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jwoo
07-09-2008, 10:42 AM
Hi to All

The missus and I are thinking of a self drive holiday to either Australia or NZ.Is anyone interested to go or organise one or know of someone or group that is organising such trips for the coming CNY Januanry 09?

Hope someone can help out.

Thanks.
Jwoo

blurrman
07-09-2008, 11:40 AM
Hi to All

The missus and I are thinking of a self drive holiday to either Australia or NZ.Is anyone interested to go or organise one or know of someone or group that is organising such trips for the coming CNY Januanry 09?

Hope someone can help out.

Thanks.
Jwoo

hi jwoo, if u do not have small babies, traveling around Perth Australia is really simple and fast with public transport if you plan earlier the location and places u wanted to visit. When they says 1.32pm bus arrive at Station, they really mean it.

Australia allows new migrant from Malaysia to use our Malaysian driving license for 3 months before one got to taking an Aussie license, but I am not sure the same applies to visitors.

anyway u can also get an international driving license from JPJ in less than 20minutes for 1 year validity's license for the cost of RM150

if u insist on driving, if u have a GPS, it will really help a lot, there are free map for Australia which you can download and install into your GPS. It will guide you to many places. some rental car do have a GPS installed.

for hotel and holiday home in Australia, normally booking for 1 week will be much much cheaper that daily rate. The cheapest daily hotel rate is around AUD100++ , and average one will be around AUD150++, a good decent holiday home is around AUD450-650 per week.

few free to ask, there are a few Malaysian migrant that read this forum regularly.

cypaq
07-09-2008, 03:00 PM
Australia allows new migrant from Malaysia to use our Malaysian driving license for 3 months before one got to taking an Aussie license, but I am not sure the same applies to visitors.



Malaysian tourists can use their Malaysian driving license while on holiday in Oz. You don't need an international driving license.

jwoo
07-09-2008, 08:00 PM
Thanks for your advise.



We have not quite decided whether it will be Australia or NZ.It's nice to know that we don't need to change to an International licence to drive.

I think it's the planning of the trip that's a little worrrying as we are completely blurred about Australia or NZ.Now,if this is your first and only trip to Australia or NZ,where would you go? We will not be travelling with children,so no theme parks please! And we have about 10 days.

Thanks.
Jwoo

coogee
07-09-2008, 08:30 PM
Hi to All

The missus and I are thinking of a self drive holiday to either Australia or NZ.Is anyone interested to go or organise one or know of someone or group that is organising such trips for the coming CNY Januanry 09?

Hope someone can help out.

Thanks.
Jwoo

Hi. If you are planning to visit the east coast (Queensland/NSW/Victoria) perhaps you can consider following :

1) KL / Gold Coast /self drive / Sydney - allow at least 1 week

-Fly AirAsia to Gold Coast then drive to Syd / fly Syd back to Gold Coast or Fly MAS to Brisbane (open jaw ticket) / self drive to Sydney / Fly MAS Syd-KUL direct.

Suggested itinerary :

- 2 nites in Gold Coast to do the Movie World, rides etc
- Car hire and drive south towards Sydney via Pacific Highway (don't worry, it's just about the only road to Sydney - It's about 1000 km so take a leisure drive.

- Bryon Bay (1 nite stop). Make sure you drive to nearby Lennox Head, fantastic view of the coast and surf. Bryon Bay is a small town and it's like the little Bali of Australia but over the years it has attracted lots of well heeled aussies and foreigners buying up waterfront properties which cost millions.

- Port Macquarie :Continue down Pacific Highway to Port Macquarie. Stop for the nite. Small but nice coastal town with good seafood. 6 hrs to Sydney. If weekend, always lookout for local weekend markets for local fruits and foods.

- Continue towards Syd but make sure to take the trouble to make detours along the way, you will see signage of Oyster Farms, fruit orchards etc and it's worth the while to explore them. In Australia it is common to see brown 'Scenic Routes' signboard along highways, these are recommended drives with good views and/or places of interested. These routes normally take longer distance but generally lead you back the Pacific highway so do follow if you are not rush for time.

