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wongstandard
10-04-2007, 03:05 PM
i went to padang to jog but lately i find that litters everywhere in padang,drains and roads.Have MPSJ terminated the services of cleaners?We pay cukai pintu and all taxes and we get this in return.Not fair.

firefox
10-04-2007, 03:33 PM
who threw them in the first place ?

leethongkeng
10-04-2007, 03:39 PM
i went to padang to jog but lately i find that litters everywhere in padang,drains and roads.Have MPSJ terminated the services of cleaners?We pay cukai pintu and all taxes and we get this in return.Not fair.

Which mention which part of USJ Padang.

patwon
10-04-2007, 05:36 PM
just a day ago i walk by usj11 playground opp the thai restaurant,indeed is not well maintained.rubbish here and there.May the authority take note.

sinleong
10-04-2007, 05:59 PM
come to the USJ2/5F padang. it is strewn with rubbish.
1st of all, i have seen many kids just throwing rubbish everywhere. i think kids these days have no values at all. maybe they have seen their parents doing it. try to follow a school bus full of kids one day and you will find sweet wrappers, plastic bags etc. being thrown out as the bus moves along.
2ndly, MPSJ never come and empty the rubbish bins in the padang. they are over flowing and some of them burnt down, probably by people throwing burning cigarettes inside.

once i just brought a rubbish bag and started to pick up all the rubbish in the padang. there were many kids playing and some adults walking around. not only did they not help, they look at me as if i am strange. i am sorry, i have no more hope for malaysians.

USJ27Resident
10-04-2007, 08:36 PM
i went to padang to jog but lately i find that litters everywhere in padang,drains and roads.Have MPSJ terminated the services of cleaners?We pay cukai pintu and all taxes and we get this in return.Not fair.

No money... they've hired too many enforcement officers instead... :mad:

sirgalahad2010
11-04-2007, 08:45 AM
i went to padang to jog but lately i find that litters everywhere in padang,drains and roads.Have MPSJ terminated the services of cleaners?We pay cukai pintu and all taxes and we get this in return.Not fair.

Yah, but who is responsible for littering in the first place?

Seems to me that a good dose of civic consciousness is called for.

Or are we expecting an army of Bangladeshi, Indonesian or Indian cleaners to pick up after us? Like what's happening in Spore?

I say hit the litterers with hefty fines and CWOs (corrective work orders). Maybe the MPSJ should take a lawatan sambil belajar trip to Spore to see how its done!
:D

Kiwi
11-04-2007, 09:00 AM
Yah, but who is responsible for littering in the first place?

Seems to me that a good dose of civic consciousness is called for.
Yupp... I agree on that, we ourselves have responsibility to keep our surrounding area clean & beuty.


Maybe the MPSJ should take a lawatan sambil belajar trip to Spore to see how its done!
:D
I think all this while there is a goument fund allocated for these local authorities ppls to participate in some seminar larr... lawatan sambil belajar trip larr...? But I do not know how effective their learning skill are? Or just being a having fun tour trip??

AllUrban
11-04-2007, 02:19 PM
I say hit the litterers with hefty fines and CWOs (corrective work orders). Maybe the MPSJ should take a lawatan sambil belajar trip to Spore to see how its done!
:DExactly, if you know that you would have to clean the mess up...in Malaysian heat...wearing a flourescent vest...you would be a lot less likely to throw it

Cheers, m

MOYSC
11-04-2007, 03:30 PM
I believe the root of the problem is lack of enforcement by the local authority. Their lack of enforcement and 'complacent' mentality have given good opportunities for the public to break the laws.

Look at the Singaporeans...they would gladly throw rubbish when they are in M'sia but would never dare do so in their own country.

Stricter laws, tighter enforcements (+visibility) and follow-ups can help solve many issues including littering in public area. MPSJ must also work together with the public to be their 'eyes & ears' and to act fairly, justly and promptly when there are real complaints. However, how many times hv real concerns been ignored???

Hence, the public musn't be entirely blamed when the local authority themselves are NOT doing what they are supposed to do!

sinleong
11-04-2007, 04:00 PM
let's not use singaporeans as example all the time because i think they are a bad example.

look at australia or UK. hardly any enforcement. but you can see that people will carry their trash until they find a rubbish bin. there was a time in the UK when rubbish bins were taken off the streets because the Irish Republicans Terrorists were putting bombs in them. the streets were still spotlessly clean.

firefox
11-04-2007, 04:02 PM
we dont need to enforce any laws its either you have civic consciousness in you and good upbringing or not.

sinleong
11-04-2007, 04:17 PM
we dont need to enforce any laws its either you have civic consciousness in you and good upbringing or not.

well said!

keep an eye on your kids next time...

bslee
11-04-2007, 04:23 PM
well said!
keep an eye on your kids next time...

