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wyshin88
19-01-2009, 05:56 PM
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/1/19/nation/20090119132153&sec=nation

As you guys have read on newspaper and maybe some of your friends or family members, collagues or even neighbour has come down with dengue, how do you guys prevent/reduce mosqitoes flying into your house? Mosqito net? Or some high tech equipment? Please Share.

tsd
19-01-2009, 07:53 PM
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/1/19/nation/20090119132153&sec=nation

As you guys have read on newspaper and maybe some of your friends or family members, collagues or even neighbour has come down with dengue, how do you guys prevent/reduce mosqitoes flying into your house? Mosqito net? Or some high tech equipment? Please Share.

My house is fully secured with mosqito netting, even that, a few mosquitos still manage to sneek in. However when outside the house, no way can escape mosqito bites. There are just too many mosqitoes.

I have not seen mosquito fogging in SS18 for a very long time already. I hope they dont wait until few fellow died of dengue in Subang Jaya before "declaring war" on mosquitos.

The authority have to kept on fogging continuesly everyday for few weeks until no more adult mosqitoes are left to bread.

Sentinel
20-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Biasalah... after hundreds have lost their lives then only the garmen launch a capaign / war against dengue / chikungunya (correct spelling ah?). Why can't it be ongoing education and enforcement program? Why must have this knee-jerk reaction after many has succumbed to the illness and kicked the bucket? Biasalah....

bugbear
20-01-2009, 02:21 AM
About time too if I might add. Dengue is a very dangerous disease in the same league with the Ebola of Africa. Information is the only way we can do to combat this disease. More than 100 people have died from Dengue whereas it used to be Malaria used to be the number one killer in the past. In fact Dengue is the leading killer infective diseases in Malaysia. The point here is that dengue is not happening in the rural area but in urban setting like USJ!!!

Sentinel
20-01-2009, 02:25 AM
About time too if I might add. Dengue is a very dangerous disease in the same league with the Ebola of Africa. Information is the only way we can do to combat this disease. More than 100 people have died from Dengue whereas it used to be Malaria used to be the number one killer in the past. In fact Dengue is the leading killer infective diseases in Malaysia. The point here is that dengue is not happening in the rural area but in urban setting like USJ!!!

And where is the Minister of Health? Knee-jerk reaction after hundreds have lost their lives... if I write anymore at this time in the morning, it might even wake up KWChang to issue some bananas.... no politics yah, esp venomous ones from Sentinel aka Han2!

bugbear
20-01-2009, 03:15 AM
And where is the Minister of Health? Knee-jerk reaction after hundreds have lost their lives... if I write anymore at this time in the morning, it might even wake up KWChang to issue some bananas.... no politics yah, esp venomous ones from Sentinel aka Han2!
I am sure the MOH are doing their best to containt this menace. But I really hope there are more enforcement of the rule by health inspector while doing their rounds around housing estate.

tsd
20-01-2009, 06:06 AM
I am sure the MOH are doing their best to containt this menace. But I really hope there are more enforcement of the rule by health inspector while doing their rounds around housing estate.

we have been hunting the breeding grounds for ages, it wont work. There will always be breeding grounds. All these enforcement and saman wont work. There will always be breeding ground outside our house or abandoned houses.

We should try another method, that is to destroy all the adult mosquitos. Mosquito larva will come out from water in just few days and if not mistaken male mosquito are ussually outdoor type. They can be easily destroyed by fogging.

So if we should do fogging everyday for 1 week or 2, we will be able to completely destroy all the adult mosquitos ( especially the males ). There will be no more mosquitos to breed. This should be done at the same time in whole country at the same time to make sure no mosquito come in from neigbouring town.

tsd
20-01-2009, 09:38 PM
wow!!! today got mosquito fogging in SS18 :)

QuietStorm
20-01-2009, 09:40 PM
A friend who lives in Putra Heights just got admitted today for dengue! :eek:

QuietStorm
20-01-2009, 09:41 PM
wow!!! today got mosquito fogging in SS18 :)That may mean someone in the area is down with dengue! :eek:

tsd
20-01-2009, 09:45 PM
That may mean someone in the area is down with dengue! :eek:

:mad: lets hope not

QuietStorm
20-01-2009, 09:50 PM
:mad: lets hope notUsually, it is..unless you're staying in a condo, then it's different. Hope I got it wrong.

wyshin88
20-01-2009, 10:06 PM
It is true, the more they come to fog the area, that means someone is down with dengue in that area. My dad was down with dengue last week and they came to my house to fog the entire house and also the whole Damansara Area. There are roughly a few cases of dengue in Damansara alone in that week....scary!!!

bugbear
31-01-2009, 11:44 AM
Please be very careful of dengue (https://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17421/84/) and its outbreak in most part of Malaysia due to the raining season.

gtl
03-02-2009, 05:15 PM
they shd regularly fog the whole of subang to STOP Denggi. by fogging when they r people infected is too reactive to me.
btw, try go to the USJ 2 park around 6pm, you get swamp of mosquitos trying to eat you alive.

