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pucman
03-04-2008, 03:04 PM
Anybody know of a good lasik center in KL/PJ area ?

I've heard of vista lasik. Anybody tried before and any comments ?

coleslaw
03-04-2008, 03:21 PM
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=14025&page=1&pp=15

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=7760

check this out..

wAISEKMAo
03-04-2008, 03:27 PM
Anybody know of a good lasik center in KL/PJ area ?

I've heard of vista lasik. Anybody tried before and any comments ?

Just done mine 2 weeks ago. Cost me about Rm7200.00

So far so good, no pain no complaint.

what do you want to know?

jialat
03-04-2008, 04:59 PM
u can try optimax in ttdi, not sure their sunway branch is open or not. look for those real optometrist to check ur eyes in there, there are too many optician pretending as optometrist checking eyes in all these lasik centers, esp in vista.

pucman
03-04-2008, 05:06 PM
Just done mine 2 weeks ago. Cost me about Rm7200.00

So far so good, no pain no complaint.

what do you want to know?

Where did you have it ? Any further operation to correct errors ?

wAISEKMAo
03-04-2008, 06:50 PM
Where did you have it ? Any further operation to correct errors ?

All information are my own personal opinion, ok?

I had the operations in vista.

Yes, one of you guys/gals mention the person who check your eyes initially are pretenders of optometrist. This apply both to optimax and vista.

I went to both center to check my eyes.

Apparently vista have better technologies in terms of checking eyes and operations.

In vista they got a technology to check the halo's, glares and another term(for lights) I forget. When I ask the optimax if they check this stuff, they did not check halo's and glares.

And because of technology, I have my surgery done in vista.

For those who are loaded, I recommend you to go for Vista NASA. The only different between the NASA and the rest of the operations in vista and others(optimax included) is Halo's, glares and another term(i forgot).

The operations are fairly simple. It only takes 20 minutes. First machine to cut off a slab and then you go to another machine to fix your visions.

For me, I can say I am painless (no feeling that is).

My eyesight before operations are 3.75 and after 0.25 but because I did not go for NASA, I still got some halos.

MOST IMPORTANT THING : The success of operation depends on your cooperations on not moving your eyes too much.

If you ask me if there's a danger in it? I could not answer you.

And I even refuse to participate in the first operation after some problems with the agreement. Apparently vista have ask me to write normal lasik where in the catalog it is written custom lasik. If you understand the feeling where you are able to go for operations and then you are told to write agreement that you operation is this and that (different from what stated ),
then you hesitate a bit as in my case.

However, after 2 weeks think and re-think I decide to go for it, and you know what..2 days before my operations The star comes out with US FDA and US congress is reviewing the lasik surgery in the US. Anyway, I went for the operation and now I am GLASSLESS.

I don't need further operation to correct errors and will be no using any liquids in 2 days. 2 weeks after operation.

jialat
03-04-2008, 10:40 PM
i went to both centers too for eye check about 1 year ago but i haven't decide where to get my eyes done, besides my power has not stabilized yet.

the technology to check the halo's & glares was not available when i had my eyes checked last time. :D

tohca
04-04-2008, 01:07 AM
The Vista Nasa thingy is a big con as far as I am concerned. They mentioned that I have "halo" and that with Nasa (at that time it's RM5000 per eye, no discount) there will be no halo but with the others there will be halo. I can certainly say that it's not true. I did only one eye and it's about 6 months since.

Though I am quite happy with the results, I should have just taken the normal lasix. My other eye (the one that I chose not to undergo the lasix) does not have halo when I put on my glasses. But the eye that underwent the op, does have halo.

So my advise is, just chose the cheaper option. Don't get con like me.

kudat
04-04-2008, 08:08 AM
i did both eyes at Optimax TTDI on 24 May 2005.

conditions of eyes before operation were:
Right : -9.95
Left : -7.75

Post checking when i did my annual physical two weeks ago, i was able to read the chart with 6/6 for both eyes.

so far, no issues at all.

besitai2007
04-04-2008, 09:48 AM
Are there enough studies or research done to show that lasik surgery is safe? How many cases are there where visions became worse? I don't mind wearing glasses but personally I am not too comfortable about having something done to my eyes that way. :confused:

wAISEKMAo
04-04-2008, 10:17 AM
The Vista Nasa thingy is a big con as far as I am concerned. They mentioned that I have "halo" and that with Nasa (at that time it's RM5000 per eye, no discount) there will be no halo but with the others there will be halo. I can certainly say that it's not true. I did only one eye and it's about 6 months since.

