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silver_bird
12-07-2009, 12:36 AM
YB Hannah Yeoh :-

# " So many people have been telling me just how frustrated they are with the current political situation in our country "

# " Some have told me that they regretted voting for change because of the political instability now and would prefer returning to their old style of voting - vote for stability and forget about having a stronger opposition and greater check and balance "

# " I shudder at the thought of this " !!!

More :-
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/24126/84/

kuma
12-07-2009, 02:25 AM
YB Hannah Yeoh :-

# " So many people have been telling me just how frustrated they are with the current political situation in our country "

# " Some have told me that they regretted voting for change because of the political instability now and would prefer returning to their old style of voting - vote for stability and forget about having a stronger opposition and greater check and balance "

# " I shudder at the thought of this " !!!

More :-
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/24126/84/

Sad! Really Sad....BUT Not Surprised!!

Not Surprised because I knew this was bound to happen...in fact I did write about the expectations of Malaysians here, way back after the elections when there was so much euphoria.

I think I wrote something like....M'sians have had such a good life for decades that they have no clue what sacrifice is required of them if they want Change.

In fact I doubt M'sians even know what Change they want. I bet that if a survey was run...on what Change we wanted and what we would be prepared to sacrifice for that Change...the true conceited and materialistic M'sian will emerge.

Change is not something one gets by flipping a switch. The Americans are beginning to realize that now. It takes time, sacrifice and a willingness to succeed to see any change at all. Most importantly, it requires a goal higher than oneself...Love of Country, and doing the right thing for the next Generation.

My comments in Bold:
" Some have told me that they regretted voting for change because of the political instability now[what did they expect?....Go put an X and they could go about their merry lives with no further contribution?].... and would prefer returning to their old style of voting - vote for stability[:Dfunny!...I was under the impression that 'true' stability came when you had checks and balances] and forget about having a stronger opposition and greater check and balance "

kuma
12-07-2009, 03:13 AM
[more with reference to earlier post]

Frankly....I think the current ruling party have done a great job. What I mean is....The objective of any political party is win an election and then rule;....and key to any successful regime is to give most of the people what they want, most of the time. No other Govt in the Third world has had a reign of 50 years keeping most of the people happy[and under control, as and when needed:rolleyes:], MOST of the time. They have had a long time to study the M'sian psyche. They know us well and will be alert to give us what we want, or at times what they feel we deserve. :eek:

Regretfully, we have a 'Strong' Opposition only in terms of number of seats won. The voice is not strong enough, neither is their clout because they lack sufficient and genuine support from the ground to force upon any Change. As the months go by they seem to be weakening, they have become disorganized and being seen as ineffective. The people are getting disillusioned but fail to realize that it's their making because they didn't throw their full weight behind them once elected.

Sadly.... looks like our 'strong' opposition might be history come next election.

shthang
12-07-2009, 08:31 AM
Indeed sad to hear some people not able to deal with the change process in our politics today. To me, this is part and parcel of change mgt leading to a more transparent and people first democracy that we are seeing more now.

In every change, some internal squabbles within PR is unavoidable as water yet to find its own level in the new alliance.

Look at the bigger picture and don;t let some "operational and teething" issues change our belief in the journey to a better governance that this country deserves. I used to live in HK and there is too much politics there. At first i hate it and sooner i realised both ruling and opposition hv to ensure their actions are always people first if they want to gain support. In the end, it's always people win. Just my 2 small cents.

silver_bird
12-07-2009, 10:04 AM
Rome was not built in a day.
Similarly after 50 years of almost 100% BN’s rule, a new coalition party such as PR at it’s infancy are facing some obstacles running the five states they won. As newly-born, PR may have some teething problems. So it’ll take sometime when PR will stabilize soon. It’s expected of critics from the “other side” but Voters are matured enough to evaluate their Reps, come GE13.

But the greatest challenge and damaging now is bickering & in-fighting within PR parties where PKR ADUN & MP strongly suggested reshuffling of two DAP State Excos in Selangor. Surely there’re a better avenue and channel to deliberate whatever outstanding issues instead of washing dirty linen in public. Why give BN ammunition and bullets to steam-roll PR ?

