YB Hannah Yeoh was almost attacked at USJ11/1 on 14/04/2009 at 9.20am

[robertec]

Dear Residents

I received a telephone call at around 9.30am from a traumatized YB Hannah Yeoh who related to me an incident that happened to her just a few minutes earlier.

She was driving alone around USJ11/1 this morning, as she was slowing down at a road hump, out of nowhere came a motorcyclist right next to her car window. He was in the process of taking out a weapon from under his shirt (probably to smash the windows). YB Hannah was shocked and the only thing she thought of doing was to sound her car horn continuously. This probably scared the criminal who promptly rode off.

Within seconds of this happening to herself, she called Tuan Loi of Balai Polis USJ and she called me to send out an SJ Alert to inform residents of the danger at such road humps and for residents to be alert of suspicious motorcyclist following behind their cars in quiet areas in USJ.

As with most of us, in her stunned state she did not notice the Number plates, helmet, dressing etc.. of the motorcyclist.

I must take my hat off to YB Hannah, traumatised, stunned and what have you and still thinking of the residents. To say she is too good would be an under-statement.

[sarawakian]

That's why I say, at times of crime, perhaps, residents must be allowed to also defend themselves :eek:

[Chia Hak Soon]

Although I felt sorry for her , it is good that she experience the state of security in USJ /Subang jaya. Many immigrants have gain entry in to our country whether legal or illegal means. To them it is full harvest for them to pick as our security is at the lowest ebb. Our police officers does not deter them and this is a serious problem. I hope that she can use her good office to make her constituency safer. Remember robbers do not reconise or respect their victims.

[wyshin88]

What have Malaysia becomes? Crimes are getting more and more serious by the day, we are all living in fear!!! :mad:

[USJ27Resident]

in my 'over-imaginative, conspiracy laced' mind... I just hope that the incident wasn't a politically linked/motivated attack on her personal safety...

God only knows, sometimes things like this are cleverly disguised as a random criminal act... :eek: and we'll all be none the wiser...

Hope she takes care of herself and be more alert of her surroundings...

[besitai2007]

It shows why people have gated communities in USJ. In USJ 6 we used to get purse snatching done in broad daylight and in front of our house. Two girls were kidnapped and raped in USJ 6 also. I hope Hannah can get the USJ police force to increase their frequency of patrolling our township.

[sarawakian]

Our social fabric is threatened and only with a social reform in all our dealings can we improve on our unity against crime and grime :mad:

[Sentinel]

in my 'over-imaginative, conspiracy laced' mind... I just hope that the incident wasn't a politically linked/motivated attack on her personal safety...

God only knows, sometimes things like this are cleverly disguised as a random criminal act... :eek: and we'll all be none the wiser...

Hope she takes care of herself and be more alert of her surroundings...
You have been watching too much CSI lah... or maybe you should unsubscribe your Malaysiakini.com account? BUT then again, you just might be right, YB Hannah has been stepping on big toes raising various sensitive issues.

[Sentinel]

Oh... those road humps many of you feel have been good to slow down the traffic in your high-class neighborhood, it is the perfect 'tool' for these robbers because every car will slow down for these robbers.... and they will wait for you at those humps constructed in quiet places... like the one in front of the USJ12 school, quiet area at night too... perfect setting, cars even slow down for you he he he

[Mrs A Tham]

Oh... those road humps many of you feel have been good to slow down the traffic in your high-class neighborhood, it is the perfect 'tool' for these robbers because every car will slow down for these robbers.... and they will wait for you at those humps constructed in quiet places... like the one in front of the USJ12 school, quiet area at night too... perfect setting, cars even slow down for you he he he

Especially in USJ 12 itself...my gosh!! I think the inner road in between TP and behind USJ12 school leading to USJ 13 school had at least 10 road humps.....should be placed in the Guiness Book Of Records! :cool: That's why when I send my son to Qdees USJ18, I would used the main road (infront of Arcadia Apts) and make a U-turn into USJ 16, 17 & 18 instead of taking the USJ 12 (supposed to be a shorter distance for me from TP area) what happened to YB Hannah today prompt me not to use the USJ12 road more as I may be 20 times more prone to getting attack by desperado robbers based on the 20 road humps I had to pass to and fro..... :D :confused: Am I correct at the number or may have even more !!

[tupai]

it goes to show that robbers on cubchai are not just of any particular race...Be aware of small cubchai trailing you...day or nite no matters!

If it was me, i would have swerved my vehicle, side swept that robber, moved forward and then reversed into him! Just to be sure! :mad:

Yang Benggang latotupai

[ceo684]

Speaking of which, the road from (after) Sunway hospital leading towards the NPE/Sunway Pyramid side has a very high number of speedbumps. What is the purpose of putting speedbumps on a 3-lane road? Is it to create traffic jams every weekday so that we can waste money on fuel? As I see the problem is the majority [who just wants to go straight] has to endure the jams+wear and tear to the car suspension which coincidentally is not free or cheap just to enable a few office workers [mind you, not ambulances] to cross - when they could have just made a U-turn at the end of the road (at the crossroads there) where it is not jam to make a u-turn..normally there isnt even 10 cars doing a right turn from the opposite direction.

