House break in USJ 9/3D this morning.

[tancy]

Dear USJ residents,
I wish to share this unfortunate 2nd incident at my house this morning @ 5.02am.
Fortunately, my house's alarm was trigger when they cut off my Solex lock at the sliding door. On April, 29th my house was broken in through the main door during the 11am+ timing and my losses was heavy for the 1st time since I move in 1995.
USJ / Subang Jaya has become very unsafe these days with so many stories of house break ins and snatch thefts. From my CCTV, I can see two young fair robbers ( with jacket / cap / sling tool bag) in my house compound while one driver waiting in the car, a Honda City. They cut my auto gate's manual Solex lock and then they open my gate slightly about 2 feet to allow them to come in.
So, my dear residents, how can we make our place a better place to live in.
Pl's comment and together let's do something about it.
Regards
TANCY

[spinner]

Does your place there have ronda-ronda security? Im living in USJ3 and I paid for the ronda-ronda guy every month. Whether effective or not.. I really do not know...

Just have to say: Pray Hard....! Not only Subang & USJ, but the whole Msia is just a whole notorious place!

[chaywh]

have a home defense dog for your house security, usually people wouldn't break into houses with home defense dog. Put up a small sign "German Shepherd inside the house" with a fabricated dog's face photo ;)

[tancy]

The Ronda Ronda in my area just started 2 weeks ago after an absence of many months ago. The guy came to my house when the patrol car came (about 5+am) and he told the Police that he saw a car passing by earlier which I can confirm from my CCTV recordings. From the CCTV, I can see the City doing few rounds (from 3am) before they attack my house. When the alarm was triggered for more than 5 minutes nobody came out to check or help. I have had some bad experiences before with those ronda ronda. They come and go (very often) and only know how to ask for money. I think we need to have a better organized security patrol organization.

[tancy]

Did thought about having a dog to help guard the house but there are also many inconvenience areas to manage. However, may need a serious look at this idea again. Tks!

[chaywh]

Well, dog will listen to commands, it will control its food consumption...no need to worry. Just put one bowl of dry dog food, one big container of water, and a small ground with grass... you can spend a week in oversea :)

[Nowiam]

Dear USJ residents,
I wish to share this unfortunate 2nd incident at my house this morning @ 5.02am.
Fortunately, my house's alarm was trigger when they cut off my Solex lock at the sliding door.


My regrets for your unfortunate experience.

Can I ask, for the common benefit, when you say they cut your Solex, do you mean the cut the lock itself or the metal parts of your grill/door which the lock holds?

[Sato]

My regrets for your unfortunate experience.

Can I ask, for the common benefit, when you say they cut your Solex, do you mean the cut the lock itself or the metal parts of your grill/door which the lock holds?

i think it doesn't matter anymore as they break-in the house already,most important no one is hurt during the break-in. Just try way to enhance your own house security, police cannot be depend on anymore becos thiefs and robbers nowadays are just too wicked!

[chin_wan]

i think it doesn't matter anymore as they break-in the house already,most important no one is hurt during the break-in. Just try way to enhance your own house security, police cannot be depend on anymore becos thiefs and robbers nowadays are just too wicked!

Funny you should mention that. Ever wondered how come thieves these days are getting more cunning and better at doing their "job"? Here's my personal experience.

I was held in a lock up in the early 90s for playing illegal firecrackers during Chinese New Year. I was held overnight and my parents bailed me out the next morning. Went to court and got fined.

Anyway, when I was in lock up, I met all kinds of people there. Snatch thieves, drug addicts, etc. all of which waiting for court day. I was lucky to have my family who helped me. The rest are just there waiting.

What happen when you wait? You have nothing to do so you swap stories. Thief A would tell thief B what he did and what his mistakes were and vice versa. It was like a college for criminals. I was there for 1 night and I learned a lot from these people on how to be street smart! Can you imagine being in the lock up for months where criminals come and go. That's a lot of lesson to be learned!

