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termibait
24-07-2007, 09:51 PM
Anyone could give some advice!

Scenario

Got a good pay,overall income RM5k a month, as a manager in a MNC in Klang Valley. But doesn't like the job. Can't wait to resign.

Then, got an offer as Branch Manager in Penang,overall income RM5k.

Another offer as Sales Exec,with profit sharing of 20%net profit in klang valley but overall income reduced by 50% from current income.

Another offer in Singapore. IF can perform, overall income is RM9k.

Factors to consider

1 Location
2 Culture
3 New responsibility - First time as Branch MAnager
4 Future - want to be own boss! in Klang valley
5 Family and Girlfriend - in Klang Valley
6 Monthly expenses - about 4k to 4.5k.
7 No savings
8 Lodging

La Vida Loca
25-07-2007, 12:01 AM
can't give you advice but can offer personal view on your choices. If i was in the same situation, i would

1. Go to singapore
2. Go to penang
3. Stay in the same job
4. Change to sales exec.

Other than option 1, the others are not so enticing. Maybe
5. Keep on looking until you find one u like.

birdy
25-07-2007, 05:44 AM
Since your monthly expenses is already 4k to 4.5k..... downgrading yourself to be sales exec is definitely a no-no for you as you will soon attract debts over yourself unless you do some part time job. Never take into consideration of the profit sharing into consideration as this income is not guaranteed.

On the other hand, going away from Klang Valley would separate you and your girlfriend apart. Unless both of you are comfortable, otherwise both of you would be suffering. This on the other hand, will increase expenses too as you need to incur more telephone charges.

Though you seem to earn more in Singapore but don't forget that you will be spending Singapore dollar too... your salary in Singapore dollar would be around S$4,000 of which you need to spend your food, traveling and accommodation in Singapore dollar too! So, it may not be any better of for you too...(you have to do your own calculation).

I am sure there is ample opportunities in Klang Valley... hold on your emotion, look out for other opportunities. Alternatively, you may request for department transfer within your MNC ... since most MNC does that. :)

If you insist of going to Singapore after due consideration, then try to negotiate for free accomodation ... this will ease your burden too. Work there for 1 to 2 years and decide whether you would like to work permanently there... if the environment suit you, consider to arrange your girlfriend to come to Singapore to work too... unless you don't want her to come lar... :D

CS Chua
25-07-2007, 09:24 AM
I noted 2 things. Firstly you are in a management position. Secondly you are working in a MNC. The only drawback is your unhappiness with your job.

All the jobs listed by you are not superior to your current job. They are not promotion. A manager in a MNC can easily be above the branch manager job in most situations.

If I am you, I will try to address my unhappiness with my superior first or get a transfer. If it does not work, then I will start looking for a job in the Klang Valley. And I will look for a better job with a better pay. No point moving unless it is a better pay, right? After all, there is no certainty that you will be totally happy in your new job. So a better pay or title will help to sooth your emotion.

usjhomer
25-07-2007, 09:25 AM
Very practical advice - however, please bear several other factors in mind when considering Singapore

Pros - the exposure level is very high, and expectations will be the same. So if you are high achiever, then go for it. Singapore could be your springboard to another location if your bosses see your potential and capabilities.

Cons - the opposite for those who think Singapore is a passport to a relatively better life. Yes, there are good things there but also certain limitations if you want to have a balanced lifestyle with the income you earn there.

But all in all, it depends on what your long term plans are. If you are in your 20s then this is the best opportunity to move around on the company's expense. But if you are in your mid-30s you should be shaping your career options so that you have consistent growth in salary and roles by the time you reach 40. After that, travel considerations are weighed down by family committments etc.

CS Chua
25-07-2007, 09:33 AM
I should add quickly that you will need references from your colleagues and superiors so do not burn your bridges. Continue to make friends and strengthen relationships.

burntan
25-07-2007, 10:38 AM
If I were you then I will stay in the MNC, work out your problem with the job, save some money (spending close to 100% of your income is not a very good financial control) and finally start my own business when saving mature.

penangkia
25-07-2007, 11:02 AM
.......you forgot the crony part. ;)

Teeque
26-07-2007, 02:27 PM
SG is the best option for the good pay package and career prospects. not far frm KL and can still marry gf and bring her there. but what do u mean by 'IF can perform'???

ps. erm, if u waiving the SG job, pls pass it to me... ;)

iml109
26-07-2007, 06:54 PM
Personally I agree with CS Chua. Work out what is ur unhappiness re current job. If it's with ur supervisor, then sorry to say, the same goes to everywhere u go. There is no difference; in every office there is always the B*t*h, the Gossiper, The Goldfinger, The Boss's Pet.

