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SS19flyover
03-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Received this email from a friend. Just to share it here with everyone.

Before you order any fish in the restaurant...it is better to ask first.

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Last week, I brought my guests to Genting Highlands. After a day 'above the clouds', we decided to have dinner at the
Gohtong Jaya area on the way down.

We ordered some dishes and decided to have a steamed fish as well. So the captain recommended 'sultan fish'.
The steamed fish came. HALF, and plain steamed. Good & fine.

But when the bill came, it came to over $500 !! We were shocked !! We were told the fish was 1.4kg ( & please bear in mind, its ONLY HALF A FISH ) at RM 320 per kg! RM 420!! This was daylight robbery. We were not informed by the Captain that a kg of the Sultan fish would cost us RM 320 and there was also no signs of such pricing anywhere in the restaurant.

When we checked with the cashier, she told us, its correct !!

Of cos, it was our mistake for not asking the price first.

Anyway, on the way back to KL, we stopped at Unique Seafood,PJ, where one can choose a live fish. The most expensive Soon Hock swimming in the tank is RM135 per kilo. Asked them about the Sultan fish, it is going for RM100 a kilo.

Will be sending this letter to the newspapers, Tourism board, etc etc; and friends, pls pass on to all on yr email list.

gary yap
03-04-2008, 05:36 PM
I received this also, it's from a Susan Saw. Except the fish, the rest are ok. I'm under the impression everything in GH is expensive, not worth it.

tsd
03-04-2008, 05:37 PM
I received this also, it's from a Susan Saw. Except the fish, the rest are ok. I'm under the impression everything in GH is expensive, not worth it.
never ask the restaurant to recomend any food, they will always recomend something very expensive.

Jokee
03-04-2008, 05:39 PM
I thought can complain to the ministry on overcharging and no price display?

gary yap
03-04-2008, 05:40 PM
What is a Sultan Fish? Do we need to greet "Ampun Tuanku" before eating it? What is so special?

gary yap
03-04-2008, 05:44 PM
I thought can complain to the ministry on overcharging and no price display?

Maybe they have a pricelist but put RM seasonal.

racheljansz
03-04-2008, 05:53 PM
What is a Sultan Fish? Do we need to greet "Ampun Tuanku" before eating it? What is so special?Here is a picture of the fish.
Please follow the link and see what this review says
http://jewellefood.blog.com/1960561/
Ya, what so special about this fish?

tsd
03-04-2008, 06:16 PM
Here is a picture of the fish.
Please follow the link and see what this review says
http://jewellefood.blog.com/1960561/
Ya, what so special about this fish?

aiyoo... that one is called a sultan fish ah... I can almost see the pasar malam people selling it every weekends. Next time I ask them the price... I doubt it is that expensive by the way it is sold at pasar malam.

nyem
03-04-2008, 08:53 PM
Looks like ikan terubuk to me. The one being sold at pasar malam are mostly the salted version (around RM10-RM15 per piece). Fresh ones are hard to get as they're mostly brought from Sarawak or Thailand. Easily found at Pasar Satok in Kuching.

The name Sultan Fish could have been used as ikan terubuk masak asam pedas is the favorite dish of our previous Sultan Selangor/Agong.

tbearer
03-04-2008, 10:49 PM
according to my Dad, who is very good with fishes, pricing, taste, freshness, etc...Sultan fish should be around rm170 per kg.

so the goh tong jaya restaurant, very very $$$.

Dad also said there is a cheap version, ie a Sultan fish look alike. i am thinking the cheap version is the one that everyone sees in pasar malam. so most of the time, the fish monger tries to pass off the cheap version as sultan fish and charge exorbitant.

racheljansz
04-04-2008, 06:49 AM
Sultan fish should be around rm170 per kg.Why so expensive?
What is so special?

Jey
04-04-2008, 08:12 AM
Oh my Royal Highness!!! :eek:
rm 170 per kg??
No wonder its named Sultan fish..... :D

pcyeoh
04-04-2008, 08:28 AM
So in line with that the beggar chicken should be selling at 20 sen per kilo then.

firefox
04-04-2008, 09:07 AM
The mistake here is not asking for the price of a kilo..i make a point especially for seafood to enquire the price..if you want to pretend to be a rich duke and its lowering your diginty to ask for the price, then you pay the penalty, dont complain.

Btw i recieve about 10 emails on this issue!!

GreyShadow
04-04-2008, 09:11 AM
wah~ :eek:
Sultan fish is sooo bloody expensive here ar??
must ask me dad to courier a few over from Sarawak to sell it here. :D

Is it also known as ikan terubuk ar? Sarawak there also got a lot :D

Jey
04-04-2008, 09:20 AM
If the price is only enquired after gulping down the fish, cant blame the seller.
If you noticed, even the KFC price is "elevated" accordingly in Genting. So we cannot expect the others to not follow the same lead. After all the supply is limited up there, so its a seller's market.