If PR among themselves are not able to take care of their backyard, what’s there left to serve the rakyat ?
Print Medias love are now working overtime on these issues.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/12/nation/4305304&sec=nation

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/12/nation/4304606&sec=nation

CS Chua
12-07-2009, 10:30 AM
People always fail to see the big picture. They always want immediate results. They do not understand how social transformation works. It takes time and it takes pain because all changes and sacrifices are not easy.

One day in LA, a friend allowed me to steer his million dollar yacht while out sailing. Since I was inexperienced, I steered it like I would do for my car. The result was, the yacht was moving left and right as I over-do it and trying to correct my fault. The yacht responded slower than my car, obviously. Like all big ships, they turn slowly and not immediately.

Likewise, the country is like a big ship. It does not turn overnight. Social transformation takes years and sometimes generations. A few years are not enough to undo the excesses of the BN government. These ingrates, whether intentionally or unintentionally, have built undesirable cultures in our society. Culture of corruption. Culture of abuses by the law enforcement people. Culture of renting seeking. Culture of knowing-who-than-knowing-how. Culture of racial supremacy. Culture of suppression of human rights. Culture of threats and violence against all dissents.

Cultures take years to be "cultured". And it will take years to change it. And it is happening already. The last election has forced the government to expedite the changes. Without the last election results, they would have remained in their destructive ways and taking all of us along with them.

So, to those who are regretting, I hope you will be patient. Be patient for one more general election. Give the people of Malaysia another chance to change things. We need these 10 years - for ourselves and for our children.

Fang Su
12-07-2009, 10:59 AM
Cultures take years to be "cultured". And it will take years to change it. And it is happening already. The last election has forced the government to expedite the changes. Without the last election results, they would have remained in their destructive ways and taking all of us along with them. So, to those who are regretting, I hope you will be patient. Be patient for one more general election. Give the people of Malaysia another chance to change things. We need these 10 years - for ourselves and for our children.

Your analogy of steering a yatch makes perfect sense. I do agree with you but unfortunately many people do not see it this way. People are always in a rush. We have got so used to instant fixes and immediate actions (even when demanding for service over the counter). People are no longer patient.

And the bickering among PR politicians are not helping. I am all for freedom of speech but there is such a thing as wisdom and think before you speak. We have far too many PR politicians who have been in a great hurry to shoot off their mouths and leaders of the component parties have to do damage control. All these damage controls are causing people to lose confidence.

Think of it as running an organization. When different divisional heads start to air their views (and grievances) in public and via 'all users' email service, then the company is going downhill.

bslee
12-07-2009, 11:16 AM
People are always in a rush. We have got so used to instant fixes and immediate actions (even when demanding for service over the counter). People are no longer patient.


I'd fully agree with most points you folks have said here. However thats only in thought. People had very high expectation (perhaps even the impossible) and expecting miracles that will sweep in. It just doesn't work that way. Opposition DID NOT unseat them totally, neither are they fully in control to dictate main matters. They can only do so much. 52 years of rubbish have spoilt this country to a near irrepairable state and many insist on sweeping changes from March 8th. We've to be very very patient but persistent in helping for change. I'd still standby YB Hannah as long as I'm still kicking...period. Thats all I'd say for now.

Sentinel
12-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Pakatan has only been formed 16 months ago. Even newly married couples need a 'honeymoon' period to make the necessary adjustments - even if they have cohabited together for years prior to their marriage.

There will be difficulties. There will be unease, suspicions and mistrusts and there will be time when we will have doubts about this new coalition. That is not unexpected.

I am also personally having big headaches here in Penang dealing with some of the 'greenhorns' ADUNs and MPs. The people are still the same here - they expect miracles.

For 52 years they never make noise but now they thumped the table at some of the service centres. "How come my daughter got 4 principals with 2 As cannot get into Law Faculty?" "I am staying in Tanjung Bungah but next year my daughter will start Standard 1 in Tanjung Tokong school?"

Malaysia has just been awoken - politically speaking. There will still be a lot of petty issues cropping up (MP Wee Choo Keong has just started one more intra-party collison course this morning). There will be a lot more unease.