[Carolrasiah]

it goes to show that robbers on cubchai are not just of any particular race...Be aware of small cubchai trailing you...day or nite no matters!

If it was me, i would have swerved my vehicle, side swept that robber, moved forward and then reversed into him! Just to be sure! :mad:

Yang Benggang latotupai

if the police do their job......we won't have this problem.....i guess we now have to carry a lightweight gun wherever we go.......very justified. :confused:

[USJ27Resident]

BUT then again, you just might be right, YB Hannah has been stepping on big toes raising various sensitive issues....

Yup... true mah... i just hope I am wrong here !! :(

[robertec]

More details about the attempted crime here:

http://www.sjecho.com.my/?page=article&id=820

Make sure you inform you family members to be extra alert of their surroundings even when they are home. If they find a motorcyclist or a motorist stopping their vehicle, "even to have a smoke", call the Police to check them out.

Let's send a strong message to these criminals that Subang Jaya / USJ / Bandar Sunway and Putra Heights is not a safe place for them to operate.

[gary yap]

I just noticed something, it's morning when this happen. Better brace up for more of this incidence as the economy is going downhill.

[robertec]

Yes, it will only get worse if everyone takes the "tidak apa attitude"

1. Be very Alert of your surroundings.
2. Call the Police if you see anyone or anything suspicious in your Taman.
3. When confronted in your car, turn on the Car Alarm and press the Car Horn like crazy.

You can also read about the incident at YB Hannah Yeoh's Blog
http://hannahyeoh.blogspot.com/2009/04/close-shave.html

[gary yap]

Call me paranoid but I have been taking down motorbike number plates, especially those with pillon.

[USJ27Resident]

Make sure you inform you family members to be extra alert of their surroundings even when they are home. If they find a motorcyclist or a motorist stopping their vehicle, "even to have a smoke", call the Police to check them out. [/COLOR]

yup... sound advice here....

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[zinglicious]

I was mugged before in the Malaysia and in the United States.The difference is how the cops handled the similar situations in differnt way.
In malaysia, when people are being robbed, they are asked to report at the police station. By the time they are at the scene of the crime, robbers are long gone. I once logged a police call 999 with a possible robbery with a gun, cops came 15 minutes later. Nothing happened after that.
In Philadelphia, I called to report mugging without gun, cops came within 3 minutes - two patrol cars and three officers on bicycles! The cops asked me for assitance to tracked down the muggers in thier patrol car which I did.Despite not able to track them down, they took me back to my home. Next day, 3 polce officers downtown came personally to my house to take statement and offered assistance of medical and compensation if needed from the City of Philadelphia.
See the differences? It is being highlighted.
I havent seen Malaysian Cops on the bicycles at Subang Jaya especially in busy SS15 and motorbikes making rounds slowly to show pressence as deterence to crimes. Very often seen are police patrol cars parking at lonely spots at main road (i.e.Glenmarie), checking for licence or road tax which should be the responsiblity of JPJ!
For goodness sake,you dont need enforement of guns to take care of road tax or driving without safety belts. BTW, the USA cops dont set up roadblocks to do that! It is just pure luck you get stopped and ticket for that. USA cops are proud to be cops tracking crimes and Malaysia cops are proud to be tracking traffic summons with guns.
IGP should make OCPD accountable why road blocks are set up to issue summons instead of arresting criminals with guns or having thier pressence to deter crimes. A blackbox in the patrol should be handy to keep track of the real cops activities. They should be making partrol rounds at the neighbour where crimes are reported each single day!

[USJ27Resident]

I havent seen Malaysian Cops on the bicycles at Subang Jaya especially in busy SS15 and motorbikes making rounds slowly to show pressence as deterence to crimes. Very often seen are patrol cars parking at lonely spots checking for licence or road tax which should be the responsiblity of JPJ!

Robertec, can we get the local top brass to see to these kind of SOPs that the cops have - especially the "ambush from the bushes" type... and also about the timings of these so-called ROAD BLOCKS... are these cops out to prevent crimes or looking for opportunity to zap people rushing from point A to point B. Everytime they set-up these roadblocks between 12noon to 1pm- it almost always causes a dumb jam and a 15min drive to pick up the kids from school... would end up being a 30 minute crawl....
Its is also bloody annoying everytime you spot a cop hiding behind a tree trunk looking for "culprits" using handphone or not wearing a seatbelt... then radio-ing his "gang" up the road... to "nab" the "culprit".... funny thing is... half the time ~ instead of just writing up the summons... why the damn CHIT CHAT first!!

On one hand we are supposed to respect and rely on our cops... but then - they do this and all sorts of things/nonsense that completely ruins their reputation...

[zinglicious]

The road blocks set up by police in the daytime is to fulfill the summon quota but the road blocks at night at secluded main road like glenmarie traffic lights junction with just a patrol car, what is that all about? How sensible is that for OCPD or OIC to sanction that? What a waste of armed enforcement especially during midnight where crimes are likely to occur.
Operasi summon trafik can be justified if no armed police officers or JPJ are put on that operation.