It's like going in as a thief and graduating from it as a robber.

Conclusion: Don't send unnecessary people to lock up. Non-criminal offenders like drug addicts should be sent to rehab.

[Sato]

Funny you should mention that. Ever wondered how come thieves these days are getting more cunning and better at doing their "job"? Here's my personal experience.

I was held in a lock up in the early 90s for playing illegal firecrackers during Chinese New Year. I was held overnight and my parents bailed me out the next morning. Went to court and got fined.

Anyway, when I was in lock up, I met all kinds of people there. Snatch thieves, drug addicts, etc. all of which waiting for court day. I was lucky to have my family who helped me. The rest are just there waiting.

What happen when you wait? You have nothing to do so you swap stories. Thief A would tell thief B what he did and what his mistakes were and vice versa. It was like a college for criminals. I was there for 1 night and I learned a lot from these people on how to be street smart! Can you imagine being in the lock up for months where criminals come and go. That's a lot of lesson to be learned!

It's like going in as a thief and graduating from it as a robber.

Conclusion: Don't send unnecessary people to lock up. Non-criminal offenders like drug addicts should be sent to rehab.

talking about wicked, when the 1st time my was break-in my thief, they come thru the roof becos my front door and back door is very strong. Then second they break-in my house again, they tear down the grill of my kitchen. The third time they break-in my house, they come tru the roof again, this time they break the ceiling and climb down thru wall cabinets and ransacked my house. The forth time they break-in my house also thru the roof,they break the ceiling,land on the fridge and ransacked my house. The fifth time they pull off my house main fuse and let the whole house out of power supply for whole night and they throw away the main fuse. But due to the stupid thief mistake when he want to switch on the room light,he go press the panic button alarm. Alarm triggered, he go for a quick ransack and quickly climb out of the house. Can believe it,nothing is stolen becos I didn't keep anything expensive at home worth stealing.

Conclusion : thiefs are desperate nowadays, only when our country economy improve,opportunity of work increase then the criminal rate will reduce. Otherwise,expect this to be a common problems. No police can help you unless they are notify to act on it during the "right" time.

[bslee]

Conclusion : thiefs are desperate nowadays, only when our country economy improve,opportunity of work increase then the criminal rate will reduce. Otherwise,expect this to be a common problems. No police can help you unless they are notify to act on it during the "right" time.


Time to find a pair of Rottweiler dogs!..one in front, one at backyard. Muslim or NO muslim..religious ideals aside, my home security come first. DOGS CAN guard the house as a basic measure!. :D Am I joking here?..definitely NOT!.

[wyshin88]

:( How sad it is to ehar this kind of news, an honest people like us working hard and earning every dollar with our blood and sweat and yet some low life lazy $#@$@ come and break in to our house and make our life miserable.

I wonder why tancy's house has CCTV also didn't deter the breakin, thieves are getting braver and braver nowadays, sad! :(

[Sato]

Time to find a pair of Rottweiler dogs!..one in front, one at backyard. Muslim or NO muslim..religious ideals aside, my home security come first. DOGS CAN guard the house as a basic measure!. :D Am I joking here?..definitely NOT!.

i can't get dog becos my son scare of animals, maybe live current wires will do to the job better to deter those low life,it will give them shocking suprises! :D

[Sato]

:( How sad it is to ehar this kind of news, an honest people like us working hard and earning every dollar with our blood and sweat and yet some low life lazy $#@$@ come and break in to our house and make our life miserable.

I wonder why tancy's house has CCTV also didn't deter the breakin, thieves are getting braver and braver nowadays, sad! :(

cctv is nothing nowadays,look at those thief that aim atm machine in petrol station,they still can escape.

[tsd]

the thief who got into my house went into coma after they crashed during a police chase, I hope my house is being blacklisted by the thief.

Maybe some of you saw that news on TV.

I heard from the police, those solex especially sold at pasar malam is not a good lock. Spend more money buy better locks.

