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brown-eyes
11-08-2008, 11:58 AM
I am doing up my new kitchen and plan to install both cooker hood and cooker hob in my wet kitchen.. Any recommendations as to what to look out for and what are the good brands to buy in the market? I have been going around to look at several brands out there like Fotile, Rinnai, etc.. I am confused as to what I should buy. :confused:

rebling
11-08-2008, 01:30 PM
Go for Fotile Hood and Rinnai Hob (good combination).

Of course if you wanna save money then you buy the promotion set with Hobm, hood and oven but certain brands only good for certain things but not all things.

CS Chua
11-08-2008, 01:37 PM
Are you doing the usual Chinese cooking? If so, the normal hood will not suffice. Get the Pacific suction type. It operates something like the fried kueh teow chimmy looking thing but much prettier.

It has a fan which will suck and blow out the smoke and oil. It is expensive but if it is for your own stay, it is a long term investment.

irisbaggins
11-08-2008, 03:27 PM
how about Fujihome? Any idea if this is good?

brown-eyes
14-08-2008, 08:03 PM
I do cook curries and chinese cooking. You mean I have to pick the right cooker hood for my style of cooking??

I recently went to Perfect Living 08 to check out the cooker hoods and hobs.. took a look at Fotile - the filter is not well designed and will need to clean on a daily basis or else the oil residue will be stuck between the metal netting which is the filter.. I afraid that if i happen to leave it more than a few days - it will be difficult to clean...

However, the fujioh design seemed easier to clean as the design is rather straight forward and suction seemed effective based on the demostration done but pricey... Accordingly to sales person the inner filter just need to clean once a month.. don't know whether true or not? any idea if this actually the case?

Perhaps I will check the Pacfic hood and look at the design and function...

I suppose for cooker hobs... any brand would do, right?

bslee
14-08-2008, 08:41 PM
I suppose for cooker hobs... any brand would do, right?

The most ideal would be ducted with axial exhaust fan (yeah!..noisy no doubt) for most smoky Asian cooking. See the "tai chow"..lots of oily smoke and normal hoods are not the ideal solution if you constantly have lots of smoke. I seem to realize European designed hoods are likely suitable for Western cooking where its usually boil or sautéed, light fries and etc. Our Asian cooking is more "VOILENT!.

kwchang
14-08-2008, 10:58 PM
...the fujioh design seemed easier to clean as the design is rather straight forward and suction seemed effective based on the demostration done but pricey... Accordingly to sales person the inner filter just need to clean once a month.. don't know whether true or not? any idea if this actually the case?...
You may be shocked but I seldom clean our Fujioh hood filter. I clean it after 6 months or so mainly because I am either too lazy or forgetful. The hood is none the worse despite that and still functioning great after 4 or 5 years now. Pricey maybe but it is solidly built and works very well. No trouble with it at all. By the way, don't go for the light weight ones. Ours is the huge looking thing where the stainless steel sheet sits at an angle to the wall. For functionality, do not go for the pretty ones.

finn
15-08-2008, 10:41 AM
Just to add, don't be taken in by hoods with LED lighting. My hood comes with LEDs and the color of the light makes the food looks rather unappetising. :rolleyes:

brown-eyes
15-08-2008, 09:31 PM
Cheez.. thanks for the advice frenz... truly appreciate that.. at least I have a better idea of what to ask and what to look for... :)

Hmm... Fujioh seems to be the ideal cooker hood.. looks like I have got work on the budget for it.. you know renovations, kitchen cabinets, etc.. already cost me a bomb. So any recommended dealers for Fujioh models in Subang?

CS Chua
06-08-2009, 04:18 AM
I am resurrecting this old thread as I am in the market for a kitchen hood. I read good comments about Fotile and Pacifica. Can users of these 2 brands give their honest opinion?

I know Fujioh and Pacific are good but money priority is else where at the moment.

LMei
06-08-2009, 09:07 AM
I bought an electrolux EFT7515X (http://electrolux.com.my/node38.aspx?productid=9690&QPProducts=27445,9689,9684,27444,27443,10634,9690, 9688,9687,9685,9680,9679). It may not have such a nice design as the others but it's easy to clean and good suction power.

