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tbearer
12-12-2008, 03:32 PM
Hi,

I am looking for someone/course to teach me how to make my website more visible.

So far, the person or course all costs about RM10,000 for a 3-5 days course. This is truly beyond my budget.

Anyone has contact that offers at least half of that price?

Thanks.

bobkee
12-12-2008, 04:21 PM
Just do a search on SEO training.

kuma
13-12-2008, 01:49 AM
Hi,

I am looking for someone/course to teach me how to make my website more visible.

So far, the person or course all costs about RM10,000 for a 3-5 days course. This is truly beyond my budget.

Anyone has contact that offers at least half of that price?

Thanks.

You don't have to pay much to get your website optimized if you are prepared to read and learn 'how to' yourself. However, since SEO (Search Engine Optimization) is a science, albeit not exactly 'precise' - thus there are various techniques involved and the so called trainers or 'gurus' who charge exorbitant fees claim to have their own unique methods to get your site to page 1 on Google fast.

Note that they will only teach you what to do, you still got to do it yourself. So if you don't want to spend much, then all that you need to know about SEO is available for FREE if you search on Google. Believe me, just about everything the 'guru' is going to teach you is available for free online.

However, there is so much information out there that you may end up reading outdated techniques and possibly end up reading for the rest of your life. The 'Gurus' know this and that's why they can charge so high. What you are paying them is for them to cut short your learning curve.

Remember this....SEO and it's implementation is 'almost' FREE, however it can be very tedious and time consuming if you choose to do it yourself. It's best you use some tools and/or outsource some of the requirements which can be a chore as they need be done daily. Use the money that you are prepared to spend towards this.

PM me, I'll see what I can do to help lead you in the right direction.

Kuma

tbearer
13-12-2008, 11:18 AM
thanks bobkee and kuma for your feedback.

kuma
14-12-2008, 02:11 AM
thanks bobkee and kuma for your feedback.

No problem. Just curious...what's your decision?

Are you planning to learn it yourself or going to pay $10K to someone?

Google has recently released a SEO guide which is a short report and and easy read with good information. Look for it on Google if you can't find it, I can send it to you.

blurrman
14-12-2008, 09:01 AM
tbearer,


Google Search Engine Optimization Starter Guide
http://www.google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf



http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35291

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/internet/google-ranking-factors.htm

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/11/googles-seo-starter-guide.html

http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors

hope these help

tbearer
14-12-2008, 10:10 PM
No problem. Just curious...what's your decision?

Are you planning to learn it yourself or going to pay $10K to someone?

Google has recently released a SEO guide which is a short report and and easy read with good information. Look for it on Google if you can't find it, I can send it to you.

Kuma, have been so busy this weekend, hadnt look into SEO yet.

definitely not forking out RM10k for it. will definitely get back to you soon.

thanks.

tbearer
14-12-2008, 10:11 PM
tbearer,


Google Search Engine Optimization Starter Guide
http://www.google.com/webmasters/docs/search-engine-optimization-starter-guide.pdf



http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35291

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/internet/google-ranking-factors.htm

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/11/googles-seo-starter-guide.html

http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors

hope these help

thanks blurrman. will definitely look into this.

kuma
15-12-2008, 12:33 AM
Kuma, have been so busy this weekend, hadnt look into SEO yet.

definitely not forking out RM10k for it. will definitely get back to you soon.

thanks.

Ok, thats good. No need to spend such a big amount. Also, you dont need to get to me for Google's SEO PDF. Blurrman has already posted the link for you.

All the best. If you are not stressed by datelines...SEO can be fun. Absolute thrill to see your efforts get your site on Page 1.

kuma
15-12-2008, 03:20 AM
This news just out....

"Google this week admitted that its staff will pick and choose what appears in its search results. It's a historic statement - and nobody has yet grasped its significance.

Not so very long ago, Google disclaimed responsibility for its search results by explaining that these were chosen by a computer algorithm. The disclaimer lives on at Google News, where we are assured that:

The selection and placement of stories on this page were determined automatically by a computer program."

READ MORE HERE (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/12/googlewashing_revisited/)


HERE IS WHAT THE IT COMMUNITY IS SAYING (http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/35957-google-admits-staff-will-pick-choose-search-results.html)

Bottom line...it's all about your content.

online12793
17-12-2008, 02:22 PM
Hi,

I am looking for someone/course to teach me how to make my website more visible.

So far, the person or course all costs about RM10,000 for a 3-5 days course. This is truly beyond my budget.

Anyone has contact that offers at least half of that price?

Thanks.

PM me and i will give you some tips and point you in the right direction on how to do it yourself.

tohca
19-12-2008, 07:42 PM
I've started my website, The Malaysian Explorer (http://www.malaysian-explorer.com/about-me.html) about 3 months ago and so far traffic has been improving. It takes lots of hard work to get it there though. What you need is not something that works (SEOs) until the next shift at the Search Engines (particularly Google and Yahoo), but something that will remain irrespective of changes made by the search engines.

And that is content and not just some twigs by the SEOs. Apart from that you'd need to create lots of inbound links (sometimes called backlinks) to your site.

There's lots of discussions about this on the web, and not everyone agrees with this stand.

You do not need to hire any marketing guru or company to do it for you, if you have the time to study a little each day and work at improving your site (meaning adding more relevant contents too).

Be mindful though that all this happens over time and not overnight.

Cheers and wishing you every success in driving traffic to your website.

tbearer
20-12-2008, 12:31 PM
Tohca, thanks for the wishes.

Kuma is helping me out on this.