[zinglicious]

US cops are trained to catch crimes suspects from hiding behind the buildings whereas Malaysians cops are trained to catch traffic offenders from hiding behind the trees. People in Malaysia dont lives on trees but PDRM do!

[tsd]

look at the SJ Alert, almost every week there is some kind of reported robbery or theft happening just in Subang Jaya, what is happening. Where do these people hide or sell their stuff after robbery.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/forumdisplay.php?f=90

[USJ27Resident]

look at the SJ Alert, almost every week there is some kind of reported robbery or theft happening just in Subang Jaya, what is happening. Where do these people hide or sell their stuff after robbery.



Online Flea markets? :eek:

[ksj_cool]

Y'day night, one pre-school in SS18, was cleaned up by robbers. It was all wired with alarm etc, but the robbers still managed to break in. We need to convert our housing areas to gated communities asap.

[tsd]

what happened the blinking motor bikes petrolling SS18 area ?

[Chia Hak Soon]

One good effort is to get the telephone numbers of your neighbours. Side, opposite and back row. Tell them that in the event of a distress, you may send a short sms like ' Help' and they should call the police and come to investigate with other neighbours. Tell them that if you call to check if there are suspicious character, do not be alarm, just sms back 'Help". This is an effective suggestion being practiced in London, while I was there in my sister's house. It also can serve as an emergency if someone needs to be sent to the Hospital urgently. It also allow you to check if the neighbour's alarm blew, whether intentionally or not. Good Luck

[Sugarfree]

US cops are trained to catch crimes suspects from hiding behind the buildings whereas Malaysians cops are trained to catch traffic offenders from hiding behind the trees. People in Malaysia dont lives on trees but PDRM do!that's a pretty accurate observation. :D

[AllUrban]

I havent seen Malaysian Cops on the bicycles at Subang Jaya especially in busy SS15 and motorbikes making rounds slowly to show pressence as deterence to crimes. Very often seen are police patrol cars parking at lonely spots at main road (i.e.Glenmarie), checking for licence or road tax which should be the responsiblity of JPJ!

For goodness sake,you dont need enforement of guns to take care of road tax or driving without safety belts. BTW, the USA cops dont set up roadblocks to do that! It is just pure luck you get stopped and ticket for that. USA cops are proud to be cops tracking crimes and Malaysia cops are proud to be tracking traffic summons with guns.Very true - and you dont need trained police officers doing clerical work in stations - that is for civilians - like the thousands of unemployed graduates who want to work in a "professional" environment.

Ive said very often that I support community policing - walking the beat, visiting the schools, patrolling on bicycles - and better organization and use of our scarce police resources.

USJ and Subang Jaya should be leading the way - we have a good relationship with the police - but the focus in on burglarly and snatch theft and reporting after the fact - instead of prevention

An ounce of "prevention" will always be worth a pound of "cure"

Cheers, m

[robertec]

Robertec, can we get the local top brass to see to these kind of SOPs that the cops have - especially the "ambush from the bushes" type... and also about the timings of these so-called ROAD BLOCKS... are these cops out to prevent crimes or looking for opportunity to zap people rushing from point A to point B. Everytime they set-up these roadblocks between 12noon to 1pm- it almost always causes a dumb jam and a 15min drive to pick up the kids from school... would end up being a 30 minute crawl....
Its is also bloody annoying everytime you spot a cop hiding behind a tree trunk looking for "culprits" using handphone or not wearing a seatbelt... then radio-ing his "gang" up the road... to "nab" the "culprit".... funny thing is... half the time ~ instead of just writing up the summons... why the damn CHIT CHAT first!!

On one hand we are supposed to respect and rely on our cops... but then - they do this and all sorts of things/nonsense that completely ruins their reputation...


The road blocks set up by police in the daytime is to fulfill the summon quota but the road blocks at night at secluded main road like glenmarie traffic lights junction with just a patrol car, what is that all about? How sensible is that for OCPD or OIC to sanction that? What a waste of armed enforcement especially during midnight where crimes are likely to occur.
Operasi summon trafik can be justified if no armed police officers or JPJ are put on that operation.

I think I have mentioned this before,

1. The cops that "ambush" you during the day for not putting on your safety belts, using the mobile phone, etc... are actually Traffic Cops. Now a days they have been told not to hide behind a bush or anything, so you should be able to spot them easily as they are now usually in plain view.

2. Road blocks can be setup by either the Individual Balais or by the District HQ for various reasons.. robberies, kidnap etc... with the help of PVRs and Rela.

3. Road blocks setup by JPJ for checking road tax, insurance..

As for the "lone" Patrol car spot checking motorist it is perfectly normal, however it is not normal for a lone Patrol car to setup a roadblock. Should you see such an incident in Subang Jaya, note down the Car Number and the District the Patrol Car is from (you can spot a blue oval sticker on the left side of the boot cover with the District Name) and inform the OCS of the nearest Balai Polis. (Don't you dare ask me who they are or their H/P Numbers) As for the Glenmarie junction, I think it may be the juridication of IPD Petaling Jaya or even Shah Alam.

