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gnehkgnep
04-07-2007, 08:25 AM
Road users,
I am having a real concern here with regards to the endless traffic congestion along LDP from Sunway toll plaza into Puchong. To make matter worse, recently LDP operator placed multiple traffic cones to prevent road user from switching lanes especially from 5pm to 8pm daily......
My issue here is:

1. What is the main objective of placing the cones? If it is to ensure smooth traffic, I am rather annoy that the traffic is becoming much worst than previously :mad:
2. Prior to implementing this, did they study the hazard pose to motorist....on many occasion, some of the cones just falls into wrong place and cause massive jam as motorist try to avoid the cones lying in the middle of the road
3. Few minor road accidents happened due to this. I saw with my own eyes.....and this happened because people become agitated by the slow traffic and long jam......thus they tend to become more aggresive cutting into other lanes :(

I am just dumbfounded that who approve this smart move!!??....and I thought with the increase of 60% tolls price at LDP.....there will be much better plan to improve the traffic rather than just placing traffic cones.....
Pls don't tell me all the increase in tolls went to just coating the road with fresh tar...... :confused: .....

Pls comment for those using LDP daily along Puchong...thanks!!

kokomo
04-07-2007, 09:53 AM
I use LDP daily but yesterday was lucky for me to get off work at 7pm sharp and hit LDP road somehow, each time I pass till Sunway area towards the toll before I can turn left goes up the bridge and cut back to Sunway Medical there you can actually see the amount of cars queing just to pass the toll and the amount of cars :eek: after the toll. After the toll I don't understand what is the caused of the jam there, maybe there is a bottle neck but then I figure the jam should not be as bad as the day passes by.

Anyhow, for me every Tues is a traffic problem day. Either go home much much earlier or stay back in your office till 9pm and then go home sleep.

robertec
04-07-2007, 09:59 AM
I started using the LDP recently and my answers to your question are

1. that there are just too many cars for the roads to cope.

2. they built the U-Turn flyover reducing the size of the roads in the process. (by the way during peak hours the U-Turns are not that well used)

3. indiscipline jokers who drive.

I dread the day when they build the link from the Tesco area to USJ1 and bring a large part of that traffic into Subang Jaya/USJ.

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pucman
04-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Road users,
I am having a real concern here with regards to the endless traffic congestion along LDP from Sunway toll plaza into Puchong. To make matter worse, recently LDP operator placed multiple traffic cones to prevent road user from switching lanes especially from 5pm to 8pm daily......
My issue here is:

Puchong...thanks!!

With the amount of traffic passing through every day, they still need a toll rise ? :mad:

They should use the money to build another flyover to bypass all the residential area in sunway and either straight go to sunway or to motorola non-stop.

Anyway, the LDP is a very badly planned road, there are sections of narrow and wide road that causes jam.

ahfatt78
04-07-2007, 10:15 AM
The problem of the traffic jam after Sunway toll into Puchong is because of the design of the flyover itself. With multiple exits (Puchong Jaya, Bukit Jalil) and just after the sharp bend there are another exit to Puchong Jaya business area, lane changes is expected to slow down the traffic. Furthermore the traffic from Bukit Jalil and the U-turn underneath is extremely huge choking up the whole stretch. The Sunway Toll traffic jam not only makes ppl furious, it is actually causing the backlog at Kesas as well (I am using this to enter Puchong everyday after work).

The design of the flyovers in LDP Puchong is really ridiculous. The big 2 U-type flyovers at Pusat Bandar Puchong are being built in the middle of the exit to PBP. Most of the cars are entering PBP through this small exit which end up, slowing the traffic on the main stretch again. And the Mobil Station just beside this exit will only worsen the traffic condition.

I just hope next time if they wanna add flyover, they must bring their brain to work.

pepsi
04-07-2007, 10:34 AM
The problem of the traffic jam after Sunway toll into Puchong is because of the design of the flyover itself. With multiple exits (Puchong Jaya, Bukit Jalil) and just after the sharp bend there are another exit to Puchong Jaya business area, lane changes is expected to slow down the traffic. Furthermore the traffic from Bukit Jalil and the U-turn underneath is extremely huge choking up the whole stretch. The Sunway Toll traffic jam not only makes ppl furious, it is actually causing the backlog at Kesas as well (I am using this to enter Puchong everyday after work).

The design of the flyovers in LDP Puchong is really ridiculous. The big 2 U-type flyovers at Pusat Bandar Puchong are being built in the middle of the exit to PBP. Most of the cars are entering PBP through this small exit which end up, slowing the traffic on the main stretch again. And the Mobil Station just beside this exit will only worsen the traffic condition.