Do not lose the fous, the journey will not be a short and easy one. The ruling party will not give up so easily after 52 years on the throne without a fight. Let us all stay the course. Lets wait another 2-3 years for the next GE13 to decide. Meanwhile, let us stay the course. a two-party system is best for the future of this country, we shall continue to fight for our right and our dream.

silver_bird
12-07-2009, 11:40 AM
Appreciate & thanks for your fair, healthy and constructive comments.
No character assasin & accusation, please.
So far, so good :-) :-) :-)

Sentinel
12-07-2009, 11:56 AM
Appreciate & thanks for your fair, healthy and constructive comments.
No character assasin & accusation, please.
So far, so good :-) :-) :-)
When I brought up in a separate thread some weeks ago about YB Hannah Yeoh's public criticism of Ronnie Liu's announcement on the Subang Ria park development, most forumers disagreed. That was, in my opinion, one of Pakatan Rakyat's weaknesses, infighting and washing dirty linen in public, and YB Hannah was also guilty of this decaying behaviour amongst the Pakatan's newly-elected reps.Surprised she now "shudder' at the thought of losing public support amongst the Pakatan.

okang
12-07-2009, 03:16 PM
The greatest change catalyst for the ordinary rakyat and tax payers would be the votes in their hands. A change in the federal government will hasten the desired transformation that we longed for. Only the majority control of parliament can we see these expectations and aspirations being crystallised.

CS Chua
12-07-2009, 05:12 PM
Yes, a change of the Federal government will hasten the desired changes but I hope it will not happen at the coming GE. The earliest should be the GE after that (2017?)

Why? Change has to happen slowly. One cannot and should not force change on people. Currently, the Federal government and their supporters are in denial mode and will resist change. After 50 years of absolute power, they and their supporters cannot and will not accept change in these 4 years. Change has to happen on the mental level first. They must go through the typical psychological stages - denied, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. The denied stage was very apparent last year and still is this year. The police action against assemblies, candle light vigil, opposition members etc are reflective of this anger.

Najib is giving out lots of goodies as a form of bargaining, hoping that the BN will win back some support. It is their way of compromising with the rakyat. If the rakyat does not take the bait, the BN will go into depression. The depression and acceptance stage can take a long time. Even if the BN leaders have accepted the inevitable, how sure are we that their supporters have? They have very powerful supporters - police, army, Rela, civil servants, Islamic NGOs, party members, etc If these supporters have not accepted change, and the GE results turn against them, what would happen? I leave that to your imagination but it is not good.

Thus, change should be evolutionary rather than revolutionary. If the opposition can maintain the status quo for the next 8 years, I will say they have a very good chance of forming the Federal government in 2017 and KEEPING IT. The challenge is not just forming the Federal government. The challenge is keeping it.

Fang Su
12-07-2009, 07:31 PM
I'd still standby YB Hannah as long as I'm still kicking...period. Thats all I'd say for now.

Same here. YB Hannah Yeoh is the best there is around.

Firebird
12-07-2009, 08:00 PM
The thing that disappoints me most about the opposition is Anwar Ibrahim's insistence that the teaching of Math & Science should be reverted to BM. When I read the article in the papers, I had to read it twice to make sure I was reading it right. Then when it was finally decided that that'd be the way to go, Lim Kit Siang had to suggest that the reversion ought to kick in the following year instead of 2012! What the muther-gone-fishing was he thinking?
YB Hannah Yeoh is the best there is around.Agreed.

Carolrasiah
12-07-2009, 09:18 PM
Pakatan has only been formed 16 months ago. Even newly married couples need a 'honeymoon' period to make the necessary adjustments - even if they have cohabited together for years prior to their marriage.

There will be difficulties. There will be unease, suspicions and mistrusts and there will be time when we will have doubts about this new coalition. That is not unexpected.

I am also personally having big headaches here in Penang dealing with some of the 'greenhorns' ADUNs and MPs. The people are still the same here - they expect miracles.

