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jayded
11-04-2008, 01:15 PM
I am just lost for words after finding out that the CCTV's installed could not record. why on earth put it there just for monitoring?? Truly ridiculous.

http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/mm/Friday/Frontpage/20080411094736/Article/index_html

isarahim
11-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Exactly like the Canny Ong case in upmarket Bangsar shopping complex....

....and neither did the Sogo ones...

The CCTVs are there for decoration only. And often they're just empty cases, no cameras in them....

....ironically the Hotel Melaka ones seemed to have worked.... ;)

racheljansz
11-04-2008, 01:23 PM
Got an SMS on this too.
Thought it was only a joke or rumor.
Well it goes to shows
Malaysia truly ridiculous!
Time for change of government!

bslee
11-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Got an SMS on this too.
Thought it was only a joke or rumor.
Well it goes to shows
Malaysia truly ridiculous!
Time for change of government!

Actually to blame is the management and local working culture. People take their jobs for granted and rarely pursue excellence or perfection. They can be qualified with rocket science PhD, but no job dedication or lackadaisical attitudes will all come to nought. People here hardly have eye for detail. When something screws up, we hear of finger pointing, scapegoats and devil hunts. When are we going to change..I honestly don't know. Buildings can have the latest or grandest gadgetry and electronics, but failure to maintain will come to nought in due course. The facilities manager in KLIA should have his head chopped! There's a common saying: Ta cakap, ta' bikin!...semua OK!
Lets not compare with Japan, Germany or Australia. We're far from it.

jayded
11-04-2008, 01:30 PM
i mean, look at this la....in such a place like this the CCTV's are no able to record??

I am really mad. :mad:

i was in australia 2 months back..my first visit and boy what a difference i saw in the way these guys handle security.

This got to be the most stupidest things i have ever heard..how can u even think of placing a non recordable cctv in the first place at a place like KLIA???

Gosh, this is absurd!

isarahim
11-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Let me put to you that the crony supplier in question was actually paid in full for a complete recordable CCTV system, and with a (un)healthy margin to go with it.

Not claiming that it's true, but let's just see if it turns out to be a correct assumption.

jayded
11-04-2008, 01:58 PM
wow, check this out for a response!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/4/10/nation/20080410155137&sec=nation

cskok8
11-04-2008, 02:06 PM
And they just won an award for the best airport within a certain capacity. With bad taxi service, touts, luggage break-ins and theft, and now a non-recording CCTV. Wonder what they would have won if all that were to be fixed? Best airport in the universe? :eek:

jasonbhlee
11-04-2008, 02:11 PM
There are quite a few traffic policeman with guns that normally give you a ticket if you park along the stretch just outside the arrival and depature hall. Where were they when the robbery took place?

jayded
11-04-2008, 02:12 PM
Webster's Dictionary, and several of the different Bible dictionaries describe the negative kind of pride as follows:

An unduly high opinion of oneself
Exaggerated self-esteem, conceit
Haughty behavior resulting from arrogance
An improper and excessive self-esteem known as conceit and arrogance
A sin of attitude and of the heart and spirit
A puffed up and inflated ego
Boasting and high-mindedness
A conceited sense of one's superiority
Highly exalted in attitude, opposite from the virtue of humility

The other key word that you will see is the word "haughty." Here is what Webster's and some of the other Bible dictionaries have to say about this negative quality:

Showing great pride on oneself and disdain
Contempt or scorn for others
Proud, arrogant, supercilious (disdain or contemptuous)
An arrogant spirit


this is why i remember 2 scriptures from the Bible that is so true:

"Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud." (Proverbs 16:18)

"Before destruction the heart of a man is haughty, and before honor is humility." (Proverbs 18:12)

bslee
11-04-2008, 02:16 PM
And they just won an award for the best airport within a certain capacity. With bad taxi service, touts, luggage break-ins and theft, and now a non-recording CCTV. Wonder what they would have won if all that were to be fixed? Best airport in the universe? :eek:

Isn't it typical?.. When an best award is won..they'd hold their heads so high as if they've conquered the world. But when something happens and its really bad, they'll goto denial mode and a devil hunt. They're almost never wrong!.
Yes!..all those 3 issues mentioned will really hurt the tourism industry. As long as we see those issues still exist..we're fooling every visitor "Semua OK!"
We ourselves can't tolerate those kind of nonsense.

fonzie
11-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Before, we go shooting aimlessly in all directions, could some kind soul give a diagram drawing where exactly the shooting occurs...? KLIA is a huge place you know.....

Cheers!
FonZie

Shaneburger
11-04-2008, 02:36 PM
There are quite a few traffic policeman with guns that normally give you a ticket if you park along the stretch just outside the arrival and depature hall. Where were they when the robbery took place?

if you are drawing these policemen's salaries, will you take a bullet?

Malaysia Boleh :D

USJ27Resident
11-04-2008, 02:39 PM
There are quite a few traffic policeman with guns that normally give you a ticket if you park along the stretch just outside the arrival and depature hall. Where were they when the robbery took place?

God only knows... :rolleyes:

ggtee
11-04-2008, 03:23 PM
for those of you who have been giving your opinions about the CCTV being not working, may I please add some Petrol to the Fire? :D KLIA has been recently awarded an international award!! So, I REALLY WONDER how KLIA got the award! :confused:

firefox
11-04-2008, 03:48 PM
On a another note i am shocked at the amount of cash the money changers were carrying, the robbers chose the right day to rob! Unbelievable.

geordie
11-04-2008, 05:11 PM
Since KIA is under the Selangor jurisdiction, this piece of news in the Star should be taken into account in the investigation process :

THE Selangor government is all set to probe the alleged signing of a RM120mil contract

Report can be read here : http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2008/4/10/central/20898843&sec=central .

