Any Want Know About VOLVO?

[Sentinel]

Volvo recently launched the XC60, a replacement of the XC70 AWD they had. It came with a T6 3.0 litre Turbo-charged engine giving out 285 hp.

The XC90, which was voted Best SUV for many years, has only gone thru minor facelift etc. In Malaysia, they once had 2 versions, a 2.5 litre T5 and a T6 2.9 litre engine, which was mainly brought in by parallel importers.

With the launch of the XC60, I fully suspect Volvo would most likely launch a totally evamped XC90 with a new engine, the 3.0 Litre T6, the same engine they used for the XC60.

I really hope I am right coz I love the turbo-charged Volvo engine a lot. (I had an XC70 when I was working in Singapore 2006 and I really love it!).

Anyone here know if my hunch of a new XC90 with a much more powerful 3.0 Litre T6 turbo-charged engine launching soon?

Decision, decision, decision....

[bslee]

I've always had in mind is its the cheapest EU car with the most expensive parts and maintenance compared to other EU marques. Gimme a Bimmer anytime... but I think it'll remain a dream..as long as I'm still living on these shores.

[Sentinel]

I've always had in mind is its the cheapest EU car with the most expensive parts and maintenance compared to other EU marques. Gimme a Bimmer anytime... but I think it'll remain a dream..as long as I'm still living on these shores.True, its like Canon printers, cheaper but the refills kill!

The Beemer was my choice. I was seriously thinking about the X5 but the 3.0 litre engine was a disappointment... the enxt step, the X5 with the 4.7 engine would kill me with the road tax about RM11,000 per year plus the car is RM700K plus. If the price and road-tax don't kill me, my wife will when she finds out... :eek:

I like the Range Rover 4.4 Sport Supercharged too but apart from the price and the road tax, its a guzzler and worst, you can't sell it for a small fraction of the price you paid 3 - 4 years down the road...

The options are narrowed down to 2, both below RM400,000. The Lexus RX350 (wifey called this the rational choice) and the Volvo XC60 (I call this the rational choice).

But until we know whats happening to the current XC90 model, need to wait a bit longer lor...

[bslee]

Hahahah!... In my humblest opinion I'd say below Rm50K as rational on car ownership in Malaysia. Oh well, to each his own. You can, I certainly CAN'T!.

[AaronOng]

True, its like Canon printers, cheaper but the refills kill!

The Beemer was my choice. I was seriously thinking about the X5 but the 3.0 litre engine was a disappointment... the enxt step, the X5 with the 4.7 engine would kill me with the road tax about RM11,000 per year plus the car is RM700K plus. If the price and road-tax don't kill me, my wife will when she finds out... :eek:

I like the Range Rover 4.4 Sport Supercharged too but apart from the price and the road tax, its a guzzler and worst, you can't sell it for a small fraction of the price you paid 3 - 4 years down the road...

The options are narrowed down to 2, both below RM400,000. The Lexus RX350 (wifey called this the rational choice) and the Volvo XC60 (I call this the rational choice).

But until we know whats happening to the current XC90 model, need to wait a bit longer lor...


WTH????? Road tax already 11k? Maintenance macamana? How much just to change brake pads? RM5K? 6K? 3k only??? Wahhh very cheap lah!

For the life of me I just don't get why people would want to have a 3.0 or even 4.7 engine. Can they go 300kmh on the highway legally? Or do they want to tow a fully loaded 10 tonne home trailer on a daily basis?

Don't get me wrong... Volvo's a great car but not only does it burn a hole in your pocket, it'll burn the whole pocket too...

If I have RM400K lying under the bed, I'll get myself a 2nd hand Cessna 172 and fly you guys for lunch in Medan.

"Subang Ground, this is Niner Mike, Romeo Mike Zulu, Cessna, 4 Papa Oscar Bravo, direct to Medan as filed. request permission for take off.

"Mike Zulu, Subang Ground, taxi to and hold short Runway 33. Contact Tower on 118 .2 when ready."

"Subang Tower, Mike Zulu, ready for takeoff, request clearance for takeoff on Runway 33, north departure. "

"Mike Zulu, Subang Tower, You are cleared for takeoff on Runway 33, maintain runway heading as filed.

"Subang Tower, Mike Zulu, cleared for takeoff Runway 33, maintain runway heading.

Flaps 5, FULL THROTTLE!!!!

[Fang Su]

Hahahah!... In my humblest opinion I'd say below Rm50K as rational on car ownership in Malaysia. Oh well, to each his own. You can, I certainly CAN'T!.

Humble and down to earth. A car does not make a man but unfortunately there are people who seem to think so.

[USJ27Resident]

"Subang Tower, Mike Zulu, cleared for takeoff Runway 33, maintain runway heading.

Flaps 5, FULL THROTTLE!!!!

hey.hey... we've got here a fly guy... and he sure knows his runway headings!! :D

[Sentinel]

Yah... and I am sure he will use the Janda Baik airstrip once a while... cheap and good and can meet fellow fly guys for a teh tarek next to the strip, no need pay landing or parking fees.

[cskok8]

I thought somebody wanted to buy over Volvo Car Company. Last I heard, Ford was trying to sell. :D

[AaronOng]

Yah... and I am sure he will use the Janda Baik airstrip once a while... cheap and good and can meet fellow fly guys for a teh tarek next to the strip, no need pay landing or parking fees.


But must ask for permission mahhhh... who to call ah?

Pangkor airstrip is nice, but very short, not for the faint hearted. And the landing charges quite cheap. But try not to fly over the Navy base during approach. Don't want to get shot at by anti-aircraft guns.