- Sydney, suggest at least 3-5 days depending on what you want to do. The city is quite compact and can be covered in 3 days even if just want to do only touristry stuff - walks along Circular Quay (Opera House, The Rocks), Pitt Street Mall & Queen Victoria Shopping Mall, Taronga Zoo / Ferry ride (get combo ticket), Fish Market, Chinatown, walk the 6 km Bondi to Coogee Beach (highly recommended), Darling Harbour -Power House Museum, Maritime Museum, Aquarium, Casino.

If staying longer, day trip to Blue Mountains (2 hrs drive) and stopover at Wildlife farm along the way.

Stay / Accomodation - If you are not keen to stay in hotels and want to safe some money, try to book Bed & Breakfast places or private lodgings. This is especially so if travelling in groups where you ll get to have few people in one room but do inform the owner, most will be happy to negotiate a reasonable rate. Another type of accomodation are Caravan parks. Google it and you ll see it everywhere.

- Car Return - Drop off car at the airport on departing Syd. If flying back to Gold Coast domestic flights here operate like Air Asia so book early to get cheap fares. Virgin Blue and Jetstar, also check Qantas as they do offer similar deals. Feb is low season.

coogee
07-09-2008, 09:14 PM
Just read your posting saying only 2 to travel so no movie world stuff. Ok the other sector :

KL/Melbourne/ self drive to Sydney

- Again can take Air Asia to Melbourne then drive Coastal Road to Sydney and return via domestic flight to Melbourne or

- Open Jaw ticket KUL/Melbourne/self drive to Syd/Syd-KUL direct.

Suggested itinerary:

Melbourne - 3-5 nites depending on what you want to do. Do drive to the Great Ocean Route which will take you greater part of a day to do so (having say that I missed this when we last drove to Melbourne due to weather constraint and until today, wished we could have done it). Drive south east to Mornington Peninsular where the wineries are located. If you have time go right down south there there is a vehicular ferry that takes you across to the 'west' and you can continue to drive west towards Great Ocean Road or head up north back to Melbourne.

In Melbourne, do the cafe thing - there are heaps of nice trendy ones in small lanes of the city, Visit Chapel Street in South Yarra (http://www.melbourne.com.au/chapel.htm), trendy boutiques and food joints. Of course one cannot miss the Crown Casino and Federation Square, Victoria market.

- To Sydney : They are 2 routes to Sydney depending what you like to see and do.

The Hume Highway (http://www.wilmap.com.au/stripmaps/hume.html) is the inland route that takes you to many farmlands and small towns but you ll need to make detour to get to them as most are off the highway. Overnite stop can be at Albany/Wodonga (same area but different town located across different state). This route also let you pass near Canberra which can be a nite stop to visit the national capital (3 hrs to Syd). You can also cut thru Canberra and go pass Kangaroo Valley (rolling hills and farmlands) to get to the coast.

The other route is via Priness Highway (http://www.wilmap.com.au/stripmaps/melbeden.html) which is the coastal drive. This stretch is ideal if you like scenery and visit small coastal towns but the stretch from Melbourne to Victoria/NSW border will be slightly boring except for the Lakes Entrance (must stop here to take in the view). You ll probably need to spend a nite at the border town of Eden or Merimbula (sparkling ocean and Feb still warm for swims) and if another nite is required, then stop also at Batemans Bay (stop at Shoalhaven for the best fresh oysters ever) .

I have done both the Syd/Gold Coast/Syd and the Syd/Melbourne/Syd drives. Both about the same distances and is worth the drive though one way is good enough. Stopping at least a nite or better still 2 nites will be ideal though I drove the Melbourne-Syd continous except for pit stops (I do not recommend it, besides you ll probably do it one way so no reason to hurry).

For car rental, there are companies that allow you to pick up the car in Melbourne or Brisbane and drop off in Sydney and vice versa. You ll pay some extras of course. For tourist, no problem using Malaysian driving licence but do confirm it when booking. One word of caution, do not speed...the police here operate unmarked (means plain car) cars to nab speed offenders. Hope this helps.

