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sarawakian
18-04-2007, 03:56 PM
There has been many debates as to what a shopping centre is. Previously, during my parents' time, they were places which were places where one can find items and normally looked like an upgraded market. Then, the cinemas in shopping centres were not incorporated, hence the only way for dates or family outings were to the standalone cinemas. rarely were children brought.

However, when I was in college, shopping centres were more of a lepak place...with air-conditioning and fast food. It was ok to seat around stairways and ta pau to eat and then play at their arcades. I used to remember queing at the amusement centres in Sungei Wang and even Subang Parade to play Daytona! and then Street Fighter / X Men. Now shopping centres have changed. People bring children and at times allow them to run about. Shopping centres now are no more places for essentials and to lepak anymore.

Each shopping centre has its character. Summit is a great example of a place to get great pirated DVDs and a quick stop and go. Sunway is just too vibrant and at times very teenage just like the lepak I am used to. Subang Parade is laid back. Graet facilities and rather uncommon tenants. Great that Toys R Us and the amiusement is still there...even the same Daytona machines!!!! Wow!!

Now we see shopping centres as places where families spend time as our parks and other places either are dissapearing or being charged a fee. Fishing areas dissapear, swings missing, football fields flattened for suraus and mosques as welll as kindergartens.Some are flattened and converted to hard street soccer courts.

It is indeed ice to see Summit doing 3 on 3 basket ball and even Ragnarok tournaments. It is nice to see Subang Parade with its Shop For Your School and their choral speaking contests.

I think it is time for evolution. A time where shopping centres should eveolve to fit the community and not the other way around. Please, if anyone would be kind, please share your thoughts as to how shopping centres should do this. :rolleyes:

AllUrban
19-04-2007, 11:26 AM
I think it is time for evolution. A time where shopping centres should eveolve to fit the community and not the other way around. Please, if anyone would be kind, please share your thoughts as to how shopping centres should do this. :rolleyes:Let's see...Id like to see more community activity/drop-in centres, youth centres, mall-walking activities, and libraries....

Cheers, m

sarawakian
19-04-2007, 02:36 PM
It is indeed very notable that some shopping centres in Singapore also house a community library. I saw this in Jurong Point. Subang Jaya only has the hypermedia library. It could be good if a shopping centre in Subang Jaya takes a lead to create one area. Need not be big but about the size of MPH Subang Parade is good. It would also be good if one day, this is gazetted and that any shopping centre in a community of this size must have a small library. this could be one which is not just books but with chargeable facilities ie for internet, photo editings, research, and even printings. These could also be venues for career talks etc.

It is also notable that there is a green lung to the centre . I saw this in VivoCity Singapore...it is on the roof. No shopping centre has this in Subang Jaya. Subang Parade, Summit Subang and Sunway Pyramid do have these (Lagoon don't count). Sunway used to have a nice patch at the front entrance and it is gone now. it is sad that environmental well being is replaced by so called thematic concrete.

There should also be considerations given to the needs of the physically challenged.

:cool:

Teeque
20-04-2007, 03:54 AM
I hv seen these done by malls not in Malaysia:

Community Photowall
Open to anyone, budding or professional shutterbugs. The good, the bad, the ugly, just abt anything can be posted on the wall with the community in mind. Photos will be posted for a week and the public gets to vote the best, second and third best picture where prizes by sponsors will be awarded. Creates community awareness and interaction. perhaps LensaMalaysia might wanna spearhead this?

Food month cum cooking workshop plus contest
Cooking and food workshops held monthly with joint participation frm food industry exhibitors. Sponsors can provide prizes or food products used for cooking contest. Contestants pit their skills and showcase their recipes for prizes.

Monthly cybergames for youths
Just like what is done at Sub Par with the Youth React cybergame competition last mth. Hold it monthly so the youths will hv an activity to look forward to.

sarawakian
20-04-2007, 08:55 AM
I think your points are good. It would also be notable is shopping centres are actively involved in campaigns for social issues. This includes Anti-Dengue, Voter registration, meet the bomba and police with exhibitions as well as a platform for art and music from schools. The extra co-curricular activites like scouting, Bulan Sabit Merah, Guides etc should be encouraged to do exhibitions as well as projects done in school ie science project, poster competitions etc. :)

hhtee
20-04-2007, 10:45 AM
They should set aside an area for people to throw plastic, paper, glass, etc.

