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CCY
18-06-2009, 09:18 AM
Hmmmm....This is what written on a note to all student's from the school.
Is it proper or appropriate for this demand ....?
It goes like this..

"Bayaran Lain Bagi Tahun 2009"

Merujuk kepada perkara di atas dengan persetujuan PIBG di dalam mesyuarat Agung Kali 16 pada 21-2-09 , pihak sekolah akan membuat kutipan bayaran mulai 1-6-09 bagi Tingkatan 1 hingga 6 seperti berikut.

1. Kertas Ujian .............................................RM20
2. Kokurikulum ............................................. RM10
3. Yuan Sukan tahunan...................................RM10
4. Kegiatan pendidikan islam atau pen. moral.......RM10
5. MSSM.............................................. ........RM4
6. Majallah sekolah (setiap keluarga)..................RM12
7. Insuran Takaful (untuk pelajar yg belum bayar)..RM1.50
8. Sumbangan PIBG..........................................RM50
9. Kertas peperiksaan pra PMR/SPM/STPM...........RM10

Is this RM50 Sumbangan PIBG appropriate in these tough times....?
Could it be some lesser amount..?
After hearing horror stories of cronies in PIBG's n contractor elsewhere , do you think it is overly excessive in this demand from the parents..?

More.... Some teacher asking for RM50 contribution (from the tone of it ,more like compulsory...) from each student to the school carnival......
Die lah.....after adding all up...

JoeJaffar
18-06-2009, 09:42 AM
sk usj20 is asking for the same amount for PIBG.

silver_bird
18-06-2009, 10:18 AM
Quote :
" Merujuk kepada perkara di atas dengan persetujuan PIBG di dalam mesyuarat Agung Kali 16 pada 21-2-09 ........ " ,

Why did parents agreed & voted the expenses at the AGM ?
Were you at the AGM to protest ?
Normally, school implemented only after PIBG & parents agreed to it.

kpc
18-06-2009, 10:36 AM
What is RM50 to you?

CCY
18-06-2009, 10:46 AM
What is RM50 to you?
Why direct this at me ...why not to all the rest in general...?

tupai
18-06-2009, 12:39 PM
What is RM50 to you?
Objection! Irrelevant question.

But i shall try to answer, rm50 can buy:
1. 27.77 litre of petrol = 420km on bike to Penang & Balik Pulau

OR. Eight & half kilo of Ang Hei & D69 durian

OR. 2 X 10kg of beras jasmin

OR. 1 jug of beer

OR. 200gm of Jack Daniel Steak done medium, with french fries and grilled tomamo.

OR 7xWednesday movie tix plus rm1.00 for parking tix.

I can go on...cos rm50 is roughly Baht450! wow! can do alot leh!


Yang Belanja rm50 latotupai :p

silver_bird
18-06-2009, 12:42 PM
For RM 50 = 2 biji Musang durian

Sentinel
18-06-2009, 12:43 PM
What is RM50 to you?Wah.. KPC now so par phai... so rich ah?

chewie
18-06-2009, 12:54 PM
is not the RM50, is what PIBG is going to do with it. is there any financial report or even projected spending on the money that is going to be received.

RM50 can buy me one week of breakfast and lunch lorr..and occasionaly teh tarik during tea time ... :D :D

USJ27Resident
18-06-2009, 01:10 PM
is not the RM50, is what PIBG is going to do with it. is there any financial report or even projected spending on the money that is going to be received....

RM50/- x 1000+ (student) = instant RM50,000+ in the coffers... TO WASTE on some STUPID PROJECT that the YDP would approve or have a hand in it... :rolleyes:

tupai
18-06-2009, 01:14 PM
RM50/- x 1000 = RM50,000 in the coffers... TO WASTE on some STUPID PROJECT that the YDP would approve or have a hand in it... :rolleyes:

lickhung has 3000 students or is it 4000 students? = RM150,000 or rm200,000...
no wonder lah, so many wanna pitch for a pibg top posts...But i will give them the benefit of doubt, they seem genuine enuff. If they r corrupted and CBT the funds, they also cannot bring with them on deathbed lah :D


Yang Boleh donate rm50 (at the expense of a jug of bir) latotupai :p

charis14
19-06-2009, 12:58 PM
Most PIBGs are just another Teachers Association, resulting from the teachers' block voting during the AGM. It will be good if the parents gang up (quietly) and instal people who are there to help the students. I understand the parents in SMK Subang Utama (SS18) did that.

kpc
19-06-2009, 01:45 PM
is not the RM50, is what PIBG is going to do with it. is there any financial report or even projected spending on the money that is going to be received.