I just hope next time if they wanna add flyover, they must bring their brain to work.
Anybody can suggest to rectify the present problem ?
I believe the cone was used to reduce the jam by ensuring everyone stick to the lane, to reduce lane switching. They did not take into account that there are many cars coming in from sunway, old klang road and kinrara/bkt jalil.

I think that they should close the first entrance/exit to/from UOB/ HSBC/Alliance, because the bottle neck caused when the cars enter/exit there . Moreover it's just too short a distance for car coming from old klang road to pass the traffic light .Despradoes attempt to cross the lights even when it has changed red, because they are unable to cross when it is green.

Entry and entrance to be moved further down, allowing cars the opportunity to change to theit preferred lanes.
Just a suggestion. Anybody has a better idea ?

p/s

chewie
04-07-2007, 11:14 AM
I do commute LDP everyday and I do support the move by LDP to put the cones there.

Although is jam but its a moving jam. There are personal there to ensure that the cones is well placed. Even its fell off, the personal will go and put it back up again.


The main bottle neck is the cars that coming from Bkt Jalil and the car coming from the toll trying to cut into each other lane. That will cause accident.

To me, is nothing to do with the road design or what, but it falls to the toll plaza design. If the toll plaza is located straight and not slanting, it will not cause a heavy jam. People will know what lane to go into when approahing the toll. But if you are coming from Puchong, you have to make a slight curve turning to go into the toll plaza and that causes the jam. Once after the toll, the road is straight, then drivers would roughly know which lane to go into.

Same thing if you coming from Sunway. Before the toll is not that jam, but after the toll, from about 20 lanes road it became 4 lane road, for sure its jam.

i totally support the move by LDP to place the cone there.

just my 2 cents

firefox
04-07-2007, 12:55 PM
i blame the drivers our malaysian drivers, they are impatient lot dont follow queues, cut into you suddenly..they are uncouth and ill mannered thats all i can say...thats the reason for the bottleneck...and to save time why not get a touch n go might save you sometime.

chewie
04-07-2007, 01:16 PM
i blame the drivers our malaysian drivers, they are impatient lot dont follow queues, cut into you suddenly..they are uncouth and ill mannered thats all i can say...thats the reason for the bottleneck...and to save time why not get a touch n go might save you sometime.

yeah ... i agree with you on your first point...its all back to our own drivers attitude

but i dun agree with you fully on the second point. what if the person forgot to reload his touch and go. ?? hmm... or when upon reaching the tng lane, then only start looking for the card.. or the worst of all, when reach the lane, a note there written 'Rosak' ... and there is a lot of car behind you..

firefox
04-07-2007, 02:05 PM
but i dun agree with you fully on the second point. what if the person forgot to reload his touch and go. ?? hmm... or when upon reaching the tng lane, then only start looking for the card.. or the worst of all, when reach the lane, a note there written 'Rosak' ... and there is a lot of car behind you..

I have no qualms abt using my touch and go it really saves me so much of time and topping up at Maybank is no problem too...others may have their personal reasons for not using them.

chewie
04-07-2007, 02:46 PM
hahahaha... yeah.. but i always notice that the queue at TNG and Smart Tag seems moved much much slower than the other lanes in the morning at LDP toll heading towards Sunway :)

USJ27Resident
05-07-2007, 12:08 AM
I have no qualms abt using my touch and go...

Speaking about TnG cards... do you guys know that the 64k chip MyKad can also function as a TnG. I found out by chance... at a Maybank ATM machine... when my wallet (which had my MyKad) rested near the TnG reload sensor... :p

Pretty neat though... :) No need to waste RM15 to buy empty TnG card.

sinleong
05-07-2007, 01:19 AM
i think nowadays there are just too many cars on the road. i normally use the federal highway and often at 10pm and most weekend nights, the FH is jammed from PJ hilton up to the sunway-LDP bridge. most times, the jam is not moving.

i think the attitude of malaysian drivers are to be blamed. 1st of all there are the queue jumpers. these are the worst idiots.

however, do not confuse the queue jumpers with those who change lanes. sometimes, i myself find the need to change lanes. usually, out of courtesy, when you turn on your signal to change lanes, the car behind in the next lane will slow down and let you in. that way, it ensures the traffic is continuos and always moving.

but the way we kiasu malaysians drive, we dont allow anyone to cut in. so the poor fellow who really need to change lane end up at the last end of chance until he need to stop his car with the signal still on waiting for someone to give way thus causing a jam.

gnehkgnep
05-07-2007, 07:28 AM
So what are the solutions?