[Sato]

the thief who got into my house went into coma after they crashed during a police chase, after that I guess my house was blacklisted. Never have second break-in.

Maybe some of you saw that news on TV.

so any update on your case? they sent him to jail or let him off?

[tsd]

he recovered from coma already, this lawyer is very smart.. kept on delaying the court case... so at the end he only needs to sit in the jail for few days and he off on the street again.

[wyshin88]

he recovered from coma already, this lawyer is very smart.. kept on delaying the court case... so at the end he only needs to sit in the jail for few days and he off on the street again.

:mad: :mad: :mad: WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? This is crazy!!!

[chaywh]

I don't know if Malaysia got Independent Police Complaints Commission, you can check it out with your attorney. But this is Malaysia, whatever you do to against the gov.. it might not be effective. I've seen people at Taman Mayang catch theif, usually the crowd will help hitting the theif, break his arm, throw stones and etc... I think they know the police will release the theif later, coz the theif is one of their kind.

[Shaneburger]

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So, my dear residents, how can we make our place a better place to live in.
Pl's comment and together let's do something about it.
Regards
TANCY

may I suggest rukun tetangga - worked well during dad's time and made lifelong friends too :)

[chaywh]

nowadays we don't even dare to let our neighbours keep our house key when we are going oversea... still prefer a home defend dog, also worked well and made lifelong friend :)

[tsd]

:mad: :mad: :mad: WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????? This is crazy!!!

yep for some "lucky" ones, they dont even have to sit in the jail for a single day.

[chaywh]

for those who were angry and surprise, you may want to sing Negarakuku :) haha

[Harmony]

nowadays we don't even dare to let our neighbours keep our house key when we are going oversea... still prefer a home defend dog, also worked well and made lifelong friend :)

That is because you don't know your neighbours well enough... let alone trusting them :rolleyes:

My faith teaches me to be kind to thy neighbours for they are our closest "relatives".

I am pleased to say that I trust my neighbours (and vice versa) that we give our house keys to each other when when we go outstation. Yes! It's still happening in USJ :) And yes, we are Malays, Chinese and Indians! I have stayed in USJ2 since 1992 whereas my immediate neighbours moved in much later.

[chaywh]

It is the same like giving people your ATM card with password & I/C no... I can't assume that people doesn't change... and things happen then only you know they've already changed. Your neighbours wouldn't tell you their financial condition, health condition, their friends and etc... coz it's their life privacy...thus, the words "friend" and "neighbour" carry different meaning.

I'm not saying should or shouldn't do so, just set a protection level of your antivirus program. :)

[Chia Hak Soon]

Thieves and robbers are intelligent people and they do their homework before any hit. From the frequent reports by the media, they realise that our police is 'shorthanded' and therefore it poses a great opportunity to strike,

We can talk about CCTV, Alarm, Locksets, Grilles and Dogs., but we also hear stories of dogs being drugged, lockset and grille forced open, cctv recorded but police cannot identify robbers. With the current downturn, we seems to be the best abd easiest target.Rukun Tetangga, night watch, it is only a deterent for certain hours..

Believe me we are in a state of lawlessness, and to deal with it , there are ways.

Police presence is imperative, but will they provide and even if they do, will they guard us or themselves or the thieves.?

Follow USA, relax the gun laws and let every household own a firearm , that makes us equal and the thieves and robbers will think not only twice but many times before a hit. In this senerio, we do away with grilles.
Since owning firearms is remote, so either we build our house better than the Sg, Buloh jail and we become the self imposed prisoner.

The other simple alternative is to use reverse intelligent. ; Take out all grilles, leave the gate open , put a couple of swords and faked martial arts certs prominently displayed in the hall and visible from outside. Hang a punch bag on the outside and have some kicks and punches, while doing the exercise stick some fierce tattoos,. It not only give you exercise but shows that you are tough and ready. I can bet that if you do it, your house will be spared.