For 52 years they never make noise but now they thumped the table at some of the service centres. "How come my daughter got 4 principals with 2 As cannot get into Law Faculty?" "I am staying in Tanjung Bungah but next year my daughter will start Standard 1 in Tanjung Tokong school?"

Malaysia has just been awoken - politically speaking. There will still be a lot of petty issues cropping up (MP Wee Choo Keong has just started one more intra-party collison course this morning). There will be a lot more unease.

Do not lose the fous, the journey will not be a short and easy one. The ruling party will not give up so easily after 52 years on the throne without a fight. Let us all stay the course. Lets wait another 2-3 years for the next GE13 to decide. Meanwhile, let us stay the course. a two-party system is best for the future of this country, we shall continue to fight for our right and our dream.
U got a good point there. let us hope the people use their brains more then their mouth........esp on petty matters.

Nick Chia
12-07-2009, 10:34 PM
The people got brains but can brains alone take over BN, not in your wildest dream. Look at what happened to PKR , They messed up by prematurely announcing crossovers and see the result. Perak gone, Sabah gone, Sarawak gone. What have change is just a vote for opposition to get BN to be more fair, thats all. Ask Jeff why quit as an adviser to Lim Guan Eng.

Nick Chia
12-07-2009, 10:43 PM
A question to Hannah Yeoh:- In so far , can you say that SJ/USJ is better security than before you are elected and why we must live in gated communities ?

I am sure you have tried your best and you know why ? because Bn still control the police and there is nothing you can do. i'm sorry but to the laymen thats the fact.

birdy
13-07-2009, 06:54 AM
Simple as that... if we wanted see a better result... then we should opt for total change! I heard some of the government servant didn't want to help out non-bn controlled area, I guess they must have been brain-washed. So, let's us put our hand together and make a total change, it is either you choose majority BN or majority PR. Since PR has claimed that they can do better and more transparency, and we all have seen how BN performed in the past 50 years.... I would give PR a change to proof themselves, just like how US people give Obama a chance. ;)

Sentinel
13-07-2009, 10:51 AM
There are reports that many giant GLCs are staying away from Pakatan-controlled states in their investments... arahan dari atas.

xaviers
13-07-2009, 11:00 AM
A question to Hannah Yeoh:- In so far , can you say that SJ/USJ is better security than before you are elected and why we must live in gated communities ?

I am sure you have tried your best and you know why ? because Bn still control the police and there is nothing you can do. i'm sorry but to the laymen thats the fact.

what it means that the ruling party must win big, if Pakatan win small they would do the same thing to BN. So.. communist ?

To Hannah, Sometimes I wish we are allowed to cut the hands of the robbers, snachers and theives. Drastic times require drastic measures.
The bad guys are not afraid at all...

chookyan
13-07-2009, 11:03 AM
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There are reports that many giant GLCs are staying away from Pakatan-controlled states in their investments... arahan dari atas.

Schools are also not allowed to invite aduan from Pakatan to functions - another step backwards.

Seriously it is time that Pakatan reps walk the talk - starting with the councillors - no contribution yet reappointed. Perhaps it is time Pakatan starts KPI

silver_bird
13-07-2009, 11:04 AM
Will someone from PR, pls press "Damage Control" button ?

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/13/nation/4308307&sec=nation

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/7/13/nation/4308308&sec=nation

Chia Hak Soon
13-07-2009, 11:17 AM
That is why PAS is proposing Hudud laws and this is the only law that the poor and desperate fear and therefore peace and harmony. At the rate of crimes being carried so openly and the police have too much in their 'hands'
no one is safe and we have to go back to primitive laws.

Forget about religion , these robbers are having a field day and it takes drastic steps to enforce for the sake of the peace loving majority.Look at China, you will see beggars without hands and legs and they look pathetic.
But when I tried to donate, while I was there, the guide explained that they lost their hands and legs due to capital punisment during the communist rule.
Looks like we need Hudud Laws for snatch thieves, robbers,kidnappers,murderers and rapists.

CS Chua
13-07-2009, 12:23 PM
That is why PAS is proposing Hudud laws and this is the only law that the poor and desperate fear and therefore peace and harmony. At the rate of crimes being carried so openly and the police have too much in their 'hands'
no one is safe and we have to go back to primitive laws.