1. Reckless drivers - send for driver refresher course :)
2. Having attitude problem - back to fader and mader to educate him/her :rolleyes:
3. LDP congested - place more and more traffic cones :eek:
4. Tolls plaza congested - all use TnG or Smart Tag (Merdeka is coming....so why not give free rather than 50% discount) ;)
5. Kiasu drivers - send to Singapore to learn to become Kiasi drivers :p
6. Speeding drivers - rather than waiting for 50% discount during Merdeka 50 yrs.....increase by another 50% is the way to go :D .....
7. Too many unutilize U-turn.....change it to O-turn (round-a-bout).....effectiveness??.....u decide

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gnehkgnep
05-07-2007, 07:45 AM
On another note.....how many of us went through defensive driving and road safety course.....and how many apply it on the road.....

Just to share some knowledge on road safety that I conducted with my company drivers annually.....according to Jabatan polis trafik......95% of road accidents occurred due to attitude.....and 5% due to others (mechanical failure, weather, road conditions...etc)......

But from a research gather from a study conducted via international investigation......50% of road fatality are due to fatigue (sleepiness)......

and u know what.....KL have the highest numbers of accident cases but among the lowest in fatalities.....reasons are Selangor and Johore have more highways thus more opportunity to speed and end up in fatalities.....and most of the speeding offences are by our neighbour down south..... :rolleyes:

.....ok back to topic.......so my question is......is it rational to place traffic cones to solve the traffic woes at Puchong....so far i have one comment from Chewie......she agree......me on the other hand disagree.....especially if u stay in Puchong Jaya......in and out of the roads from the Maybank area is pretty congested which spill over to the U-turn to those from IOI mall at the traffic light turning back to Bandar Puteri....... nowadays....i seem to end up stuck there for about half an hour..... :(

firefox
05-07-2007, 07:58 AM
ya i do feel sorry for you..you stay in a very denesly and congested populated township and the roads cant cope with the heavy traffic ...and the other causes to add to this horrendeous jam has been pointed out to you..There is nothing you can do except leave before the jam starts..we all go through this dilemma everyday too.

ahfatt78
05-07-2007, 08:47 AM
Opps, I forgot to mention if I am support the move to put cones or not. :)
Yes I support the move to put cones simply because to block cars from changing lane dangerously. However Litrak should consider a long term solution to solve the traffic jam problem.

robertec
05-07-2007, 09:48 AM
This was brought up by quite a number of residents during the recent Dialogue with the Police.

Have you ever noticed that in almost all the areas where there is a slow down of traffic or a jam, somehow "Q jumper" drivers add to the problem with their inconsideration.

So how would you feel if all Q jumpers are fined a minimum of RM300.00 if their car numbers are noted by the Traffic Police? No ifs and buts, should they feel that they have been wronged, they can fight the Police in Court.

May not solve all the traffic problems but would most certainly help in reducing it by a bit.

By the way, I am in full agreement with the cones placed along LDP during the evening, it stops inconsiderate drivers from doing "their thing" and puts an immediate stop to Q Jumpers.

A permanent solution is really not possible, cause there are times when traffic is not that heavy. And there is this question of how to stop jokers from driving?

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JoeJaffar
05-07-2007, 10:03 AM
the cones at ldp is good for traffic going towards bandar puteri puchong and usj. but it's hell for those from bkt jalil, jln klang lama & puchong jaya.

chewie
05-07-2007, 11:17 AM
it depands also...the cones there actually had provided a smooth traffice after the toll to puchong...

AllUrban
05-07-2007, 11:53 AM
Speaking about TnG cards... do you guys know that the 64k chip MyKad can also function as a TnG. I found out by chance... at a Maybank ATM machine... when my wallet (which had my MyKad) rested near the TnG reload sensor... :p

Pretty neat though... :) No need to waste RM15 to buy empty TnG card.Isnt there a TnG logo on your MyKad? TnG is great but it reaaaaaallly needs to become the Malaysian cash card for a cash alternative...safer and easier to use....

Oh, what I would give to be able to use TnG at Kiosk, 7-11, the shops at the LRT stations, etc....

cheers, m

JoeJaffar
05-07-2007, 12:34 PM
i've used the TnG that's embedded in MyKad. no problem for now.

police should just give the maximum fine for q jumpers, and that include those using emergency lanes as well. no ifs and buts, and no discounts either.

chewie
05-07-2007, 02:20 PM
and also to those who uses the petrol station road to by pass the queue...

gnehkgnep
05-07-2007, 03:54 PM
the cones at ldp is good for traffic going towards bandar puteri puchong and usj. but it's hell for those from bkt jalil, jln klang lama & puchong jaya.

I agree with Joe point above.....and from others....the conclusion is traffic cones is the way to go......but shouldn't any traffic planning should consider all roads affected?.......it seems that the cones prevent jokers from switching lanes but it only benefit certain population of road users.....for those coming from area as pointed out by Joe.....it's hell of a jam.......couldn't there be better solution rather than just cones??.....