[Sentinel]

WTH????? Road tax already 11k? Maintenance macamana? How much just to change brake pads? RM5K? 6K? 3k only??? Wahhh very cheap lah!

For the life of me I just don't get why people would want to have a 3.0 or even 4.7 engine. Can they go 300kmh on the highway legally? Or do they want to tow a fully loaded 10 tonne home trailer on a daily basis?

Don't get me wrong... Volvo's a great car but not only does it burn a hole in your pocket, it'll burn the whole pocket too...

If I have RM400K lying under the bed, I'll get myself a 2nd hand Cessna 172 and fly you guys for lunch in Medan.

"Subang Ground, this is Niner Mike, Romeo Mike Zulu, Cessna, 4 Papa Oscar Bravo, direct to Medan as filed. request permission for take off.

"Mike Zulu, Subang Ground, taxi to and hold short Runway 33. Contact Tower on 118 .2 when ready."

"Subang Tower, Mike Zulu, ready for takeoff, request clearance for takeoff on Runway 33, north departure. "

"Mike Zulu, Subang Tower, You are cleared for takeoff on Runway 33, maintain runway heading as filed.

"Subang Tower, Mike Zulu, cleared for takeoff Runway 33, maintain runway heading.

Flaps 5, FULL THROTTLE!!!!
Same thing Aaron, why would I want a Cessna for? I am sure its love of flying and freedom for you but its the same for me with cars and bike, I love the power and the speed too... too bad some low down slobs seem to think that cars are show-offs and to make a complete man. No wonder he is such a lonely man and keep coming back into the forum with different nicks and trying to make friends.. pordahlah!

[Sentinel]

But must ask for permission mahhhh... who to call ah?

Pangkor airstrip is nice, but very short, not for the faint hearted. And the landing charges quite cheap. But try not to fly over the Navy base during approach. Don't want to get shot at by anti-aircraft guns.I will PM the "Captain's" name to you... oh, need to contribute RM125 per year for upkeep and to run the teh tarek / nasi lemak stall yah. :D

[Fang Su]

The logic of worldly success rests on a fallacy: the strange error that our perfection depends on the thoughts and opinions and applause of other men. A weird life it is, indeed, to be living always in somebody else's imagination, as if that were the only place in which one could at last become real. The advantage of doing one's praising to oneself is that one can lay it on so thick and exactly in the right places.

A man desires praise that he may be reassured, that he may be quit of his doubting of himself,

[AaronOng]

Tks.

I'm also considering rotary wing instruction but at 4-5 k per hour, that's way out of my league.

[AaronOng]

The logic of worldly success rests on a fallacy: the strange error that our perfection depends on the thoughts and opinions and applause of other men. A weird life it is, indeed, to be living always in somebody else's imagination, as if that were the only place in which one could at last become real. The advantage of doing one's praising to oneself is that one can lay it on so thick and exactly in the right places.

A man desires praise that he may be reassured, that he may be quit of his doubting of himself,


Your short essay is very very suitable for those titled persons, those whose face you see gracing the inside pages of our honored MSMs. Congratulations of becoming a Datuk, Tan Sri, etc etc. I mean its okay if they were to foot the huge bills for the adverts but no....

I once was asked to contribute $$$$$ for just such messages. I ignored the letter but did send a congratulatory card to him. Funnily I never address him by his new title but a plain mister. He was a bit miffed at first but he got used to it and has never complained.

I mean.... firstly, for sure he's not my grandfather... and secondly, I didn't give him the title.

[Fang Su]

Your short essay is very very suitable for those titled persons, those whose face you see gracing the inside pages of our honored MSMs. Congratulations of becoming a Datuk, Tan Sri, etc etc. I mean its okay if they were to foot the huge bills for the adverts but no....

I once was asked to contribute $$$$$ for just such messages. I ignored the letter but did send a congratulatory card to him. Funnily I never address him by his new title but a plain mister. He was a bit miffed at first but he got used to it and has never complained.

I mean.... firstly, for sure he's not my grandfather... and secondly, I didn't give him the title.

Yes. You are right. I agree with you. Humans are such incredible creatures, aren't they? They need ressurances to re-enforce their own self-assurance to make themselves men and women of this world.

[AaronOng]

Volvo recently launched the XC60, a replacement of the XC70 AWD they had. It came with a T6 3.0 litre Turbo-charged engine giving out 285 hp.

The XC90, which was voted Best SUV for many years, has only gone thru minor facelift etc. In Malaysia, they once had 2 versions, a 2.5 litre T5 and a T6 2.9 litre engine, which was mainly brought in by parallel importers.

With the launch of the XC60, I fully suspect Volvo would most likely launch a totally evamped XC90 with a new engine, the 3.0 Litre T6, the same engine they used for the XC60.

I really hope I am right coz I love the turbo-charged Volvo engine a lot. (I had an XC70 when I was working in Singapore 2006 and I really love it!).

Anyone here know if my hunch of a new XC90 with a much more powerful 3.0 Litre T6 turbo-charged engine launching soon?

Decision, decision, decision....

Hokayyyyyy..... back to original post.... I must admit I do not know a lot about Volvo cars.

Before i bought my current Persona, I was interested and had wanted to buy an old S40, costs about 60k also.

Though it was affordable further inquiries have made me think twice. Maintenance costs for instance.

I salute Volvorians not because they could afford to buy such cars but that they could afford its upkeep.

Perhaps many years down the road I can afford to drive an XC60 when its value has reached down to a more affordable level.

[AaronOng]

Whats the estimated FC of a 3lt XC90?

[AaronOng]

Hokayyyyyy..... back to original post.... I must admit I do not know a lot about Volvo cars.

Before i bought my current Persona, I was interested and had wanted to buy an old S40, costs about 60k also.