Alternatively, make the whole front looks poor and shabby, drives a ramshackle car. Thieves chooses their victims and they won't disturb you.

[tsd]

the thief are not afraid because they know even if they are caught, the punishment that they will get is minor ( or will not get ). Sitting in the jail for few days, meeting some old friends... I guess no problem for them. Besides, how many times to they get caught opposing to geting away with the theft ?

[tancy]

My x2 solex lock (both orginal USA made just bought from nearby DIY shop after the 1st break in) was cut (main gate & sliding door). The alarm system really save my family for this incident. My suggest is to weld a cover over the lock holder so that they do not have access to cut the lock handle. Anyway, I just strengthen with covers over all the lock holders yesterday.
Dog is a good suggestion but a lot of mess to take care as well.
Yeah, we need to really protect ourselves like roof need to be seal, back lane seal, CCTV & good alarm and a good grill system with covers and strong locks probably steel type.
I pray & hope that there would not be a 3rd time for me like some of you guys bad experience.
Our country really has deteriorated to a very sad state especially on the security situation.
We, USJ / SJ residents need to get together and do something about it by working closely with our Police as they are also under staff and have difficulty to help us.
What do you all think?
Regards

[wyshin88]

My x2 solex lock (both orginal USA made just bought from nearby DIY shop after the 1st break in) was cut (main gate & sliding door). The alarm system really save my family for this incident. My suggest is to weld a cover over the lock holder so that they do not have access to cut the lock handle. Anyway, I just strengthen with covers over all the lock holders yesterday.

Regards

Hi Tancy, I don't really know what u mean by "weld a cover over the lock holder ", do you have a picture to show as an example?

Really sad, we are making our house security better than a jail cell and yet still get breaks in. So what did the police say? Are they on the look out for the thieves?

[tsd]

maybe it is something like this

http://www.secfen.co.uk/photos_small/gate_s_31.jpg

[Chia Hak Soon]

Wyshin, No the police are on the look out for you using the handphone while driving. On the lighter note, as tancy experienced , sealed up the roof and fix an alarm , which you can trigger off like your car alarm. Fix a peephole ( like those found in hotel rooms) on all bedroom doors.

[Harmony]

It is the same like giving people your ATM card with password & I/C no... I can't assume that people doesn't change... and things happen then only you know they've already changed. Your neighbours wouldn't tell you their financial condition, health condition, their friends and etc... coz it's their life privacy...thus, the words "friend" and "neighbour" carry different meaning.

I'm not saying should or shouldn't do so, just set a protection level of your antivirus program. :)

By trusting your neighbours or anyone for that matter, does not mean that you have to detailed out all your intimate and p&c matters to them.

It sad that people are loosing their human values that we are always suspicious of others. Totally agree with you that we can't trust everyone, but I am sure there are people in our neighbourhood that we can rely on, in times of need. Get to know them and over time, from their words and behaviours you can make judgment if he/she can be trusted or not.

[HTCHONG]

the thief are not afraid because they know even if they are caught, the punishment that they will get is minor ( or will not get ). Sitting in the jail for few days, meeting some old friends... I guess no problem for them. Besides, how many times to they get caught opposing to geting away with the theft ?

Both Malaysia and Singapore were British colonies. We are having similar civil laws but why such a big different in term of crime rate when cross over the causeway....the efficiency of police and stiff punishment will defintely help to deter crime.

But, most importantly, improving income of one is the root to go.

[Sato]

Both Malaysia and Singapore were British colonies. We are having similar civil laws but why such a big different in term of crime rate when cross over the causeway....the efficiency of police and stiff punishment will defintely help to deter crime.

But, most importantly, improving income of one is the root to go.

Singapore is a "FINE"land while Malaysia is a Bolehland, that really speak the end result. The key word here is strict enforcement which Malaysia don't have any.

[chaywh]

Get to know them and over time, from their words and behaviours you can make judgment if he/she can be trusted or not.

