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new3
04-04-2007, 06:20 PM
I wonder why nothing is done about the congestion @ Jalan Tujuan in the evening. It's obvious there are 2 bottlenecks when one is coming in from the old KFC entrance. One is the turning to SS19 and the other at USJ3 traffic-light. Can't MPSJ adjust the digtial timing of the traffic light to allow better movement of vehicles during peak hours? What is out MP LEE HWA BENG doing about this? Maybe he's not concerned about that cause he's staying elsewhere. My blood pressure has gone up since moving to USJ. Please do something!!!!!

orchipalar
04-04-2007, 06:37 PM
Err...hey Orchi...what the heck could be happening these days along Persiaran Tujuan(in the case if this is the street that the angry complainant is currently referring to)...?:confused:

Ahem...Oi buddy...relax lar...don't know yet wor...Orchi ain't traveling on that street much during peak traffic hours...err...maybe we can ask buddy PCYeoh...who often would use this stretch of the street during the peak traffic hours...to see if there is much fuss about it lately lor...

Err...Ok Orchi...lets just ask buddy PCYeoh about it...since he is more familiar with this kawasan...n persekitaran...

Oiiiii...Uncle PCYeoh...! What's going down with Persiaran Tujuan these days man...during the peak traffic hours...? :confused:

CCY
04-04-2007, 09:35 PM
New3......if you are unaware , wait till this pedestrian crossing is in full operation and if it is not done properly , not only blood pressure goes up but can oso vomit blood wan.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=14296&page=4

concern!!!
04-04-2007, 10:44 PM
this evening , the queue till to the ktm station man !!! terrible. !

sinleong
04-04-2007, 11:08 PM
to solve this problem on a long term basis is to have the LRT go right through Subang jaya and USJ. That way, many cars will be taken off the road as people will opt to take the LRT to work. no point widening the roads or building more roads. cars will increase year after year...

BTW, what happened to this LRT plan? Seems quiet already?

Longfellow
04-04-2007, 11:34 PM
This was suggested by our recently robbed state assembly man a few years ago to have access road from federal highway to USJ bypassing Subang Jaya. Unfortunately the idea was short down. With so many condo coming up in USJ area, can't imagine how bad the congestion will become.

It's time to move out of USJ. May be Ara Damansara will be a better choice. Any comment?

concern!!!
04-04-2007, 11:37 PM
damansara area = usj area in terms of traffic volume... mayb we can consider nilai? HAHAHAHHA

pcyeoh
05-04-2007, 12:19 AM
I wonder why nothing is done about the congestion @ Jalan Tujuan in the evening. It's obvious there are 2 bottlenecks when one is coming in from the old KFC entrance. One is the turning to SS19 and the other at USJ3 traffic-light. Can't MPSJ adjust the digtial timing of the traffic light to allow better movement of vehicles during peak hours? What is out MP LEE HWA BENG doing about this? Maybe he's not concerned about that cause he's staying elsewhere. My blood pressure has gone up since moving to USJ. Please do something!!!!!
The chaotic traffic situation in and around Subang Jaya and USJ is simply caused by too many vehicles travelling on our congested road which are either badly designed and the overdevelopment.

The varius hotspots are will make your blood temperature rise are at
a) SJMC
b) Metropolitan roundabout
c) 3K Sports Complex stretching till the Giant Hypermarket traffic light
d) USJ 20/USJ 18 traffic light to the exit to LDP
e) Whole stretch of Jalan Usaha
f) Jalan Tujuan from USJ 4 traffic lights to SS 19 and exiting at the Federal Highway.