Though it was affordable further inquiries have made me think twice. Maintenance costs for instance.

I salute Volvorians not because they could afford to buy such cars but that they could afford its upkeep.

Perhaps many years down the road I can afford to drive an XC60 when its value has reached down to a more affordable level.

Up to April this year I had a plain Wira. I spent an average of 1k per year on it on maintenance. But I do clock about 40 k a year as I travel widely. So what the maintenance costs for a XC60 assuming same type of use?

[kwchang]

...A car does not make a man but unfortunately there are people who seem to think so...

Fang Su is obviously stalking Sentinel and picking on his thread directly - this I say is deserving of a banana for "stalking and harassment".

If someone posts his personal likes or dislikes, it is his personal opinion. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. If you do not like the tone of his post, just ignore and go elsewhere.

Fang Su broke a few rules -

2a No attacks, threats, insults, name-calling or inflamed speech for the sake of argument.
2b Personal arguments must be carried out away from the public discussion forum and dealt with in private
2d Posts that are inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, sexually oriented, threatening, rude, mean, nasty, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law are not permitted

One banana is not enough, hence he had been banned for a period to cool off.

Sentinel on the other hand fell into this trap by making a direct statement against Fang Su's comment above

... too bad some low down slobs seem to think that cars are show-offs and to make a complete man. and in the process violated a rule himself

2a No attacks, threats, insults, name-calling or inflamed speech for the sake of argument.

Banana given

[Sentinel]

The logic of worldly success rests on a fallacy: the strange error that our perfection depends on the thoughts and opinions and applause of other men. A weird life it is, indeed, to be living always in somebody else's imagination, as if that were the only place in which one could at last become real. The advantage of doing one's praising to oneself is that one can lay it on so thick and exactly in the right places.

A man desires praise that he may be reassured, that he may be quit of his doubting of himself,
Fang Su a.k.a. Jose Mourinho... keep the preaching and your values to yourself. When you were posting as Jose Mourinho and many other nicks you have used, you have already proven yourself to be not what you're trying to make other forumers think you are. Stop all these gesticulations and keep it to yourself for all I care but you are trying to derail this thread and attacking all other forumers whom have crossed your path before, good try...

Keep the value to yourself, you need it more.

[kwchang]

Fang Su a.k.a. Jose Mourinho....
Just a short reminder if anyone had forgotten.... I do not care whom a nick is/was. Everyone of the nicks are treated equally and given bananas on a need basis. Anyone can declare himself to be the former USJ Jose. I have nothing against anyone of you outside the Forum. If I met the man/girl behind the nick, I will shake your hand and wish you well because you are my neighbour. Let us not carry the virtual identities and virtual misdemeanors into our real world. If I did that, I would have no reality.

USJ dot com is a fun, informative place - so do not let identities bother you. Life is too short.

[SingaporeEhSai!]

related to topic, New RX class lexus have been released in Spore, did not check out the price yet though..an ex collegue of mine is a Volvo for life kinda guy...s40,then s60 then xc70..

[Sentinel]

related to topic, New RX class lexus have been released in Spore, did not check out the price yet though..an ex collegue of mine is a Volvo for life kinda guy...s40,then s60 then xc70..
The strange thing is Volvos in Singapore are CBUs and priced at 2/3 of what we pay here for CKDs...

[AaronOng]

Wahhhhhh... Volvo must be very happy to have a customer like your friend. Sing.

I wish I can be a Volvorian too and I know its a 99% safe car, only if they tone down a bit on the maintenance costs thingy.

How much is a XC90 these days and what are its major features?

[AaronOng]

hey.hey... we've got here a fly guy... and he sure knows his runway headings!! :D

Sorry off topic.

Uniform Sierra Juliet Two Seven.... you a fly guy??? Over...

[Rhiga]

I always like VOLVO compare to other high-end continental cars. Reasons are – low profile, good car and don’t belong to those “flamboyant” beemer and benze owners. :D

I think one thing to watch-out – a small (internationally) Chinese automaker is seriously wanted to acquire VOLVO from Ford.

If it happens, it will spoil a bit of the joy of owning a VOLVO.

[AaronOng]

Agree with you Saga, hence my interest in the S40

Is or isn't Volvo currently being assembled in China, like Beemers + Mercs??

[Rhiga]

Automaker will assemble a car in a country when:
1. the volume reach economic of scale i.e. it is more cost-effective to produce locally.
2. To comply with the local policy such as to meet the local component content level, local equity participation.
3. To avoid excessive local protection in the form of taxes

I am not sure whether VOLVO assembles their car in China. Gut feel, I don’t see many VOLVO there (Shanghai and Beijing).

Cheers

[bslee]

I am not sure whether VOLVO assembles their car in China. Gut feel, I don’t see many VOLVO there (Shanghai and Beijing).

Reminds me of many manufacturers of various foreign brands who have mass production factories like electronics, its not evident of those items widely snapped up or sold within mainland China. Most are for export anyhow.
Here is bizarre...Proton for home market, bugged with problems, protected by gahmen, even then cold customer confidence and can't really satisfy local market, morever resting on their laurels in good times, and they've been hoping for a great export potential... Malaysia Boleh!.. Sorry if I've gone OT...but all relative.
Back to Volvo, I still vividly remember their best selling 2XX series of the 80's, tank build, but never never liked the not so smooth rocking engine and heavy consumption. Worth peanuts now. I remember how blardi expensive the spare parts were back then...more expensive than Beemer and Benze, and those prices are from specialized Volvo parts parallel importers.

[Sentinel]

Sorry off topic.

Uniform Sierra Juliet Two Seven.... you a fly guy??? Over...
So seriously guys, before this thread get derailed again, does anyone know if Volvo is coming out with a nex XC90?