Forget about religion , these robbers are having a field day and it takes drastic steps to enforce for the sake of the peace loving majority.Look at China, you will see beggars without hands and legs and they look pathetic.
But when I tried to donate, while I was there, the guide explained that they lost their hands and legs due to capital punisment during the communist rule.
Looks like we need Hudud Laws for snatch thieves, robbers,kidnappers,murderers and rapists.
Sounds good. But what happens if someone wants to fix you by framing false charges against you with 4 false witnesses? You will be convicted, have your hand cut off and later, by God's design or by secret video-filming, found out that you are actually innocent but minus one hand now. What then?

Or, do you know that an infidel's testimony has less credibility? You may get 2 infidels to testify for you but all they need is one.

As for rapists, look at other Islamic countries how they treat rapists and their victims. Do you think it is that easy to convict a rapist under their law? It is easier to charge the victim for fornification or adultery.

Hudud law is not the answer. Strict enforcement and punishment need to be implemented. The judiciary needs to do their part but they have failed miserably with their lenient sentences. Quite often, these snatch thieves get away with a few months imprisonment or community services. They should give maximum sentences plus maximum strokes of the cane. That ought to put some fear into them.

bslee
13-07-2009, 12:30 PM
Mr Chua. I believe the current punishments meted out by current law is just worse than hudud, not to mention police brutality. Go think in depth before you jump to conclusion. It was the same with Hong Kong citizens so scared of Communist China takeover but then...they the citizens are all still very happily going about their lives aren't they. Don't tell me its all DIFFERENT. Fear is fear, and fear can make anyone argue about it all.
Not intending to open any can of worms but I think Hudud will NEVER be implemented in this lifetime, so lets NOT speculate the consequences. There's more disturbing issues at hand and the FIRST step for EVERYONE, its to help vote wisely at next GE.

CS Chua
13-07-2009, 12:52 PM
Mr Chua. I believe the current punishments meted out by current law is just worse than hudud, not to mention police brutality. Go think in depth before you jump to conclusion. Not intending to open any can of worms but I think Hudud will NEVER be implemented in this lifetime, so lets NOT speculate the consequences. There's more disturbing issues at hand and the FIRST step for EVERYONE, its to help vote wisely at next GE.
Since you asked me to think in depth, I can safely assumed that you have concluded that I did not think in depth or did not write correctly. It also makes me assumed you are an expert in hudud law since it is apparent that you know something that I do not know (which does not bother me). Either way, can you show me which area I have jumped to conclusion? I assumed you mean false conclusion, as otherwise, a factual conclusion should not be challenged.

The question of whether Hudud can be implemented or not is beside the point. That is another area for discussion. The issue at hand is whether we need hudud law to prevent these crimes.

bslee
13-07-2009, 01:05 PM
Yes, I'm quite sure you didn't think in depth. Its of course I do not claim to be an expert either. Please do not take my comment as a personal attack on your goodself. Its time and again I hear of sweeping statements similar to yours or various arguements and hypothesis of what may or could happen on the hudud issue in this land, which I just plainly think it won't and can't happen or be implemented in the near future. Moreove I think whoever mooted all this in recent times are using it merely for political mileage or to win over their followers.

CS Chua
13-07-2009, 02:57 PM
Thanks for your explanation. I appreciate that.

Whether the hudud law can or cannot be implemented is subjective. The possibility is remote, I admit that, but not impossible. The proposed unity talk presents a window of opportunity for that. If enough MPs of similar sentiment are elected, there is no reason why it cannot be done, even against the will of the majority. The is Malaysia, a so called Boleh Land. It means just that - anything can happen. And if we let our guard down, we may have to pay the price for generations. Please remember, in Asia, silence means consent to many authorities.

My position has nothing to do with politics. As one who has lived in the Middle East I do not wish to see my family and friends live under such condition. I believe we are agreeable on this point.

in
13-07-2009, 04:20 PM
Below is the transcript of part of the speech delivered by US President Barack Obama in Ghana’s parliament last week:


First, we must support strong and sustainable democratic governments. As I said in Cairo, each nation gives life to democracy in its own way, and in line with its own traditions. But history offers a clear verdict: governments that respect the will of their own people are more prosperous, more stable and more successful than governments that do not.

