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ahbitchew
14-08-2008, 10:37 PM
Just heard from a friend that there are about 70 new students being dumped to Chee Wen. Lick Hung only accept 10 classes of standard 1 students next year.
My question is given that they have 14 classes of standard 6 students who are leaving the school this year, they have no problem accepting 14 classes of standard 1 students to replace those school leavers, so why dump them to Chee Wen ?

shthang
14-08-2008, 11:24 PM
where did your friend get this information?

birdy
15-08-2008, 05:29 AM
There is another thread in this forum telling that Lik Hung will reduce to 10 classes beginnning next year and in order to do that, they will conduct assessment test to filter students. :(

cml
15-08-2008, 08:55 AM
Chee Wen will have lots of places as the new chung wah school in kota kemuning will be open next year and a lot of kk residents are transferring their kids back to kk to avoid the infernal jams in usj

tupai
15-08-2008, 11:26 AM
using the word, 'dumping' is not proper...CW is not a dumping ground. Neither is LH a guaranteed achiever school.

The student's performance lies 50% teacher and 50% parental guidance. Play your role, Act up to your responsibility* and all things will be hunky dory and fine! :D

Children is the reflection of the parents.

If they are average/smart/successful mean I as parent, am average/smart /successful. If they are the world MOST idiotic fools, THEN I am the worst MOSTEST idiotic fool of a parent, of course my spouse also takes 50% responsibility lah! :D


Yang Biadap latotupai


p/s * that includes NOT selfishly double parking and block the bloody traffic when sending and picking up your precious idiot during school hours! :mad:

jessie koh
15-08-2008, 01:52 PM
yes, parents must play their part...............in fact i just make a survey of Chee Wen school and i found that most of Chee Wen students are in good manners and polite. I think Chee Wen has very good learning environment.

PianoMan
15-08-2008, 01:59 PM
Honestly, I would not send my kids to any of those schools. Although I'm Chinese, I want my kids to go to a national school, my observation of chinese school kids are that they are very result oriented and kiasu by nature.

It's ok if my son gets last in class, so long as he has a heart of gold. And more to that, chinese school leavers have terrible English. I still remember a time in high school when my geography teacher asked a former chinese school student (Lick Hung) what does he like in geography.

He replied, "Because, I very enjoy".

AllUrban
15-08-2008, 02:06 PM
The student's performance lies 50% teacher and 50% parental guidance. Play your role, Act up to your responsibility* and all things will be hunky dory and fine! :D

Children is the reflection of the parents.
Don't forget, there has to be 50% effort from the child :D

Cheers, m

HTCHONG
15-08-2008, 02:11 PM
.... chinese school leavers have terrible English.

I have different perception and totally disagreed... ;)


....I still remember a time in high school when my geography teacher asked a former chinese school student (Lick Hung) what does he like in geography.

He replied, "Because, I very enjoy".
Yes..there are who can't speak well in English but in the example given above does not representing the rest of Chinese school leavers.. :rolleyes:

PianoMan
15-08-2008, 02:16 PM
I have different perception and totally disagreed... ;)
:rolleyes:

You must be from a chinese school eh? :rolleyes: The word 'disagreed' used in your above sentence should be in present tense, not past tense meaning it should be 'disagree' without the 'd'.

Common mistake made by Chinese school students.

HTCHONG
15-08-2008, 02:19 PM
You must be from a chinese school eh? :rolleyes: The word 'disagreed' used in your above sentence should be in present tense, not past tense meaning it should be 'disagree' without the 'd'.

Common mistake made by Chinese school students.

Yes..I am from Chinese school ...so ?

PianoMan
15-08-2008, 02:23 PM
So I was trying to correct your mistake lah. Why so hostile? Cool it, prove to me that not all Chinese school leavers are kiasu.

CCY
15-08-2008, 02:35 PM
So I was trying to correct your mistake lah. Why so hostile? Cool it, prove to me that not all Chinese school leavers are kiasu.
Pianoman.....I don't know why you're picking on the english or grammatical error of sjkc students. Is that any better if it is from the sk's....?

This kiasu statement of your's is rather tasteless n sweeping to begin with......

Raikonen
15-08-2008, 02:36 PM
You must be from a chinese school eh? :rolleyes: The word 'disagreed' used in your above sentence should be in present tense, not past tense meaning it should be 'disagree' without the 'd'.