[SingaporeEhSai!]

ot a bit, saw the XC60 on road today...very sweet looking...

[Sentinel]

ot a bit, saw the XC60 on road today...very sweet looking...
Tested the car... good but a crossover is still a crossover... but the 3.0 litre T6 Turbo engine was really responsive. I am looking forward to Volvo putting this new T6 engine into a real SUV like the XC90... not in a crossover.

[mikoloh]

Aaron,

Yr radio call is near perfect...but i didnt see any POBs

[VictorII]

Think twice and maybe many times again b4 U buy another Volvo.
Many of the components are of poor quality and cannot withstand this climate and conditions. Components break down very frequently and worst it cost a BOMB! I quote for example a ABS brake control unit can cost about RM20K. Some other components can cost even higher. Maintenance is extremely high for Volvo cars due to very frequent breakdown of components.
Normal service maintenance is never cheap either costing anything from RM300 to RM 2000++!!! And God help you if you happen to be in Kelantan, Trengganu or Kuantan (Whole of East Coast) or even in East Malaysia (Sabah & Sarawak) There are no original service dealers or genuine spare parts in these places. Federal Auto closed all their branches there long time ago.
Service provided by the local Volvo dealers are poor and not up to mark and obviously very expensive. Better to go for another brand - Mercedes , BMW or others..............................

[Sentinel]

Think twice and maybe many times again b4 U buy another Volvo.
Many of the components are of poor quality and cannot withstand this climate and conditions. Components break down very frequently and worst it cost a BOMB! I quote for example a ABS brake control unit can cost about RM20K. Some other components can cost even higher. Maintenance is extremely high for Volvo cars due to very frequent breakdown of components.
Normal service maintenance is never cheap either costing anything from RM300 to RM 2000++!!! And God help you if you happen to be in Kelantan, Trengganu or Kuantan (Whole of East Coast) or even in East Malaysia (Sabah & Sarawak) There are no original service dealers or genuine spare parts in these places. Federal Auto closed all their branches there long time ago.
Service provided by the local Volvo dealers are poor and not up to mark and obviously very expensive. Better to go for another brand - Mercedes , BMW or others..............................I agree.. the 'war' in the early 2000s between Swedish Marques, Federal Auto and Volvo Cars Malaysia (VCM) on distributorship issues almost destroyed the brand in Malaysia. Maybe I have been lucky. I owned an XC70 in Singapore in 2006 and when I came back, I bought a used one which was a few yrs older (there was no new ones anymore in Malaysia) and I have not had the problems you mentioned. I guess I will just have to be careful before deciding... anyway whats your opinion of a VW Touareg?

[jan tomaswaki]

I agree.. the 'war' in the early 2000s between Swedish Marques, Federal Auto and Volvo Cars Malaysia (VCM) on distributorship issues almost destroyed the brand in Malaysia. Maybe I have been lucky. I owned an XC70 in Singapore in 2006 and when I came back, I bought a used one which was a few yrs older (there was no new ones anymore in Malaysia) and I have not had the problems you mentioned. I guess I will just have to be careful before deciding... anyway whats your opinion of a VW Touareg?
As long as your car is a continental one it's means you are rich,so no problem mesti ada wang punya.That's the mentality of malaysians!I once own a Citreon wagon it cost me RM10,000 to service the car for 3 years!Anyway it's engine oil is 5 litres, so have to buy 2 4 litres of syntheic oil......

[VictorII]

I owned a T5 before. No complaint on performance but the frequent repairs and high cost of maintenance service at Federal Auto costs me a small fortune. I would not consider another Volvo again.

[Sentinel]

As long as your car is a continental one it's means you are rich,so no problem mesti ada wang punya.That's the mentality of malaysians!I once own a Citreon wagon it cost me RM10,000 to service the car for 3 years!Anyway it's engine oil is 5 litres, so have to buy 2 4 litres of syntheic oil......You can't blame Malaysian motorists. I once bought a used BMW740iL (1998 model) for only RM18,000 and used it without any problem for 4-5 years. Everyone thought I was rich but they were wrong. I just loved the car and for the price, why not? The road tax was about RM6,000 per year so after 5 years, the total cost of a BMW740iL was just RM48,000... cheaper than a Wira... and I had so much fun with it... I sold the car for RM12,000 so the net cost was RM36,000!

Many Malaysians treat their cars as a need for transport, not as a hobby or anything like that. So, price, maintenance, consumption, road tax and residual second-hand value play important roles.

Very few are irrational when it comes to cars, I am one sucker for cars... but looking at the number of BMW M3 being sold now, the trend is changing...

[Sentinel]

I owned a T5 before. No complaint on performance but the frequent repairs and high cost of maintenance service at Federal Auto costs me a small fortune. I would not consider another Volvo again.Thanks for the feedback... my love for Volvo even goes back to a 1964 Volvo P1800 I restored back in mid-90s. Thats the car used by The Saint (Roger Moore).

[shthang]

I guess I will just have to be careful before deciding... anyway whats your opinion of a VW Touareg?
In my view, Tuareg is better. This SUV is manufactured at the same plant that producing Porshe Cayenne. Except the exterior design and pricing, both SUVs are nearly the same in terms of engine, transmissions and other technical specs. Tuareg pricing is RM420k and PC doubles that.

Undoubtedly XC90 is a great SUV but I am concerns on the resale value of the vehicle and the unclear direction of this co is heading.