This is about more than holding elections — it’s also about what happens between them. Repression takes many forms, and too many nations are plagued by problems that condemn their people to poverty. No country is going to create wealth if its leaders exploit the economy to enrich themselves, or police can be bought off by drug traffickers. No business wants to invest in a place where the government skims 20% off the top, or the head of the port authority is corrupt. No person wants to live in a society where the rule of law gives way to the rule of brutality and bribery. That is not democracy, that is tyranny, and now is the time for it to end.

In the 21st century, capable, reliable and transparent institutions are the key to success — strong parliaments and honest police forces; independent judges and journalists; a vibrant private sector and civil society.


Fifty-two years ago, the eyes of the world were on Ghana. And a young preacher named Martin Luther King traveled here, to Accra, to watch the Union Jack come down and the Ghanaian flag go up. This was before the march on Washington or the success of the civil rights movement in my country. Dr. King was asked how he felt while watching the birth of a nation. And he said: "It renews my conviction in the ultimate triumph of justice."
Now, that triumph must be won once more, and it must be won by you. And I am particularly speaking to the young people. In places like Ghana, you make up over half of the population. Here is what you must know: the world will be what you make of it.

You have the power to hold your leaders accountable and to build institutions that serve the people. You can serve in your communities and harness your energy and education to create new wealth and build new connections to the world.

You can conquer disease, end conflicts and make change from the bottom up. You can do that. Yes you can. Because in this moment, history is on the move. But these things can only be done if you take responsibility for your future. It won’t be easy. It will take time and effort. There will be suffering and setbacks. But I can promise you this: America will be with you. As a partner. As a friend. Opportunity won’t come from any other place, though — it must come from the decisions that you make, the things that you do, and the hope that you hold in your hearts.

Freedom is your inheritance. Now, it is your responsibility to build upon freedom’s foundation. And if you do, we will look back years from now to places like Accra and say that this was the time when the promise was realized — this was the moment when prosperity was forged; pain was overcome; and a new era of progress began. This can be the time when we witness the triumph of justice once more. Thank you.


We have a similar history with Ghana (colonialism and independance from Britian.) I believe the US President's speech to Ghana/Africa is applicable for Malaysia as well. Just change the names from Ghana/Accra to Malaysia/Kuala Lumpur......its as if he's talking about us.

bslee
13-07-2009, 04:44 PM
We have a similar history with Ghana (colonialism and independance from Britian.) I believe the US President's speech to Ghana/Africa is applicable for Malaysia as well. Just change the names from Ghana/Accra to Malaysia/Kuala Lumpur......its as if he's talking about us.

This phenomenon is quite apparent in many countries. I'm sure you can name them off hand. The differences are in varying degrees. A speech is a speech. People forget the very next day. Any idea could also remain "just another idea!".

OK..our main concern is MALAYSIA, HERE and NOW, not Ghana, Gostanland, Negri Syaitan or anywhere else. We're not citizens there. Just standby Hannah, support Hannah all the way (since this thread is focussed on her) and continue to vote wisely next GE. Meanwhile you tolerate the controlled media playing up the issues time and again. THINK FOR YOURSELF and don't be quilckly sold in by the media as gospel truth. I can't say much for anyone else at somewhere else, who soley depend on the controlled media for news and updates.

jan tomaswaki
13-07-2009, 06:05 PM
Same here. YB Hannah Yeoh is the best there is around.
Look at SJ/USJ , RA's trying to form gated communities and there were resistence.This simple thing YB even ncan't be solve!Why not ask her to tell all RA's to form RT to look after the area,simple as that.to save her position and popularirty i think she chicken out!

jan tomaswaki
13-07-2009, 06:07 PM
I think before any YB'[s invited to any function and you can't solve problems ,better don't attend.

Fang Su
13-07-2009, 08:00 PM
I think before any YB'[s invited to any function and you can't solve problems ,better don't attend.