Common mistake made by Chinese school students.

:rolleyes: Not nice

tupai
15-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Don't forget, there has to be 50% effort from the child :D

Cheers, m

Bro, Y lah? u make it so susah? 100% also velly difficult to get...now u wanna 150% :eek: :eek:


Yang Belum boleh latotupai :D

Oh, bi duh weyyyy, wat skool i from ah? :p i rember my lady-teachers all pretty ones, all velly nice lah. Sumore dey dey like mini-skirts lah... :p

HTCHONG
15-08-2008, 02:39 PM
So I was trying to correct your mistake lah. Why so hostile? Cool it, prove to me that not all Chinese school leavers are kiasu.

Irrelevant and provocative..period. :mad:

kwchang
15-08-2008, 02:44 PM
...I want my kids to go to a national school, my observation of chinese school kids are that they are very result oriented and kiasu by nature....chinese school leavers have terrible English....
Result oriented is perhaps a good trait to have in a competitive world ;)

As for poor english .. it is partly due to the fact that they probably never used English at all outside the school environment. Surprisingly, I found that a lot of my kids' LickHung classmates converse well in English. More surprisingly, when my kids were in Std1, the teacher defaulted to English when the class did not understand her if she spoke only Mandarin. :) This is where the observation that the parents have an important role. Do not place the responsibility on the school. If you did that, your kids will have equally bad English even if they went to Kebangsaan school

tsd
15-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Result oriented is perhaps a good trait to have in a competitive world ;)

As for poor english .. it is partly due to the fact that they probably never used English at all outside the school environment. Surprisingly, I found that a lot of my kids' LickHung classmates converse well in English. More surprisingly, when my kids were in Std1, the teacher defaulted to English when the class did not understand her if she spoke only Mandarin. :) This is where the observation that the parents have an important role. Do not place the responsibility on the school. If you did that, your kids will have equally bad English even if they went to Kebangsaan school

yep, I have bad english even though I go to kebangsaan school :( no one to blame but myself.

tupai
15-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Result oriented is perhaps a good trait to have in a competitive world ;)

As for poor english .. it is partly due to the fact that they probably never used English at all outside the school environment. Surprisingly, I found that a lot of my kids' LickHung classmates converse well in English. More surprisingly, when my kids were in Std1, the teacher defaulted to English when the class did not understand her if she spoke only Mandarin. :) This is where the observation that the parents have an important role. Do not place the responsibility on the school. If you did that, your kids will have equally bad English even if they went to Kebangsaan school

This year PTA saw Mr Tan, the new HM opening his speech in English. he had this to say (not exact words lah) " Good morning, blah blah blah..this is the first time in my career, that i have to use english for my speech..LC students and also their parents are mostly englsih literates..." to that effect lah.

It was a good feel.

While ther are many Mandarin literates in there, equally many Mandarin-blur-sotongs also asked questions, commented etc in english...and this is SJK CINA! :D :D yabadabadoooo...

Yang Boleh 4 lingo but sket sket HuaYi latotupai :o

tupai
15-08-2008, 02:56 PM
yep, I have bad english even though I go to kebangsaan school :( no one to blame but myself.
aiyah! dont cha worry lah...I have bad england even thou i went to boarding skool leh...u should see, listen to the kwailohs...not all can speekin' duh queen's england lah...no matter how queer duh queen's inglis can zound like lah...

i serious wan u know?

Yang Boleh cakap inglan latotupai :D

tsd
15-08-2008, 03:04 PM
aiyah! dont cha worry lah...I have bad england even thou i went to boarding skool leh...u should see, listen to the kwailohs...not all can speekin' duh queen's england lah...no matter how queer duh queen's inglis can zound like lah...

i serious wan u know?

Yang Boleh cakap inglan latotupai :D

I only realise how important it is to speak proper English after a series of blunders during my office days. A lot of misunderstanding can happen due to wrong usage of the Language. When I say something, people understand it to something else ( on purpose or not, dunno lah :D )

tupai
15-08-2008, 03:15 PM
I only realise how important it is to speak proper English after a series of blunders during my office days. A lot of misunderstanding can happen due to wrong usage of the Language. When I say something, people understand it to something else ( on purpose or not, dunno lah :D )

soli ah...i beg to differ. Its more likely the wrong usage of words that usually leads us up the creek without a paddle! :eek:


Yang Boleh sikit cakap inglis latotupai :D

p/s aiya, yr opis people play u politics leh...Written english as in bizz correspondence, email etcetc are more important lah. duh rest i speeking u undercanstand ok aledy wah. no? Tis is called the latoshhitt inglis..lain skit from duh queen's ingland lah. :D

Fabe18
15-08-2008, 08:15 PM
Honestly, I would not send my kids to any of those schools. Although I'm Chinese, I want my kids to go to a national school, my observation of chinese school kids are that they are very result oriented and kiasu by nature.