I will bring your various concerns to the attention of the Police when I next meet them during our Community Policing Sessions and dialogues.

The question here is if we organise a tell all with the Police, how many of you will actually attend and discuss your concerns face to face with the cops?

For things to really change many of you have to be walkers instead of just talkers.

[AllUrban]

I will bring your various concerns to the attention of the Police when I next meet them during our Community Policing Sessions and dialogues.

The question here is if we organise a tell all with the Police, how many of you will actually attend and discuss your concerns face to face with the cops?

For things to really change many of you have to be walkers instead of just talkers.Im ready to walk to the meeting to start.

No problem walking around SS15 / SS16 / SS17 either

Cheers, m

[zinglicious]

Agreed that residents should be proactive but still feel that overall policing policies should be overhauled. Otherwise, it not gonna worth much.Asking the neighbour to call the cops i.e. may not be helpful as i read in the blog with comments from tidak apa attitude officer who said tak boleh buat apa apa kerana tak ada jenaya berlaku lagi. Dont expect to armed yourself against the criminials , they may be too professional or desperate.It is the duty of police as they are suppose to be trained tackling crimes with minimal damage.
Overhauling the police means what it means to be the cop.It is not how fast you can monitor the speeding limit but how fast to react to crime prevention.
THE WHOLE LAW AND ORDER HAVE TO CHANGED FROM LAWS AND POLICIES.

Crime happens everywhere from NY to Spore, From Ipoh to KL but IMHO criminals thinks twice before commiting petty crimes like snatch thieves or crouping amass like mat rempits if the police show presence as a deterence. And they know they be rounded within minutes.
I used to owned a coffeeshop at Ipoh who are frequented by ranked police officers friends in uniform attire. Guess what? No one dares to ask for hand out or foreigners selling wares there. And you have VIPs, horse trainers and jockeys dining there because of safety ( maybe not because of my food )

I am not against police writing summons for traffic offenders but crimes needs serious attention as it reaches paranoid state.The punishment metted for the crimes are not be fitting like jailed 4 years for stealing and jailed 4 years for crimes like mat rempit which causes death or coma in the process?

Crimes like robbery is not an act of desperations but an act which requires experiences how to fight and hold weapons or learn how to shoot. It requires them to plan where, which and how to rob. It is a pre mediated crime.

[tupai]

Im ready to walk to the meeting to start.

No problem walking around SS15 / SS16 / SS17 either

Cheers, m

SAYA SOKONG! me2! Anytime as long as i am in the country lah.


Yang Boleh latotupai

[zinglicious]

The question here is if we organise a tell all with the Police, how many of you will actually attend and discuss your concerns face to face with the cops?

For things to really change many of you have to be walkers instead of just talkers.[/QUOTE]

I dont just wanna to walk, or talk but run in order to make this part of the world a safer place.
I willing to offer my restaurant at Wisma Dicor, SS17 for the forum on this Sunday,. Seating capacity inside is about 50 but should there be response, get someone to make arrangement for canopy it would be albe to accomodate many as it is at corner lot. And I think the shell and esso besides my place, mind to let participants to park thier cars at thier premises.

Cepat dan cekap which is the motto of piawaian PDRM.

[zinglicious]

I like to teach the world to stay, in peace and harmony,
with USJ and Subang Polis, we start to turn the key.
If you can talk , try to participate
to make this world a safer place.

It is the real thing, this is what we need to do.
Change our ways and policies to enhance public saftey.
Put traffic cops in the streets to walk the beats
that will be a top pirority in Subang community.

[zinglicious]

It is the real thing, to voice and act accordingly,
Bring back home sweet home memories
instead of potential crime tragedies.

I like the teach the world to sing and sleep in perfect harmony,
From KL to PJ , Subang and USJ.
P E A C E is the real thing!

If IGP can direct traffic polis to keep protesters in that urgency,
upholding laws and peace, He can easily put same police in the community,
to protect, serve, nd prevent crimes from going up so rampantly.

[USJ27Resident]

I think I have mentioned this before,

1. The cops that "ambush" you during the day for not putting on your safety belts, using the mobile phone, etc... are actually Traffic Cops. Now a days they have been told not to hide behind a bush or anything, so you should be able to spot them easily as they are now usually in plain view.

For things to really change many of you have to be walkers instead of just talkers.

Ok... I'll be carrying my 70-300mm VR from now on... and will POST pics here, if I get to shoot ... oops! I mean, photographed them. I happen to know where they love to "hide" every other day... :p

[robertec]

.........I willing to offer my restaurant at Wisma Dicor, SS17 for the forum on this Sunday,. Seating capacity inside is about 50 but should there be response, get someone to make arrangement for canopy it would be albe to accomodate many as it is at corner lot. And I think the shell and esso besides my place, mind to let participants to park thier cars at thier premises.

Cepat dan cekap which is the motto of piawaian PDRM.

Thanks for the offer, but we have to make proper planning for such an event, we cannot treat it like some tea tarik session and we all don't want it to become some Police bashing dialogue like before.

