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pokemon
25-05-2007, 08:45 AM
The current scenario is :

1) Malaysia's richest get richer;

2) Malaysia's poorest get poorer;

3) Majority of the top 40 richest according to Forbes Asia's 2007 is not Bumiputra.

More from :

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/5/25/nation/17837444&sec=nation

wsl
25-05-2007, 10:07 AM
I believe the main reasion why the majority of the top 40 are not bumiputra is because Forbes uses the share market and public available information to assess. Many of the rich bumiputras cannot reveal their wealth because of various reasons (which I do not want to mention) and uses their proxies to front for them.

sly
25-05-2007, 10:55 AM
The current scenario is :

1) Malaysia's richest get richer;

2) Malaysia's poorest get poorer;

3) Majority of the top 40 richest according to Forbes Asia's 2007 is not Bumiputra.

More from :

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/5/25/nation/17837444&sec=nation


the richest might not be bumi.....but lets count the whole malaysia for the most millionaires ;) .....

EricK
25-05-2007, 11:28 AM
The current scenario is :

1) Malaysia's richest get richer;

2) Malaysia's poorest get poorer;

3) Majority of the top 40 richest according to Forbes Asia's 2007 is not Bumiputra.

More from :

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/5/25/nation/1783744&sec=nation

What is wrong with being rich?
:confused: or is being rich a no-no thing? i'm sure these people who are there have worked hard for it....

irisbaggins
25-05-2007, 11:34 AM
I'm happy for them. Hard work and luck really pays....

Guess the first piece of gold ( in cantonese...tai yatt tong gum) is very important...with that gold, hard work, luck, a great plan......the rich will only keep getting richer.

The bumis doesnt stand a chance. They only know how to sign contracts and delegate the job to other companies. So basically they only know 2 things....make nice signatures and bribe/corruption. 50 years of independance have made them olympic gold medal holders for speed signing and corruption. Kudos...to bapa kemerdekaan, bapa perpaduan, bapa pembangunan, and bapaks of all bumis.

sly
25-05-2007, 12:07 PM
I'm happy for them. Hard work and luck really pays....

Guess the first piece of gold ( in cantonese...tai yatt tong gum) is very important...with that gold, hard work, luck, a great plan......the rich will only keep getting richer.

The bumis doesnt stand a chance. They only know how to sign contracts and delegate the job to other companies. So basically they only know 2 things....make nice signatures and bribe/corruption. 50 years of independance have made them olympic gold medal holders for speed signing and corruption. Kudos...to bapa kemerdekaan, bapa perpaduan, bapa pembangunan, and bapaks of all bumis.

not forgetting bapa mertua..... :rolleyes:

USJ27Resident
25-05-2007, 01:44 PM
not forgetting bapa mertua..... :rolleyes:

ROTFLMAO!.... good one dude... :D

Good Guy
25-05-2007, 01:49 PM
The current scenario is :

1) Malaysia's richest get richer;

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This is reality. When a counter in the KLSE increases 10 sen the common citizen holding 1000shares gains RM100. The super rich may hold 1 million shares! Please calculate the gain! :D

isarahim
25-05-2007, 02:47 PM
The bumis doesnt stand a chance. They only know how to sign contracts and delegate the job to other companies. So basically they only know 2 things....make nice signatures and bribe/corruption.
This is neither correct nor helpful for the cause of ridding Malaysia from racism.

Those that do not like the racist rules in our country do a disservice to themselves by narrowly stereotyping and/or reverting back to racial mudslinging. Such tactics will only serve to provide more ammunition to the kris-wielders.

isarahim
25-05-2007, 02:48 PM
Moreover, if you have policies in place that tell a certain group of people that there are shortcuts to getting wealthy, then those people will take those shortcuts. It's not the fault of those people. They are just human. The fault lies with the policy setters. Hence, the "bumis" should not be blamed for the current situation. BN should be blamed. The people that continue to vote in BN should be blamed and that goes across the race groups.

There are loads of successful "bumi" business people around the world; most of them have literally fled Malaysia because they don't like what they see back home; most of them wish nothing else than be successful on their own merits; and many of them are pious and consider racism including bumi-privileges fundamentally anti-Islamic.

sly
25-05-2007, 03:08 PM
Moreover, if you have policies in place that tell a certain group of people that there are shortcuts to getting wealthy, then those people will take those shortcuts. It's not the fault of those people. They are just human. The fault lies with the policy setters. Hence, the "bumis" should not be blamed for the current situation. BN should be blamed. The people that continue to vote in BN should be blamed and that goes across the race groups.