It is very easy to blame our local politicians and accused them of doing nothing and worst still saying that they are staying elsewhere. Only God is omnipresent and is everywhere. Politicians are not God. If new3 is actively involved in community service, he/she will know that there is no day where we don't talk about traffic. We are always thinking of finding ways to find a solution. Have new3 ever call MPSJ about the traffic light mistiming and suggest what is the best combination for all the 4 intersection lights to synchronise? Where were you when a group of us together with our ADUN and MP demonstrating against the authority for approving incoming traffic from Batu Tiga on the western front and incoming traffic from Puchong into USJ 1 in the eastern front. Until and unless you put your foot forward, don't say that people could not bothered or have no concern about the chaotic traffic situation in this community. By the way Dato Lee is heading a committee which has proposed to Putra LRT where the route and the stations should be. Need I say more.

orchipalar
05-04-2007, 01:02 AM
I wonder why nothing is done about the congestion @ Jalan Tujuan in the evening. It's obvious there are 2 bottlenecks when one is coming in from the old KFC entrance. One is the turning to SS19 and the other at USJ3 traffic-light. Can't MPSJ adjust the digtial timing of the traffic light to allow better movement of vehicles during peak hours? What is out MP LEE HWA BENG doing about this? Maybe he's not concerned about that cause he's staying elsewhere. My blood pressure has gone up since moving to USJ. Please do something!!!!!Err Orchi believes whole heartedly...that should anyone be presently living in any other urban communities in this country...his or her BP would be rising faster...

Simply because he or she...like many others in any similar communities would merely be 'wondering' n 'complaining'...n he or she won't even bother about 'doing something' about it...

Ahem...of course there are options...for taxpayers or otherwise...he or she could...

1. Try out the public bus n rail transport system(it has been upgraded a bit of late)...in a bid to reduce the nos. of 'unproductive' private transport vehicles jamming the streets...by driving or riding solo most of the times...

Should this works out...preach it to relatives...frens n neighbours that they too should do likewise...to reduce the traffic congestions.

2. Take an initiative to at least make that phone call or write an official complaint to MPSJ or the traffic police divisions...

3. Make an effort to pay the local representatives a visit to understand... propose n cooperate with what's best to share their burdens in the continuous initiative to find viable ways to rectify or improve the worsening situation...

4. or...anything he or she can think of doing to take it easy n relax...please DO something...

RobotdeNiro
05-04-2007, 01:22 AM
Solution......one word.............tram

Mammoth
05-04-2007, 06:02 AM
I used Persiaran Tujuan everyday...morning and evening. As usual... the short distant will take u 30 mins from SS17 to USJ4. :(

Ok...I have some idea for improvement .. . maybe we all can put on some thinking cap to pass on these ideas to Dato Lee so that he can act on it.

Morning
1. The bottleneck in the morning is the junction at USJ3. Sometimes, you can really see the inflow and outflow of the traffic stucked at the junction there, no able to move because some inconsiderate drivers jumped queue, instead of lining up, they create their own three lanes. :mad: This causing those vehicles turning into USJ 3 got stuck. What we can do here is to consider open up additonal exits at USJ3 and USJ4 (the one after the USJ2 traffic light) and to convert the current one into one way only.

2. The traffic light at USJ2, turning into Persiaraan Tujuan should be synchronized with the one in SS19 traffic ligh. Though the traffic light in USJ2 will stay green for quite sometime. Unfortunately, only 10 cars can cross the traffic light because they are stuck once they turned out from the USJ2 traffic light since the rest of the cars are queuing up at the SS19 traffic light. I think when SS19 traffic light should turn green for a while to let the cars get moving then only let the USJ2 traffic light turn green. Of course the green light at SS19 should stay longer than the one in USJ2.

3. Quickly construct the alternate road linking from USJ3/USJ12 to Subang Hi-Tech Park. I think this will divert some of the traffic to using that road.

Evening
1. The only bottleneck in the evening actually caused by the traffic wanted to turn into SS19. As u can see, most of the time, the traffic would be quite smooth flowing after the SS19 traffic light. What we can consider here is to build a small flyover to allow the car turning into SS19 without any obstruction. (If anyone been to Penang, I am talking about the similar one lane flyover at Greenlane, turning into Lam Wah Ee hospital). This on the other hand, will also smoothen the traffic heading towards Federal Highway caused the traffic light at SS19 can be removed! :)

These are my point of view. Maybe others may have more brilliant ideas. Hope we can help our busy politician who may be currently planning for the coming GE to resolve some issue faced by the residence in USJ.

CCY
05-04-2007, 11:02 AM
For crying out loud....Is our traffic light timing , moving , evolving with the changing times n traffic volumes ...