Though I am quite happy with the results, I should have just taken the normal lasix. My other eye (the one that I chose not to undergo the lasix) does not have halo when I put on my glasses. But the eye that underwent the op, does have halo.

So my advise is, just chose the cheaper option. Don't get con like me.

You mean you do not have halo before NASA operation and after operation you got HALO?

Other that Halo and glares, do you think you eye better than in NASA that custom lasik in vista? what is your power now?

The thing about vista and pretty much about all this center is that they do not reveal most of the things to you.

aRwEn
04-04-2008, 10:47 AM
hi, jus wonderin, what's d difference between lasik n intralace? one requires actual surgery n d other no cuttin involved, just d use of laser?

anybody care to share their personal experiences?

JoeJaffar
04-04-2008, 12:08 PM
a colleague 'lasik-ed' at HUKM, haven't heard anything adverse yet.

tohca
04-04-2008, 01:08 PM
You mean you do not have halo before NASA operation and after operation you got HALO?

Other that Halo and glares, do you think you eye better than in NASA that custom lasik in vista? what is your power now?

The thing about vista and pretty much about all this center is that they do not reveal most of the things to you.
Yes, I now have the 'halo' effect. I did not check if I had it before, I should have checked then. According to their claim, only their NASA op can correct it. Even prescribtion glasses can't. Again, I took their word for it, but regretting that I did not verify it earlier. My prescription glass does correct the halo and when I put on the glass, there is no halo for my untreated eye. Without the glass, the untreated eye of course sees very blurry.

I am not able to say if my eye is better or not with NASA or other op as I only did it with NASA on one eye. The other eye is left untreated. But their claim to remove 'halo' is a big con.
It feels great not to have to wear glasses. I think my long distance vision is pretty. I don't have the specifications though. However, now I cannot read with the corrected eye, without glasses. I read with my other eye which is not treated. In other words I have mono vision. Both near sight and long sight, I now look through either one the other eye. It happens subconsciously.

It's a compromise, but the freedom from depending on glasses is worth it for me. As I do read a fair bit, the eyes tend to get tired more easily. Am now contemplating getting reading glasses for reading so as to ease the eyes.

What you said about these centres not revealing important things to you is true. Like the case of my corrected eye not being able to read anymore. I was shocked initially, but have now got adjusted to it.

Overall I'd still go for the lasix (though not the NASA unless there is little or no price difference), as the freedom it allows me to see without the aid of glasses is wonderful.

pucman
04-04-2008, 06:15 PM
. Like the case of my corrected eye not being able to read anymore. .

Why can't you read books after being lasik ? Can see far but not near ?

tohca
04-04-2008, 06:34 PM
Why can't you read books after being lasik ? Can see far but not near ?
That's correct.

joey180
04-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Is there lasik treatment for "lo fa" (long sighted due to aging)? I have read about the "reading vision" treatment from vista, but this is for one eye only and one will lose the "depth judgement". Any "2 eyes" treatment to cure "lo fa"?

tohca
04-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Is there lasik treatment for "lo fa" (long sighted due to aging)? I have read about the "reading vision" treatment from vista, but this is for one eye only and one will lose the "depth judgement". Any "2 eyes" treatment to cure "lo fa"?
Despite focusing with just one eye, the other eye does function, thus you will still have the "depth judgement". Of course it takes a bit to get used to. And sure it's not as nice as if you have stereo vision.

kudat
04-04-2008, 08:09 PM
Is there lasik treatment for "lo fa" (long sighted due to aging)? I have read about the "reading vision" treatment from vista, but this is for one eye only and one will lose the "depth judgement". Any "2 eyes" treatment to cure "lo fa"?

i understand Optimax can treat 'loh fa'. One of my staff did it... and she is passed 50...can read without glasses now.

pucman
07-04-2008, 01:41 AM
That's correct.

That's strange because when I had my lasik many years ago , I could read books with both my corrected eyes.

But my vision has deteriorated after so many years to around 200 degrees on one side. Thinking of having it lasik again.

I am thinking of finding a better surgeon than the previous one I had which require me to do double operation a few DAYS after the first operation because the first operation didn't correct the power accurately. :mad:
(They blamed my eyes instead of their skills when my power didn't go to zero)

So I had two operations on my eyes already. Now thinking of a third.

:(

PS. I am over 30 so my power had stabilised long ago.