CS Chua
06-08-2009, 11:51 AM
May I ask how much is this model? The 1400 m3 suction power is impressive. Other models usually hover around 1000 m3.

LMei
06-08-2009, 12:29 PM
I bought this 2 years back as part of a package with the hob and oven. But I think the price is around RM800 or slightly more. Go check around at Harvey Norman or Tan Boon Ming to find out first.

Sentinel
06-08-2009, 12:58 PM
Wifey combined Rinnai cooker and a Fujioh hood (Oiltech) which is good if your kitchen is rather enclosed and not much free airflow. Its easy to clean too and makes the kitchen look "professional" lah...

CS Chua
06-08-2009, 10:15 PM
I wonder whether the air suction flow quoted by each manufacturer is accurate or misleading. Fujioh and Pacific's air flow is not impressive and seems to be the same range as the other makes, but everybody speaks highly of them. Either the other makes are overestimating their suction power or their machines deteriorate rapidly.

Maybe, should just install the char koey teoh chimmy-type hood. Cheap and effective. :)

CS Chua
26-02-2010, 11:00 AM
An update here. I finally bought a stainless steel Rinnai cooker. And since I was having problems from day 1, I called Rinnai for service. It has a 2-year warranty. Technician came and said the gas regulator is faulty and changed it. Bill includes RM60.00 for coming to the house. What about the 2-year warranty period? Sorry, said technician. Company's policy - please complaint to management. I have never had to pay for service for new items under warranty in my whole life so for me, this is the 1st time.

Think I will buy or recommend Rinnai in future?

BTW, I believe it has a design flaw. Because the flame is so hot, even the knob is hot so when you try to lower the flame, you can get slightly burn touching the knob. When questioned, the technician replied, "Use smaller pots and pans." That is great! Now, I have to change all my kitchen pots and pans to suit Rinnai's cooker. I guess they are meant for Japanese cooking because they use those small and cute looking pots and pans.

bslee
26-02-2010, 11:20 AM
Wow, Rinnai is a great cooker brand (or stove). But I think many models may be already manufactured here and using local content, therefore may not be the same as Rinnai Japan quality. I reckon if there's any from Japan, it'll be pricy. Last I saw the good ones were at Sogo. I've known that Rinnai brand since the 60's.
As for warranty, as with most things the quality of customer support depends on the local distributor and their management culture. Quality product but lousy customer problem IS a problem too.
I suppose its common nowadays that support will charge for house calls, repair or no repair, unless you send back to bench the product for diagnosis and possible repair. Sony charged me RM20 deposit at SC to repair something but returned the money when its found its beyond lifespan, parts and economical repair.
I was really thinking of buying one of those sub RM300 induction stoves for use with most of my Tefal flat base pots or pans. I believe its entirely a perfect match with flat bottom pots with 100% even contact with the base. Gas cookers will eventually destroy these EU designed pots as the gas flame may burn the handle fix/socket area. Of course we can't use the induction stove for a wok.

CS Chua
26-02-2010, 11:47 AM
I was really thinking of buying one of those sub RM300 induction stoves for use with most of my Tefal flat base pots or pans. I believe its entirely a perfect match with flat bottom pots with 100% even contact with the base. Gas cookers will eventually destroy these EU designed pots as the gas flame may burn the handle fix/socket area. Of course we can't use the induction stove for a wok.
You are right in that it did burn some of the handles so we have to use certain pots and pans where the handles are higher. Handles around the rims are the best in this case but I find it ridiculous that we have to adjust to the cooker instead of the cooker meeting our daily needs. Reminds me of my pre-puberty age when I helped Mum to start fire using fire woods. Those days, we do not have a gas cooker and obviously since we use fire woods, we need pots appropriate for fire wood flame. I am back to square one!

bslee
26-02-2010, 12:04 PM
Sorry to hear about your predicament. Its sometimes we all face silly issues like this when buying anything only then to find out some highly rated product don't meet personal expectations. I was about to look for another good gas stove. My current panasonic gas stove is wearing out. A recent check shows Panasonic have entirely discontinued their gas stove line. It was a good brand. I dare not consider those at Mydin or Giant hypermarts.. really dubious and cheap skate quality. Thats why I say this country is a dump house for el-cheapo. El cheapo never mind but I think they can be very questionable on quality and safety standards. What to do?..people still buy them.