[AaronOng]

Think twice and maybe many times again b4 U buy another Volvo.
Many of the components are of poor quality and cannot withstand this climate and conditions. Components break down very frequently and worst it cost a BOMB! I quote for example a ABS brake control unit can cost about RM20K. Some other components can cost even higher. Maintenance is extremely high for Volvo cars due to very frequent breakdown of components.
Normal service maintenance is never cheap either costing anything from RM300 to RM 2000++!!! And God help you if you happen to be in Kelantan, Trengganu or Kuantan (Whole of East Coast) or even in East Malaysia (Sabah & Sarawak) There are no original service dealers or genuine spare parts in these places. Federal Auto closed all their branches there long time ago.
Service provided by the local Volvo dealers are poor and not up to mark and obviously very expensive. Better to go for another brand - Mercedes , BMW or others..............................

20k for a brake control unit? OMG!

Thta's why I admire people who drive Volvo, not because they can afford to buy one but that they could afford to maintain one.

[Sentinel]

In my view, Tuareg is better. This SUV is manufactured at the same plant that producing Porshe Cayenne. Except the exterior design and pricing, both SUVs are nearly the same in terms of engine, transmissions and other technical specs. Tuareg pricing is RM420k and PC doubles that.

Undoubtedly XC90 is a great SUV but I am concerns on the resale value of the vehicle and the unclear direction of this co is heading.
Thanx shthang.

There are only 3 models of the SUV in this class which are priced below RM400K i.e. the VW Touareg 3.6, the Volvo XC and of course the highly popular Lexus RX350. Both the Touareg and the Lexus are 6-cyclinder engines while the Volvo XC90 is a T5 engine. In my opinion the one that has residual second-hand value is the Lexus RX350 simply because its has a Toyota DNA whilst the rest are continental.

One more in this class which has relative good second-hand value is the Mercedes ML350 but the price is around RM548K....

Latest breaking news from Bloomberg reported that Sweden is considering selling off Volvo....

[cskok8]

I thought Volvo car division is owned by Ford. Maybe you are talking about the Volvo commercial vehicle division.

How much are they selling for??

[Sentinel]

I thought Volvo car division is owned by Ford. Maybe you are talking about the Volvo commercial vehicle division.

How much are they selling for??I really am caught here my friend coz I can't answer your question. I saw the news flash float across several times at the bottom of the screen and it just says... "Sweden mulls sales of Volvo..." and that was yesterday's Bloomberg show around 6.00pm local time....

Maybe you're right, maybe its just the Truck Division or maybe even just the marine engine division (Volvo Penta)...

[shthang]

There are only 3 models of the SUV in this class which are priced below RM400K i.e. the VW Touareg 3.6

OTR price for brand new Touareg shud be around RM420-RM430k. For me, my heart will tell me to go for Touareg for its performance and value but my mind will advise me otherwise to select Lexus RX350 due to its reliability and resale value. I used to own Lexus RX300 few yrs ago. It's a good SUV but VW is better. Whatever decision you take, ensure you get the clearance from your "home minister". Happy wife happy life, agree? :D :D

[Sentinel]

OTR price for brand new Touareg shud be around RM420-RM430k. For me, my heart will tell me to go for Touareg for its performance and value but my mind will advise me otherwise to select Lexus RX350 due to its reliability and resale value. I used to own Lexus RX300 few yrs ago. It's a good SUV but VW is better. Whatever decision you take, ensure you get the clearance from your "home minister". Happy wife happy life, agree? :D :D
The way out of this dilemma my friend, is to let her choose the colour of her "C-Class 230" first. Then, when she is happy with the car... you go out and buy yours lah... ha ha ha! Just in case, throw in a brand new front-loader Electrolux and a voucher to some facial program at Leonard Drake... old trick lah...

Your RX300... was there any problem at all? I scored it tops in terms of reliability, second-hand value, comfort but my guess is there is no ooomph in a Japanese SUV, right? I am now driving a Pajero 3500 3-door Sports, tadak ooomph lah...

[shthang]

The way out of this dilemma my friend, is to let her choose the colour of her "C-Class 230" first. Then, when she is happy with the car... you go out and buy yours lah... ha ha ha! Just in case, throw in a brand new front-loader Electrolux and a voucher to some facial program at Leonard Drake... old trick lah...

Your RX300... was there any problem at all? I scored it tops in terms of reliability, second-hand value, comfort but my guess is there is no ooomph in a Japanese SUV, right? I am now driving a Pajero 3500 3-door Sports, tadak ooomph lah...

I was using RX300 for 3.5 yrs when i was working in HK. Cars are cheaper there due to lower tax. New imported RX300 with full specs was selling at RM180k and the resale value is good due to high demand. In my opinion, RX300 was only good for urban and highway driving and will lose out to the continental SUVs on slope and off road.

RM400k is a lot of money to many ppl and you need to think over and over again before making a wise decision. Good luck to you! :)

[Sentinel]

I was using RX300 for 3.5 yrs when i was working in HK. Cars are cheaper there due to lower tax. New imported RX300 with full specs was selling at RM180k and the resale value is good due to high demand. In my opinion, RX300 was only good for urban and highway driving and will lose out to the continental SUVs on slope and off road.

RM400k is a lot of money to many ppl and you need to think over and over again before making a wise decision. Good luck to you! :)I know Sir. Like you, the head says stick to the Pajero 3500SE for another year or so and see what happens to the hang cheng... but the heart is saying go take a drive round the country and enjoy the sights while the economy is in a slump...

And I don't mind telling you the heart keeps going back to the Range Rover Supercharged....

[PJS]

Ford Volvo Car Sale Likely Later in 2009, Sweden Says

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ag_pJ.iH.W30

Ford will suffer big losses in selling Volvo. They may even consider selling to Geely the Chinese car maker. So we'd be driving Volvo's with a/c control menu in Chinese simplified characters. Hahaha

On another note, Porsche Cayenne seems to be very popular in KL these days!