It's ok if my son gets last in class, so long as he has a heart of gold. And more to that, chinese school leavers have terrible English. I still remember a time in high school when my geography teacher asked a former chinese school student (Lick Hung) what does he like in geography.

He replied, "Because, I very enjoy".

I'm a product of chinese school.. my parents can't read chinese but felt the need that their offsprings should be able to read and write in chinese. Since they can't read or write, they couldn't coach me on anything chinese in my earlier years in school. But they do send me for tuition and make sure I do finish my homework and all.

Was in Chiao Nan (next to tawakal) from Std 1 -4... I wasn't anywhere brilliant before Std 4, then my results improved when 1 got to std 4.. must be the introduction of science subject..

Then went on to Puay Chai SS2 for Std 5 & 6 when my family moved.. The standards in this school was a lot higher than in Chiao Nan.. The English standard was quite high too.. It was sort of a culture shock for me.. But managed alright.. My mum played an important eventhough she couldn't help in my homework.

I know a lot of chinese school grads who don't look or sound like a chinese grad. So it's not about the school.

Chinese school does have a lot of homework.. I think more than what I used to have.. I think aledi follow s'pore style..

Anyway, it's your child's education future. Do what you think will benefit them in their future.

praetor
15-08-2008, 08:40 PM
Greetings.

From an innocuous thread on a school allegedly dumping students to another school escalated to the merits of sending one's children to Chinese school. It's never about us anymore gents, but rather the future of our children. Whatever we say about the school, it is very important to remember that parents as well as teachers play a vital role to mould our future generation into productive as well as positive citizens. Hopefully, the child will understand why they are being burdened with enormous homework though.

Pax vorbiscum.

scorgio
15-08-2008, 11:26 PM
Honestly, I would not send my kids to any of those schools. Although I'm Chinese, I want my kids to go to a national school, my observation of chinese school kids are that they are very result oriented and kiasu by nature.

For the bolded part, obviously it's the parent's influence that caused it.

Btw, I felt your mentality very much like my uncle. He's not Chinese educated. So I believe you aren't as well.

orchipalar
16-08-2008, 12:13 AM
Honestly, I would not send my kids to any of those schools. Although I'm Chinese, I want my kids to go to a national school, my observation of chinese school kids are that they are very result oriented and kiasu by nature.

It's ok if my son gets last in class, so long as he has a heart of gold.

And more to that, chinese school leavers have terrible English.

I still remember a time in high school when my geography teacher asked a former chinese school student (Lick Hung) what does he like in geography.

He replied, "Because, I very enjoy".Err buddy...Orchi begs your pardon...please keep your negative sweeping statements n judgement to yourself...before others do likewise to you...

ahbitchew
16-08-2008, 12:15 AM
From an innocuous thread on a school allegedly dumping students to another school escalated to the merits of sending one's children to Chinese school. .


Perhaps I should explain why i started this thread. My intention is to highlight the illogical act on the part of the school to turn away so many students while they have the capacity to accept these students. Mind you with 14 standard 6 classes leaving the school next year, they could very well admit the equal number of standard 1 classes, so why restrict the intake to only 10 classes and ignore the wishes of the parent who wish to enrol their children in Lick Hung ?

As it is Chee Wen does not have sufficient teachers and have to resort to hiring temporaly teachers to fill in the void, with the extra students being dump to them, how are they going to cope ? and heard that Chee Wen PIBG may have to buy extra tables and chairs to accomodate the extra students....

It is this illogical act that lend credence to rumours that those who stay in Glenmarie bungalows are accepted in Lick Hung while those who stay in apartment in Glenmarie are dumped to Chee Wen... I don't believe this rumours but could you blame me for may be suspecting there could be truth in this rumours ?

scorgio
16-08-2008, 08:40 AM
As it is Chee Wen does not have sufficient teachers and have to resort to hiring temporaly teachers to fill in the void, with the extra students being dump to them, how are they going to cope ? and heard that Chee Wen PIBG may have to buy extra tables and chairs to accomodate the extra students....