Perhaps another matter to have a chat with Mr. Khir about ???

Rocky19
11-04-2008, 05:18 PM
a security area and the cctvs images are not recorded. what a sick incompetent management!!! plain stupid. HP6.

Now they will pay millions of RM to get recording done. Fast track approval.someone is going to make tons of money. Malaysia Boleh bawah BN!!!

DeeC
11-04-2008, 05:41 PM
a security area and the cctvs images are not recorded. what a sick incompetent management!!! plain stupid. HP6.

Now they will pay millions of RM to get recording done. Fast track approval.someone is going to make tons of money. Malaysia Boleh bawah BN!!!

Did KLIA won some sort of World Best Award???
What a JOKE!!!

wsl
11-04-2008, 06:44 PM
KLIA management deny responsibility because it was held outside the airport and in the public area. Then what about the bangladeshi guy manage to sneek in a knife?

isarahim
11-04-2008, 09:33 PM
THE Selangor government is all set to probe the alleged signing of a RM120mil contract between a private company and the previous state government to supply and provide maintenance of 414 units of closed circuit television cameras (CCTV) at public places in the various districts.
Yeah...this is what was stored somewhere in my memory but couldn't remember where earlier... ;-)....thanks for bringing it back!

...though it doesn't explicitly say anything about recording...

scorgio
11-04-2008, 10:03 PM
There are quite a few traffic policeman with guns that normally give you a ticket if you park along the stretch just outside the arrival and depature hall. Where were they when the robbery took place?
They aren't required to be there actually, if every car owner/driver willing to pay RM3 to enter car park or just park at somewhere further like the roads near Pan Pacific.

scorgio
11-04-2008, 10:05 PM
On a another note i am shocked at the amount of cash the money changers were carrying, the robbers chose the right day to rob! Unbelievable.

Clearly the robbers got insider info.

KelvC
11-04-2008, 10:59 PM
such lack of security, dread to think this incident has created a heads-up to would be "terroriser". since no recording, which means, anyone can come in and out of the world premier airport with impunity.

praetor
11-04-2008, 11:09 PM
Greetings.

Have Heathrow airport had an incident where someone can come in and shoot with intention to rob and get away with it? I don't think so. How about any other airports? I don't think so. We are not even talking about a hijacking incident here. Imagine if someone landed a hijacked aircraft in KLIA and we have to rescue the passengers. We'll probably need to call in help from the Singaporeans and so on. Why am i saying this? Is the KLIA security that bad? No it's not that bad if we compare ourselves to say Myanmar. What is the point of having so many cameras if you don't record the events? To peep towards the direction of the toilet? Wake up and shake the cobwebs of your sleepy head. This is not the 20th century. This is the age where you must keep ahead of the pack or risk being displaced... for good.

Ave!

logicman
12-04-2008, 12:06 AM
CCTV's do not record!!! I'm tired to comment.

What happen if the incident turn out to be a hijack case?

No fault of the police. Its all MAB security to be blame. Sack Basir and his team.

Maybe, LHB should also oversee the airports as well...KW, do u concur?

Raikonen
12-04-2008, 08:52 AM
Malaysia boleh culture.....all form but no substance...hope this wun happen with all the CCTVs installed in Subang. On another note, the fellas monitoring the CCTVs wont get screen-fatigue ah?

firefox
12-04-2008, 12:09 PM
I say, ppl who carry so much of money are responsible for their own safety measures. Dont find scapegoats. Cctvs cannot prevent a crime if it has to happen.

pcyeoh
12-04-2008, 12:20 PM
Besides the money changers and the money lenders who carry with them millions of ringgit in transit, there is another group of money carriers that transit more money than them or the banks. They are the money launderers and they are the easiest target to rob but the trouble is either you don't know who they are or when you know who they are you better don't rob them. It you do, pray that the law gets you first before they do. At least the law have to prove your involvement and you have the previlege to engage the best lawyers in town. For them, you have to prove your innocence and 100% of the time, you don't have the luxury of time as they shoot you first then they listen to what you have to say!! That is why we don't get to read this sort of roberry in the papers.

sinleong
12-04-2008, 12:22 PM
i have a personal experience in this one... last year my friend left his laptop on a trolley in front of gate number 5 of the arrival hall. naturally it went missing. when we went back to look for it, the KLIA security said the CCTV's in that area were not turned on. because of some connections i have, i got very good cooperation from the police. they even took me to see the KLIA security but none of us, including the police were allowed to view the CCTV recordings. the police had to seek permission from the KLIA security for that and that was turned down. i have this suspicion that none of the CCTVs were turned on.

feleaz
12-04-2008, 11:07 PM
There are quite a few traffic policeman with guns that normally give you a ticket if you park along the stretch just outside the arrival and depature hall. Where were they when the robbery took place?

Haiya Jason, of course they had to run and hidelah

VeeJay
12-04-2008, 11:46 PM
Over teh-tarik I have been debating the CCTV issues with some of my friends....(past one year...that is)...

Plain simply, Malaysia is not ready to go with CCTV, way.

Why?....ask Genting they would know! :-)

To install...its realize easy...but to manage...you need tons of $$$$$
including hardware, software, people (really many), backups, network, storage, etc in order to have efficient system.

UK has one of the efficient smart system build in to recognize and analyze the live happenings, hence triggers the right party on alert. Thus reducing manpower...but it cost tons of money.

As I Msia, are more interested to give projects away to cronies and then give publicity that they are interested in reducing crimes....there is no proper planning and follow thru to the system implementation.
:mad: