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Chia Hak Soon
14-10-2008, 10:31 AM
I have decided to boycott hawker's food unless they reduce their prices.
During the fuel price increase, they have increase a bowl of mee from 3.50 to 4.50 per plate. Now that the fuel has dropped they have maintained at Rm4,50 and the portion are smaller. Lets boycott them forumners, get rid of these money sucking bugs. Imagine a chinese tea cost rm0.60 sen and the tea leaves are doubtful.

wyshin88
14-10-2008, 10:34 AM
I have decided to boycott hawker's food unless they reduce their prices.
During the fuel price increase, they have increase a bowl of mee from 3.50 to 4.50 per plate. Now that the fuel has dropped they have maintained at Rm4,50 and the portion are smaller. Lets boycott them forumners, get rid of these money sucking bugs. Imagine a chinese tea cost rm0.60 sen and the tea leaves are doubtful.

I am with you!!! I bring my lunch everyday.

ESLord
14-10-2008, 10:35 AM
Agree! I am in too....

tsd
14-10-2008, 10:51 AM
I did not increase the price of my Pumpkin Pau when the petrol price went up :) therefore I will not be reducing the price of my paus, so dont boycot me okay :D

fyi, the size of my pau and fillings remains the same.

coleslaw
14-10-2008, 10:59 AM
I have decided to boycott hawker's food unless they reduce their prices.
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don't hold yr breath... :rolleyes:

Blue Jasmine
14-10-2008, 11:06 AM
even the bb sitter increase the price. last time 550-600 a mth (5 day a week)
now they go and say 700 a mth ...add 30 when bb eats...

so now oil reduce they also shld reduce ma...but honestly they wont,,,,even the hawkers too...why is this so?

Cause they all got one thing in common. GREED !!!

jayded
14-10-2008, 11:18 AM
yes....its terrible. as i said...u ask for tambah udang or kerang for CKT they charge u rm 2 additional. the portions are all smaller now.

ask means...they say...semua sudah naik.

nobody go means i want to see what they have to say.

but knowing malaysians...they will keep going.

wyshin88
14-10-2008, 11:35 AM
Or actually the whole scenario is like chicken and egg. They need to live a lfie too, they got bills to pay too, but none is reduced, so they have to charge the same rate too, and we have to pay the same rate too :mad:

silver_bird
14-10-2008, 12:11 PM
Chia Hak Soon
Imagine a chinese tea cost rm0.60 sen and the tea leaves are doubtful.

No need to order drink especially when eating Meehoon soup.
Imagine a family of four could save us RM 8-00 for drinks alone.

wecare
14-10-2008, 12:25 PM
agreed, let's boycott those that have increased the price...worst part is the govt is taking time to consider reducing the petrol price or they are still counting the $$$ make from the recent rise. Doubtful the hawkers and the rest of the chain will reduce their price after what pak lah has done....the petrol price should be review on a daily basis like countries in USA...for the benefit of the consumers...

USJ27Resident
14-10-2008, 12:47 PM
the petrol price should be review on a daily basis like countries in USA...for the benefit of the consumers...

Ya right! and the freaking Petrol Dealers Associations is gonna cry bloody murder... :mad: Like I said in another thread, just wait and see... theres gonna be a bloody shortage of petrol in the Klang Valley the moment the crude prices drops to USD 73-74 ....

Why... ask Shahril Samad :rolleyes:

bslee
14-10-2008, 12:56 PM
Why... ask Shahril Samad :rolleyes:

The gahmen would have lost millions in subsidies or whatever during the price inflation if they'd maintained the RM1.92 price till now. The loss seems to have shifted to petrol dealers instead or oil companies instead, not to mention the rakyat is affected in various degrees and due to other reasons that relate to the petrol price, where we can do NOTHING but mumble and and grumble. The gahmen are not wanting to loose money so its passed on somewhere else to absorb it all. Thats BeeEnd for you all.

firefox
14-10-2008, 02:29 PM
Teach these hawkers a lesson by boycotting their outlets, they are miniting large some of profits and using lame excuses for their exorbitant increases.

bslee
14-10-2008, 02:43 PM
Cheh.. I don't have faith in talk of "boycott" in this country. It DOESN'T work!
Go see the restaurants and hawker coffee shops in USJ or Subang during lunchtime. Do you think anyone really bother?.. they eat and be merry..simple and true.. Even if they purge and stomach ache, its entirely another issue.
Just self ban will do lah! Like me..so many shops in USJ/Subang I refuse to go..even for FREE makan!. That include those "old style" (NEW actually) kopitiams and the sorts. Whats so good about the coffee and whatever they serve at rediculous prices?.. yet the place is thriving every evening and nite. Is there something wrong with the Malaysian mindset?..