There are loads of successful "bumi" business people around the world; most of them have literally fled Malaysia because they don't like what they see back home; most of them wish nothing else than be successful on their own merits; and many of them are pious and consider racism including bumi-privileges fundamentally anti-Islamic.

i would like to congratulate and salute those bumi that rise on their own in other countries....dont look back or even think of giving back to the community in malaysia.....i never used to feel this way but since i run my own business...i can everything so clearly now....msia is so corrupted that everything you do is about under table....they must learn do it the man's way...SHOW HAND.....not under table hand....

firefox
25-05-2007, 03:32 PM
3) Majority of the top 40 richest according to Forbes Asia's 2007 is not Bumiputra



So whats your point?..arent you happy that the non bumis are the wealthy ppl of this nation run by the BN government. So do we still need to gripe?

Timo
25-05-2007, 03:34 PM
The widening gap between rich and poor is a worldwide problem, and is not limited to Malaysia. Although I am hardly an economics expert, I believe this problem is facilitated by our subscription to the capitalist economic model, which makes it relatively easy for rich people to make more money than poor people, usually at the latters expense.

This is where I have trouble with 'rich' people - although there is nothing wrong with rich people per se, I do have a problem with rich people making money at the expense of poor people. And let's face it, the huge majority of rich people take the easy way out and take advantage of the poor. This is particularly clear when looking at whole nations, rather than individuals (eg America taking advantage of africa's debts).

So, hero worship of rich people is rather dispicable in my opinion. What we should be looking for is people who make everyone's lives better, to increase global 'richness', or people who progress (financially or otherwise) hand-in-hand with everyone around them.

Ps ... How race came into the thread discussion is beyond me...

sly
25-05-2007, 03:44 PM
So whats your point?..arent you happy that the non bumis are the wealthy ppl of this nation run by the BN government. So do we still need to gripe?

i can assume that many wealthy non-bumi in msia is not mr clean either.....for those MB to be able to a build multimillions bungalows....u need ppl to feed them too..... :rolleyes:

geordie
25-05-2007, 03:45 PM
Hats off to Mr. Public Bank and Mr. Maxis on the Top 10 list for remaining as Mr. Teh and Mr. Ananda rspectively. Who needs to be addressed as Datuk, Tan Sri or what-have-you when you're minting out billions of dosh !!! :D

firefox
25-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Ps ... How race came into the thread discussion is beyond me...

Exactly, for some its their favourite pastime

fabregas
25-05-2007, 06:46 PM
Corruption is not limited to only one race. Its a universal problem. Similarly with nepotism, or not paying back study loan - I have non bumi friends who are extremely well off who also don't bother to pay back the loan. Why is this happenning, for one thing culture - getting away with things like this - not paying back loan, escape saman - very macho thing in our society - something you can brag to your friends during a teh tarik session. The other - the systems that manage scholarships, tenders, etc are open to abuse -so people take the opportunity-lah. People always looking for loopholes - mah. What tricks or underhand tactics which are frown upon now may become fair game tomorrow.

sirgalahad2010
25-05-2007, 07:05 PM
I see that Raja Nazrin's sister (Eleena Raja Azlan Shah) is on the Forbe's list in 25th position with an estimated wealth of US$228 million (based on her substantial stake in listed construction company Gamuda).

kwchang
26-05-2007, 07:39 AM
...The bumis doesnt stand a chance. They only know how to sign contracts and delegate the job to other companies...
Same situation with the Lord, generalisation of a single ethnic group as if it is a genetic defect.

Ethnic bashing is the norm for BIGOTs. We have no place for them here. Irisbaggins is suspended for a short period.

This is now a public warning - bigotry will mean a suspension and continued ethnic bashing will mean a ticket out of this forum forever. We do not welcome RACISTs.

You have the right to point out deficiencies of the Government. Substantiate what you say at all times - we do not want our beloved forum to be accused of being a rumour mill. But you cannot make generalisations about a race.

Cloud
26-05-2007, 10:27 AM
Did you all also notice that Malaysian company Samling Global on the Forbes list, and has been accused of "logging illegally on over 400,000 hectares of tropical rainforest outside its concessions and of operating on titled Amerindian lands without the consent of the communities".

" Samling Global chief executive Yaw Chee Ming is also a new entrant at number 15 with a net worth of US$370mil." (The Star)

End logging in Guyana, M'sian timber firm told
May 25, 07 11:56am

Two organisations representing indigenous people in Guyana have urged Malaysian timber giant Samling Group to immediately cease all logging operations on the titled lands of the Akawini Amerindian Village on the Pomeroon River.

Read more:
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/67697