I was just giving example, coz house key means value of all your valuable things in your house, including your passport. There is a sentence in Cantonese, "human heart is separated by stomach skin" :) I don't prejudge people by what they said and what they do. My bottom line is much higher, coz i'm staying in Malaysia and i understand the risks around me :) Of coz not everyone will think like me.

[chaywh]

Singapore is a "FINE"land while Malaysia is a Bolehland, that really speak the end result. The key word here is strict enforcement which Malaysia don't have any.

I'm 100% agreed with Sato. If (i said if) the public is really given the freedom in speaking, i would like to say, luckily BOLEH is not a chinese word. :)

[bslee]

I'm 100% agreed with Sato. If (i said if) the public is really given the freedom in speaking, i would like to say, luckily BOLEH is not a chinese word. :)
What lah.. there ARE!.. and it reflects the mindset and culture just the same..matter of how one interpret or views it altogether.
Tuck ker lah!.. Yong tak maR!.. Kau tim sai!. Hai kam ke yong mar!. Are we all to deny this doesn't exist?..

[chaywh]

What lah.. there ARE!.. and it reflects the mindset and culture just the same..matter of how one interpret or views it altogether.
Tuck ker lah!.. Yong tak maR!.. Kau tim sai!. Hai kam ke yong mar!. Are we all to deny this doesn't exist?..

it took me few minutes to understand what you have written. :confused: .. initially it sounds like dirty words.. :eek: especialy when you read the "first word only" of all four sentences :D ...hee hee... just joking :p i wasn't purposely reading the 4 words, i skipped words when i can't catch it.

Well, the result is different coz i always deliver the best as promissed, it's the core value of a person that makes the result different from each other. I'm serious about this 4 sentences when i'm using them in businesses, coz it reflects a personality, responsibility and accountability of a person and the whole corporation which he's representing.

[SunwayK]

Alternatively, make the whole front looks poor and shabby, drives a ramshackle car. Thieves chooses their victims and they won't disturb you.

This house has a decade old junk park in the front porch. The weeds on the lawn are high enough to hide anyone who wants some privacy. Gates and Grills are rusted to the point where a kid can pull it apart. The locks are branded 3 rings China-made. And yet this place was chosen and one should ponder why.

[tsd]

This house has a decade old junk park in the front porch. The weeds on the lawn are high enough to hide anyone who wants some privacy. Gates and Grills are rusted to the point where a kid can pull it apart. The locks are branded 3 rings China-made. And yet this place was chosen and one should ponder why.

I knew someone who left his house after sold. Few weeks later, front gate went missing, few days later... grills went missing. Not sure what else inside the house went missing.

[Chia Hak Soon]

Sunway K, That house you are refering to is ransacked by scrap hunters or drug addicts. If you want to view more of this, visit Lembah Berigin and drive along the linked empty houses ( most are empty anyway ).

Look, if I am a thief or robber and I was surveying which to strike and suddenly I saw a house with gates and door open with no grilles and occupants staying in , I would say something is not right, it is too easy to be true. Either they are so poor that it have nothing of value or they have nothing to lose. Better try a well gated, well protected one. Chances is that the occupants are scared to death and such enclosure usually are loners without any neighbour connection. :D

This put us to the question of good neighbours relation,. However to tell you the truth, it is not easy as some may said you are too intrudding into others affair. So how? The theives and robbers knows about it and that is why they are not afraid. Finnaly I think we are our own culprit that create this senario and it is unavoidable as long as we remain a proud,selfish, unsocial,and we will have to live with this by employing guards to sustain our greed.

[SunwayK]

Sunway K, That house you are refering to is ransacked by scrap hunters or drug addicts. .....

Chia HS, don't be like that lah. The place is a bit rundown because it is rented premises. I was describing the place where I stay!! :D

Scrap Hunters or drug addicts would not be interested in my Grado Headphones, Montblanc pen, rechargeable batteries or walkie talkies. They would not come in via the loft. Neither would they not take the portable safe with them.

