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xfile007
09-05-2008, 08:58 PM
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More than 1,000 demonstrators were there at Bandar Mahkota Cheres.

Lim Lip Eng pulled the plug of a generator which the contractor used.

Then, one resident started to push down the barricade by hand, second person joined. Later, hundred joined in the force.

Police wanted to use water canon. Lim Lip Eng then stood in front of a water cannon to prevent the police from aiming it at the crowd. He was then assaulted by the policemen and residents rushed to his rescue but all were overpowered by the water canon. Ean Yong Hean Wah soldiered on to assist his peer.

At least two rounds of tear gas were then fired...

At the end of the video, you may hear this from a policeman, "mari jalan, tadi panggil balik tak mahu balik, tadi ingat sendiri taikor, sekarang apa macam?'"

USJ27Resident
09-05-2008, 09:22 PM
After watching this "censored from the rest of Malaysia" video... can somebody tell me why are the cops (FRU) busy whacking the daylights out of residents instead of tackling crime... :mad:

where were these COPS when Sharlinie disappeared... :mad:

where were these COPS when our PH neighbour Choo Ching got carjacked and murdered... :mad:

Goddammit !!! WHERE.... :mad:

logicman
09-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Goddamit!!! Men in blue are bas****.

camry32
09-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Goddamit!!! Men in blue are bas****.
Only a pariah govmen will treat her citizens like this !!!!!!

Kenneth20
10-05-2008, 12:02 AM
booooootoeeeeee la..

kuma
10-05-2008, 01:53 AM
Can anyone update us on what is happening? Only Malaysiakini is covering it. Some prominent bloggers have not even mentioned it. And Malaysiakini says that residents are complaining that the state govt is not getting involved and MB not visiting site.

silver_bird
10-05-2008, 02:28 AM
Police brutality - Bandar Mahkota Cheras 8th May 2008
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/7151/84/

Segambut MP YB Lim Lip Eng in hospital
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/7178/84/

Special meeting on Cheras access road issue
http://themalaysianinsider.com/mni/special-meeting-on-cheras-access-road-issue.html

Video Clip : Ex-Minister of Works on Toll Concessionaires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJxG7-PuHEk&feature=related

praetor
10-05-2008, 02:30 AM
Greetings.

Has the police lost their mind? They are supposed to protect us, the citizens. What are they doing beating citizens? This is wrong, nay, fundamentally wrong. Someone is going to pay for these misdeeds. There better be someone talking to us or the police is going to face the music by a massive reduction of public co-operation.

Ave!

sinleong
10-05-2008, 02:42 AM
the selangor govt is doing all they can, as you can see ean yong and ronnie liu have been on site.

the land where the barricade is belongs to the selangor state. so the barricade is illegal. the state can take grand saga and the federal govt to court. But the problem is, the court and the police are controlled by the federal govt.

this is where you see the federal govt using the police to whack citizens when instead they should be arresting the grand saga people for building an illegal structure on state land.

SS19flyover
10-05-2008, 10:09 AM
I just wish that by September what Anwar claim will come true, and put these group of animal back to the zoo.

pywong
10-05-2008, 10:58 AM
Don't get excited. Just take photos of the bullies and keep it for future evidence.

Such people operate in anonymity or secrecy, thinking they will not be recognized. There will be a day of reckoning. And it is not far away.

bobkee
10-05-2008, 11:08 AM
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Dont you know
Theyre talkin bout a revolution
It sounds like a whisper
Dont you know
Theyre talkin about a revolution
It sounds like a whisper

While theyre standing in the welfare lines
Crying at the doorsteps of those armies of salvation
Wasting time in the unemployment lines
Sitting around waiting for a promotion

Poor people gonna rise up
And get their share
Poor people gonna rise up
And take whats theirs

Dont you know
You better run, run, run...
Oh I said you better
Run, run, run...

Finally the tables are starting to turn
Talkin bout a revolution

pywong
10-05-2008, 02:13 PM
Poor people gonna rise up
And get their share
Poor people gonna rise up
And take whats theirs
Bob, no one owe us a living. We have to work for it.
We may help poor people out of a sense of compassion, not obligation.
It is better we get off this welfare mentality and pull our weight.

After trying their best and they still can't make it, a compassionate govt should give them a helping hand. The focus should be on helping people to help themselves.

You know the saying:
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.
Teach him how to fish, you feed him for life. :)

yvonnefoong
10-05-2008, 02:51 PM
pywong: What you said it true, but only in some context. Like, in a Marxist Capitalistic society, proletariats lack the opportunity to break free from the vicious cycle. A friend of mine is a good example. I can't blame her. As though the system has cheated on her. Heartbreaking because we both have the same illness and live in neighbouring, prosperous cities. But her economic condition is a mess and she can't break free due to years of segregation and deprivation.

Bob: Tell poor Yvonne who sang that song and what is it about yeah?