CCY
03-02-2009, 06:39 PM
Please be very careful of dengue (https://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/17421/84/) and its outbreak in most part of Malaysia due to the raining season.

A different view on this issue and it is quite logical anyway . Maybe it's time to look at it seriously .

http://www.bakrimusa.com/

tsd
03-02-2009, 07:31 PM
they shd regularly fog the whole of subang to STOP Denggi. by fogging when they r people infected is too reactive to me.
btw, try go to the USJ 2 park around 6pm, you get swamp of mosquitos trying to eat you alive.

I dont even have to go to parks to get bitten, I just step outside my house, the mosquitos are all over me.

they are not doing enough, do fogging one day, then stop for a long time... by then new mosquito will come out from the water they will breed again.

Best is continue fogging for several days and that gives no chance of new mosquito that comes out from the water to survive. This should be able to get rid of all the male mosquitos, which is mostly outdoor... indoor female mosquito cant breed by themselves. We dont even have to spend the money and manpower to hunt for breeding grounds.

CCY
04-02-2009, 09:33 AM
Best is continue fogging for several days and that gives no chance of new mosquito that comes out from the water to survive. This should be able to get rid of all the male mosquitos, which is mostly outdoor... indoor female mosquito cant breed by themselves. We dont even have to spend the money and manpower to hunt for breeding grounds.

Is this action amounting to treating the symptoms of the disease than to seek the root cause of the disease...? If we cannot even identify where these mozzies are breeding then what are the chances that we're able to rid these mozzies off....

bugbear
04-02-2009, 09:44 AM
I dont even have to go to parks to get bitten, I just step outside my house, the mosquitos are all over me.

they are not doing enough, do fogging one day, then stop for a long time... by then new mosquito will come out from the water they will breed again.

Best is continue fogging for several days and that gives no chance of new mosquito that comes out from the water to survive. This should be able to get rid of all the male mosquitos, which is mostly outdoor... indoor female mosquito cant breed by themselves. We dont even have to spend the money and manpower to hunt for breeding grounds.
What you are suggesting about is not practical. At that rate MOH will be out of manpower and chemical for fogging. FYI, fogging also leave a residual effect on the wall of your house or sewer where mossie are liable to cling to. The residual effect of the chemical will kill newer mossie. That is why it is important to open your house for fogging and not close all your window and door when the team came over. The DG has been voicing his frustration at the non- cooperation given by people on the ground. :cool:

tsd
04-02-2009, 12:28 PM
What you are suggesting about is not practical. At that rate MOH will be out of manpower and chemical for fogging. FYI, fogging also leave a residual effect on the wall of your house or sewer where mossie are liable to cling to. The residual effect of the chemical will kill newer mossie. That is why it is important to open your house for fogging and not close all your window and door when the team came over. The DG has been voicing his frustration at the non- cooperation given by people on the ground. :cool:

we kill all adult male mosquito which is mostly outdoor. Thats the end of the mosquito. We talk about war against the mosquito... we should go all out.

Wat we are doing now, we do fogging, then stop to allow new mosquito to hatch, they will bread again... when will this end ? Mosquito will always be able to find place to breed. We have tried to clear breeding ground for ages, it does not work. What is see is people just pass the blame to another. Just get rid of all adult mosquito, no more mosquito to breed. Money and manpower is non-issue, they have the money and manpower.

tsd
04-02-2009, 03:44 PM
another way is to elimiate the virus itself, everyone who kena any slight fever will be quarantine, safe from further mosquito bites. Eventually all the carier mosquito die of old age, new mosquito dont have anymore virus to carry.

bugbear
04-02-2009, 04:20 PM
another way is to elimiate the virus itself, everyone who kena any slight fever will be quarantine, safe from further mosquito bites. Eventually all the carier mosquito die of old age, new mosquito dont have anymore virus to carry.
I am afraid it is not possible to eliminate dengue as long as we are in South East Asia and the mosquitoes are around. Our MOH aim is never to eliminate but to control this disease. I am sure MOH is doing all it can to eliminate this manace but that cannot be only their responsibility. People like us must also help to eliminate breeding ground.

tsd
04-02-2009, 09:58 PM
I am afraid it is not possible to eliminate dengue as long as we are in South East Asia and the mosquitoes are around. Our MOH aim is never to eliminate but to control this disease. I am sure MOH is doing all it can to eliminate this manace but that cannot be only their responsibility. People like us must also help to eliminate breeding ground.

