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FreeThinker
16-07-2007, 03:59 PM
Hi guys,

Was at Subang Parade Last Sunday and some kind of chorus competition was going on. Having a glanced, I thought it was a inter-Malay schools competition because almost all (I would say 95%) of the participants are Malays or apears to be Malays. Did you guys noticed? But having checked on the board, it said Inter Primary & Secondary schools Chorus competition.

Weird, isn't it? And this we are talking about Inter-schools English Chorus competition. Very few non-Malays participants. I wonder why....? And we are talking about schools in Subang, PJ and Shah Alam area.

Maybe the non-Malays are not interested in these competition? How remote is that? Anyone can explain?

kwchang
16-07-2007, 05:05 PM
You must be referring to Choral Speaking - that is an entirely different thing altogether from "Chorus"! It has to do with reciting text or poems in a group. They have had that before in Subang Parade and it is amazing what the kids can do - it is a very good way of promoting the use of English.

Why were you surprised?
Perhaps the Vernacular (Chinese) schools do not have this program in their extra-curricular activities. Lack of interest or perhaps inadequacies with English teachers in Chinese schools?

Check this (http://falcon.jmu.edu/~ramseyil/choralpage.htm), this (dictionary) (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/choral+speaking) and a longer explanation (http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED001912&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=eric_accno&accno=ED001912)

PeterHng
16-07-2007, 05:13 PM
My daughter was involved. Her school's SJK (C) Lick Hung. I've no idea the area of coverage as Assunta PJ and shah alam schools beside SJ also involved..

FreeThinker
17-07-2007, 09:49 AM
You must be referring to Choral Speaking - that is an entirely different thing altogether from "Chorus"! It has to do with reciting text or poems in a group. They have had that before in Subang Parade and it is amazing what the kids can do - it is a very good way of promoting the use of English.

Why were you surprised?
Perhaps the Vernacular (Chinese) schools do not have this program in their extra-curricular activities. Lack of interest or perhaps inadequacies with English teachers in Chinese schools?


Yeah, I was refering to the 'Choral' competition. My apology, really, I thought I missed spelt it but could not find the right word. Thanks for the correction. You have to forgive me for I am the product of the National School.

Why am I surprised? Hmmm... let's see. First of all, it was both inter Primary & Secondary schools. I believe your comment was based on the assumption that it was only Primary schools. I can understand it if it is so. So what surprised me was the fact it was also a Secondary schools competition. But maybe I was at the time watching the primary's competition, I'm not sure because they look pretty grown up to me. So to borrow your words, maybe the non-Malay Secondary School students "Lack of interest". Hmm... this worries me, because if you are right, it means the teachers in the secondary schools do not encourage participants from non-Malays anymore.

Or perhaps most of the secondary schools in SJ & PJ lacks non-Malay students? I think that would be a very remote possibility, don't you think?

Raikonen
17-07-2007, 10:00 AM
Yeah, I was refering to the 'Choral' competition. My apology, really, I thought I missed spelt it but could not find the right word. Thanks for the correction. You have to forgive me for I am the product of the National School.

Why am I surprised? Hmmm... let's see. First of all, it was both inter Primary & Secondary schools. I believe your comment was based on the assumption that it was only Primary schools. I can understand it if it is so. So what surprised me was the fact it was also a Secondary schools competition. But maybe I was at the time watching the primary's competition, I'm not sure because they look pretty grown up to me. So to borrow your words, maybe the non-Malay Secondary School students "Lack of interest". Hmm... this worries me, because if you are right, it means the teachers in the secondary schools do not encourage participants from non-Malays anymore.

Or perhaps most of the secondary schools in SJ & PJ lacks non-Malay students? I think that would be a very remote possibility, don't you think?

What are you driving at? Perhaps you care to share further with your theory of such a phenomenon.

FreeThinker
17-07-2007, 10:10 AM
The fact that I do not see a "Malaysia" participation from Malaysian schools, I guess?

Perhaps some of you parents out there can tell me that I am wrong and that I have seen only part of it. This is one part of the 'perhaps' that I wish I hear from the parents though this thread.

Raikonen
17-07-2007, 10:20 AM
The fact that I do not see a "Malaysia" participation from Malaysian schools, I guess?

Perhaps some of you parents out there can tell me that I am wrong and that I have seen only part of it. This is one part of the 'perhaps' that I wish I hear from the parents though this thread.

I guessed that u mean by races composition of the participation?

It's fine with me whatever the composition as long as it is by merit. We would want the best to be the representatives, wouldnt we, as in all cases even in this instance. It doesnt have to have a muhibbah representation...we see it in so many aspects of social activities and sports, ie. basketball and FOOTBALL...and we get what we deserved in the end.

La Vida Loca
17-07-2007, 11:55 AM
The fact that I do not see a "Malaysia" participation from Malaysian schools, I guess?

Perhaps some of you parents out there can tell me that I am wrong and that I have seen only part of it. This is one part of the 'perhaps' that I wish I hear from the parents though this thread.

I find your thinking very backward. Not everything should be about reflecting the racial composition of Malaysia. I was formerly a choral speaking representative for SMK Subang Utama and participated in many inter-school competitions. Back then and still is, choral speaking is about having fun on stage. But these days, with the competitive education environment, can kids still afford to have fun, join competition etc. As a parent, can you ask yourself what sort of conditions you are imposing on your kids now. Everyday tuition, tuition, tuition. I know of several kids who can't join any cultural activities organised by a Buddhist association because they are forbidden by their parents to "digress' from activities other than their academic goals.

Maybe former Lick Hung graduates can comment on this as their focus is primarily on getting a string of 'A's and this sentiment has somewhat taken its roots to their secondary education.