My point - these scump of the earth are opportunists, not analysts who does research on which home to strike.

[cutebanana]

Dear USJ residents,
I wish to share this unfortunate 2nd incident at my house this morning @ 5.02am.
Fortunately, my house's alarm was trigger when they cut off my Solex lock at the sliding door. On April, 29th my house was broken in through the main door during the 11am+ timing and my losses was heavy for the 1st time since I move in 1995.
USJ / Subang Jaya has become very unsafe these days with so many stories of house break ins and snatch thefts. From my CCTV, I can see two young fair robbers ( with jacket / cap / sling tool bag) in my house compound while one driver waiting in the car, a Honda City. They cut my auto gate's manual Solex lock and then they open my gate slightly about 2 feet to allow them to come in.
So, my dear residents, how can we make our place a better place to live in.
Pl's comment and together let's do something about it.
Regards
TANCY

If it is possible, pls let us see the pictures of the break-in, how they manage to prise open the door, the locks, etc.

That would be beneficial to all of us, and would help us to guard our houses better.

[tancy]

Yes, my wife already requested me to connect a live wire to the main gate when we are sleeping. Maybe, 110VAC is good enough to give the burgler a shock of his life.

[tancy]

Yes, rukun tetangga is a good idea but participation was very poor due to the fact that people do not get leave for doing this service. If the government can endorse this project again (to improve the security situation) and make it mandatory plus getting employers to give the leave + joint patrols with police + some funds to put up a beat base then I am sure it would be a success.
We all should make our request loud and clear to the government.

[tancy]

Hi cute banana / wyshin,
I would try to post the CCTV video of the break-in plus the picture of the lock holder that I was refering.
Stay tune for it soon.
Regards

[dd33]

Its embarrassing we have this kind of police force. Utter disgusting & this is the people we depend to catch criminals(they themselves behave like criminals)....hmmm make me wonder

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/11/nation/21793948&sec=nation

[chaywh]

Its embarrassing we have this kind of police force. Utter disgusting & this is the people we depend to catch criminals(they themselves behave like criminals)....hmmm make me wonder

This is only reported case, what about those didn't report? The best is to KNOW YOUR RIGHT when you're in police station, else call your lawyer to escort you. The gov should carry out more programs for all the police in Malaysia, not just Anti-Rasuah program, they should have Anti-Sex, Anti-Rape, Anti-Oral Sex and etc to all of them. :mad: Animal! What a shame! I still remember the case of chinese women being forced to take off her clothes, and what was the punishment to the police? Being covered up?

[terisunny]

was told this story by a fren.......couple of weeks ago, 3 yourng chinese guys robbed his immdte neighbour in broad daylight where we stay, SS 19. the house is nothing much to look at, like mine....but they 'marked' it anyway. unless you know how to open the gate, the neighbour's gate is locked at all times. It's open by pulling the 'bottom' lever of the one side of the gate. Unless someone has seen them doing it, you won't know how to. In fact, he said the police who came after had to climb the gates to get in !!

anyway, they came before 10am and left in 10 mins, ransacking the whole house!! held a knife to the neighbour's neck and she's oredi 70+. luckily they didn't harm her.

the most 'wonderful' thing of all is nobody suspected anything at all, including his family who went about their business as usual!!! the other neighbours too wondered about the police car which came.

it seems the police say that the 3 chinese have been at it for a while!! wonder how is it they've never been caught...

I shudder to think if it's my house instead......what is the world becoming...or is it only in bolehland.....

[dd33]

I shudder to think if it's my house instead......what is the world becoming...or is it only in bolehland.....
Crimes are everywhere in the world.
But in bolehland...it got worst after BADAWI took office :mad:

[chaywh]

Crimes are everywhere in the world.
But in bolehland...it got worst after BADAWI took office :mad:

If the position of PM would need to be walk-in for interview, i believe the maximum the authority allows him to do is to fill up the interview form :)