But if you're still keen on Lexus hybrid is the way to go --- RX450H :p

http://www.lexus.com/models/RXh/?s_ocid=30710

Please go GREEN so that you don't produce excessive exhaust fumes to pollute the green island I call home. :D

[Sentinel]

On the subject of a Hybrid Lexus RX450H, unless the Malaysian government wakes up and do something in terms of import duties and excise duties and road tax and providing facilities for Hybrid cars, there is no incentive for people to switch unless its a personal choice....

Minister of Transport still busy shadow-boxing with PKFZ fiasco and his Deputy President Chua Soi Lek so no time to give any thought to Hybrid and the environment.... :D

[Richard Poh]

dont know why people are bother with this thing. the name itself also like sh#t....no stlye ,no design ....engine sounds like a tank in old war movies.
Under the hot Malaysia Sun, from afar it looks like a Oven. !

[Sentinel]

Turbocharged 6-cylinder 3,000 cc engine sounds like an old war tank? Voted best SUV for so many years look like an oven? You are obviously stuck in the Volvo 144 era....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1VNvatxa40&feature=channel

Volvo produced the highly-popular P1800S way back in 1962... it was one of the greatest car ever produced more than half a century ago. The car made more popular as it was driven by Simon Templar (Roger Moore) in the TV series The Saint...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04DYTwB9BX4

[Richard Poh]

Turbocharged 6-cylinder 3,000 cc engine sounds like an old war tank? Voted best SUV for so many years look like an oven? You are obviously stuck in the Volvo 144 era....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1VNvatxa40&feature=channel

Volvo produced the highly-popular P1800S way back in 1962... it was one of the greatest car ever produced more than half a century ago. The car made more popular as it was driven by Simon Templar (Roger Moore) in the TV series The Saint...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04DYTwB9BX4

Wow ....very true . But I still hate it . ok the name only .sorry. !

[Sentinel]

Wow ....very true . But I still hate it . ok the name only .sorry. !
No apologies required, its a personal view. Glad I could share their advancements with you and the rest though...

[AaronOng]

If not for the fact that maintenance cost for Volvos is at skyhigh level, I'd have bought one, albeit an entry level model.

[Sentinel]

OTR price for brand new Touareg shud be around RM420-RM430k. For me, my heart will tell me to go for Touareg for its performance and value but my mind will advise me otherwise to select Lexus RX350 due to its reliability and resale value. I used to own Lexus RX300 few yrs ago. It's a good SUV but VW is better. Whatever decision you take, ensure you get the clearance from your "home minister". Happy wife happy life, agree? :D :D
This video on the Touareg reminds me of my little Golf GTI... and I have booked for a test drive of the Touareg next week, they only have 1 test car... I am sure I will like it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN_sZh6XiLM

[shthang]

Great man! Test car in KL or Penang?

Beware - one little bird may not be happy when flying over the usj.com's nest and hear us talking about great inventions here. :D

[Sentinel]

Great man! Test car in KL or Penang?

Beware - one little bird may not be happy when flying over the usj.com's nest and hear us talking about great inventions here. :DTesting in Penang, they are bringing the car in from Juru Auto City...

The little bird has got herself a facial package from Leonard Drake for 26 weeks plus a nice Coach purse...

[BMW9700]

my 2 choices would be 1) The Audi Q5 and 2) The BMW X1...well worth waiting for both...prices should be in the below 300k category..of course the Q5 is the winner....

regards

[Sentinel]

my 2 choices would be 1) The Audi Q5 and 2) The BMW X1...well worth waiting for both...prices should be in the below 300k category..of course the Q5 is the winner....

regardsBUT between the Volvo XC60 and the Touareg... ceteris paribus which would you pick as a better drive?

[PJS]

Good news Sentinel, u can forget about the puny Volvo.

The Hummer H2 is here!

Just saw 2 units of H2 and a H3 on display at 1Utama today, totally awesome. :D It huge ladder frame looks like the size of a H beam you'd use for a high rise, and dwarfs even a 10 ton lorry's frame. This thing looks like it can go through a landmine effortlessly.

They're sold by USF Selections which has their showroom at Bdr Utama, next to McD & Centerpoint. Go for it man! Prices starts from seven hundred and fifty Large Ones and above. Not too much more than an X5 and probably cheaper than an X6. :D

[Sentinel]

Good news Sentinel, u can forget about the puny Volvo.

The Hummer H2 is here!

Just saw 2 units of H2 and a H3 on display at 1Utama today, totally awesome. :D It huge ladder frame looks like the size of a H beam you'd use for a high rise, and dwarfs even a 10 ton lorry's frame. This thing looks like it can go through a landmine effortlessly.

They're sold by USF Selections which has their showroom at Bdr Utama, next to McD & Centerpoint. Go for it man! Prices starts from seven hundred and fifty Large Ones and above. Not too much more than an X5 and probably cheaper than an X6. :D
The problem with the Hummer is the place where I am staying .... Batu Ferringhi. The winding coastal road is extremely narrow at many stretches and a German neighbor who had one sold it because everytime there is a bus or a lorry coming from the opposite direction, either one has to slow down or stop for the other to pass...

I would love a Hummer just for 'playing' with the Mat Rempits.... :D

[uchangeng]

I once had the opportunity to own a Volve 840 from my company. After driving it a week, I live to tell you what I went thru with the car:

Air-con. At 100 Km/hr. No air-con. Only hot air. Last month, after 10 years, while in Europe, my friend drove me in his Volve, same problem, at 120Km/hr, no air-con. But at 160Km/hr, the cool air comes back!

Wind screen wiper. Short and noisy, completely useless in a typical Malaysian down pour!