Or still stuck with age old rigid , dumb timings of the 60's or 70's. It is not a complete solution if all fours are congested but how often do you find that it is not so and you start to see that the timings are at fault. Where are all the intelligence being use ?
Is there nothing that can be done to relieve some pain n save a bit of petrol while a cure is yet to be implemented 20 yrs from now.

evelynlim
05-04-2007, 11:55 AM
New3......if you are unaware , wait till this pedestrian crossing is in full operation and if it is not done properly , not only blood pressure goes up but can oso vomit blood wan.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=14296&page=4

I don't think it is for pedestrian crossing as I don't see any button at the traffic light pillar. It might be for cars coming out from SS19 to turn to USJ as there was a "traffic light panel" facing towards SS 19. Be prepared.

chsum
05-04-2007, 01:57 PM
err.. mammoth, soory to disagree with some of ur view on traffic,

morning, actually the bottle neck is at SS19 junction, u solve that junction u solve the traffic problem along jln tujuan unless traffic back up all the way from federal highway, one way is a flyover into SS19 or a u-turn underpass under the bridge onto kesas then back into SS19 (u have to demolish some houses :eek: ) or remove the school there then u get peace on earth :)

evening, the bottleneck is at USJ2 traffic light, the only solution to this problem is to close the u-turn at the junction n built a proper u-turn (with non stop flow) after the traffic light where it's wider.

no matter how many flyover, underpass n u-turn u built, as long as there r tolled roads, jln tujuan will still be jamed as it's the only toll free access to toll free highway to KL, so lobby for all the toll b abolish then u will really get peace on earth.

my 2 sens

cutebanana
05-04-2007, 08:36 PM
there is already a solution to this problem. that is to get up very early and get to work before anyone else and return from work after everyone else. simple.

sly
05-04-2007, 08:49 PM
there is already a solution to this problem. that is to get up very early and get to work before anyone else and return from work after everyone else. simple.

eh cutebanana...u know me meh? i always do that ma...from the day i graduated from college until now...old man liao.... :D i seldom stuck in usj jam..... :D but i'm confused cos the road is alr jam since my college time....sigh....

birdy
05-04-2007, 08:56 PM
u cutebanana is talking banana. If everyone gets up early ... the traffic will still jam.

chsum got the point....the bottleneck is at SS19. But the junction at USJ3 also packed. This could probably due to the traffic built up from sS19 traffic light. The easiest is the remove the traffic light at SS19, making it smooth flowing all the way to Federal Highway.

wira wan
05-04-2007, 11:53 PM
Welcome to Ultra Super Jam

I been staying here before KESAS, LDP and Pantai Highway was build.

The situation was a lot worst, when there were 3 traffic lights in distant of 100m in front of SS19.

Yes, those was the good old days (pun intended) :D , whereby you have to drive like there's no tomorrow to get out of USJ, and getting call to the boss office to explain why one is always late for work.

Be there, done there, still here. :D

Teeque
06-04-2007, 01:46 AM
...The easiest is the remove the traffic light at SS19, making it smooth flowing all the way to Federal Highway.
in any case, that would be the best solution of all this mess.

but lo n behold, the town planners thought otherwise and hv installed an extra set of lights so that vehicles frm ss19/6 can now turn right towards usj where previously, they hv done away with this usj turn at the shell junction. what bloody 'brilliant' brains these mpsj planners hv....

yokeimm
06-04-2007, 09:38 AM
sigh!! Too many vehicles on the roads of USJ/Subang Jaya. and to think some people are asking to add to these numbers by introducing more "opening". My family and i have lived here for the last 16 years, we'll probably live here for the next 20,in congestion. We cannot live elsewhere, because we cannot afford the cost of a new home, or to lose the convenience sj/usj offers and most of all situation of road congestion is a familiar pain in the rear everywhere else. if some place boasts of not having such problems, the developer is talking bullocks. sooner or later, congestion will rear its ugly head. we can only try temporary solutions. and we hope that the local council, the town planners and us can device and execute a plan, which is agreeable by all to eliviate the current situation. that is if the local council listens. i am ranting. my apologies. its friday and i am bored. bored with the traffic i have to drive through when i get home from office this evening. Argh!!!!!

roger_that
24-04-2007, 06:13 PM
have u guys observed that the traffic light at the ss19 junction has been set that all incoming vehicles towards usj have to stop at red light? last time the traffic light was set only for those vehicles wanting to turn right to ss19. what are MPSJ thinking?? :rolleyes:

JoeJaffar
24-04-2007, 06:41 PM
pedestrian crossing.