Just like Ikano Power Centre / Ikea

isarahim
21-04-2007, 10:25 AM
Just like Ikano Power Centre / Ikea
Recycling and waste collection is an inherent behaviour in countries like Sweden.

But just take a walk to just about any park or playground in USJ, or any roadside for that matter, and you will notice the complete opposite behaviour.

isarahim
21-04-2007, 10:43 AM
Let's see...Id like to see more community activity/drop-in centres, youth centres, mall-walking activities, and libraries....
Completely agree. Almost every mall in Klang Valley have the same characteristics; they're noisy, tasteless concrete & glass contraptions with dirty toilets, poor often jammed access, hugh parking deficit, and basically an identical set of shops. They're completely devoid of warmth, in architecture as well as services. They're all shopping oriented. Not community oriented. It's pretty telling that not even KLCC has a library.

Teeque
21-04-2007, 03:10 PM
thats why MPH and Borders in malls hv become de-facto 'libraries' to kids now...

birdy
21-04-2007, 05:11 PM
They can reduce their profits to benefit the community who is suffering from toll price hike, petrol price hike, etc..etc.. :o

sarawakian
23-04-2007, 11:28 AM
Community Events are a good way to hlp out. It is also noted that Shopping Centres can also be a venue used traditionally by schools as a way to inform and educate the public.

For instance:

a. Essay writing competitions in a quiet area of the shopping centre
b. Poster competitions on social events whether on negative (smoking, drugs etc) or positive (love your teachers, family day, recial harmony)
c. Exhibition of art and crafts by Design based universities and colleges
d. Platform for budding musicians to showcase skills ie piano, guitar, drums, violin, mini concerts by groups etc...
e. Drama
f. Choir

It is also a good area to allow for some charity to be done based on the needs of the community...hence, centres can sponsor venues for runs, or even events done within the community like for schools (similar to what Subang Parade's shop for your school) but with elements like school sports sponsorships and such :o

birdy
24-04-2007, 05:24 AM
I would suggest shopping centres should look into community facilities such as parking for disabilities (carrefour has done it), baby changing / feeding room (Jusco has it), benches along the escalator for those old people to take a rest after long walk (or maybe some young people! :p ).

sarawakian
24-04-2007, 09:05 AM
Yeah, I agree.

Looking around, Subang Parade has one of the best toilets, mother's room, disabled toilets, disabled parking bays and even a brighter carpark. Sunway has good toilets but the carpark is bad as with Summit who is the worst. Carrefour has good carpark brightness but the floor is slippery and the toilets are bad.

AllUrban
24-04-2007, 01:48 PM
organize the mall-walking activity, and maybe something will happen as people demand better services....

one reason things are so bad for some malls...because they assume that customers can (sometimes) hold it in until they get home... :p But if most of your people are coming in as pedestrians/bus people...then they will want good toilets, quality food, libraries, etc....

I was at Hartamas Shopping Centre on sunday, and the main floor toilet was FILTHY! Feet on the toilet seats, no toilet paper, no paper towel, weak soap, etc. etc...

C'mon, HSC! How can IKANO be so nice and HSC be so poor (dont look now but the signage at both centres is very similar, are they owned by the same co?) in the cleanliness???

Oh, another thing I want is proper bus stations, including layby-drop off lanes, and shelters that connect right to the main entrance of the mall! Helloooo Subang Parade...build a bus shelter and drop-off area in front of the T.G.I. Friday's entrance and you will get so many more customers!

And Sunway...c'mon, the new bus drop off area will be located under the new exit ramp at the SJ bound lanes...must cross the broad plaza before we can get into the mall...gonna get wet...

why not build another monorail station beside the bus drop-off area so we can get shelter from the rain AND use the monorail too....

Cheers, m

ps. Sunway new expansion targeted to open on 1 Sept 2007

sarawakian
24-04-2007, 03:27 PM
organize the mall-walking activity, and maybe something will happen as people demand better services....

one reason things are so bad for some malls...because they assume that customers can (sometimes) hold it in until they get home... :p But if most of your people are coming in as pedestrians/bus people...then they will want good toilets, quality food, libraries, etc....

I was at Hartamas Shopping Centre on sunday, and the main floor toilet was FILTHY! Feet on the toilet seats, no toilet paper, no paper towel, weak soap, etc. etc...