USJ27Resident
07-09-2008, 10:13 PM
One word of caution, do not speed...the police here operate unmarked (means plain car) cars to nab speed offenders. Hope this helps.

They also set up speed cameras at various point [BUT THEY ALSO PUT UP SIGNS WARNING YOU ABOUT THE CAMERAS] , not like our "bushmen" or "bridgemen" that hide and ambush you from hidden view... :rolleyes:

cypaq
07-09-2008, 10:17 PM
Between Oz and NZ, IMHO NZ wins handsdown in terms of scenary. :) 10 days is just enough for you to travel both the North and South Islands. Check with the local tour agents for brouchures and information. Many of them do help with ground arrangements too. If you do decide to go to NZ, I can suggest the places to visit and things to do.

cskok8
07-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Have you considered a campervan??

Great for the outdoors and countryside. Not too good for cities.

tehmc
07-09-2008, 10:43 PM
Note that temperatures in most part of Ozzie with the exception of Tasmania, can go up very high (40dC and above) in January which is the middle of summer. Though it is dry heat, it would not be very comfortable for driving.

By comparison, summer in NZ is much milder and cooler, temperature seldom go beyond 25dC. In terms of scenery, NZ is much greener and has a lot more to offer especially in the South Island. Places like Queenstown, Wanaka, Mt Cook, Milford Sounds are awesome. Unlike in Ozzie, you don't have to travel great distance to enjoy a change of scenery. The downside is that airfares to NZ are rather pricey.

Here's a useful link on NZ:
http://www.newzealand.com/travel/International/

coogee
07-09-2008, 10:57 PM
They also set up speed cameras at various point [BUT THEY ALSO PUT UP SIGNS WARNING YOU ABOUT THE CAMERAS] , not like our "bushmen" or "bridgemen" that hide and ambush you from hidden view... :rolleyes:

One is enforcement while the other is entrapment....

kwchang
07-09-2008, 11:40 PM
Some people have no idea how big Australia can be.

If it is a driving holiday, I believe NZ would be better as the country is much smaller.

PeterHng
07-09-2008, 11:52 PM
Some people have no idea how big Australia can be.

If it is a driving holiday, I believe NZ would be better as the country is much smaller.

One round of Australia will take you 16,000 km:D

Rocky19
08-09-2008, 12:26 AM
i suggest you do NZ. easy drive, you can drive from south to north island or the other way around.lots to see. do not speed thou but there are enough warnings, enforcement as someone said. Check out the NZ websites for tips and info, choose what you want to see. Do check out the sperm whales and the dolphins in Kaikura(?)

blues
08-09-2008, 08:31 AM
They also set up speed cameras at various point [BUT THEY ALSO PUT UP SIGNS WARNING YOU ABOUT THE CAMERAS] , not like our "bushmen" or "bridgemen" that hide and ambush you from hidden view... :rolleyes:

do you know local driver will speed again after the warning sign??

jwoo
08-09-2008, 03:12 PM
Thanks to all who have taken valauble time to post advise especially Coojee.

I would agreed that driving in NZ could be more pleasant in terms of size of country and scenery. And the temperature at that time is certainly something to consider.

So it looks like there are more votes for NZ.

BTW,what's the cheapest airfare there?

Thanks.
Jwoo

Naka
08-09-2008, 03:53 PM
do you know local driver will speed again after the warning sign??


FYI, the 2nd camera is normally another 300m away

chsum
08-09-2008, 07:13 PM
err..jwoo, don't forget in general prices r more expensive in NZ than in Aus, only getting there will double ur air fare, still no no frill flight going there :rolleyes:

ahbitchew
08-09-2008, 07:58 PM
BTW,what's the cheapest airfare there?

Thanks.
Jwoo

If you don't mind the hassle, take Air Asia to Melbourne, then fly pacific blue or air new zealand to Auckland or Chrischurch, save you about RM500 per person.

Did my South Island driving tour last christmas, road condition is pretty good, not much of traffic and everybody observed the speed limit !

Journey from Christchurch to Queenstown is a whopping 7 hours journey, so try to stay a night in Mt Cook, there is some excellent trek there if you are into hiking.