Eastern Citizen
24-04-2007, 06:41 PM
have u guys observed that the traffic light at the ss19 junction has been set that all incoming vehicles towards usj have to stop at red light? last time the traffic light was set only for those vehicles wanting to turn right to ss19. what are MPSJ thinking?? :rolleyes:
Actually, traffic along Jalan Tujuan was at least moving in the evenings up to the USJ 2 / USJ 4 / USJ 5 traffic lights for a few short months until this happened. Also, on a completely different note, why is the road after the bridge as you are entering USJ called Persiaran Tujuan when the road separating USJ 3 and USJ 4 is also called Persiaran Tujuan????? Which moron decided to name 2 roads Persiaran Tujuan????

evelynlim
25-04-2007, 11:32 AM
pedestrian crossing.
I know there is one pedestrian bridge in front of the school before the SS19 traffic light but why can't another pedestrian bridge being build there in view that more people will cross between SS18 & SS19 shop houses as the one in front of the school might be a bit far away. Just imagine hundred of cars need to stop for a few pedestrian crossing at each different time and the impact on the jam especially during peak hours. Is the cost of building the pedestrian bridge very high? But millions of ringgit can be spent on other things... :rolleyes:

birdy
25-04-2007, 11:52 AM
As usual-lar....waiting for some corporate company to sponsor...if not wait till general election is approaching. :D

Actually.... they can permanently make those wanted to turn into SS19 to make a U-Turn at the USJ2/3 traffic light and turn ... this way, I believe would ease the traffic flow since the traffic will be more smooth flowing. Alternatively, they may make it for peak hours only, allowing the turning during weekends and/or late at night. :rolleyes:

I know this may create unneccessary hassle for SS19 residents as well as those parents picking up their children at SS19 schools but I am sure they face the same hassles too queuing up at the SS19 traffic light to turn.

orchipalar
26-04-2007, 04:42 PM
Also, on a completely different note, why is the road after the bridge as you are entering USJ called Persiaran Tujuan when the road separating USJ 3 and USJ 4 is also called Persiaran Tujuan????? Which moron decided to name 2 roads Persiaran Tujuan????Err buddy...that's actually called...Jalan Tujuan.

concern!!!
09-05-2007, 11:48 PM
y cant they(mpsj) build a pedestrian bridge instead of installing the traffic light at the ss19 junction? i thought the SIGNAGE INC still owe mpsj many "bridge" for the signage contract in return? y not build 1 there?

kevin23
10-05-2007, 12:03 AM
Was staying here since The Valley Club in SS 19 was still operating.That time no jam at all.All so peaceful and quiet.So nice to drive around.Now because the population of not only USJ but subang is becoming larger every month,the roads cant cope with the increase.No road widening will solve the problem because cars just keep on increasing every month.The only solution is to make LRT available.Even that also does not guarantee smoother flowing traffic.Looks like there is no cure to the traffic in USJ.


Welcome to Ultra Super Jam

I been staying here before KESAS, LDP and Pantai Highway was build.

The situation was a lot worst, when there were 3 traffic lights in distant of 100m in front of SS19.

Yes, those was the good old days (pun intended) :D , whereby you have to drive like there's no tomorrow to get out of USJ, and getting call to the boss office to explain why one is always late for work.

Be there, done there, still here. :D

CCY
10-05-2007, 09:54 AM
y cant they(mpsj) build a pedestrian bridge instead of installing the traffic light at the ss19 junction?