CS Chua
26-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Actually, those el cheapo brands can be good. I bought Rinnai because of public recommendations and since I moved into a new place and re-modeled the kitchen, I thought it is time to get something nice and new. Prior to that, I was using a cheap twin burner I bought off the rack from Carrefour and we are so happy with it for so many years. It does not look nice because it sticks out like a sore thumb wherelse these expensive cookers fit nicely into a cut-out hole.

When I was living overseas, I bought some electronic stuff under Tesco brand and they are as reliable as any brands even though they are so much cheaper. For many other consumer items, I usually buy the house brand like Carrefour cooking oil. Inspite what others may say, I feel their quality is within expectation and their prices are substantially lower than the branded ones.

However, for el cheapo items like shoes, clothing, furniture, I prefer branded stuff as their quality justifies their prices. For example, I used to wear Crocodile Gold Series collar T-shirt (RM150 - RM250 those years) and even after 5 years of constant wearing, it looks like new. The color did not fade and neither did the fabrics wear out.

So I guess there is room for cheap and expensive items like there is room for cheap food and expensive food. Everyday eat chap fun also no good. Once a while must go to Shogun or Tai Thong. :)

Erino
26-02-2010, 07:10 PM
I do cook curries and chinese cooking. You mean I have to pick the right cooker hood for my style of cooking??

I recently went to Perfect Living 08 to check out the cooker hoods and hobs.. took a look at Fotile - the filter is not well designed and will need to clean on a daily basis or else the oil residue will be stuck between the metal netting which is the filter.. I afraid that if i happen to leave it more than a few days - it will be difficult to clean...

However, the fujioh design seemed easier to clean as the design is rather straight forward and suction seemed effective based on the demostration done but pricey... Accordingly to sales person the inner filter just need to clean once a month.. don't know whether true or not? any idea if this actually the case?

Perhaps I will check the Pacfic hood and look at the design and function...

I suppose for cooker hobs... any brand would do, right?

Ya Fujioh very good, I cook char kuoy teow, seafoods etc no issue at all.

StonTemplePilot
26-02-2010, 09:06 PM
Ya Fujioh very good, I cook char kuoy teow, seafoods etc no issue at all.

Been using the Fujioh hood and hob for the past 2 years...No complaints and superb for my kitchen..

terisunny
04-03-2013, 01:38 PM
Resurrecting this thread 2nd time :grin2:

Am looking for cooker + hood currently - chinese cooking. Am very keen on Rinnai but reading the old posts, it seems nothing here is made in Japan anymore. Would appreciate any updates on cookers for daily use.

Fujioh hob still seems to be the best?? Any latest feedback from current users would be great!!

Tks

bslee
04-03-2013, 01:52 PM
Go check out some Electrolux models, maybe competitive, pricier than others and look quite cool!..
http://www.electrolux.com.my/node37.aspx?categoryid=15622

Its up to you..your budget, your choice.

Rhiga
04-03-2013, 02:08 PM
Yup, Electrolux and Teka are reliable and simple..

I have been using Teka cooker hoods and gas hob for 6 years, no complaint..

http://www.teka.com/

patrick
04-03-2013, 04:17 PM
Sorry to hear about your predicament. Its sometimes we all face silly issues like this when buying anything only then to find out some highly rated product don't meet personal expectations. I was about to look for another good gas stove. My current panasonic gas stove is wearing out. A recent check shows Panasonic have entirely discontinued their gas stove line. It was a good brand. I dare not consider those at Mydin or Giant hypermarts.. really dubious and cheap skate quality. Thats why I say this country is a dump house for el-cheapo. El cheapo never mind but I think they can be very questionable on quality and safety standards. What to do?..people still buy them.

Quite recently I bought a Pentec burners. See photo below. Wifey likes it because of the glass top and front panel which makes cleaning very easy. Unfortunately, the ignition was a bit faulty. Called up the factory in Butterworth on the problem. And what do you know. Before too long, their staff in KL contacted me, came over in the evening and changed the ignition. And because it was well under warranty...no charge at all !! That speaks voluminously of a local company with triple A service !!