It is this illogical act that lend credence to rumours that those who stay in Glenmarie bungalows are accepted in Lick Hung while those who stay in apartment in Glenmarie are dumped to Chee Wen... I don't believe this rumours but could you blame me for may be suspecting there could be truth in this rumours ?
1) Every SJK(C) need to hire temporary teacher to fill vacancy. Thanks to the Ministry of Education. The intake of Chinese student into Maktab Perguruan faces different problems year after year after year. When they graduated, supposingly SJK(C) bound, some were allocated to SK. So the issue of vacancy issue in SJK(C) couldn't be solved.

2) At SJ, a middle to upper class area, the PIBG 'buys' the tables and chairs. At sub-urban areas, the SJK(C)'s PIBG or the Board of Directors, need to arrange transport to collect the USED tables and chairs (to be dump as rubbish) from nearby SK. OR the school would request each parent of newly enrolled student to donate a set of table & chair.

3) It's a known secret that, with some form of donation, the child would get a guaranteed spot. For eg. the SJK(C) along Jln Ampang, the donation amount is RM10k.

Weezy
16-08-2008, 09:59 AM
sounds like the high class go to chinese school and... ahemmm... **LOL** :D

**runs away before the banana man gets here** :eek:

pucman
16-08-2008, 10:39 AM
And more to that, chinese school leavers have terrible English. I still remember a time in high school when my geography teacher asked a former chinese school student (Lick Hung) what does he like in geography.

He replied, "Because, I very enjoy".

Just because one chinese educated student has poor English skills, you blame all of them ? I personally have met quite a number of chinese educated students who speaks better english than those from the national schools.

In case you havent' noticed, most of the national school people can only speak malay when I tried to speak to them in English. They can't even utter a simple English sentence after going through 11 years of 'English' education.

So where's your proof that national school students have better English skills ?

Even though I was educated in the English stream and not the Malay stream, my writings still occasionally have grammatical errors. I can't bother about all the grammar rules when I write in forums as it is just too plain troublesome.

Aren't you the kiasu one here nitpicking about grammar ? I can probably pick up a few grammar mistakes from you if you write more but I thought you said only chinese educated are kiasu ? Unless you are super rich and your children don't have to be competitive because they will inherit your fortune, then you don't have to be kiasu.

In the 1950s, 60s, 70s, I agree with this statement that 'English ed blah blah chinese ed' but definitely NOT now when it is actually 'Malay ed'.

pucman
16-08-2008, 10:52 AM
Bro, Y lah? u make it so susah? 100% also velly difficult to get...now u wanna 150% :eek: :eek:




Pianoman will say your English is terrible and you come from a Chinese medium school. :D

Velly solly loh.

fRaNkY
16-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Just to add... make sure your kids dont watch too much PCK limited :D

Well, when classes are reduce, teachers will also be reduce...

orchipalar
16-08-2008, 11:41 PM
Err buddies...the basic criterias for enrollment to any SJK or SK schools...would include those students living in close proximity of the schools...

Most times...this holds true...but in the case of Lick Hung or even Chee Wen ...folks enroll their childrens to these 2 schools are NOT living anywhere near to the school...

They come from outside of SJ/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway...but using addresses in the close vicinity of these 2 schools which are heavily packed with rising students enrollment each year...to enroll their childrens...that complicates the matter by much each year.

In here Orchi isn't going compare between these 2 schools to say...which of these 2 schools is better or otherwise...because Orchi feels it would be silly to do so.

But Orchi believes that if there was an SK Secondary Chinese school to begin with in SJ/USJ/PutraHeight/Sunway areas...Orchi could place a bet that the school would be heavily packed as well...because there isn't any such school available long since these Chinese majority population townships are built for more than 30 years...

It would be the matter of preference...that many more folks would wish to enroll their childrens into Chinese primary n secondary...

While each year hundreds of students who would select to continue study in Secondary Chinese school...have had to travel far to Klang or Kuala Lumpur where mostly the private funded Secondary Schools are located.

Many would have little choice but to be enrolled in 3 or 4 Secondary SK schools there are in these local townships...here.