Surely the PIBG is going to use the money towards the benefit of the school and students right?
The reason why they were elected is because they are trustworthy persons.

bslee
19-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Malaysia is a funny country where not so funny things can happen even if it looks like legal extortion for NO real reason implied. Blatantly imposing that RM50 fee for no bloomin reason is "EXTORTION" Simple and true!.
Glad I don't have school going kids anymore to worry about the crap that happens in our Malaysian community...this issue implied!
Its actually amazing that government schools need money from parents and public support to get many things going!..like kids on the streets asking donations ..equal to near beggars. This shows that MOE or the gahmen HAVE FAILED in total support of the education system in Malaysia, YET THEY INSIST near or FULL CONTROL over every known activity.

journey
19-06-2009, 09:46 PM
hi all,

My kids school cost about rm 85 for primary school mind u!

S/t sad to say some parents do not find time to attend pibg some loose their voice to the majority in the pibg.....

Of course it is alot of money.......

>SF<
19-06-2009, 10:10 PM
I'm still studying at SMK Seafield.....Except the PIBG Rm50,even for a carnival day ,the teacher demanded a minimum budget of RM2300 which require every student to pay RM50.A class 45 student=40xrm50... IS about RM2000!!! The teacher expect to spend RM2000 on a food stall and a game corner???? What is this man :mad:

peterkkchong
20-06-2009, 12:26 PM
i was in one of the similar PIBG meeting in Feb this year, if i have not heard wrongly some of PIBG expenses highlighted by CCY will go to PIBG bank account and some to School account. The differerence is the school acount fees will be reported in the PIBG annual meeting.

Again i may be wrong, but will get clarification next PIBG meeting next year. THe non comittee member will not have any access or update to development until next year?

CCY
20-06-2009, 02:41 PM
i was in one of the similar PIBG meeting in Feb this year, if i have not heard wrongly some of PIBG expenses highlighted by CCY will go to PIBG bank account and some to School account. The differerence is the school acount fees will be reported in the PIBG annual meeting.
Hmmm....that's news to me....splitting the share of the lot and not knowing what they are using it for..till it is finish ?


Again i may be wrong, but will get clarification next PIBG meeting next year. THe non comittee member will not have any access or update to development until next year?

As bslee pointed out... Poor parents still have to fork out...or force out their hard earn cash for the running of a government school...!

Lau_utlang
20-06-2009, 03:34 PM
I have a kid in SMK Subang Utama. They ask for RM50 and force my kid to sell RM50 worth of tickets for fun fair vouchers.

I have another one in Lick Hung, so far no notice of PIBG funding and no fun fair tickets.

chowhouz
21-06-2009, 05:06 PM
Kindly read the notice again, if I am not mistaken, it reads RM50 per family. Anyway, if there are any doubts on the accounts or how the PIBG funds are utilised, please attend the PIBG meetings to find out. Or better still, volunteer your services so that you have first hand insights on what goes on in the PIBG. I was in SMK Seafield PIBG committee some years ago and I must say the PIBG financed a lot of improvements and facilities for the school including even paying salaries for temporary teachers. It is most unfortunate but true, even 'government funded' schools do not get their fair share of the allocated budget.

besitai2007
22-06-2009, 02:24 PM
All parents should participate in the PIBG, especially during the AGM. If you did not attend then you cannot raise objections when the PIBG tells you to "donate" RM50. For all schools, the PIBG is supposed to help the school to carry out a lot of activities for the benefit of the students. However, there are PIBGs which have a different agenda. So, practise your right as a parent and attend the PIBG meetings when asked to do so.

yankeat
22-06-2009, 03:34 PM
I thought 2 years ago, that Education Minister said that these fees should be optional and parents should not be made compulsory? What happened to the free education?

Jennylim
23-06-2009, 12:04 AM
1. Kertas Ujian ...........................RM20 - too much

3. Yuan Sukan tahunan.................RM10 - should be provided by the government
4. Kegiatan pendidikan islam atau pen. moral.......RM10 - why?
5. MSSM.............................................. ........RM4 - Government is willing to pay so much just to train a few persons in sports, why need money from parents for MSSM!!!

8. Sumbangan PIBG..........................................RM50 - depend on what the students get from this.

I understand the school has good collection of books. If you want to get your money worth, get your children to borrow more books, join more activities. I think this school is better (from parents' feedbacks)in school activities than at least 3 other SMK in USJ.

CCY
24-06-2009, 02:42 PM
Is it just a coincidence that 3 schools or maybe more are having rm50 as sumbangan Pibg ....? Would that figure be different if each school have different 'projects planned for the good of the student'....?

Or..or... It is just 'get the money first , then work out what to do with it later ...and ensure that all will be spent year after year'

When you want to get some info on what the kutipan is for....
The usual answer given was that if you want to find out what it is use for ...go attend and get involve in the Pibg meeting....