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/moothot/USJ%20Posting/Pentec_zps955c6204.jpg

I have also recently bought a pair of infrared burners. Something like induction, but infrared burners will accept any kind of pots and pans. Dont need to be magnetic. Any one has used these before?

patrick
04-03-2013, 04:23 PM
I would also like to share my idea on cooker hoods. When I was staying in landed property, had used them. Those days in the 70's, choice was very limited. Anyway, wasnt too happy as we didnt find them very effective besides having to clean them every other month. And cleaning was such a chore.....all the grease and grime....yeach!! We finally removed them, constructed a flue like those char koay teow fellas, and connect it to the exterior kitchen wall, with an exhaust fan at the wall. It was the best alternative. Now even in our apartment, we find an exhaust fan is still most effective, cheap to install and much less cleaning to do. Besides, you dont need a wall to install the hood especially in my case where the wall happens to be glass casing windows!! see below..

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/moothot/ExhaustFan_zpsac26df6e.jpg

bslee
04-03-2013, 04:31 PM
A long time ago Panasonic (National) locally made a few gas stove burners..well, for the budget minded. They were good!..I bought one and still using it for 10 years now..I think it was less than 180. Unfortunately Panasonic don't make them anymore. I'm thinking of that Pentec. Patrick?, can you furnish me some details where and how much is yours?..mine about time to change. Mine can call it a day..beyond lifespan and worn. We can talk over PM.

terisunny
04-03-2013, 07:49 PM
Patrick, that's actually a good 'reminder'. We're also using only the exhaust fan now. It serves us well too except when we do fried stuff. The exhaust doesn't seem to have enough 'power'. Thus, we thought having a hood may be a good idea.

I have another query - What about the smell/smoke from oven cooking? I find that when I roast meat in the oven, the smell/smoke 'escapes' and lingers in the dining/living hall for a long time (even upstairs to the room!). Maybe I've my oven in the dry kitchen area which is not the best place? But isn't that where most people have their oven? Does anyone have comments re this?

Electrolux/Teka - good but unfortunately out of budget, esp Teka :) I'm actually keen on Rinnai. But CS Chua's post on 2010 had me thinking again. Was thinking that their service centre is close by, not so troublesome. Seems not the case.

Rhiga
05-03-2013, 09:32 AM
...Electrolux/Teka - good but unfortunately out of budget, esp Teka :) I'm actually keen on Rinnai. But CS Chua's post on 2010 had me thinking again. Was thinking that their service centre is close by, not so troublesome. Seems not the case.


The selection of gas hobs and cooker hoods depends very much on your kitchen design especially the countertop and the cabinet. Budget should be one of the considerations, not the ultimate show stopper...!! :)

If you are currently using gas hob which sit on the surface of countertop like the one shown by Patrick, then your selection of gas hob is much wider and flexible..

Nowadays, most branded kitchen appliances are "built-in" into the cabinet and countertop.

For Teka gas hobs, the kitchen cabinet installer will have to know the dimensions of the model in order to cut a square hole before the gas hob can be "mounted" on the countertop. The advantage of this design is - it is easier for cleaning as there is no space/gap between the gas hob and the countertop. It looks neat as the gas hose is hidden underneath the countertop. The selection of the right product is very important as you want to avoid the hassle to rework the countertop if the gas hob gives you problem and has to change a new one.

Your choice of gas hob is also depend on your cooking style and the types of food you normally cook for your family. Your cooking and food preference will influence whether you need two or three burners, and where the large, medium and small burner should be located is also a factor in selection. For example, we steam fish and prawn more than frying other meat. Hence, we specifically chose a gas hob where the medium burner is inside (for long steaming) and large burner outside for fast cooking of vege.

Sometimes, when you purchase more items from the same brand you may have a good bargain. When I did the renovation of my condo, I told the kitchen cabinet installer that I will get all Teka for my kitchen appliance and accessories which include gas hobs, cooker hoods, kitchen sink and tap mixer. I got 15% discount from the retail price.

Personally, I prefer Germans and Japanese household appliances and for the case of kitchen appliance I think Germans are better. Their products are always simple and reliable.