You will also note that there are not as many attendees, but not to worry this is only normal in Subang Jaya. Walking the talk is sadly but a pipe dream of idealist.

There are plans to have more Police interactions with the residents in the coming months especially in the vaious housing areas, so stay tuned.

In the meantime maybe you guys should have a look at what JKP Zone 1 are doing for their Community, give them your full support if you are from the SS12 - SS19 areas.
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=26409

[gary yap]

Ok... I'll be carrying my 70-300mm VR from now on... and will POST pics here, if I get to shoot ... oops! I mean, photographed them. I happen to know where they love to "hide" every other day... :p

Sounded like a weapon to me. :eek: Shoot then talk :D

[USJ27Resident]

Sounded like a weapon to me. :eek: Shoot then talk :D

Its a camera lens la... a pretty LONG one too... to shoot pictures... and as they say... if a picture paints a thousand words... :D

[robertec]

Ok... I'll be carrying my 70-300mm VR from now on... and will POST pics here, if I get to shoot ... oops! I mean, photographed them. I happen to know where they love to "hide" every other day... :p

And whilst you are at it, if you come across any of the baddies especially the suspicious motorcyclist, or even the cars with very dark tints, make sure you take shots at them too.

If you can get them I will post all for SJ Alert members to view.

But please always remember, take all the pictures that you want but always keep out of harms way.

[zinglicious]

[QUOTE=robertec]Thanks for the offer, but we have to make proper planning for such an event, we cannot treat it like some tea tarik session and we all don't want it to become some Police bashing dialogue like before.

You will also note that there are not as many attendees, but not to worry this is only normal in Subang Jaya. Walking the talk is sadly but a pipe dream of idealist.

There are plans to have more Police interactions with the residents in the coming months especially in the vaious housing areas, so stay tuned.

Recalling my days when I first organised public breast awaressness program with Dato Sussela Nair in 1988, both of us just started the balls rolling by having our forum with the PERKEP which is the police officers brass wives association. I got my pharmaceutical company to dole on some funds on refreshment, slides, projecters,and etc and had Dato Suseela Nair to talk.
what happen next, was there were a huge awareness of it , and probably saves some lives in the process.
Similarly, I am practising what I preach of being proactive. Dont just walk, run to the mile.The forum can be successful with a win win situation for the residents and police. There is no need for tongue bashing or embarassment if there is a strong moderator in the meeting. Could be a simple teh tarik but can turn out great if it can foster better understanding of police and public cooperation.
Whether 5 attendetees or 50 doesnt matter, but it has to start to address this urgency. I am sure if the forum can yield some results,you would see many people attend this talk.As far as I see it , there is big hits on this thread already. And residents are thinking of spending money to hire local and foreigners guards to patrol our homes.
It is more logical to spend more meaning efforts to safeguard our homes and get the cops to do more effecient jobs than any villagers foreigners to keep peace at our very home. Ironic but true.
Someone started this thread by talking on the blog,
You start the walk by suggesting forum to participate,
I start to get it running by offering my premises,
well, why the commas?
It simply getting more active residents to participate and perhaps getting some companies like Carrefour and to dole out some goodies or sponsors foods to attract participants. And I think Hannah Yeoh would be the ideal moderator and now it the time to strike the iron when it is hot!
Not easy and not some pipe drteams but out of real issue of necessities and safety.

[AllUrban]

I start to get it running by offering my premises,
well, why the commas?
It simply getting more active residents to participate and perhaps getting some companies like Carrefour and to dole out some goodies or sponsors foods to attract participants. And I think Hannah Yeoh would be the ideal moderator and now it the time to strike the iron when it is hot!
Not easy and not some pipe drteams but out of real issue of necessities and safety.Another option is to host it at a local school/college.

I will sound out the people at Taylor's, can anyone sound out the Admin at Sri KL?

Cheer, m

[smoothead]

Just as an aside...my wife just got her handbag snatched this evening about 4.00pm by a lone motorcyclist in USJ4, somewhere behind the Apollo coffeeshop. Luckily she was not hurt.

As we were making a police report, a lady recounted of another snatch theft yesterday, also in USJ4 near to the school and the Shell petrol station .

So, people, beware...USJ4???

[zinglicious]

Dont ask what the country can do for you but ask what you can do for the country.
Unless we have this philosopy or principles ,nothing gets done in this community. Tutup satu mata when asked to contribute, Tutup dua mata when asked to commit. When crimes happens - apa terjadi? Prevention is the cure especially with proper professional help.
Malaysians mindset is puzzzling if you can consider the fact we hire some Bangladeshi villagers to guard our home sweet home and thinking it is enough to deter house invasion. Then we dont need police enforcement or training to tackle robbery problems
The whole system needs total overhaul from Prime Minister to Home Affairs, MPS to State Assemblymen, starting with ordinary folks like you and me. Malaysia was created by concerned people about independence, Safer Malaysian Homes created by Subang folks would go down in history as well.
idealistic ? No just concerned about safety for loved ones at home!