By the way, this is not out of topic. I see the connection between what Bob, PYWONG, and I discussed, and this thread's topic. If citizens have more power, we won't be bullied by the government like this. Sigh.

firefox
10-05-2008, 02:56 PM
Why is Pakatan Rakyat very qiuet on this issue?...and also why aren't they supporting Karpal Singh on the other issue..I am feeling very disappointed with PR's couldnt careless attitude.

HAN2
10-05-2008, 02:57 PM
Bob, no one owe us a living. We have to work for it.
We may help poor people out of a sense of compassion, not obligation.
It is better we get off this welfare mentality and pull our weight.

After trying their best and they still can't make it, a compassionate govt should give them a helping hand. The focus should be on helping people to help themselves.

You know the saying:
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.
Teach him how to fish, you feed him for life. :)
You're talking totally out of context, PYWong.

No one is propagating a welfare mentality here. Not one bit at all.

We are all talking about residents who are fighting for their rights not to pay 90 sen each time they leave their house and drive back along a road that belongs to them until some toll concessionaire come and build a barrier and forced them to drive several kilometres further and have to fork out 90 sen each trip.

So, what teaching people how to fish are you talking about here?

Citizens are being beaten up by the very men-in-blue who were supposed to protect them after all these are taxpayers you are talking about. Like USJ27Resident said, these cops should be out there solving crimes instead of provoking and beating up citizens. Where were they when one among us Choo Ching was robbed of his Hilux and murdered? Hey, that was only last week!

Or didn't you know about it as you were busy talking about investing in gold?

Joe Gomez
10-05-2008, 03:17 PM
pywong, in which part of the song do you read .............

"someone owes us a living"
OR even
"teaching people how to fish is undesirable"
OR even
"welfare mentality is desirable"

pywong, Theyre talkin bout a revolution nothing to do with handouts

I missed church last week but your homily lessened the guilt for me cos I felt like I was in church while reading your post. :D

Why lah py ? :confused:

bobkee
10-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Bob: Tell poor Yvonne who sang that song and what is it about yeah?Tracy Chapman's classic .. Talkin' Bout A Revolution :)

bobkee
10-05-2008, 03:56 PM
Bob, no one owe us a living. We have to work for it.
We may help poor people out of a sense of compassion, not obligation.
It is better we get off this welfare mentality and pull our weight.

After trying their best and they still can't make it, a compassionate govt should give them a helping hand. The focus should be on helping people to help themselves.

You know the saying:
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day.
Teach him how to fish, you feed him for life. :)I guess my early influences show ;)


All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had .. There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

yvonnefoong
10-05-2008, 04:03 PM
But then... PY can still say...

Because many have depended on handouts that's why the government has come to such a stage!! :P

pywong
10-05-2008, 04:26 PM
You're talking totally out of context, PYWong.

No one is propagating a welfare mentality here. Not one bit at all.

We are all talking about residents who are fighting for their rights not to pay 90 sen each time they leave their house and drive back along a road that belongs to them until some toll concessionaire come and build a barrier and forced them to drive several kilometres further and have to fork out 90 sen each trip.

So, what teaching people how to fish are you talking about here?

Citizens are being beaten up by the very men-in-blue who were supposed to protect them after all these are taxpayers you are talking about. Like USJ27Resident said, these cops should be out there solving crimes instead of provoking and beating up citizens. Where were they when one among us Choo Ching was robbed of his Hilux and murdered? Hey, that was only last week!

Or didn't you know about it as you were busy talking about investing in gold?
Relax, Han2. I am talking about the poem posted by Bob, not about the Bandar Mahkota case. For that case, I am in full sympathy with the Cheras residents and we at KJPP, are discussing about how we can support them. My son won't leave me in peace on the issue. :) Care to join us?

maurice lim
10-05-2008, 05:24 PM
Why is Pakatan Rakyat very qiuet on this issue?...and also why aren't they supporting Karpal Singh on the other issue..I am feeling very disappointed with PR's couldnt careless attitude.

Pakatan Rakyat is not supporting Karpal Singh on the 'other' issue because the other leaders are sensible and they see the big picture. The world is not a stage where Karpal Singh is the main lead. I think Karpal Singh talks too much. A wise man knows when to speak up and when to keep quiet. There is no point to win a battle and loses the war.

Joe Gomez
10-05-2008, 06:02 PM
But then... PY can still say...

Because many have depended on handouts that's why the government has come to such a stage!! :PAs you can see from the following quote from pywong's post he was talking about the song only.
If on the other hand you say that yvonnefoong, "can still say" then we can discuss lor. ;)
Relax, Han2. I am talking about the poem posted by Bob, not about the Bandar Mahkota case.
So py was not talking about "many have depended on handouts that's why the government has come to such a stage!!"
Cheers, yvonnefoong

Joe Gomez
10-05-2008, 06:22 PM
Pakatan Rakyat is not supporting Karpal Singh on the 'other' issue because the other leaders are sensible and they see the big picture. The world is not a stage where Karpal Singh is the main lead. I think Karpal Singh talks too much. A wise man knows when to speak up and when to keep quiet. There is no point to win a battle and loses the war.IMHO opinion this is out of topic ........... but since you brought this up .........
It is nuisances like Karpal and Kit that also contributed to winning the battle for PR through their utterances ........ they did retain their respective constituencies as I recall.
I am pretty certain Karpal and guys like Kit are mindful of the war ahead.