Yang Ada Banyak makan ikan lato Jey. :D
(sorry tupai, I plagiarized your tagline here)

tbearer
04-04-2008, 09:29 AM
guess the pricing of seafood, like many other commodities in the world, is according to supply and demand and scarcity.

perhaps Sultan fish cant be obtained locally? need to bring it in from else where?

as for me...i just enjoy my ikan patin, bawal and cod fish. no need any other fancy, expensive fishes.

scorgio
04-04-2008, 09:39 AM
C'mon.
Even b4 the existence of Gohtong Jaya, the restaurants at the halfway point (to Genting) are FAMOUS for chopping tourist's throat.
Obviously, after Gohtong Jaya was developed, they all moved there.

From time to time, news like this still being reported on newspaper.

umadavid
04-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Yeah, in Genting Highlands restaurants food pricing is always on the higher side and that is why people usually go down a bit to Gohtong Jaya where the pricing is lower. So it is not expected that fish would burn a hole in your pocket there.

A very expensive lesson indeed...

We can all learn from this, thanks for posting it up

besitai2007
04-04-2008, 09:42 AM
I think the main lesson to be learned here is to ask the price first before having the meal. Of course, by doing that in front of guests we are seen as kedukut or tak ada duit. The restaurant people know that most people are too kiasu or embarassed to ask and will charge you exorbitantly. They probably know that you are visitors and will not be going to patronise them again. Me, I eat simple meals - bawah pokok also can. How much can they charge me then? Of course you run the risk of ceret beret later if the food is not hygienically clean. Most posh restaurants are not that clean also. Have you ever visited any of the kitchens and witness how they prepare the ingredients? ;)

chewie
04-04-2008, 09:45 AM
i ate sultan fish before...if i am not mistaken is about rm 80 or 90 per kilo that also ate at lukut, port dickson... is a sea fish.... the taste is very nice....:)
and you are eating at Genting. they must have added the transportation charges on you :P

as some had say, ask the price before you eat, is not the restaurant fault, is we the consumer fault...we have to ask the price first...nothing to be a shame off...

my 2 cents lorr

Jey
04-04-2008, 10:01 AM
I think its more to do with exclusivity than scarcity If you noticed, the prices of snacks and junkfood or even the mineral water sold in cinemas or infront of cineplexes are also abit exorbitant if you compared. The reasoning is, you will still buy it there instead of walking down to another place due to convenience. Or if you travelled on KTM, you no longer can buy the nasi lemaks and currypuffs from foot peddlars that board on trains to sell them as they are not allowed to come on board anymore. Instead they have a on board food supplier who supplies bad tasting food and drinks at exorbitant "cut throat prices" A simple fried mee hoon in styrofoam packet costing about rm 5 and a 3-in1 nescafe drink in a styrofoam cup costing rm 2.50 each when I took a train from KL to Penang sometime in 2003. Man! What a bad experience. By elimintaing the foot peddlars who sell good tasting, freshly cooked food at cheap prices, they create exclusivity and hike up the prices.

Same case up there in Genting or halfway there. Since its exclusive by being away from the open free market system of the lowlands, so are the prices. Those who dont mind the premium will pay for it. Those who mind, they have the choice to come back to the lowlands to look for cheaper alternatives. So when the distance, the hassle and the time taken into account, most will opt to pay the premium.

Chia Hak Soon
04-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Forumners, the 'Sultan " fish is actually a fresh water fish found in malaysian rivers especially in Pahang, Rompin and Perak. Originally it was call 'Jerawat" . The Sultan name comes into popularity due to the Sultan of Pahang who loves this fish. This fish is abundance in Kuala Lipis, Raub and Temeroh. Those days ( 70 and 80 s ) it was served in Karak , whereby the restraunt will be on the look out for what type of cars you drive and the price charged according to the status. It is a very bony fish and the bigger the better as the bones are less . This is not the ikan terobuk from Sarawak. The price today for reared ones is from 100-120 per kg. Wild ones are up to the restraunt to charge. The terubok from sarawak takes better but the bones are plenty. Malays loves to barbeque it marinate with curry powder. Chinese will steam it and eat with black vinegar. Teochew will stewed in it for 12 hours with assam and black sauce until the bones melts in your mouth, like eating sardines.

However, eating in Gotong Jaya is expensive..The same will go with any other fish like the Patin,and other river fishes. They will tell you that it is wild caught from the river , when it is reared. To tell the dfference from reared and wild, the wild ones looks lean , especially the stomach side., and the head of the fish is sharper not plumb like the one posted by a forumner.

