' opinion.

Prove me wrong then !

Sukdershan
12-08-2009, 03:31 AM
Weren't you the one who says it is pointless complaining in this forum etc ?

Didn't you ask me to forward my complaints to the relevant authorities ? First it was the STAR LRT being 'underused' when I nearly died there and nobody offered their seat to me. Now it is the actual route itself.

I did send email to them and as expected, they didn't reply. :D

Even if everybody forward their opinions in this thread, I can confidently say that in the end YOUR ONE opinion would override everyone else and you would falsely report in the newspaper that this is the 'public' opinion.

Prove me wrong then !
Does the Gomen have any money left?
With the lembab economy, and the Bolehland scandals can this project be sustained (even if it is a private initiative?)

robertec
12-08-2009, 10:05 AM
I have split the postings from the original "Information of Program" thread as requested

If there is enough interest, this thread will float up to the top of the forum so there is no need to make it sticky.

AllUrban
12-08-2009, 10:18 AM
Weren't you the one who says it is pointless complaining in this forum etc ?

Didn't you ask me to forward my complaints to the relevant authorities ? First it was the STAR LRT being 'underused' when I nearly died there and nobody offered their seat to me. Now it is the actual route itself.

I did send email to them and as expected, they didn't reply. :D

Even if everybody forward their opinions in this thread, I can confidently say that in the end YOUR ONE opinion would override everyone else and you would falsely report in the newspaper that this is the 'public' opinion.

Prove me wrong then !Im sorry that you feel people do not respect your opinion. You are probably right. Or at least, you will always think that you are.

But, quite frankly I do not have to prove myself to you or anyone else. I know what I know and that is enough for me.

This discussion has a limited amount of participants, no survey, no data collection, no terms of reference or scope. So until it has all of those things, it is just people be-itching about the LRT plans or the government or whatever it might be.

I dont fault Prasarana for not listening to people who act in such a manner. Im ready to start a survey, collect data, ask for information etc. But even then, people like you will whine about the methods or be-itch about the results.

Ive been patient with you Pucman, because I like the way you think ... but if you really have something to say and you want to make a difference then say it properly instead of shooting your mouth off.

Cheers, m

JoeJaffar
12-08-2009, 04:41 PM
where's the proposed interchange station at putra heights?

chkoid
12-08-2009, 05:43 PM
Putra Heights station at Putra Point shop lot, next to Elite - Putra Heights Interchage traffic light. It is meeting point between Putra and Star lines.

By the way, any body know when is the LRT Plan to put up for Public viewing in MPSJ ?

sarawakian
12-08-2009, 11:04 PM
Personally I do not believe that the LRT will help Subang Jaya. See the plan. It shows the route and not the stations. Is this another way we get screwed just like the so called traffic easements via flyovers here and there that now when we look out the window, we see concrete?

Now, did you notice it does not go to the high density areas ie USJ1, Goodyear Court inside and Shaha Alam?

So what's the point? I think this could be another thing that sells us a story tha it is good for Subang Jaya yet it is just a pass through for the other goals to connect Puchong etc later on.

How many of us beleive this is not another prostitution of our peace? The buses have not been improved so what MAKES US THINK things will improve?

Already we have been bulldozed by developers...We want more? Think :eek:

Sparrow
11-10-2009, 09:41 AM
If there is a future link for the LRT lines from either kelana jaya or sri petaling line to Putrajaya/cyberjaya, does the current design route actually taking this into consideration? Will they link it from puchong?

patling63
11-10-2009, 12:04 PM
My guess is that the Putra Heights Interchange will be located between Restoran Anwar Maju and Bank Islam in Putra Point where ample parking space is available :)

AllUrban
13-10-2009, 03:45 PM
I wonder if this thread should be merged with the existing thread "Proposed LRT extension routing"

Cheers, m

btw you can give your feedback on the lrt to:

*Ad Hoc Committee - http://lrttosubangjaya.blogspot.com
*TRANSIT - http://transitmy.org/2009/09/15/lrt-public-display/
*DOR - lrtextensionfeedback@dor.gov.my

No word if sending the email to the DOR will be considered as official feedback.