chin_wan
14-10-2008, 03:03 PM
Sorry to spoil your "protest" but I love hawker food too much to boycott them. :(

xweird
14-10-2008, 03:07 PM
If really want to boycott also should be reasonable in the boycott la... don't simply boycott, maybe we might be affecting their livelihood as well... you know la, a lot of gangsters harassing coffee shop owners nowadays...

firefox
14-10-2008, 03:08 PM
Sorry to spoil your "protest" but I love hawker food too much to boycott them. :(

Glad that you are not complaining of the high prices of hawker food..just eat it !!! afterall someone has to make the profits if you have no qualms about it.

bslee
14-10-2008, 04:48 PM
I wonder if those location owners increased rentals to the hawkers or not?..
YB Lim GE is already calling TNB for letrik rates to be reduced. (news report)
THAT'S the kind of quick thinking chief of state I admire who SERVE the people unlike those who rest on their laurels.

H.S.Seah
15-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Boycott and they will realise that they cannot simply imposed a price hike .
As one forumner suggest , if you have to order soup do not order drinks. When business are bad, they will ask for lower rental and everything will follow suit.

Supports the ones that maintain their old price and if his volume increased the rest will follow. you can play a part .

bslee
15-10-2008, 04:58 PM
I almost NEVER order drinks. There's always a bottle or drinking water in my car (which was once more expensive than petrol). Why should I fork out 50sen for warm rotten quality chinese tea?, why should I pay 30sen for air suam thats likely not filtered and in a dirty looking plastic glass?. why should I condone to inferior standards with a high price tag!. I look for value and acceptable quality for the amount I pay.
I'm NOT going to tell anyone openly to BOYCOTT. The politicians ruling the country only tok kok are not at liberty to do much, moreover allow the rakyat to get screwed up frequently. You think they really care?. someone somewhere has to DIE first before real action is forthcoming. Last and not least, You, I and 25 million rakyat all are endowed with brains...use it.

firefox
15-10-2008, 05:02 PM
In Penang in Chinese resturants if you dont order any drinks you are summoned to pay 40 cents, this hasnt caught up here yet. What do you say to this?

bslee
15-10-2008, 05:03 PM
In Penang in Chinese resturants if you dont order any drinks you are summoned to pay 40 cents, this hasnt caught up here yet. What do you say to this?

Four letter words and I swear I won't go to that shop. There's always shops operated by other races that won't do that. I think I suggest YB LGE to see that this arrogant practice is put to an end. Its outright criminal!. How about you drop him a mail and tell him who does it.

Firebird
15-10-2008, 05:34 PM
Four letter words and I swear I won't go to that shop.Same here and I'll spice it up with some motherly words, too. :mad:

Firebird
15-10-2008, 05:41 PM
Why should I fork out 50sen for warm rotten quality chinese tea?Exactly. Most of the time, the tea has been left overnight and sold the next day. One sip and one can tell. It has got an odd taste to it. :mad:

Jey
15-10-2008, 05:58 PM
Unfortunately, boycotting wont work as food is a basic necessity that no one can do without. You can get some ppl to stay away from some of the eateries for some of the time but you cannot get everyone to do the same as its a basic necessity in life. Simple economics will tell u that as long the demand cannot be eliminated, the supply will flourish.

But to be honest with you guys, I'm also running a restaurant business and I will tell you that the last few months has seen the prices of inputs or ingredients soar high to the sky. And this is no gimmick or excuse. I understand that alot of ppl will find it hard to understand the way things work but I will let you all in one a SECRET. If you think that most of the eateries are actually taking advantage of the present situation to increase their prices, I think you got that part wrong. If ever there were any such greedy operators who did that then they are not business savvy at all and they will soon be out of business. It is always an advantage to be able to sell below the market price coz you can become the cost leader and you will have an unfair advantage over the rest of the competition when ur price is lower. Even when an eatery is considering increasing say 10c for its teh tarik or roti canai, then it will actually do a survey with the surrounding operators pricing b4 any such increase. No one will want to price theirs above their existing environment as its a DISADVANTAGE for them as they will shoo their customers away.

If you take other business traders also, its the same principle. Even in some trading zones, some of the traders prices are regulated and they will NOT BE ALLOWED to sell below that area;s pricing. They can actually get bashed up if they did that in some triad controlled selling zones. You can very well sell it above the ceiling price but not below it. If you are running a brand distributorship, you can actually be complained against and you could lose your distributorship if you sell below the market. Some call this "undercutting" . Just to give you an example.