Roof. Water leaking in heavy rain. I got wet feet!

Dash board and upholstery that deformed and peel-off under the hot sun.

Steering wheel. The plastic peels and disintegragted.

The doors. Cannot be closed properly, resulting in terrible wind noise.

Door letch at the inside. Watch out! it is so profound that a child's small hand can easily get caught inside and accidently pull it, cause the door to open!

The body color that discolor within the 1st 2 years.

It drives like a tank, poor suspension!

Petrol guzzler when speed exceeds 130 Km/hr..

Spare parts and service. No one know how to service the car except "experts" at the Federal Auto Workshop in PJ and there is the only one in the KLang valley that I know off. I drove the car back to my village in Kedah once and the car dash board show a red light signalling service required. Dung! I had to drive the car all the way to Alor Star to service and the mechanics had to go all the way to Butterworth to get the ori spare part. Imagine, the cost and the time!

I really hope Volve improve because I still like the CX60 SUV and considering buying one!

:eek:

[BMW9700]

BUT between the Volvo XC60 and the Touareg... ceteris paribus which would you pick as a better drive?


i would definitely choose the toureg to answer your question...i am a hard core bmw man...but planning to get the Audi Q5 but there is a 10 month waiting period...

[Sentinel]

I once had the opportunity to own a Volve 840 from my company. After driving it a week, I live to tell you what I went thru with the car:

Air-con. At 100 Km/hr. No air-con. Only hot air. Last month, after 10 years, while in Europe, my friend drove me in his Volve, same problem, at 120Km/hr, no air-con. But at 160Km/hr, the cool air comes back!

Wind screen wiper. Short and noisy, completely useless in a typical Malaysian down pour!

Roof. Water leaking in heavy rain. I got wet feet!

Dash board and upholstery that deformed and peel-off under the hot sun.

Steering wheel. The plastic peels and disintegragted.

The doors. Cannot be closed properly, resulting in terrible wind noise.

Door letch at the inside. Watch out! it is so profound that a child's small hand can easily get caught inside and accidently pull it, cause the door to open!

The body color that discolor within the 1st 2 years.

It drives like a tank, poor suspension!

Petrol guzzler when speed exceeds 130 Km/hr..

Spare parts and service. No one know how to service the car except "experts" at the Federal Auto Workshop in PJ and there is the only one in the KLang valley that I know off. I drove the car back to my village in Kedah once and the car dash board show a red light signalling service required. Dung! I had to drive the car all the way to Alor Star to service and the mechanics had to go all the way to Butterworth to get the ori spare part. Imagine, the cost and the time!

I really hope Volve improve because I still like the CX60 SUV and considering buying one!

:eek:
Seriously my friend, the way you wrote about your bad experience with the 840 (did you mean 850?) I think you shouldn't even think about the XC60....

[Sentinel]

i would definitely choose the toureg to answer your question...i am a hard core bmw man...but planning to get the Audi Q5 but there is a 10 month waiting period...OK. I can see from your nick you're a beemer fan. Is the X5 3.0 litre underpowered? Or should one just throw away rationale and follow the heart and go for the 4.8 litre?

[SingaporeEhSai!]

add a bit more and get the Cayenne... :D Salivating for the GTS.... :p

[BMW9700]

OK. I can see from your nick you're a beemer fan. Is the X5 3.0 litre underpowered? Or should one just throw away rationale and follow the heart and go for the 4.8 litre?


yes the x5 3.0 would seem to feel underpowered..the gearing is different for the suv and will not feel like the sedans..the530i which uses the same engine feels much faster

however the x5 is a very good suv..comfortable and a good long distance cruiser..top end power is also good


the 4.8 is just too costly, including the rtax


regards

[Sentinel]

So, its back to Touareg or RX350 lah....

Or compromise in the middle with the Mercedes ML350....

Rationale vs adrenaline... hehe...

[lly]

So, its back to Touareg or RX350 lah....

Or compromise in the middle with the Mercedes ML350....

Rationale vs adrenaline... hehe...
Wish I have this "problem" to resolve :)

[AaronOng]

Good news Sentinel, u can forget about the puny Volvo.

The Hummer H2 is here!

Just saw 2 units of H2 and a H3 on display at 1Utama today, totally awesome. :D It huge ladder frame looks like the size of a H beam you'd use for a high rise, and dwarfs even a 10 ton lorry's frame. This thing looks like it can go through a landmine effortlessly.

They're sold by USF Selections which has their showroom at Bdr Utama, next to McD & Centerpoint. Go for it man! Prices starts from seven hundred and fifty Large Ones and above. Not too much more than an X5 and probably cheaper than an X6. :D


The Hummer looks nice, yes, but not suited to Malaysian roads. Even if you drive it in the jungle trails, I think even the puny Suzuki win hands down. Its too wide lah. I used to drive the SJ410 and this Land Cruiser in front of me always had a lot of difficulty negotiating narrow trails. Worse was one time when we had to drive along a narrow ledge on a mountain side. I can really see his wheels was only 4-6 inches from a dangerous drop off the cliff and his wing mirror was scraping the mountain side. If a Land Cruiser can barely make it, the Hummer surely cannot lah. But things are reversed when we are talking about broad open space, like a desert.

[shthang]

Latest news : China company will buy Hummer from General Motor. Still want to buy Hummer? :D

http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/cars/100156797-1-tengzhong-says-close-hummer-deal.html

[Sentinel]

Latest news : China company will buy Hummer from General Motor. Still want to buy Hummer? :D

http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/cars/100156797-1-tengzhong-says-close-hummer-deal.htmlSo are the Audis my friend... and soon all the Touaregs too...