What big picture are you alluding to maurice lim ?
The other leaders are sensible enough not to confuse the issue by adding on to what has been adequately conveyed by Karpal ............ that's my equally unfounded but, in contrast, more plausible sounding theory.

To comprehend a wise man, when he does speak up, one needs wisdom to see the wisdom in the words spoken and in the act of such speaking up.

Karpal's action pale in comparison to what Mahathir did to the royalty when he lorded over this country.

Why is it that when any topic about the behaviour of royalty is brought up Malaysians shudder and profer advise that always has a colour of gutless homilies and the stench of pee-wet pants ?

isarahim
10-05-2008, 06:34 PM
Pakatan Rakyat is not supporting Karpal Singh on the 'other' issue because the other leaders are sensible and they see the big picture. The world is not a stage where Karpal Singh is the main lead. I think Karpal Singh talks too much. A wise man knows when to speak up and when to keep quiet. There is no point to win a battle and lose the war.
Yes! Well put. We should be confident there's some careful planning here by PR.

maurice lim
10-05-2008, 07:07 PM
Why is it that when any topic about the behaviour of royalty is brought up Malaysians shudder and profer advise that always has a colour of gutless homilies and the stench of pee-wet pants ?

On the contrary, the Royalty in question here are Sultan Azlan Shah and Raja Nazrin Shah, who are among the most respected and learned men in Malaysia. Sultan Azlan Shah has been a Federal Court Judge, Chief Justice of Malaya and Lord President. Raja Nazrin Shah has a bachelor degree from Oxford University, a masters from Harvard University and a PhD from Harvard University.

If there is any homily, it is definitely not gutless but with deep respect and acknowledgement that these are wise men and wise men look many years into the future.

Joe Gomez
10-05-2008, 07:28 PM
On the contrary, the Royalty in question here are Sultan Azlan Shah and Raja Nazrin Shah, who are among the most respected and learned men in Malaysia. Sultan Azlan Shah has been a Federal Court Judge, Chief Justice of Malaya and Lord President. Raja Nazrin Shah has a bachelor degree from Oxford University, a masters from Harvard University and a PhD from Harvard University.

If there is any homily, it is definitely not gutless but with deep respect and acknowledgement that these are wise men and wise men look many years into the future.Okay "homily" was below the belt. Apologies.
But royalty is not and will never be infallible .................. somewhere along the way, the line between Royalty and God seems to have blurred in the minds of Malaysians.

Are these 2 members of the royal family both infallible ?

It is rather tame to present their credentials here if they ( these credentials I mean ) are not as impressive as God's ............ only then should we be reasonably expected to accept that they are indeed infallible.
The constitution does not bestow upon royalty a mantle of infallbility
If you agree that they are not infallible, which I think you will acknowledge, who in the meantime ensures that their priviledge is not erroneously used to the detriment of the rakyat.

Who checks to see if in their earthly falliblility, they have erred ?
maurice lim, lets start another thread shall we ?
I will do the honours ....... in any case, if chang has his way, I am certain, the thread will be rather shortlived one.
But if we continue here in this fashion WE ( as forummers ) will be shortlived. :eek:

Joe Gomez
10-05-2008, 07:38 PM
All is not well (http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/82622) in the lion's den ..... :eek:

yvonnefoong
10-05-2008, 07:50 PM
....... in any case, if chang has his way, I am certain, the thread will be rather shortlived one.
But if we continue here in this fashion WE ( as forummers ) will be shortlived. :eek:

I certainly would love to read more discussions like this one. Even as a bystander, I learn a lot. Please keep it up! In another thread.

maurice lim
10-05-2008, 07:58 PM
As I have said before. Winning the war is more important than winning the battle. Karpal Singh is putting the MB of Perak in a difficult position and the latter was wise when he said "no comment".

maurice lim
10-05-2008, 08:16 PM
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

James 4:6

EricK
10-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Okay "homily" was below the belt. Apologies.
But royalty is not and will never be infallible .................. somewhere along the way, the line between Royalty and God seems to have blurred in the minds of Malaysians.

Are these 2 members of the royal family both infallible ?



i would say the same for KS :rolleyes:

isarahim
11-05-2008, 12:26 AM
somewhere along the way, the line between Royalty and God seems to have blurred in the minds of Malaysians.
To make things worse, the line between Royalty and UMNO politicians has also been blurred. They have been treated as another layer of royals for far too long....

Joe Gomez
11-05-2008, 12:35 AM
All comments related to Royalty and their role in the Perak situation kindly go to thread entitled Royalty - Infallible? (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=22862).