If it's due to not happy with what ur doing (e.g. u want to be designing stuff but stuck behind the desk facing volumes of numbers, then it's another issue) try to achieve ur passion during ur spare time. (but i doubt this point is what makes u unhappy)

If ur earning 5k in Klang Valley, with family and gf here, I would rather stay back. Unless ur earning SGD9K in S'pore(if that RM9K is typo), then go ahead. But remember, it's always hard to fit in in foreign environment first few mths... depends on whether u can take it. Other than that, that RM9k in S'pore and RM5k in Klang Valley.. what's the difference?

Others? I won't even consider.

termibait
26-07-2007, 08:18 PM
Now additional Info:

1. No passion with Current job.No authority to make decision. In fact, the function is more or less a Sales executive. The different is handling Key Accounts.

2. The Position offered in Penang is what you are doing best! 5 years of experience in this field.

3. Does not seem to enrich your knowledge and skills. It is more like handling operation matter.

Now, what do you have in mind?


Anyone could give some advice!

Scenario

Got a good pay,overall income RM5k a month, as a manager in a MNC in Klang Valley. But doesn't like the job. Can't wait to resign.

Then, got an offer as Branch Manager in Penang,overall income RM5k.

Another offer as Sales Exec,with profit sharing of 20%net profit in klang valley but overall income reduced by 50% from current income.

Another offer in Singapore. IF can perform, overall income is RM9k.

Factors to consider

1 Location
2 Culture
3 New responsibility - First time as Branch MAnager
4 Future - want to be own boss! in Klang valley
5 Family and Girlfriend - in Klang Valley
6 Monthly expenses - about 4k to 4.5k.
7 No savings
8 Lodging

patwon
26-07-2007, 08:48 PM
i think u have to make your decision based on your thinking and wisdom,no point to get feedback ,u will get wiser and more mature later in life whether the decisions u made were right or wrong.Actually we always can change and choose our paths in life.

SunwayK
26-07-2007, 10:12 PM
Someone once said, it is impossible to have a bright future while still clinging to sorrows of the past. So, tell your superior which part of his anatomy he can shove the job and let all those negative energies flow right out of you

I kid. Don't do that if it's always about dollar and cents, or the privilege of working with a MNC. At times, it is about doing what you like, getting back to basics. You might need to take one step back, to move two steps forward.

Let me tell you a tale. There once was this guy, who earns an obsence package monthly, which some of us only earns in a year, given a luxury car, annual holidays, club membership and even a maid! He was at the peak of his career in a MNC and one day, he just walked out.

Unable to find enough time to spend with the people that matters to him, the pressure of the job causes his heath to deteriorate and his hairline receeding faster than normal. Realizing that this is not the kind of life he wants, he quits and went back to basics, accepting a position he was obviously overqualified, and taking a 60% paycut. (Damn, he still earns more than most of us.)

But it provides him the hours to do the things he treasure, retained the hair he might have lost - in short, a quality life from his perspective. What I am trying to say is- listen to your heart and only you and you alone will know what you seek.

birdy
26-07-2007, 11:17 PM
1. No passion with Current job.No authority to make decision. In fact, the function is more or less a Sales executive. The different is handling Key Accounts.
Now...have you ever give yourself a thought the reason why you as the manager, does not allow to make decision?

1. Could it be your convincing power not strong enough to convince your superior?

2. Could it be that your superior is someone who like to hold on to everything, reluctant to delegate?

3. Could it be because you are good in your work but lack of experience in making decision? (eg... you can't decide what is good for you. :) )

etc..etc...

On the other hand, one does not need to wait for your superior to tell you "Hello, termibait, can you decide on how to support this customer?" You have to be bold enough to decide on your own and dare to take the responsibility if things go wrong or if your superior ask you about the reason, you are able to convince him/her with a valid and strong reason and not something like "my sixsense tells me....".