Oh btw...those with some cow sense would NOT think SJK(c) primary or secondary Chinese school produces students with lower standards of spoken n written English...

n to those who might think that higher standards of spoken n written English...could be more superior in some ways...are themselves with little cow sense.

birdy
17-08-2008, 08:59 AM
Oh btw...those with some cow sense would NOT think SJK(c) primary or secondary Chinese school produces students with lower standards of spoken n written English...

n to those who might think that higher standards of spoken n written English...could be more superior in some ways...are themselves with little cow sense.
Hi Orchi...I do agree that SRJK(c) does not produce lower standards of spoken n written English students... I believe many of the forum members here are from SRJK(c) or SMJK(c) but at this period of time, English is still important in day to day work and/or business dealings. I know we can use alternate means to communicate but majority of the legal agreements and documents would be drafted in English... So, having a higher standards of spoken n written English would definitely give the person an advantage.

orchipalar
17-08-2008, 11:12 AM
but majority of the legal agreements and documents would be drafted in English... So, having a higher standards of spoken n written English would definitely give the person an advantage.Err buddies...let the legal eagles deal with legal agreements...

The understanding of documents drafted in English...does NOT require higher standards of spoken or written English...

Roughly speaking...ONLY 331 millions of world's populations use English as their 1st language...another 700 millions of world's populations use English as their additional language.

There are a total of 6.9 billions of world's populations...

In emerging economies like India n China...the majority of the populations in those countries...do NOT speak or write English...

Out of a total of 1.3 billion population...India has ONLY 250,000 population who use English as their 1st language...with 90 millions more use English as their additional language.

Out of a total of 1.4 billions population in China...ONLY 200,000 of its population in HONG KONG...use English as their 1st language...n 2.3 million use English as their additional language.(in HONG KONG only)

The entire China...DO NOT even use English as their additional language...

Does anyone want Orchi to give more statistics on Japan...Korea...South East Asia...Latin America...Africa...Middle East...n Europe...???

So again...Orchi stresses...having better standards of spoken n written English...DOES NOT make one to be more superior than...the other.

Sorry for the slight digression though...

pepsi
17-08-2008, 05:52 PM
While I do agree that writing and speaaaking the Queen's english doesn't necessary make the person more superior, more courteous , more considerate or more generous, however it is a very "handy skill" which would be an advantage to the person.
If it was not, than the Education Ministry shouldn't consider teaching maths and science in English.
It's the same with mandarin language or any other language for the matter, if we don't speak or write well, it's a disadvantage.

birdy
17-08-2008, 08:48 PM
While I do agree that writing and speaaaking the Queen's english doesn't necessary make the person more superior, more courteous , more considerate or more generous, however it is a very "handy skill" which would be an advantage to the person.
If it was not, than the Education Ministry shouldn't consider teaching maths and science in English.
It's the same with mandarin language or any other language for the matter, if we don't speak or write well, it's a disadvantage.
Exactly what I wanted to say .... it will not made someone superior but definitely will have advantage over someone who can't even spell correctly. :) Just quote an example... if someone doesn't know English, he/she would not be able to contribute or even understand what is discussed in English forums.

orchipalar
17-08-2008, 10:14 PM
Err buddies...you guys missed the point...

Having higher standard of spoken n written English...only gives advantage to certain few professions...like teaching...journalism...publication etc. under fewer circumstances.

Greater n many other professions n business administrations do NOT require higher standard of spoken n written English.

All it takes is the comprehension of what you read n write in English...that makes the real difference...

For an example:-

An English teacher is trying to read n understand what a Medical Doctor or Surgeon writes...in English.

Would it be an advantage to the English teacher that he/she has higher standard of spoken n written English...?

Today you have cheap computers telling you that you have misspelled an English word...n very soon you would probably have the same cheaper computers to correct your grammatical errors...

n for the sakes of conversation...would a relationship or marriage of an English educated couple be happy if the couple speak n write with higher standard of English...?

Also would you be a better friend when you can speak n write with higher standard of English...?

So under many circumstances...n like most things in life for great many folks in here n elsewhere...having higher standard of spoken n written English...does not yield an advantage...

pepsi
17-08-2008, 10:29 PM
Err buddies...you guys missed the point...

Having higher standard of spoken n written English...only gives advantage to certain few professions...like teaching...journalism...publication etc. under fewer circumstances.

Greater n many other professions n business administrations do NOT require higher standard of spoken n written English.

All it takes is the comprehension of what you read n write in English...that makes the real difference...