[gtl]

VW wud be my choice.

X6 looks weird.
XC60 not as handsome as XC90

[Sentinel]

VW wud be my choice.

X6 looks weird.
XC60 not as handsome as XC90
Someone told me if you choose VW Touareg, its safer because the car jackers not interested in you. If you pick up a Lexus RX350, be ready to be car jacked... ha ha ha!

[SingaporeEhSai!]

3 of my close friends got their Harrier stolen from their car porch in KL few years ago...

[PJS]

The Hummer looks nice, yes, but not suited to Malaysian roads. Even if you drive it in the jungle trails, I think even the puny Suzuki win hands down. Its too wide lah. I used to drive the SJ410 and this Land Cruiser in front of me always had a lot of difficulty negotiating narrow trails. Worse was one time when we had to drive along a narrow ledge on a mountain side. I can really see his wheels was only 4-6 inches from a dangerous drop off the cliff and his wing mirror was scraping the mountain side. If a Land Cruiser can barely make it, the Hummer surely cannot lah. But things are reversed when we are talking about broad open space, like a desert.

The Hummer is a SUV, more suited to cruising the streets and light to medium duty off-roading. Land Rovers and to some extend, Suzuki SJ410 Jimny are more suitable for more serious off-roading in tight trails due to their short wheelbase. Hummer's sheer weight an size is it's handicap.

To compare offroad vehicles, then u have to compare the military Land Rovers vs old retired military Jeeps vs High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV or Humvee) which is the original form that the civilian Hummers 'mutated' from. :D

[PJS]

3 of my close friends got their Harrier stolen from their car porch in KL few years ago...

A neighbour's Harrier was carjacked at gunpoint few years ago! :eek:

[SingaporeEhSai!]

must change the title to CARS CARS CARS already.... :D

[Sentinel]

Over the past 2 weeks, I have test-driven the Volvo XC60 and comparing it to the Touareg and RX350. The RX350 was smooth, like driving a car man, maybe thats why I am not so keen coz it doesn't have the ooomph factor...

The Touareg was the outright winner. The one VW let me have for 2 days (I used 1 tank of fuel lah... :D ) was a 3.6 engine, it was superb lah in terms of acceleartion and power. The road-holding was like driving the Golf GTI lah... The sales rep told me there is 4.2 V8 engine version but that will need to place order and wait for 4-6 months from date of order.... aiyoh, I can imagine the 4.2 V8... this 3.6 V6 already pumping 275 hp....

The Volvo XC60 drove well, spacious and the turbocharged 3.0 litre T6 engine was responsive..

Now, I am in a dilemma again.... between the Touareg 3.6 V6, the XC60 and added another headache the 4.2 V8 Touareg... life is tough man!

[bslee]

Get a Bimmer Z4.... you'll look good in it? :)

[Sentinel]

Get a Bimmer Z4.... you'll look good in it? :)What is this man BS. You are supposed to be my good buddy and you are putting ideas.... if you want to look at the Z4, go for the M-power version, the Z4M, only problem its 75% more than the ordinary Z4! But its not suitable for Amber, her legs are too long :D ... a Porsche Boxster would suit her better... any kind-hearted generous offer out there? :D

[cskok8]

Who is Amber?

[Sentinel]

Who is Amber?Many a gentleman's dream girl. Google lah...

[Sentinel]

Anybody know if the Volvo XC is going to be a total revamp and come with a new engine?

The new S60 will be launched in March 2010 with totally new looks and engine. I suspect the XC 90 will too since the XC60 is more powerful than its big brother...

I need to know guys... please!

[driftingrover]

I once had the opportunity to own a Volve 840 from my company. After driving it a week, I live to tell you what I went thru with the car:

Air-con. At 100 Km/hr. No air-con. Only hot air. Last month, after 10 years, while in Europe, my friend drove me in his Volve, same problem, at 120Km/hr, no air-con. But at 160Km/hr, the cool air comes back!

Wind screen wiper. Short and noisy, completely useless in a typical Malaysian down pour!

Roof. Water leaking in heavy rain. I got wet feet!

Dash board and upholstery that deformed and peel-off under the hot sun.

Steering wheel. The plastic peels and disintegragted.

The doors. Cannot be closed properly, resulting in terrible wind noise.

Door letch at the inside. Watch out! it is so profound that a child's small hand can easily get caught inside and accidently pull it, cause the door to open!

The body color that discolor within the 1st 2 years.

It drives like a tank, poor suspension!

Petrol guzzler when speed exceeds 130 Km/hr..

Spare parts and service. No one know how to service the car except "experts" at the Federal Auto Workshop in PJ and there is the only one in the KLang valley that I know off. I drove the car back to my village in Kedah once and the car dash board show a red light signalling service required. Dung! I had to drive the car all the way to Alor Star to service and the mechanics had to go all the way to Butterworth to get the ori spare part. Imagine, the cost and the time!

I really hope Volve improve because I still like the CX60 SUV and considering buying one!

:eek:

uchangeng,

pls get your facts right,
first there is no volvo 840 models
true, volvo may not be the best car there is on the road, but it was never as bad as what u had describe, what u hv describe is a poorly maintained car(regardless of whatever make).

aircon problem? if only u know where the competent air con mechanics r?
spare parts , mechanics, workshops, is not as bad as what u hv describe, there r many specialist volvo spare parts shops around n the parts cost a fraction of what u pay at FA(original parts) n OEM parts will even be cheaper. same goes to independant workshops, there r quite a few around , if only u know where.
if as u describe , who can afford to maintain any old volvos(which u still see running around) or for the fact , it won't be worth it.

anyway, i m a volvo owner , but then again, each his/her own.

cheers, happy motoring