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bobkee
17-04-2008, 05:37 PM
Seems like its being mooted in Penang as a possible cost effective alternative mass transit system to an LRT or monorail system. Is it possible to propose it in Subang / USJ with the system being linked to the existing LRT and KTM lines?

Moaz .. your thoughts?

yvonnefoong
17-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Hopefully tram lines in Subang Jaya would help lessen cars on the road. Otherwise, these trams might get stuck in present traffic jams. It would be very funny and Lat might depict the irony of Subang Jaya trams in his cartoons. For one, I hope to ride trams to college, which is not near enough for me to walk, but not far enough to maximize the benefit of driving. So yes, I think trams may be feasible in Subang Jaya, for the younger generation. We have 1,2,3...7 or 8 higher educational institutions spread across Subang Jaya, USJ, and Bandar Sunway. Logically, at least a quarter of the population here consists of students who mostly travel within and around town. They sure need better ways to move from home to college and the many eatery centers. They would also like to use the public library or pasar malam.

The tram would also benefit old folks like my dad, whose cataracts has rendered him unable to drive. How nice it would be if my dad can hop onto the tram and go chit chat with my aunt in another part of subang jaya.

With trams, we would not need a McDonald outlet in every direction. We don't even need that many shops. Oh, those shops are giving me the headache, man.

AllUrban
18-04-2008, 11:42 AM
Seems like its being mooted in Penang as a possible cost effective alternative mass transit system to an LRT or monorail system. Is it possible to propose it in Subang / USJ with the system being linked to the existing LRT and KTM lines?

Moaz .. your thoughts?Go for it.

Tramlines are a real alternative today.

The largest trams have the same capacity as the current Kelana Jaya LRT (about 230 pax) and can even be coupled together as well.

Since we have very few traffic lights (in USJ and SJ) it is easy to have longer trams.

Trams dont need to be fully elevated (unlike the LRT).

Trams also cost a lot less. The same length of tramline would cost about 1/4-1/3 of the cost of LRT. That means that for the same amount of money as 1 km of LRT, we can build 3-4 km of tramlines.

And the best thing is that there are so many different companies (about 20) that offer trams...while there are only 3 companies worldwide that make monorails and about 5 that make small metro...and only one that makes the LIM technology used on the Kelana Jaya line.

That means that there are more options, lower costs, and better choices for the people.

I have a lot more info as well, but I am completely supporting trams and have spoken in support of this technology.

Oh, btw...KTM Komuter is finally proposing an "outer ring line (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/2216861/Article/index_html)."

I cant wait to analyze this proposal! :D

Cheers, m

Firefly
19-04-2008, 12:48 PM
Trams in Subang!!!...you will see disruptions due from the lorries bringing down the cables. then the traffic is not going to help. So no difference.

bobkee
19-04-2008, 01:27 PM
Yo Firefly,

Some of these concerns are also being discussed here :

http://anilnetto.com/2008/04/17/bring-back-the-trams/#comments

firefox
19-04-2008, 01:58 PM
I say bring back the mini buses but this time more organised and well trained and courteous drivers. This wont cost anything for the taxpayer.
Tramlines need space and overhead lines and our roads are already narrow and congested with traffic.
They is no room for halts too with the traffic weaving in and out, my 2 cents.

AllUrban
20-04-2008, 01:26 PM
I say bring back the mini buses but this time more organised and well trained and courteous drivers. This wont cost anything for the taxpayer.
Tramlines need space and overhead lines and our roads are already narrow and congested with traffic.
They is no room for halts too with the traffic weaving in and out, my 2 cents.I agree with the minibuses...import some of those little buses from Penang, operate them as the Local Shuttles...and expand the local shuttle service (like in HK) so the buses go into the neighbourhoods instead of sticking to the main roads.

Also, upgrade some of the taxi services...replace some of the current taxis on the road with "maxicabs" (like in HK) that might travel on a few roads or a short distance (e.g. KL-PJ, PJ-Subang)

As for the tramlines...there is space for them on our wide SJ and USJ roads. In KL they can simply close some of the narrower roads to traffic and make them tram only.

Traffic congestion exists largely because of traffic volume...so if we can move more of those short trips using tramlines, maxicab, minibus, and buses, then we will see reduced traffic congestion.

The ideas exist and they work elsewhere. They havent had the chance to work here because no one has bothered to try.

Cheers, m

praetor
20-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Greetings.

If we can bring the concept into reality, boy oh boy... I'd hop on one and go running around subang without the car. I can't wait for that day to come. On a practical note, we have to work hand in hand together with the relevant authorities and other parties as well. In the meantime, i'll be waiting with glee..

Ave!