Ditto
04-04-2008, 01:16 PM
wah~ :eek:
Sultan fish is sooo bloody expensive here ar??
must ask me dad to courier a few over from Sarawak to sell it here. :D

Is it also known as ikan terubuk ar? Sarawak there also got a lot :D

That's right, Sultan fish is just a mediocre fish in sarawak. too much bones. The expensive one in sarawak should be those called `Tempurah' or `kapit Fish', can really cost a few hundred a piece. Very hard to find as most are reserved by those timber tycoons b4 the fish reach the market

Jey
04-04-2008, 01:25 PM
This makes me want to go into fish rearing commercially... anyone wants to partner up? :cool: :D

bslee
04-04-2008, 01:34 PM
Forumners, the 'Sultan " fish is actually a fresh water fish found in malaysian rivers especially in Pahang, Rompin and Perak. Originally it was call 'Jerawat".

It should be spelled "Ikan JELAWAT" Jerawat can likely refer to "facial pimples?'
Anyway, here's a link to most commonly found local freshwater fish and its names.

http://www.ppk.kpm.my/ikan/ikan1.htm

robertec
04-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Just goes to show that you need to be wise about these sort of things.

There is quite a lot of difference between the price of a fish from a pond and a "so called" one from the River.

Make sure you are familiar with the restaurant when you place orders for exotic fishes and food.

Most times when I come across a "Captain" who starts recommending too many expensive dishes or even recommend too much food, I will tell the guy off, even when I have guests.

Some of the older "Captains" from the more established restaurants are like that, they just want to push up the daily sale.

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howsen
04-04-2008, 03:48 PM
I receive the email too, and now I see the thread here.

haha, the power of internet to spread a news really fast and efficient!

firefox
04-04-2008, 03:53 PM
A very expensive lesson learnt dont try to impress your guests or family unless money is no criteria.

bslee
04-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Just goes to show that you need to be wise about these sort of things.


Not only food items but just about anything else, consumer electronics, gadgets, accessories, just about anything except controlled items. We all know prices of things can vary within just about every few meters on the same floor.
BTW, I've realized Baker's Cottage, Carrefour have raised "quietly" raised prices in their confectionaries. Usual price 1.10, now 1.30 at BC, 5.90 to 6.10 at Care4. Oh well..just don't expect the BN led gahmen to do anything much. They just WON'T!. :cool:

CS Chua
05-04-2008, 11:34 AM
I went to that restaurant some years back and had asked the price then but it was RM80 per kilo so we did not order it. Even at RM80 it is too pricey for us. That was about 10 years ago.

I do not agree with some of the forumers who said it is our fault for not asking. I think there is something wrong with this mentality which is exactly what the restaurant would say. The restaurant should take responsibility for not TELLING customers the price if it is not listed, and not the other way round. I will refuse to pay and let him take me to court.

Kittycat
05-04-2008, 01:24 PM
I'm not a really big fan of freshwater fish, but some yrs back, for the sake of entertaining friends (who unfortunately for me .. looooves freshwater fish), went to this restaurant in KK. As expected, the pricing was only displayed as seasonal. There were many patrons but without hesitating, my friend asked the captain... how much ah? His reason is simple - he would rather be seen as 'kira harga'/stingy or whatever as long as the price is reasonable. No need to be 'malu' being seen asking about price, cannot pay lagi malu leh! BTW, we end up paying a few hundred bucks for a very satisfying meal. I think the restaurant captain should always 'gently' remind the customers of the price range esp if it's on the pricey side but then again some customers (braggarts) may feel slighted, they may just answer - no need to tell me the price, you think I tak boleh pay kah. Wah ...:eek:

ahfatt78
08-04-2008, 06:29 PM
http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2008-04-09&sec=malaysia&art=0409mb90.txt

This case appeared in Chinapress now. Sorry, in chinese.

patrick
08-04-2008, 06:43 PM
I am not really surprised at this case. I am quite a regular to Gotong Jaya as I retreat to Awana quite often. My general advice is IF you see the Menu of restaurants without prices.....be cautious.

If you allow me to share here, these few are my favourite and regular restaurants.

1. Quilin Rest. Closed on alternate Wed. A few shops away is Pine Forest which belongs to the same owner. This second shop serves mainly dessert type of food.

2. My favourite is Ze Yuan Rest. No. 33. The boss is Ah Choy and the wife Ah Theng. Prices very reasonable. Cheaper for me to dine there then in KL. Mention my name to ensure better service if you like. Very nice and honest couple. They bring up their own seafood from Klang coast.

Jey
08-04-2008, 11:54 PM
It should be spelled "Ikan JELAWAT" Jerawat can likely refer to "facial pimples?'
Anyway, here's a link to most commonly found local freshwater fish and its names.

http://www.ppk.kpm.my/ikan/ikan1.htm

I just saw ikan jelawat for sale at Uda Ocean nearby Petaling Street priced at Rm 1.80 per 100g, which means its RM 18.00 per kg only. Wonder if its the real jelawat or not but the name was written as "JELAWAT" though :confused: