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RichLock
27-08-2008, 03:15 AM
Does anyone here who can direct me to a government web-site where I can check which food outlets (not in a hotel) that can charge the 5% Government Tax which was waived effective last month?

AllUrban
27-08-2008, 11:16 AM
Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs (http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/)

Inland Revenue Board (http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_index.asp)

Cheers, m

RichLock
27-08-2008, 12:45 PM
Thanks, AllUrban. Do I have to write in to check on an outlet?

lly
27-08-2008, 02:04 PM
What is the new criteria that an outlet can charge the 5% govt tax? As far as I know, all restaurants that were previously charging are still doing it.

bslee
27-08-2008, 02:18 PM
What is the new criteria that an outlet can charge the 5% govt tax? As far as I know, all restaurants that were previously charging are still doing it.

Report to Jabatan Kastam if you feel you've been unfairly charged. Let them investigate. No report, no investigation. Trust them to take action if guilty.
They quoted as currently 435 establishments are now licenced to collect ST.
Source here:

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/27/nation/20080827135220&sec=nation

rachel sj
27-08-2008, 02:30 PM
also check customs website www.customs.gov.my

as Service Tax falls under thier jurisdiction...

masmot
27-08-2008, 03:14 PM
What is the new criteria that an outlet can charge the 5% govt tax? As far as I know, all restaurants that were previously charging are still doing it.

they must have more than RM3mil in annual sales in order to enable them to charge the service tax.

More info (http://www.customs.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=112&Itemid=96)

bslee
27-08-2008, 03:28 PM
they must have more than RM3mil in annual sales in order to enable them to charge the service tax.


Trouble with Malaysia, unscrupulous, dishonest and unethical proprieters will profit from unsuspecting customers. Should we really think they even remit the collected dues promptly?..I think not!. I don't mind if it really goes to the gahmen but NOT their own pocket as profit. They can be so capable to chap lup and forget the they cheated everyone else.

lly
27-08-2008, 03:35 PM
Thanks. Have downloaded the lists of restaurants! One question: do all branches of the same restaurant share one license?

silver_bird
27-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Report restaurants still charging service tax

Customs DG : "Some restaurants are still charging service tax to its customers although the number of outlets permitted to do so has dropped sharply from 4,800 to only 435 premises since the Government raised the sales threshold to RM3mil".

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/8/27/nation/20080827135220&sec=nation

Are restaurants in Subang Jaya, USJ, Sunway & Puchong still charging service tax ?

bslee
27-08-2008, 03:47 PM
Ok..so now we're aware!.. MAKE IT an all out effort and a point to REPORT any shop that defy the law. I will FOR SURE!.
The dishonest HAVE to learn the hard way...HELP to make Malaysia a more corrupt free country!. Only the rakyat can make things happen!..

GreyShadow
27-08-2008, 04:48 PM
a lot of people are confused between service charge and service tax

service charge which can be range from 3% - 10% are collected by the restaurant to be divided to their staff at the end of the months, it's kinda like compulsory tips from the guest.

while service TAX are 5% only, collected by the restaurant to pay to the government each year. Chain outlets like Old Town Kopitiam, Starbucks, TGIF do charge the 5% service tax, which are based on their sales total revenue of all outlets together.

but if you walk in a new never heard of outlet and yet they are charging you 5% service tax, then there's something fishy already.
By right any newly established outlets don't need to pay the 5% service tax for the first year, no matter how much is the sales revenue.

But for example the new Bubba Gump at the Curve, they are charging the 5% service tax while they are only less than a year old? And this is also Naza's first venture into the F&B
proof = http://images.tehchenyee.multiply.com/image/4/photos/121/500x500/15/DSCN0044.jpg?et=KdNgv06ohGadpie336Fp8Q&nmid=110116465
I think this is a case that we can complain to the authority

masmot
27-08-2008, 05:15 PM
agree with you bslee. as the govt always have problem in implementation of enforcement action, we the people have to be aware of our own rights.

ahtal68
27-08-2008, 05:24 PM
Thanks. Have downloaded the lists of restaurants!
lly, could you paste the direct link to website? Thank you

USJ27Resident
27-08-2008, 11:58 PM
.... in the mean time, what do you do when you get the bill and find a 5% Govt tax printed on the bill... :rolleyes:

... pay, and complain to customs? and never see you 5% again...

... protest... and get embarrased by the outlet staff, in front of all the other patrons... and pay and cabut.... :(

... or NOT pay!

5% or otherwise... this tantamounts to cheating... so what do we do while we are still standing in the shop...

anyway...for those that wanna know which shop (http://www.customs.gov.my/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=269&Itemid=191) is listed, that are allowed to charge the 5% service tax.

bslee
28-08-2008, 12:29 AM
... is listed, that are allowed to charge the 5% service tax.

Hmmmm!..."there's many ways to skin the cat...errrr the guillible Malaysian customer actually".
So it sounds like one particular mamak restaurant at Taipan whom everyone knows as pricy, the only type that charged 5% extra, then later concealed it into the total (albeit still higher than the competition) is now not listed as licenced to levy the tax. Ahhhhh...I don't see any eventuality they'll reduce the food prices..very obvious!.. typical Malaysian inflation trend! what goes up almost never comes down. Never mind lah..they're going to stay in my BANNED list FOREVER!.

RichLock
28-08-2008, 01:20 AM
Thank you people for your responds and especially to USJ27Resident for the list of licensed shops. That's the list I have been looking for.

RGRaj
29-08-2008, 07:15 AM
Service charge which can be range from 3% - 10% are collected by the restaurant to be divided to their staff at the end of the months, it's kinda like compulsory tips from the guest.

Service tax or service charge, I think it's still wrong. Why must I pay extra when I've already paid the full amount for the food? Aren't the restaurants paying their staffs? Personally I find tipping unethical.

pepsi
29-08-2008, 10:00 AM
Do the private and government hospital cafeteria still charge service tax too?

Vixey
29-08-2008, 10:10 AM
.... in the mean time, what do you do when you get the bill and find a 5% Govt tax printed on the bill... :rolleyes:

... pay, and complain to customs? and never see you 5% again...

... protest... and get embarrased by the outlet staff, in front of all the other patrons... and pay and cabut.... :(

... or NOT pay!

5% or otherwise... this tantamounts to cheating... so what do we do while we are still standing in the shop...

anyway...for those that wanna know which shop (http://www.customs.gov.my/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=269&Itemid=191) is listed, that are allowed to charge the 5% service tax.

I can't open the file. Boleh email it to me? Thanks.

kwchang
29-08-2008, 10:54 AM
I can't open the file. Boleh email it to me? Thanks.
It is a PDF document - you need the Acrobat reader before you can open it. Google acrobat and download the application - you also need it for your income tax submissions ;)

RichLock
29-08-2008, 01:20 PM
If a parent company is required to collect the 5% Government tax, does it mean that if this company were to open another shop in another name will collect the Government tax too? Take for example, Starbuck is in the list of companies required to collect the tax. It opens other outlets under the Starbuck banner. It charges the 5% tax. Right, if Starbuck opens an outlet selling char koey teow and names it "Ah Wong Char Koey Teow", can this Ah Wong charges the 5% tax?