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cherrybaby
02-11-2008, 11:16 PM
Hi to all the parents out there!!

I'm troubled:( , Because I'm tied down with my work during this coming December:( . I know is holiday season. So i was hoping to send my child for some holiday programs. :rolleyes:

Any of you parents got any good recommendation regarding holiday program or holiday camp..... please do let me know. OK :)

Have a nice and wonderful day.
Thanks.

Mammoth
03-11-2008, 08:32 AM
How old are your child?

cherrybaby
03-11-2008, 04:31 PM
Hi, :D

My youngest son is 5 yr old, elder son is 7 yr old.
Got any good recomendation regarding ant good holiday program.
It would be nice if both of them can join, :) and preferably in USJ area. :p

Thanks a Bunch.

SummerEve
04-11-2008, 03:30 PM
Why don't you check out www.younme.com.my ? They are located right in the middle of Taipan. They have a holiday program in December, which also include one day outing as well. I think this a good way to expose your children. Pay them a visit, I'm sure you will be impress with their setup and facilities there.

I'll be sending my two years old son there next January for their right brain development program. Unfortunately he is too young to attend their holiday program in this coming December. :( :( :(

maze79
04-11-2008, 04:00 PM
Hi SummerEve. and Cherrybaby

Yes, i do agree with summereve, actually you can try out younme, it most certainly matches your criteria, 1st of all is in Taipan, 2nd is in December, and and lastly they are taking in children at the age range of 5 to 8 if i'm not mistaken.

I'll be sending my child over since he is 6. He's gonna love it a lot, it would be nice if he participate some meaningful activities during this holiday instead of staying at home.

kwchang
04-11-2008, 04:16 PM
This thread sounds like the usual advertisement scam moving in by the back-door ... which is to ask an innocent question and later one or two answers come on to support a product or service-provider.

Unfortunately they forgot to cover their steps along the way and I checked to find out that Maze79 and CherryBaby are one and the same person. I would not be surprised that SummerEve is the same person or in the same company.

How to know? Simple - SummerEve and Maze79 constantly post to the same child activity threads.

I am now suspending all 3 of them for advertisement as well as attempting to hood-wink our community.

Mammoth
05-11-2008, 08:18 AM
Wow...didn't know that this is a scam. Thanks to our sharp eye Administrator. Just a bit curious, how do you ascertain that they are same person despite that their IP is different?

kwchang
05-11-2008, 09:14 AM
I have looked deeper into this and I found even more rats in the system. Once I have checked thoroughly, I will expose all for all to see.

monkey01
05-11-2008, 05:21 PM
Not supporting scam..... but as a parent and teacher myself, I found this informative, I don't even realise there's such a learning centre available. Mr.Mod, can I suggest a thread where we can properly post some useful information for the growth of the community?

Blue Jasmine
05-11-2008, 05:52 PM
why they so bad one...if wanna advertise just say so la...aiyor..do u think is the owner of that place? that day i some more go and visit the website..aiyor..,but to think about it..if they really advertise like that i wouldnt even check out the websites...human,,,hehehe

kwchang
05-11-2008, 05:55 PM
...can I suggest a thread where we can properly post some useful information for the growth of the community?
Please continue the discussion. I did not close the thread ... I just made an observation as I am always on the watch for advertisements, especially those that make it sound like the business is highly recommended. I need to be careful that our members do not get mis-informed. One form of protection is to check on possible scams where the business partners come on pretending to be satisfied customers.

ps - I am still checking on the suspected members who were planted by one or two persons. Please be aware that the centre (younme) is probably trying to promote itself through this sneaky way

birdy
06-11-2008, 05:33 AM
why they so bad one...if wanna advertise just say so la...aiyor..do u think is the owner of that place? that day i some more go and visit the website..aiyor..,but to think about it..if they really advertise like that i wouldnt even check out the websites...human,,,hehehe
I wouldn't want to send my children to go there..... looking at their website, I only see 3 teachers! To me, it is short of teacher, some more there are outings during the holiday...can 3 of the teachers take good care of so many children? :eek:

kwchang
07-11-2008, 01:41 AM
Wouldn't you want to know?

I checked the profiles of new members who asked about and recommended children camps in this thread. Guess what I found?

Cherrybaby - registered email address = adrian****@yahoo.com
(I have added the asterix to hide the full address for privacy)

When I asked the server to look for this same email address, I was shocked to find that this same person (adrian) had registered several nicks for the Forum -

prometheus85 - joined 17-08-08
maze79 - joined 21-08-08
cherrybaby - joined 29-08-08
mamamia - joined 29-08-08

When SummerEve recommended "younme" - it did not click because she wasn't registered by "adrian" like the others ... so I checked, just in case

SummerEve was registered by "waltan**@gmail.com"
So, check on this waltan and guess what I found? - 6 nicks registered by waltan :-

youNme - joined 05-06-07
wallace - joined 05-06-07
SummerEve - joined 04-09-08

There were 3 more nicks but those nicks did not post anything ... probably spares waiting to be used later or he had forgotten the passwords.

What did they post?

youNme posted (on 08-10-07) to ask for auditoriums for a talk for 300pax - note the name? Isn't it that child centre?

wallace posted different topics but he also posted in a thread advertising a children talk (I had removed that advert when it appeared) posted by a nick "you&me" - see the connection?

Then wallace ventured to start a thread which carried a story that while he was looking for a kindie for his son, he came across one (gave a website link) and guess what? He got replies from prometheus85 (adrian) and SummerEve (waltan) :eek: (I have now removed that thread based on this revelation)

So what about the apparently innocent SummerEve?
She started a thread asking about a kindie for her 2-year-old. (Time of post was 07-09-2008, 07:26 PM ). Was introduced to one by our member but she then posted an answer that she found "younme" which accepted 2-yr -old kids. (Time of post was 10-09-2008, 05:04 PM).

Then they decided to advertise big time ...
I also found a whole thread dedicated to advertising younme and it was a string of comments by almost the whole cast ... prometheus85, maze79, cherrybaby, mamamia ...and... SummerEve !!

What was funny was mamamia had to delete one post because it was having the exact same IP as prometheus85 (within the same hour) and then after 10 minutes mamamia re-posted that same post using a different IP.

This shows that this guy knows we can check their IP addresses and thus had been very careful about having multiple nicks. He was probably posting off different computers which were logged in differently to have different nicks. Read it yourself - you will find that it is actually posted by one person ... all the nicks post in the same conversational style. I have released it back to the "education" forum for all to see - the thread is Need recommendation on Children's Enrichment centre (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=24001)

Just to think, they had been doing this one big advertising campaign on the sly. It is not so much about him bypassing our anti-advert scrutiny but the way he went about it - pretending to be happy customers endorsing the child centre.

I know life is difficult, too much competition ... but this is not the way to advertise. Sometimes people think they are smart but it can back-fire.

Blue Jasmine
07-11-2008, 10:21 AM
i totally agree with you on these. Just see how cunning these ppl are nowadays. And to cheat us to go into their training centre? Luckily you found this out...Not honest person , i wonder what will happen if i sent my kids there...