For an example:-

An English teacher is trying to read n understand what a Medical Doctor or Surgeon writes...in English.

Would it be an advantage to the English teacher that he/she has higher standard of spoken n written English...?

Today you have cheap computers telling you that you have misspelled an English word...n very soon you would probably have the same cheaper computers to correct your grammatical errors...

n for the sakes of conversation...would a relationship or marriage of an English educated couple be happy if the couple speak n write with higher standard of English...?

Also would you be a better friend when you can speak n write with higher standard of English...?

So under many circumstances...n like most things in life for great many folks in here n elsewhere...having higher standard of spoken n written English...does not yield an advantage...
It depends a lot on how bad is the person's english.
We are not talking about simple grammer or spelling mistakes here.
But it would be good when we are submitting a resume, to check for grammer and spelling mistakes. I guess that is why someone invented the "tools" to check spelling or the electric dictionary for reference , otherwise why bother. :)
Out of curiousity, are you saying mandarin language is more important than english ? Secondly, do you think it's necessary to speak and write well in mandarin ?

My personal opinion, mandarin and english is equally important and yes, it is important to speak and write well in mandarin and in english.

birdy
17-08-2008, 10:33 PM
You are comparing apple to pear buddy.. :o

If English is not important...why do u think China want to stress so much on English nowadays? They realize their disadvantages they have now. Our company recently joint ventured with a China company in developing international business. They have all the technology, they have the know-how but they lack of business skills to penetrate International markets. They cannot get international certifications because they cannot converse in English... all these have to depend on us.

I am not trying to proof what you said is wrong ... having good English doesn't give someone a superior status but it definitely give advatage to someone .... Those cannot speak the country native language will have to opt for English as mode of communication. You can't use Chinese in such situation... So, knowing English is definitely an advantage.

orchipalar
17-08-2008, 11:18 PM
Err buddy Birdy...you missed the point by a mile...

Orchi never said..."English is not important"...
Orchi says..."higher standard of spoken n written English".

So this is the BEST example...having higher standard of spoken n written English...does NOT pose as an advantage...

Misunderstanding...

joebloke
17-08-2008, 11:37 PM
Honestly, I would not send my kids to any of those schools. Although I'm Chinese, I want my kids to go to a national school, my observation of chinese school kids are that they are very result oriented and kiasu by nature.....
PianoMan, in case you are still in the slumber, let me remind you that more than 90% of the Chinese parents send their kids to the Chinese schools!! I would put you in the dinosaur category..... :mad:

SJKC are much more competitive to SK, I am sure you wouldn't dispute this fact.

joebloke
17-08-2008, 11:51 PM
There is another thread in this forum telling that Lik Hung will reduce to 10 classes beginnning next year and in order to do that, they will conduct assessment test to filter students. :(
If Chee Wen eventually follows the footstep of Lick Hung in having some kind of an admission test, it would mean that some applicants will be rejected by both schools. Where would they go? This kind of system is terribly wrong!! :confused:

kwchang
18-08-2008, 12:50 AM
Did you guys know that we are already way above most developed countries in terms of linquistic skills? At best most 1st world countries have ONE main language plus a 2nd language. Here in Malaysia, most of us are at least Trilingual - Malay, English and one ethnic dialect (and that includes our Indian and Malay brothers/sisters too). Some can handle at least 2 ethnic dialects and if you add Mandarin, maybe we can qualify those people to know at least 5 languages !! :)

teohtt
21-08-2008, 09:39 PM
Did you guys know that we are already way above most developed countries in terms of linquistic skills? At best most 1st world countries have ONE main language plus a 2nd language. Here in Malaysia, most of us are at least Trilingual - Malay, English and one ethnic dialect (and that includes our Indian and Malay brothers/sisters too). Some can handle at least 2 ethnic dialects and if you add Mandarin, maybe we can qualify those people to know at least 5 languages !! :)

Ya, say we are Trillingual - English, Malay and Chinese, each language we only have one third (1/3) pile. How to excel in all three? :rolleyes:

Jennylim
27-08-2008, 01:02 PM
I am not surprised with the dumping news. Two years ago, a group of students trying to transfer to Lick Hung. Not all accepted by the HM, only those with good result accepted.

This clearly is a policy that against principle of teaching.

The issue here is what can we do about the school?