So think for a moment, undercutting in any business is actually gaining an advantage over the competition. Back to why our food prices are still not down yet. As a food biz operator I can tell you that the inputs prices are still soaring sky high. Its been like that even after the so-called fuel decrease in Sept. The decrease in fuel DID NOTHING to the inputs prices. The impact on the market forces, thanks to the gahmen's fuel price increase has caused the spiralling of the inputs prices and it is still on the same trend even as I write this. Some ppl expect to see "knee-jerk" kind of responses from the way fuel price hikes and food price increases or decreases. While its true that the upward trend seems almost like "knee-jerk" unfortunately the same cannot be expected for the downward trend as the market has been de-stabilized and it will take a while to reach an equilibrium or even a decrease in prices if at all that is possible.

Food biz operators are part of a supply chain. They do not dictate the prices of the inputs or ingredients and as long as the inputs prices dont come down, they would be hard-pressed to do otherwise.


All of us have been disadvantaged alike.

:( :mad:

regines
15-10-2008, 10:39 PM
whr is ur pau shop ? i wan 2 try !!!



I did not increase the price of my Pumpkin Pau when the petrol price went up :) therefore I will not be reducing the price of my paus, so dont boycot me okay :D

fyi, the size of my pau and fillings remains the same.

miketee
16-10-2008, 12:51 AM
Excellent point, Jey. It is not as easy as boycotting a restaurant because the entire supply chain is involved... and the restaurant / stall owners are the last link in the chain!

On the same note - I think it is also in the interest of the food operators to maintain their food quality, because that's the only sure way to attract customers!

Couch Hero
16-10-2008, 01:14 AM
Giving the food sellers less business does force them to reduce prices.

In PJ State and Old Town, where I work and have my meals, prices at the stalls that I frequeent shoot up days after the petrol price hike. But after a few weeks, ,most of them return to their old prices. Why? They told me business was down substantially after they increased prices :D

So, boycotting does work! It'll be foolish for us consumers to meekly accept any price increase just because the stall owners are supposely "part of a supply chain" :rolleyes:

RGRaj
16-10-2008, 07:14 AM
In PJ State and Old Town, where I work and have my meals, prices at the stalls that I frequeent shoot up days after the petrol price hike. But after a few weeks, ,most of them return to their old prices. Why? They told me business was down substantially after they increased prices :D

Oh, how I wish it could be like this everywhere! It's beginning to feel I'm not living in the Malaysia of old - food prices are simply exorbitant!

:(

firefox
16-10-2008, 07:41 AM
So, boycotting does work! It'll be foolish for us consumers to meekly accept any price increase just because the stall owners are supposely "part of a supply chain" :rolleyes:

Totally right, the consumers have the power in their hands, we cant be too sentimental when we too have to survive in this harsh world.
Eating at the hawkers is an option, if you feel sorry for them, then go ahead and make their day but dont come here and whine about the high cost.

jayded
16-10-2008, 09:07 AM
i was walking in sunway pyramid last Saturday. I looked at all these eateries and they are full. I ask myself actually what recession are we talking about?

everybody still loves going and eating in these places. Most of the restaurants are packed.

Nowdays i try my very best to eat at home. whether its wholemeal bread or just baked beans.

1 month back, ate at this mix rice shop in sunway...at mentari...opposite mcdonalds. I took 1 vege and 1 meat and i was charges rm6.50. I asked her why the hell the price is like this? She said we count based on how much you take.
My meat portion looked a bit more.

That is where i said enough is enough!

I must try to eat at home as much as i can.

Phres
16-10-2008, 09:38 AM
Some restaurants are taking the initiative to do away with the 10% + 5% tax...one good example is the Hailam Kopitiam at Summit.

Our PM is also calling on traders to bring down prices....but ppl say whatever has gone up won't come down.. :(

tsd
16-10-2008, 10:47 AM
whr is ur pau shop ? i wan 2 try !!!

thank you all for your interest, I dont sell my pau at any shops at the moment, save cost so I can sell cheaper to consumer. I deliver direct to my customers in Subang Jaya or nearby area. So far, a few forumers has tried my pau :D thanks.

You can also pick up the pau from my place at SS18, very near to the Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Subang Utama. However, in order to buy from me, you need to give me notice 2 days in advance, so that I can make fresh pau fillings. My sales are not regular enough for me to make fresh fillings everyday. Hopefully in the future, I can take orders daily. If you want to know more about the pau that I am selling... please visit, www.mypromo2u.com/pumpkinpau/main.html. Although website says RM1, actually I am selling it for 90sen each only. My pau is smaller than the regular pau outside but it is very compact and alot of fillings.

this pau is different from the normal pau u see in the market. These pau are homemade.

yapsir
16-10-2008, 10:58 AM
some how we still need to eat,so take more home cooked food,less hawker food.
before the incresed of food price,I usually go to coffe shop atleast 4-5 times a week,but now once or twice a week only.
one for good health and also saving some money.

superz
16-10-2008, 11:38 AM
i have boycott the stall who increase her economy noodles to rm1.80 since the first petrol increase.. :mad:

Chia Hak Soon
16-10-2008, 11:38 AM
Ever since the bizare price I paid for a small bowl of laksa (Rm4.50 ) I have commited myself for the following actions;-

Breakfast

a)Two pieces of bread and a fried egg with tomatoes and cucumber stuffings.or
b) boiled oats with egg added and cerely and salt and pepper.
c) plain porridge with "seremban" egg and prickles. or salted egg.