YES!..I fully agree.. INSTILL civic consciousness in KIDS!. Its GOOD!..VERY FUNDAMENTAL BASIC of proper upbringing!.

patwon
11-04-2007, 05:55 PM
what about the leaves ,dusts,tree branches,scattered around the padang?NO sweeper or padang keeper to clear them.Blame to MPSJ.

sly
11-04-2007, 06:03 PM
3 more fingers pointing to yourself....if each and everyone dont litter....do you think u can find rubbish? first....for those smokers that throws the cigarrette butt on the floor please stand up... :rolleyes:

bslee
11-04-2007, 06:03 PM
what about the leaves ,dusts,tree branches,scattered around the padang?NO sweeper or padang keeper to clear them.Blame to MPSJ.

I'm speculating town councils have "biased" set of priorities when it comes to housekeeping of public areas. Reasons may vary from importance, political bias, or other reasons not known to us.
My home is infront of a padang and next to it is the big mosque. No prizes for guessing, but the upkeep and periodic maintenance is from my observation.. EXCELLENT!.
Sorry folks..IMHO, the freaking authorities currently in authority are BIASED and in many areas UNFAIR!..this is what one gets for voting this freaking party into ruling this country!.

Seriously..and ..NEVER ever think they are at YOUR service on call!..its likely obvious WE ALL here exist to owe them their existence!.

BTW.. just like to add.. go ASK them councils of their "Maintenance schedule"?.. I bet my bottom dollar they will never show it to anyone..so much for transparency.. The word "Transparency"..its just a figment of anyone's imagination or doesn't exist in their vocabulary.

lizzy
14-04-2007, 01:05 AM
I lived in Singapore for many years before moving to Malaysia because home is still better. Of course, I am disappointed with various area, but willing to compromise. One of which is of course cleaniness.

One thing which I really feel lacking here is the rubbish bin. If you have rubbish in your hand, in a park, and a rubbish bin is easily accessible, then it would encourage a civic minded person to throw in there. If there's no rubbish bin, and only 1 in a large park... even a civic minded person may be tempted to just throw it on the floor.

The next thing then is even there's rubbish bin, normally it is full and not well collected. :(

My husband maintain our garden himself and would put the garden waste outside and behind our house. MPSJ told us that the collector would come every week. Needless to say, that is not the case. What normally end up is the neighbour would start throwing their other domestic waste at the pile of the garden waste and before you know, it is a pile of all sort of rubbish. There was once where the rubbish was not collected for almost 3 months!

What I learn to do eventually is to keep calling MPSJ aduan tel: 03-56376545. They will log the call and you get a ticket. If you provide your actual address, they will mail you a letter with the ticket number and when the case is closed (mean when the rubbish is collected). There was once when they sent in a letter stating the case is closed when the rubbish is still there. Make sure you follow up with MPSJ. Anyway, due to my constant follow up, eventually the rubbish get collected. The incidents happen a few rounds, where I would always have to call up MPSJ to log a case, and follow up. And now, it seems that the rubbish are pretty promptly collected. It is not on a weekly basis, but at least not as long as a month.

My feeling is that it is the contractor hired by MPSJ who slacked and didn't do their work. After many complaint and I'm sure they also kena from MPSJ, they now seems to get their work done.

So fella USJ neighbour, if you would do the same as well, by making complaint when you see rubbish around your neighbourhood, I am sure things will improve. Yes, MPSJ should be doing the making sure part, but I guess we can help out too. After all, we live here and it is our neighbourhood.

Cheers...

kwchang
14-04-2007, 09:59 AM
Information to all residents in SJ & USJ - the Selangor state government formed regional 'residents' committees' and the most active ones are in SJ/USJ. They have just launched a new website - http://jkpsj.org.my/

Go there to find out what the Jawatankuasa Penduduk (JKP) is about. Find out your Zone and click on it on the interactive map - in there you will find at least the contact of the Chairman of your zone. The chairman and the JKP committee are residents of that zone and their service is voluntary.

The JKP is essentailly the link between the residents and MPSJ (in the Subang Jaya constituency). If you have complaints, the website has an 'aduan' page - you need to subscribe to it because they need to know who the person who is making the complaint. There is also a forum page - which is empty at the moment because the site was just launched in April 2007 and they had not made it known to the public yet. You are probably hearing about it for the first time here in usj.com.my

Please take note
The JKP members are not paid a sen to be in the committee. Just like people running the usj.com website, they are volunteers. Recently the new YDP of MPSJ has put more emphasis and support to the JKPs. In the past there was less emphasis and thus nobody really heard about this setup.

If the residents have a complaint with MPSJ, they should first make use of the complaints channels at MPSJ. Go directly to them. They have a system in place. However, if after they tell you that the complaint have been attended to and nothing was done to your satisfaction, you should inform your JKP. This is where the JKP comes in. Members of the JKP should look into the complaint of malfunction of MPSJ and try to address it with the authorities at MPSJ.

Recently, the YDP and his officers had sessions where they met up with the JKPs in group sessions (after office hours). In these sessions, the JKP concerned had listed various complaints such as rubbish at playgrounds (this very issue discussed here) and the YDP had directed his officers to ensure the contractors stick to their jobs.

This JKP idea is slowly taking off and the MPSJ is supportive of the link with the residents. Help to make it work - this is a good avenue to improve our community relationships with MPSJ.