[tsd]

yep, if all the people of subang jaya work together, I think we will be able to get rid of all the criminals. Once a snatch theft happens.. everyone should come out full force and hunt down that fellow. That fellow will have no place to hide.

Problem is people are not cooperative. Once I was in a bus... I saw a few indon beating up a guy at a bus-stop, then one person come to help... unfortunately he also got beaten badly... the rest of them people just stand there and watch. If everyone (at least more than 10-20 full sized men are there watching ), just grab hold of those people, I think things will be settled pretty fast and nobody gets hurt so badly.

[USJ27Resident]

The whole system needs total overhaul from Prime Minister to Home Affairs, MPS to State Assemblymen, starting with ordinary folks like you and me....!

bro... if you only knew how close we got, to throwing out the rubbish last March 8th... :p


Problem is people are not cooperative. Once I was in a bus... I saw a few indon beating up a guy at a bus-stop, then one person come to help... unfortunately he also got beaten badly... the rest of them people just stand there and watch. If everyone (at least more than 10-20 full sized men are there watching ), just grab hold of those people, I think things will be settled pretty fast and nobody gets hurt so badly.

luckily you were in the bus and not the busstop... sure you oso help... AND KENA WHACK too... :eek: Those fellas did not cooperate... probably because the first guy deserved the whacking... the second guy kena... mebbe because he "sibuk"...

then again - we'd never know whys and whats... would we?

[robertec]

Dont ask what the country can do for you but ask what you can do for the country.
Unless we have this philosopy or principles ,nothing gets done in this community. Tutup satu mata when asked to contribute, Tutup dua mata when asked to commit. When crimes happens - apa terjadi? Prevention is the cure especially with proper professional help.
Malaysians mindset is puzzzling if you can consider the fact we hire some Bangladeshi villagers to guard our home sweet home and thinking it is enough to deter house invasion. Then we dont need police enforcement or training to tackle robbery problems
The whole system needs total overhaul from Prime Minister to Home Affairs, MPS to State Assemblymen, starting with ordinary folks like you and me. Malaysia was created by concerned people about independence, Safer Malaysian Homes created by Subang folks would go down in history as well.
idealistic ? No just concerned about safety for loved ones at home!

Another option is to host it at a local school/college.

I will sound out the people at Taylor's, can anyone sound out the Admin at Sri KL?

Cheer, m

OK, since there are some of you who seem really eager to participate in such interactions with the Police, please contact Mr A. B. Naicker - abnaicker@gmail.com immediately, informing him that you are concerned residents of your respective Subang Jaya Area -SS12 to SS19 (under JKP Zone1) and that you would like to participate in the Dialogue with PDRM to be held on Sunday 19/04/2009 from 2.30pm to 4.30pm.

Just inform Naicker that I strongly recommend that you should become Members of the Subang Jaya Area Action Groups.
I am sure he will refer you to the Area Action Group Leaders.

There is also a MALAM MESRA RAKYAT at the Putra Heights Balai Polis on Saturday 18/04/2009 from 8.00pm for Residents of USJ23 to USJ27, PUTRA HEIGHTS, Kg Tengah and Bkt Lanchong. Details here:
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=26432
This is a chance for residents to get to know their friendly Neighbourhood Policeman and to bring forth their concerns.

As you can see, your not knowing about such initiatives does not necessarily mean that no one in Subang Jaya is doing anything about the crime situation.

It's really good to have more walkers. Maybe your first step should be to join SJ Alert
http://www.sjalert.com.my/online_activation.htm

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[AllUrban]

OK, since there are some of you who seem really eager to participate in such interactions with the Police, please contact Mr A. B. Naicker - abnaicker@gmail.com immediately, informing him that you are concerned residents of your respective Subang Jaya Area -SS12 to SS19 (under JKP Zone1) and that you would like to participate in the Dialogue with PDRM to be held on Sunday 19/04/2009 from 2.30pm to 4.30pm.

Just inform Naicker that I strongly recommend that you should become Members of the Subang Jaya Area Action Groups.
I am sure he will refer you to the Area Action Group Leaders.

It's really good to have more walkers. Maybe your first step should be to join SJ Alert
http://www.sjalert.com.my/online_activation.htm

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=Thanks Robert. I sent the email to Mr. Naicker already. I hope a lot of people make the time to attend.

As for sjalert, I was a member from the beginning but havent received any sms recently. Did you decide whether the sms alerts would continue?

Cheers, m

[robertec]

Actually the meeting is limited to the various Area Action Groups, they will in turn translate the information and action plans to the residents when they go to ground.

I know that you are a member of SJ Alert, but I am surprised that there are still residents who do not know what we are all about.

As for the SJ Alert SMS, we have decided that we will continue with the service, there with also be some slight modifications which we will be announcing very soon.
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[zinglicious]

OK, since there are some of you who seem really eager to participate in such interactions with the Police, please contact Mr A. B. Naicker - abnaicker@gmail.com immediately, informing him that you are concerned residents of your respective Subang Jaya Area -SS12 to SS19 (under JKP Zone1) and that you would like to participate in the Dialogue with PDRM to be held on Sunday 19/04/2009 from 2.30pm to 4.30pm.

