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555
06-04-2008, 12:06 PM
taken from The Star (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/4/6/nation/20868274&sec=nation)

they choose to pollute the country than giving the oil money back to people

hezron
06-04-2008, 01:47 PM
please refer to this page for defination of RON:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

high RON doesn't means more environmental friendly...
but it provide better compress-able (more stable under engine compression)...
the high RON rated petrol normally don't need to have lead, which is a heavy metal component that add in to the petrol to increase the stability under compression...

I would say this is a good move cause the RON92 may still have some lead additive...
but hope that gov will not remove RON97 from the list, if they want to save subsidiary, just reduce the percentage...
(well, the petrol price increase is expected before the election right...??)
then consumer have a choice for RON95, 97 or 99...
like the current RON92, 97 and V-Power in Shell term...

555
06-04-2008, 03:20 PM
too long, lazy to read.

RON92, RON95 is less "engine friendly" , if not less " environmental friendly" right ?

cutebanana
06-04-2008, 03:40 PM
The result of all this is that people will chose the lower quality fuel if their cars can take it. i forsee even some luxury suv will use the lower quality petrol, that is if they're not using diesel...

palmdoc
07-04-2008, 06:46 AM
Errr can we pump 50% Ron99 and 50% Ron95 and theoretically get back Ron97 fuel in our car tanks? ;)

hezron
07-04-2008, 07:27 AM
Errr can we pump 50% Ron99 and 50% Ron95 and theoretically get back Ron97 fuel in our car tanks? ;)


yes, you are right...
theoretically should be that way...

some comment from Paul Tan on the petrol RON and Car engine spec we have...
Government proposes subsidised RON95 and unsubsidised RON99 (http://paultan.org/archives/2008/04/07/government-proposes-subsidised-ron95-and-unsubsidised-ron99/)

besitai2007
07-04-2008, 07:28 AM
Instead of this switch why can't they use the millions of ringgit earned by Petronas from the recent oil price hikes to offset price increases? The government is not telling us what they are using the Petronas ringgits for.

bobkee
07-04-2008, 07:31 AM
Instead of this switch why can't they use the millions of ringgit earned by Petronas from the recent oil price hikes to offset price increases? The government is not telling us what they are using the Petronas ringgits for.I think you answered your own question.

tsd
07-04-2008, 08:03 AM
I think you answered your own question.

if the gov is sincere, they must open up... show the public how they spend the petronas money. Global oil increase, petronas should be making even more profits... the % of profits used for subsidy should even be smaller compared to before.

racheljansz
07-04-2008, 08:18 AM
What subsided!
We are already paying up front in terms of taxes! :mad:

AllUrban
07-04-2008, 02:22 PM
as I mentioned in another thread, Ive only ever see octane of 94 and 95 in Canada...so either Malaysia has really clean burning petrol (which I doubt) or something is not clear.


Cheers, m

Sentinel
07-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Luxury and more powerful vehicles can use the RON99 fuel which should be subsidised as little as possible.

The ordinary folks use RON95, which is heavily subsidised, and this forms the big chunk of the fuel usage.

The savings from the subsidies for RON99 will then be channeled to subsidize rice (which is facing price hike / shortage), cooking oil, wheat flour, bread etc.

Workable....

palmdoc
07-04-2008, 02:35 PM
As Paul Tan alludes in his article, will our Ron 95 really be Ron 95?

gary yap
07-04-2008, 02:44 PM
I'm using V-Power, what RON is that? I don't seem to find any info on Shell website.