Lunch
1 mashed potatoes, 1 hard boil egg, salad and home made sauce
sauce- tomato ketchup with a dash of lime or lemon juice.or

Tuna sandwitch and a hard boiled egg. and fruits or

egg sandwitch with salad.and fruits.

Dinner

Rice with kambong , vegetables and chicken fried with ginger and soya sauce
or

Vegetable salad, 1 potato and steam chicken breast.
or

tofu cooked with a bit of chicken meat and dill and rice.


The above are not only nutritious, clean, and very affordable and most of all
trim my tummy and keep me energetic.

No more oily, roti canai, wanton mee, laksa, char kueh teow, bak kut teh, nonsense mee soup, chinese tea and best of all use my money to its limit and keep healthy. Try the above and you will see how we can do it ourselves.

p.s. i do not take mineral water just boiled water back to basic.

AllUrban
16-10-2008, 11:47 AM
i was walking in sunway pyramid last Saturday. I looked at all these eateries and they are full. I ask myself actually what recession are we talking about?

everybody still loves going and eating in these places. Most of the restaurants are packed.there is no "recession" in Malaysia but there is an economic crisis happening.

We have just transitioned from the end of a "boom" period into a "bust" period. I say transition because it doesnt all happen at once...it takes a few years to spread from one place to another.

Follow the pattern for Asia that predicts the beginning of a "bust" period - financial crisis in Japan followed by recessions/economic problems in Singapore & South Korea about 1.5-2 years later. This is followed by problems in Malaysia, Indonesia & Thailand approximately 1 year after that.

We will start to see the effects of the recession in late 2009 as companies reduce investment and jobs are lost. By the middle of 2010 when we are really feeling the effects, it will all be over.

Of course, the end of a "boom" period is characterized by a sharp increase in prices and the beginning of a "bust" period is characterized by a sharp drop in prices. Commodities like oil and rice always lead the way.........

Cheers, m

firefox
16-10-2008, 12:50 PM
The petrol price may come down but dont dream of a cheaper "chap fun"..if you can pay for exorbitant prices why should they reduce, tell me?

AllUrban
16-10-2008, 01:09 PM
The petrol price may come down but dont dream of a cheaper "chap fun"..if you can pay for exorbitant prices why should they reduce, tell me?they can and will reduce if the pressure is placed upon them.

the problem, as pointed out, is that pressure needs to be applied at all levels of the value chain...from the original producer to the packager to the wholesaler to the distributor and to the retailer.

It isnt fair to blame the retailers as they are only part of the chain - and they are at the end of the chain.

Cheers, m

bslee
16-10-2008, 01:23 PM
Enforcement or price check at eateries (especially non-halal ones) are lax. Its likely the ministry leaves it to customers to decide. Majority customers just get bitten more than twice and curse, while the hawker just laughs as if nothing happen.. common phenomenon here and been hearing the same story time and again. Its just a vicious cycle.

firefox
16-10-2008, 01:41 PM
What are you chaps talking about just came back from SS15, awhile ago every eatrie is full to the brim, ppl are lining up for places, do they worry abt the price hikes, enough of this gibberish.

Chia Hak Soon
16-10-2008, 01:53 PM
The crisis is here to stay for a long time. In malaysia we will face it sooner or later. Lets do some soul searching and adjust before it arrived. We have been living on excesses. Think, we have been contributing to the huge amount of revenues earned by foreigners who do not pay taxes. We are also contributing to the social problems created. Can anyone name me a hawker eatery shop without any foreign workers in the klang Valley.

They brought with them diseases like tuberculosis and I doubt if you conduct a medical checks on eateries ,they will come out clean. So try to avoid hawker stalls that are not clean and charges you exorbitantly.

Jey
16-10-2008, 01:56 PM
What are you chaps talking about just came back from SS15, awhile ago every eatrie is full to the brim, ppl are lining up for places, do they worry abt the price hikes, enough of this gibberish.


:D :D :D like i said before, food is a basic necessity that no one can do without.... :eek:

Chia Hak Soon
16-10-2008, 02:32 PM
Agreed food is basic necessity but we can do away with the luxury . However for those who can afford , by no means go ahead.When supply exceeds demand , the prices will fall. :D :D :D

NAVY
16-10-2008, 02:59 PM
boycott boycott them... i will tell everyone