Just inform Naicker that I strongly recommend that you should become Members of the Subang Jaya Area Action Groups.
I am sure he will refer you to the Area Action Group Leaders.

As you can see, your not knowing about such initiatives does not necessarily mean that no one in Subang Jaya is doing anything about the crime situation.

It's really good to have more walkers. Maybe your first step should be to join SJ Alert
http://www.sjalert.com.my/online_activation.htm

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To begin with, I am not a Subang Jaya resident yet, but run ning a businesss here. But as a concerned Malaysian, I am offering what I can do to improve the safety of residents not just here but everywhere in Malaysia because robberies do not have actual border.
I walk the talk by offering what I can do for my country but joining Action group to initiate talk is simply out of my means at this moment as I have just started my business here. At least, I am running to offer a platform for immediate action to pursue the acute safety concern at this urgency when a Wakil been harassed. My initiative has had been forthcoming especially I just began to discover this USJ.com in february.

I talk,,blog, and try to run an actual platform for but unable to walk to sign up for the group. Thanks for the reco but no thanks as for the circumstances

As far as the current statistics showed, present actions taken has not been good enough to arrest ongoing cases of personal safety.

It is what I can do for the country ,not what the country can do for me.

P/s we dont have to be member of the Temple to donate our sincere means to help the unfortunate or be the member of MBBS to offer assistance to accident victims.

[zinglicious]

BTW, When I started the breast cancer awareness, I remembered that I asked an inspector friend who was attached to IPK Ipoh and within 10 minutes I was talking to the CPO about having a public forum by Dato Sueela Nair from GH Ipoh in two weeks time. No red tape and formalities. Though Dato Suseela Nair and I were given tokens of appreciations, both of us were just happy that eary detection probably have saves some lives.
In fact, 5 years later, one police officcer patronise my coffeeshop (I changed career then), he recognised me and even thanked me for the program as his sister was diagnosed early by Dato Sussela Nair.
Dato Sueela Nair is one of the leading surgeons in Malaysia, with big self interest in breast disorders and currently at Gleneagles Medical Center after retiring from GH KL.
ME - just a busy body employee who wanted to spend corporation money to saves some lives and currently at Subang Jaya SS 17 promoting healthy meals with no MSG and low salt after returning from USA premier restaurants.

[zinglicious]

Actually the meeting is limited to the various Area Action Groups, they will in turn translate the information and action plans to the residents when they go to ground.

I know that you are a member of SJ Alert, but I am surprised that there are still residents who do not know what we are all about.

As for the SJ Alert SMS, we have decided that we will continue with the service, there with also be some slight modifications which we will be announcing very soon.
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If you want results, IMHO get every residents involved, dont limit it to club members.
Make it a like a carnival event by in forming all residents and hold it regularly at public places. Dont hide out in the college or police stations. Put up banners of intended venues or leaflets or even SMS.It was shown effective in the last GE, right?

Make known to the thugs, Subang residents is serious fed up and would do much with the police to put full stop to this robbery non sense.

[robertec]

To begin with, I am not a Subang Jaya resident yet, but run ning a businesss here. But as a concerned Malaysian, I am offering what I can do to improve the safety of residents not just here but everywhere in Malaysia because robberies do not have actual border.
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Not to worry, there will always be a next time.

[USJ27Resident]

If you want results, IMHO get every residents involved, dont limit it to club members.

Make known to the thugs, Subang residents is serious fed up and would do much with the police to put full stop to this robbery non sense.

You'd be lucky if HALF turns up... some people are just not bothered... they think only bad things happens to other people...not them.

Opps... forgot to mention... there are also "others" - that would TUMPANG, the rest of the neighbours contributions and neighbourhood's safety and civic efforts... you know.... those types... ;)

[zinglicious]

You'd be lucky if HALF turns up... some people are just not bothered... they think only bad things happens to other people...not them.

Opps... forgot to mention... there are also "others" - that would TUMPANG, the rest of the neighbours contributions and neighbourhood's safety and civic efforts... you know.... those types... ;)

If only half of 2000 hosueholds of SS17 alone would to turn up at my restuarant which is at the plain sight of main road, it would be a spectator sight to get the attention of the media and THUGS. Under the banner, WE WILL ROCK YOU, FOR REAL! the message would be loud and clear.The participation of 1000 is enough to rattle the nerve of the thugs and probably motivate the cops when they see this level of commitment.
As I had said in my earlier postings, the breast public forum was not conducted in the hospital venue but right where it matter.The very first venue was held for the police officers wives club ( PERKEP ) where the female patients were. Unthinkable to hold it at YMCA and not at YWCA. Therefore, we dont just talk or walk into the police station to have mesra malam or even in the college hall to get to know aduns or cops. We should be here to RUN A LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGE : WE WILL ROCK YOU, FOR REAL! not to the Yang Berhomats or Cops , but to the THUGS :mad:
Oldies but goodies advice: If one gain the whole world by not giving time and effort like the Yang Bertumpang, but lose his own life........ :eek:
We should never forget what we learn since primary schooling where we are taught.
Better to give than to receive. and Dont ask what the country can do for you, Ask what can you do for the country.
Proud to provide healthy yet tasty food from Zinglicious. Proud to run proactive yet productive action to Malaysia.[/COLOR]

[zinglicious]

An excerpt from The STAR which terrorised Malaysians
FORTY Mat Rempits on 20 motorcyles roamed the streets of Taman Tun Dr Ismail recently and assaulted a housewife and her son at 6.30am. And, the police are asking for eyewitnesses? Is this a joke? Where were the police in the first place? Are they blind and deaf that they cannot hear the roar of 20 bikes?