Cheers

Rhiga
05-03-2013, 09:43 AM
....I have another query - What about the smell/smoke from oven cooking? I find that when I roast meat in the oven, the smell/smoke 'escapes' and lingers in the dining/living hall for a long time (even upstairs to the room!). Maybe I've my oven in the dry kitchen area which is not the best place? But isn't that where most people have their oven? Does anyone have comments re this?



The smell of cooking will always be there, no matter what appliance you use.

You can minimize the “spread” of this smell by installing sliding door between your kitchen and dining hall.

If your kitchen has large windows or door to "outdoor" like laundry yard, this will help to divert the smell to open air.

terisunny
05-03-2013, 11:08 AM
Thanks for adv, Rhiga! We\re renovating now, so everything is 'up in the air'. Teka after 15% oso too much, unfortunately.

As my stove will be next to the door, I wonder if using an exhaust fan will be enough. This way, I can save some $$ :D

Anyway, will journey on with the research. Tks!

patrick
06-03-2013, 09:45 PM
A long time ago Panasonic (National) locally made a few gas stove burners..well, for the budget minded. They were good!..I bought one and still using it for 10 years now..I think it was less than 180. Unfortunately Panasonic don't make them anymore. I'm thinking of that Pentec. Patrick?, can you furnish me some details where and how much is yours?..mine about time to change. Mine can call it a day..beyond lifespan and worn. We can talk over PM.

Bought the Pentec at the Store in Shah Alam for less than RM150. Carrefour also used to carry some stocks. Perhaps you can call Mr Yap at 04 5077802 who is based in Butterworth to check on the outlet with most stocks. Alternatively, try calling the sales person in KL Mr Hau at 0176699228. Rgds.

patrick
06-03-2013, 09:50 PM
Patrick, that's actually a good 'reminder'. ....

I have another query - What about the smell/smoke from oven cooking? I find that when I roast meat in the oven, the smell/smoke 'escapes' and lingers in the dining/living hall for a long time (even upstairs to the room!). Maybe I've my oven in the dry kitchen area which is not the best place? But isn't that where most people have their oven? Does anyone have comments re this? ....


If you use exhaust fan, you should isolate your cooking area so that the exhaust fan can be effective. Better still, close all doors and windows when cooking in the wet kitchen so that the fan can focus on extracting the cooking fumes and smell from the kitchen. After cooking, keep all the doors/windows closed and the exhaust fan ON for another 10 or 15 minutes. We find that by following this ritual, there is hardly any smell after any cooking.

bslee
06-03-2013, 10:04 PM
Patrick, Thanks for the info. :)

patrick
07-03-2013, 05:11 PM
Patrick, Thanks for the info. :)

Btw, saw at Jusco Sunway an Elba 2-burner with glass top but the side is not glass. Look well built but cost RM218. See below.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/moothot/USJ%20Posting/Elba_zpse2c84ecc.jpg

patrick
08-03-2013, 06:24 PM
For cooking without the hassle of smell, grease and smoke, the latest in cooking "technology" to consider are those sealed cooking pans. Heard of Happy Call and Queensense? Both from Korea. You can google for more details. Basically, these are 2 pieces of cooking pans clapped together and food is cooked under vacuum kind of condition. Little or no oil is needed. Key difference is HappyCall uses silicone rim to seal in the cooking condition whereas Queensense dont use silicone rim and I would imagine is less airtight but supposed to use a kind of marble technology for the pans' surface. Queen is cheaper but seem to be quite good too. BUT the big difference is Queen 2 pans can be easily separated at he hinge. Make handling and washing easier. Happy is hinged dead so handling is a little more cumbersome. May get one for ourselves, but later....no urgency since we eat out most of the time anyway !!

jan tomaswaki
08-03-2013, 07:41 PM
The last time i bought with glass panel ,it went bongkak after 6 months as ignition.

patrick
09-03-2013, 09:10 AM
The last time i bought with glass panel ,it went bongkak after 6 months as ignition.

Bruder, the piezo ignition can bong regardless with glass panel or not. Really, the ignition has nothing to do with the ignition.. it's the make of the hotplate/burner/cooker. But if you can get a spare ignition, you can change it very easily.