Why not build a road from Pusat Bandar Puchong (Everyday Food Court) cut across to Puchong Jaya (HSBC Bank).........so residents living at Taman Wawasan and Bandar Puteri do not have to use the LDP to U-turn at the traffic light after IOI Mall?...... :rolleyes:

cskok8
05-07-2007, 04:04 PM
The LDP is one of the worst designed "highways" in Malaysia - not that there are any well designed ones. When it was opened there were only 4 (EMPAT-FOUR) pedestrian crossings along its entire stretch. Only after a few accidents and some people dying did they wake up and build a few more, plus the U-turns that you see now. Besides, a large portion of the "highway" is actually existing road (2-lane) which was widened to 3.

Stan
06-07-2007, 10:42 AM
Has anyone noticed that the traffic flow from Puchong to Kelana via the Sunway toll has been unusually smooth this whole week?

Not sure why? But read today that the Majlis link was opened on 3 July which eases the merging of traffic from Fed Hway and Kelana bound traffic on LDP.

Perhaps that has helped ease the traffic all the way to Puchong? Not sure. Anyone care to shed some light or share their opinion?

evelynlim
06-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Ya, i realised that the traffic flow at the cable bridge at the LDP towards Kelana Jaya is quite smooth this week too :confused: Can I use the Majlis Link at the F/H & come out at the Western Digital traffic light? Is it just go all the way straight :confused:

Stan
06-07-2007, 11:21 AM
article on the majlis link in todays star papers. Apparently one can now come out at Western digital traffic lights, but you have to make an illegal turn or something like that.

gnehkgnep
06-07-2007, 11:49 AM
Has anyone noticed that the traffic flow from Puchong to Kelana via the Sunway toll has been unusually smooth this whole week?...

Not too sure as I went out early by 6.30am.....and not affected by the usual jam after 7.00am every morning.....

But did u all notice yesterday traffic after 6.00pm was very smooth after Sunway toll plaza into Puchong......and guess what.....they have extended the inner road traffic cones until the bus stop from the flyover.....thus motorist not able to cut into the inner road from the flyover coming down to the PROTON EDAR junction.....I have to say that i am impress that such small changes to the traffic cones numbers can do such wonders in easing the congestion at the traffic light......bravo to LDP.....and thanks for the effort to look into the problem...... :)

But I would like to propose for them to replace the traffic cones with the plastic "stick" erected at the highway......at least when accidently knocked down by motorist......it wouldn't send the cones flying into middle of the road...... :rolleyes:

Stan
06-07-2007, 02:12 PM
Actually was at the Sunway toll at around 6.20 pm...there was a major gridlock rightafter the toll which I guess is due to the fact that over 10 lanes converging into 3-4 lanes...but once on the 3-4 lanes traffic was quite ok...moving. I notice that the jam is also cuased by spillover of jam along Bkt Jalil hway.

AllUrban
06-07-2007, 02:20 PM
I finally saw some of the cones in place on the LDP heading north from Sunway to Damansara....

Wow, what an extreme response to traffic congestion...how sad that they go this far....and Id hate to be the one placing and collecting the cones after rush hour....

But it did keep the traffic in place...so lets be honest, we can go through all the traffic management schemes we can think of, upgrade the roads, build more roads....and the only thing that will make a dent in our traffic situation is to reduce the number of SOVs (Single Occupant Vehicles) on the roads...

So if you want to help, use transit or carpool. If you dont want to help or cannot help...then encourage other to do so...

as for Majlis Link....using Majlis link from LDP-Federal or Federal-LDP is still illegal....

however, change is happening, as there is construction on the link in the Federal-LDP direction to open up the link to the other road (Jalan SS7/1 I think)...so when you get to the lights, make a lane change left and you are ok....

but this will take time....

Cheers, m

JoeJaffar
06-07-2007, 02:50 PM
another sad thing, this showed that most malaysian drivers can't think for themselves. they need cones and highway personnel to show them how to line up their cars and merge properly and safely.

firefox
06-07-2007, 03:05 PM
true, have you seen the yellow lines on the floor at entrance of the doors of the LRT stations...shameful Malaysians..dont know to queue!!

CCY
06-07-2007, 03:25 PM
All these comments on cones shows that a lot malaysians need to be force to follow rules. If there is no force , most will go haywire and take the shortest route to their destination. What more when you have that group breeding for decades with punity n still growing. Those planners/designers that think with their bottoms needed to be whack to their senses.:mad:

Where is the stick/enforcement from those paid to do this job...sleeping on their @#$%^ arses or what n let this country run to the ground. Bring back the stick and not dangle any carrot for that &^%$# offense. No amount of billions in campaign can cure this ill.:mad:
Still cherish the days where you'll get a traffic summons for stopping in the yellow boxes.