Doesn’t Taman Tun Dr Ismail have a police station? Doesn’t a group of 40 Mat Rempits in a group classify as illegal assembly? Why weren’t they arrested before they sought a victim?

The Mat Rempits roam the streets in the open. They can be heard and seen. They disrupt our sleep, they terrorise road users and they are high on drugs. Their behavior is anarchic.

I have seen them around the Selangor Club area, openly defying the police, mocking them. The police merely standby ineffectively for sheer lack of numbers or perhaps because of orders from higher up. In Kg Pantai Dalam, they assemble regularly to race on the NPE from midnight till dawn. Why are they not intercepted?

If the police cannot cope, then why isn’t the riot squad roped in? If they are too many to be incarcerated, send them to a rigorous boot camp and turn them into useful citizens.

The citizens’ expectation of the police is that they protect the people by their vigilance, not expect the public to send in eyewitness reports just because they were not at the scene.

The rise in violent crime, the menace of the Mat Rempits, coupled with the indifference and absence of the police have become gangrenous. Does the top police brass have anything to say?

ANGELA JESSIE,

Petaling Jaya.

[gary yap]

Just like the movies, they always comes to late.

[zinglicious]

PETALING JAYA: Many people detest the Mat Rempit because of crimes associated with this group of bikers, and people are now incensed as they are getting more brazen.

Just last Thursday, some 20 Mat Rempit surrounded Kattryn Eng’s 23-year-old daughter, who is deaf and mute, at a petrol kiosk in Subang Jaya at 7am.

They slapped and kicked her daughter before running off with her bag, in the presence of other patrons and attendants.

“My daughter could not even call for help. I am really devastated that such an incident could happen. When my husband brought my daughter to the police station, there were two other parties making similar reports,” said Eng, 57, a travel agent. (Read Eng’s account in the letters page – N30.)

This is in The STAR paper today where finally there is a joint police & JPJ joint action to combat this problem after years of nothing doing.

[gary yap]

To think that last year a former Mat Rempit was saying the Mat Rempits are bored so they're out to seek fun that won't escalate into criminal in nature. Don't lump them together just because of a 'few' rotten apples. KISS MY SWEET BEHIND! :mad:

[zinglicious]

if caught, wonder what the actions of cops & JPJ would do? Confiscate thier bikes?

Why can we jailed them for illegal assembly like the Hindraf?
Hindraf was considered a public nuisance, but how about Mat Rempit?

They congregrate in big numbers, cauing nuisance to motorists, noise at midnight, get bored and do some exciting like robbing, beating handicapped and old people, causing deaths and raping out of boredom!

Amazing but true, somebody stole from supermarket last month and got 2 years for that. Hindraf was detained indenfinitely under ISA.What do MAt Rempits get? Slap on the hand, and maybe I would confiscate the bikes. BTW, the bikes might be stolen anyway.

Instead of national service, we can consider them to go there not for any training of how to use ammo or guns, but as a practice target while there as prisoners for 3 months. The trainee gets more excitment with real target and mat rempits gets out of boredom dodging bullets.

[gary yap]

You can't jail Mat Rempits cause they're also known as Mat Cemerlang :D complimentary from Putera UMNO. Wait till these people start attacking sons of Mentaris or some other VIP then we'll see what action the police is going to take.

[zinglicious]

Mat rempits wont attack mentri or VIP as they only have balls to attack helpless old ladies or handicapped people.So dont expect any action from mentri-mentri.
Up to date, from the police to sharizat, no real action or plan to combat this problem which is the basis of any malaysians citizen - FREEDOM!
Yes, freedom from the rempits to cause anxiety or harm. Safety of the citizen needs immediate action rather than cakap cakap sahaja of NATO( no action talk only)

[tsd]

if they are bored, then have a program to make them busy, one thing comes to my mind is sports. These people likes to show their skills, give them free football/footsal field. Give them table-tennis halls, badminton halls or other sports/games with fully sponsered facilities. They will be too busy to get involve with the motocycle acts.

I always feel our sports ministry are not doing enough for the public. If I want to play a game of football, badminton have pay for it and its not cheap.

For example, One football game on a decent field cost you RM100 and if referee and lines man is required, then another RM200. Imagine RM300 for a game of football. Sports facilities should be provided free, then maybe these people have place to show off their skills and kill their time.

All abandoned land and buldings should be converted into sports facilities, rather than lying there doing nothing.