When my son was in standard 1, there were close to 700 students. This years I heard (heard)there were only about 600 left. This year one of my son's classmates( a problematic student) has transferred to Chee Wen. Another(also not doing well in studies) transferred to private school. These are students seems ignored by the teachers, so the parents has to save their children by transferring.

On English : My British teacher said we are over reacting to mastering of English. A lot of British don't speak good formal English. Clearly the same with Australian - from the news the teachers did poorly in English.

Language is just a communication tools, you have it - good for you! Don't have it - never mindlah, I am sure you are good in something else right? There's many ways to live your life, find your living! - Don't need die die must English right!!! Hawkers earn RM15K a month, how much you earn?

proparents
27-04-2009, 07:25 PM
But Orchi believes that if there was an SK Secondary Chinese school to begin with in SJ/USJ/PutraHeight/Sunway areas...Orchi could place a bet that the school would be heavily packed as well...because there isn't any such school available long since these Chinese majority population townships are built for more than 30 years...

It would be the matter of preference...that many more folks would wish to enroll their childrens into Chinese primary n secondary...

While each year hundreds of students who would select to continue study in Secondary Chinese school...have had to travel far to Klang or Kuala Lumpur where mostly the private funded Secondary Schools are located.
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Oh yes, you are definitely right. Now I have to look for Chinese Sec. School in Klang.
Anyone planning to send thier kid to Hin Hua High School in 2011? Maybe we can car pool?

william_usj
01-05-2009, 09:57 PM
Children is the reflection of the parents.

If they are average/smart/successful mean I as parent, am average/smart /successful. If they are the world MOST idiotic fools, THEN I am the worst MOSTEST idiotic fool of a parent, of course my spouse also takes 50% responsibility lah! :D
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You must be from a chinese school eh? :rolleyes: The word 'disagreed' used in your above sentence should be in present tense, not past tense meaning it should be 'disagree' without the 'd'.

Common mistake made by Chinese school students.


Brother, correct me if I am wrong,

if (Father == Char Kwe Tiau Hawker);
Than((Children == Good in Char Kwe Tiau ) && (not Good in Study);

1) I am a programmer, so my English is == programming language.
2) My father is not good in English but managed to help his son to get a degree in local university.
3) I am Chinese educated I am proud of what I am now.
4) I am not good in English but I always encourage my children to do better in both English and Chinese language.
5) My father is not rich but he teaches me (still) how to earn better and to be a good man.
Finally; I am Malaysian Chinese.

kwchang
02-05-2009, 12:27 AM
..if (Father == Char Kwe Tiau Hawker);
Than((Children == Good in Char Kwe Tiau ) && (not Good in Study)..
The fact of life is people will generalise and have pre-conceived notions. What is important is that you yourself do not get burdened by it. Life is not 1+1=2 because the beauty of biodiversity would never exist.

Basicaly, it is not what people think of you but what is important is to have confidence in yourself and know you own abilities. The problem actually begins when one is overly sensitive to the prejudices of others.

I still remember my classmates from primary school. I know of one kid whose parents brought him up in the famous 9-storey government low-cost flats in the Shaw Road area (at the junction with Dewan Bahasa & Pustaka). Even at my early age, I know that his parents must be very poor. My friend is now a specialist pediatrician, living in Taman Tun. What I learnt from him was he was never ever sensitive about the fact that he had a poor background and he mixed easily with the much richer kids at school. He excelled in his studies and he made his own mark. He was not encumbered by his background. The rich kids never for once looked down on him because he himself was not hampered by the fact he was poor.

I am glad I had the luxury of learning all these from my school mates. From an early age, I learnt from the rich diversity of my school-mates not to view anyone from their Ringgit value but to look beyond the veneer of their financial standing and see the person within.

USJ27Resident
02-05-2009, 01:51 AM
... I learnt from the rich diversity of my school-mates not to view anyone from their Ringgit value but to look beyond the veneer of their financial standing and see the person within.

You are so right... :)

Question is, how many of us can do this... :o

monkey01
02-05-2009, 02:49 PM
You must be from a chinese school eh? :rolleyes: The word 'disagreed' used in your above sentence should be in present tense, not past tense meaning it should be 'disagree' without the 'd'.

Common mistake made by Chinese school students.

mmmmmmMany, I repeat, Many of my students from Lick Hung speak veli.....oh, very good English. You are extremely naive, Mr.Piano. Are you sure you are equipped with the right "attitude" to guide your children?