You can't elimiate breeding grounds, mosquito can breed even with 1mm of water. I have even seen mosquito breeding on breeding on dried leaves with water on it. So many drains, mosquito need only a few days to become fully grown adults... can you ensure all drains are free of water ? Even those gutter on your roof can be breeding ground, are you going to climb up to your roof regularly to check for breeding grounds ? We need to try different ways to fight denggue, why kept on doing something that does not work.

kwchang
04-02-2009, 11:04 PM
I believe the most effective method is to trap the mossies - if any of the DIY gurus in this forum can come up with a simple trap, that would go a long way.

All you need is to invest in some small fans (like the cheap cooling fans for computer PCs), a UV light source (like the ones used by the currency-check devices) and a black contraption (use discarded cardboard) and some muslin cloth. Have the UV light on top of the trap to attract the insects, put the fans above the light to blow down onto a muslin bag.

Hang a few of these around your house and it may actually trap most of the flying insects including the mosquitoes. Next is just to spray the muslin layer with insecticide to kill the mosquitoes before you switch off the fan.

CCY
05-02-2009, 08:53 AM
I believe the most effective method is to trap the mossies - if any of the DIY gurus in this forum can come up with a simple trap, that would go a long way.

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Hang a few of these around your house and it may actually trap most of the flying insects including the mosquitoes. Next is just to spray the muslin layer with insecticide to kill the mosquitoes before you switch off the fan.

Is there an effective mozzies lure/bait like methyl eugenol which is available for the common fruitfly . I don't think the lightlamp is effective in attracting these mozzies. I wipe off thousands of male fruitfly during the last fruiting season using a 6 inch diameter plastic container punch with holes and a swab of eugenol hanging inside.

maxima
05-02-2009, 09:42 AM
I believe the most effective method is to trap the mossies - if any of the DIY gurus in this forum can come up with a simple trap, that would go a long way.

All you need is to invest in some small fans (like the cheap cooling fans for computer PCs), a UV light source (like the ones used by the currency-check devices) and a black contraption (use discarded cardboard) and some muslin cloth. Have the UV light on top of the trap to attract the insects, put the fans above the light to blow down onto a muslin bag.

Hang a few of these around your house and it may actually trap most of the flying insects including the mosquitoes. Next is just to spray the muslin layer with insecticide to kill the mosquitoes before you switch off the fan.


I once read about some award-winning newly-invented mosquito trapping devices but just couldn't find any of that on the market, wonder why ?

Beside keeping the surrounding clean, I think the best way to control the breeding of them is to increase their natural enemy/predator. and what is it ?
I don't think fogging is a good way, the mosquitos might be resistant to it and grow even sronger.

I know a friend form Myanmar telling that they sleep in bednet and nobody do fogging there yet there are rare mosquito desease cases, why is it ? Is their country cleaner, their mosquito less attacking, their bodies stronger, or ?

However, we ought to enhance our bodies' natural immune system.

FYI, some of my acquainted striken by the Chikuqunya desease recently took papaya leave juice, vineger, and enzyme to recover.

tsd
05-02-2009, 09:48 AM
I once read about some award-winning newly-invented mosquito trapping devices but just couldn't find any of that on the market, wonder why ?

Beside keeping the surrounding clean, I think the best way to control the breeding of them is to increase their natural enemy/predator. and what is it ?
I don't think fogging is a good way, the mosquitos might be resistant to it and grow even sronger.

I know a friend form Myanmar telling that they sleep in bednet and nobody do fogging there yet there are rare mosquito desease cases, why is it ? Is their country cleaner, their mosquito less attacking, their bodies stronger, or ?

However, we ought to enhance our bodies' natural immune system.

FYI, some of my acquainted striken by the Chikuqunya desease recently took papaya leave juice, vineger, and enzyme to recover.

yep, mosquito trap is another good idea. Gov should take initiative to mass produce the traps and make them available everywhere.

bugbear
05-02-2009, 12:21 PM
You can't elimiate breeding grounds, mosquito can breed even with 1mm of water. I have even seen mosquito breeding on breeding on dried leaves with water on it. So many drains, mosquito need only a few days to become fully grown adults... can you ensure all drains are free of water ? Even those gutter on your roof can be breeding ground, are you going to climb up to your roof regularly to check for breeding grounds ? We need to try different ways to fight denggue, why kept on doing something that does not work.
Didn't I say that dengue cannot be eliminated? What the MOH can do is to control the manace until someone can come out with a better solution. We can minimise the effect if we will only tried our best.