Look at SJ/USJ , RA's trying to form gated communities and there were resistence.This simple thing YB even ncan't be solve!Why not ask her to tell all RA's to form RT to look after the area,simple as that.to save her position and popularirty i think she chicken out!

Woah. Hold your horses. You mean an ADUN can command people in the neighbourhood to perform certain tasks/functions even if the people are against it?

AllUrban
14-07-2009, 10:52 AM
Look at SJ/USJ , RA's trying to form gated communities and there were resistence.This simple thing YB even ncan't be solve!Why not ask her to tell all RA's to form RT to look after the area,simple as that.to save her position and popularirty i think she chicken out!simple matter is that a successful RT will require effort and there is also a personal safety issue that would make many people nervous.

G & G communities require money and cooperation from 2/3 of the people and the low-paid security guards take the risks.

Cheers, m

tupai
14-07-2009, 11:17 AM
unless and until one has taken a role in community affairs as a volunteer, one will know that many of the residents(maybe even 99%) are merely NATO.

It is easier to push water uphill, then to go around door-to-door, getting volunteers to do anything even on a free sunday morning. Fat chance! let alone be part of RT for midnite-6am patrolling! :eek:

one can only wish that Hannah has the power to command the residents to be in the volunteer corp...recalcitrants will be zapped by Zeus!

Yang Bersukarela sket latotupai :p

jan tomaswaki
14-07-2009, 11:32 AM
unless and until one has taken a role in community affairs as a volunteer, one will know that many of the residents(maybe even 99%) are merely NATO.

It is easier to push water uphill, then to go around door-to-door, getting volunteers to do anything even on a free sunday morning. Fat chance! let alone be part of RT for midnite-6am patrolling! :eek:

one can only wish that Hannah has the power to command the residents to be in the volunteer corp...recalcitrants will be zapped by Zeus!

Yang Bersukarela sket latotupai :p
Sometimes YB should say " let's make it happen !let's guard our own neighbourhood and our families , we only need the police to guide us". RT had form during the 70's and proven very successful,-national intergration.If YB can do this,i'll teach them self defence-i am a qualified martial art instructor!

bslee
14-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Same here. YB Hannah Yeoh is the best there is around.

I'm only guessing but the consensus may be for few reasons, updates on website, frequently seen or going about doing things and frequent exposure on the internet or mass media. Could I expect to see or hear much less praise if one possibly achieve success but prefer to work silently and less all the exposure for all to see.

Sentinel
14-07-2009, 12:54 PM
Wow... this thread looks more like an endorsement thread for YB Hannah Yeoh lah... I thought it was just a thread on a message from her... like a "Support Jeff Ooi" thread in 2007 lah! :D

chin_wan
22-07-2009, 07:41 PM
I hope YB Hannah Yeoh does not give up. I can understand that there are some who wish that things are still "same old same old" but I know everytime I talk to the younger generation (Gen X and Gen Y - regardless of race) they feel the current "insanity" is a must before we can achieve what we want.

Things will change when the kids whose parents are Gen X grow up (I am a Gen X) because I believe we Gen X are great parents. Now I am not saying that my parents are not good parents but they lack the resources we have (Internet, Pay TV, etc.) to be able to know the truth.

E.g. how come the US were able to elect a African American President? Because the kids from the 1969 revolution grew up and they were brought up by a generation of people who have gone through the "make love not war" era.

We started a little late but we will get there, one generation at a time. These are Malaysia's growing pains.

kuma
23-07-2009, 12:56 AM
A touching farewell to Beng Hock from Hannah Yeoh....with some reflection on her own experience.

Plus her sister's sms asking her what to do in the event Hannah gets taken in to MACC.

READ HERE (http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/24725/84/)

silver_bird
27-07-2009, 07:21 AM
Breakdown of Allocation for 2008
Allocation : RM 375,000-00
Expenditure : RM 360,370-65
Balance :RM 14,629-35

http://hannahyeoh.blogspot.com/2008/12/allocation-of-rm375000.html

fRaNkY
27-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Better tell her the geocities are going down. Host the stuffs somewhere else.

This => http://www.geocities.com/securevision/ accounts08.pdf :D