Isn't it that the parents are paying the $$$ and why is it that difficult to have a note through the student for the parents like what they have , asking for the sumbangan ...and other fees....??

Just received the shocker of a compulsory RM50 worth of coupons for the schools carnival.....
Hmmmmm....If this is not freaking daylight extortion in these hard economic times....I don't know what it is....!!!!. :eek: :eek:

Got this for Smk12.....
A) Sumbangan PIBG RM50.00
Jumlah RM50.00

B) Program Permantapan Akademik
1. Pelajar Tingkatan 3 & 5 RM30.00
2) pelajar TIngkatan 1,2 & 4 RM15.00

B) Bayaranx2 lain paersrkolahan
1) Ko-Korikulum RM10.00
2) kertas Ujian Dalaman RM20.00
3) Sukan Tahunan Sekolah RM10.00
4) Kegiatan pendidikan Islam
(Murid beragama Islam) atau
(Pendidikan Moral RM10.00
5) MSSM 4.00
Jumlah RM54.00



SJK (China) Lick Hung

Adalah saya diarah merujuk surat siaran KP.AK.SEK/500-5(36) bertarikh 8 Mei 2009 yang di keluarkan oleh Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia , Surat Pekeliling Ikhtisas Bil:7/2008 yang dikeluarkan oleh Pejabat Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran Malaysia dan surat dari Jabatan Pelajaran Selangor JPNS/SPP/KAK/A25092/07/02/42(73) bertarikh 20 Mei 2009...

Dengan ini dimaklumkan Mesyuarat agung PIBG............kutipan ....2009
...............berikut..

1) Kertas Ujian Dalaman RM10.00
2) Keceriaan / keselamatan RM10.00
3) Kegiatan Islam / Moral RM 6.00
4) Kegiatan Kokurikolum RM 6.00
5) Sukan Tahuanan Sekolah RM 3.00
6) MSSS RM 2.00
7) Takaful RM 1.50 (Telah
Di Kutip pada 20.1.09
Jumlah RM37.00

orchipalar
24-06-2009, 11:04 PM
Err buddy CCY...RM50 each x nos. of pupils in SK Seafield is a lot of $$$...

That's only for 1st half of school terms...

Orchi needs to pay for 3 pupils...go figure how may hair loss that could
be... :(

CCY
25-06-2009, 02:33 PM
..........
Orchi needs to pay for 3 pupils...go figure how may hair loss that could
be... :(
Orchi.....Other than the sumbangan pibg , I believe you are also saddle with the compulsory carnival coupons , 3 kids some more , how are you handling that...meekly fork it out...??

Lau_utlang
25-06-2009, 06:20 PM
It is interesting to note that the only way to find out what's happening in PIBG is via the AGM.Once a year only?

When Lick Hung launches the building fund, it puts up a notice in the school with details of how much is collected, spending details, balance, etc. No need to wait for PIBG AGM lah.

orchipalar
25-06-2009, 08:28 PM
Orchi.....Other than the sumbangan pibg , I believe you are also saddle with the compulsory carnival coupons , 3 kids some more , how are you handling that...meekly fork it out...??Err buddy CCY...that's only the small part of Orchi's much bigger headaches...
Another little Orchi is still in Chee Wen Primary School...
He has a bigger appetite than his elder siblings...

At the fast slumping rate of World's economy...
Orchi might have to end up queuing before the unemployment line...soon.

jan tomaswaki
26-06-2009, 05:46 PM
It is interesting to note that the only way to find out what's happening in PIBG is via the AGM.Once a year only?

When Lick Hung launches the building fund, it puts up a notice in the school with details of how much is collected, spending details, balance, etc. No need to wait for PIBG AGM lah.
I don't agree with you! After the RM4.2 mil building was launch they didn't put the donors name (min. 1K) in the building but they put the name of a donor RM100K in the hall.Is it fair to the RM4 mil donors.The building was not sublet to outsiders for kenduri or badminton courts,reason -dirty the place.! Do you know it's income to the school man!

ahtal68
26-06-2009, 05:57 PM
CCY, you forgot the payment for yearly school magazine. If I am not wrong, the 2006 edition was in full colour and cost RM12 each. Last year's edition printed in B&W and still costs the same....hmm forgot to ask at the PIBG meeting.

jan tomaswaki
26-06-2009, 10:03 PM
CCY, you forgot the payment for yearly school magazine. If I am not wrong, the 2006 edition was in full colour and cost RM12 each. Last year's edition printed in B&W and still costs the same....hmm forgot to ask at the PIBG meeting.
tELL YOU ONE THING - all parents are kiasu they only know how to talk/listen at the back of the school/teachers.Only PIBG they only complian about the NOT SO CONTROVERSIAL THING like toilet dirty la,too many homework etc...