C'mon, HSC! How can IKANO be so nice and HSC be so poor (dont look now but the signage at both centres is very similar, are they owned by the same co?) in the cleanliness???

Oh, another thing I want is proper bus stations, including layby-drop off lanes, and shelters that connect right to the main entrance of the mall! Helloooo Subang Parade...build a bus shelter and drop-off area in front of the T.G.I. Friday's entrance and you will get so many more customers!

And Sunway...c'mon, the new bus drop off area will be located under the new exit ramp at the SJ bound lanes...must cross the broad plaza before we can get into the mall...gonna get wet...

why not build another monorail station beside the bus drop-off area so we can get shelter from the rain AND use the monorail too....

Cheers, m

ps. Sunway new expansion targeted to open on 1 Sept 2007

Yup...good points....on Subang Parade and Sunway.

I think they forgot the needs for the pedestrians as well as those who are taking public transportation as well as parking cars in the outdoor.

I also think that they should brighten up the outdoor. Subang Parade needs to have a sign. Most people refers to it as Parkson....?


There is also a need to get shopping centres to act as venues for public services like dengue awareness, children safety, road safety and maybe now a location for voter registration. :rolleyes:

isarahim
24-04-2007, 07:09 PM
I was at Hartamas Shopping Centre on sunday, and the main floor toilet was FILTHY! Feet on the toilet seats, no toilet paper, no paper towel, weak soap, etc. etc...

C'mon, HSC! How can IKANO be so nice and HSC be so poor (dont look now but the signage at both centres is very similar, are they owned by the same co?) in the cleanliness???
The IKANO toilets are operated by IKANO. The JSC toilets are operated by the mall. So they are part of more or less ordinary public facilities.

The way to address this, which has been taken by many European countries, notably Germany and Scandinavia (IKANO origin), is to make the provision of clean toilets a firm condition for a restaurant's or large shop's operating licence. As a result, the operators are compelled to and wont to provide excellent toilet facilities. They cannot take the easy way out of just referring to the mall....

In KL, you'll find even self-proclaimed 4 and 5 star restaurants in malls forcing their guests to use filthy public toilets, which is a complete turn-off, especially for tourists. KLCC is amazingly no exception!!

Pboey
24-04-2007, 08:49 PM
thats why MPH and Borders in malls hv become de-facto 'libraries' to kids now...

:D I LOVE BORDERS!!

Kinokuniya a bit out of reach. You have to battle the congestion to get there. :(
But there is still a better choice of reading material

sarawakian
27-04-2007, 04:44 PM
I think MPH should do a little book party for children at shopping centres...maybe with the new Harry Potter, a costume party or a sleep over can be done?

In my travels, I note that shopping centres which are community based are quite close to the community. :p

kwchang
27-04-2007, 05:46 PM
...to use filthy public toilets, which is a complete turn-off, especially for tourists. KLCC is amazingly no exception!!
Isa, you obviously have not been home lately. The toilets in Subang Parade, have been upgraded and they are bright, clean and FREE. Even Sunway Pyramid is upgrading their toilets. Of course, if you were to go to Jusco stores, their toilets are very popular since they are cleaner and brighter than the ones in the public mall. I believe public toilets in the malls are getting cleaner, brighter and now mostly are free of charge as well.

kwchang
27-04-2007, 05:50 PM
Did you read http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=17920 about 'shopping for schools'? OK, it is to make people shop at Subang Parade but then the winning schools do get monetary rewards and other gifts. I think it is a great idea and Parade is contributing to their community at one shot. Kudos.

Tikusyeo
27-04-2007, 05:51 PM
Isa, you obviously have not been home lately. The toilets in Subang Parade, have been upgraded and they are bright, clean and FREE. Even Sunway Pyramid is upgrading their toilets. Of course, if you were to go to Jusco stores, their toilets are very popular since they are cleaner and brighter than the ones in the public mall. I believe public toilets in the malls are getting cleaner, brighter and now mostly are free of charge as well.

I concur. With the exception of Summit. It still collects 20 cents and the toilets are still filthy.

Teeque
28-04-2007, 02:09 AM
I think MPH should do a little book party for children at shopping centres...
yes, MPH does hv a children's book club. so does Popular bookstores. but i hv no idea what activities or benefits they hv in store for members as i hv no access. perhaps some parents here do and can elaborate...