It's a question that will not get any answer. The siting of the existing pedestrian bridge is also questionable. If it is another 100+ meter nearer to the shell station it would have serve more pedestrian.
Another thing is that I think it is never in their mind of improving or mitigating the jammed condition at traffic light junction. How often do you have to wait a minute or 2 in light unsaturated , unbalanced traffic volumes condition.
In another words , how adaptive is our traffic light to changing traffic volume pattern over the day ? Any answers other than continue burning fuel. Who cares....MPSJ...? Far from it.

chsum
10-05-2007, 01:55 PM
err.. u guys seems to ave a short memory, ss19 juntion used to ave a set of traffic lights that allows pedestrian to walk across the road, the overhead bridge was built to cater for the school childred to cross from ss19 to ss18 n vice versa. ;)

my 0.02 sen

kokomo
10-05-2007, 06:52 PM
Every morning gotta use this route to get out of Subang then either to NKVE or Federal then back into LDP. Sigh! Today's jam was horrible. I also notice going out of Subang that way or coming in that way also same. Equally as bad, not only bottleneck but all drivers are neck to neck, bumper to bumper. I wonder if I use Summit road in the morning say around 9.15am to 9.30am would it be as bad as the other side?

This is really bad and not healthy. Wanting to go off from office also have to wait till the traffic is cleared. Everyday is a waitin' and getting stuck in the jam game.

concern!!!
10-05-2007, 07:43 PM
seems that we have no more choice .. just choose between persiaran kewajipan or tujuan ...which is equally JAM

kokomo
10-05-2007, 09:56 PM
There are jam every road and everywhere in the morning. Actually, wif the jams and bad traffic all ... I've yet to turn up for work late. So is the jam and bumper to bumper that we see that scares us. ITs just a slow moving traffic.

Just now coming back, I should have used Sunway then go out the main road thru the flyover down ss18 then back to USJ but no, I took a nearer alternative which is actually worst. Bad choice I made today.

kwchang
11-05-2007, 12:21 AM
if you are going to NKVE, why not try going out Puchong exit of USJ, get to the Elite highway and turn north towards Shah Alam. Takes you to the NKVE. Pay more toll but usually smooth run to the NKVE after the short jam right after exiting USJ due to the queue at the lights to Hicom Shah Alam.

kokomo
11-05-2007, 11:34 AM
Chang, that would mean taking a big turn about to enter back into NKVE to go Damansara. Haha .. and from Hicom there that would be a greater jam than in Subang. Seriously!

TiNKeRFY
11-05-2007, 12:22 PM
Well, another solution is to leave the house earlier lor probably at 6:45am..
then you even got time to go for dimsum.. :D

kwchang
11-05-2007, 12:27 PM
Chang, that would mean taking a big turn about to enter back into NKVE to go Damansara. Haha .. and from Hicom there that would be a greater jam than in Subang. Seriously!
Longer travel but faster since no SJ jam to tackle. I was doing that for years when I was working in D'sara Heights. Distance about 10km more but shaves half an hour off my travelling time - think of the petrol saved.

By the way, you don't go to Hicom. Right after getting out of the USJ-Puchong exit near USJ20, you turn right and get caught up with some jam at the traffic lights - but you move to the left lane slowly (where the Hindu temples are) and slip to the toll gates that join the Elite highway after which you bear right to head towards Subang and the NKVE.

fRaNkY
11-05-2007, 12:38 PM
Well, another solution is to leave the house earlier lor probably at 6:45am..
then you even got time to go for dimsum.. :D

After two years... high cholestrol :D

Either stress from traffic will kill u or dimsum will :eek:

So when are we going to eat Dimsum :p

kokomo
11-05-2007, 01:19 PM
Longer travel but faster since no SJ jam to tackle. I was doing that for years when I was working in D'sara Heights. Distance about 10km more but shaves half an hour off my travelling time - think of the petrol saved.

By the way, you don't go to Hicom. Right after getting out of the USJ-Puchong exit near USJ20, you turn right and get caught up with some jam at the traffic lights - but you move to the left lane slowly (where the Hindu temples are) and slip to the toll gates that join the Elite highway after which you bear right to head towards Subang and the NKVE.

My working hour starts later but still will be stucked in the jam like everyone else. Taking toll everyday is not like last time anymore. Will feel the pain man (on my wallet I mean).

Ok, heres' what I want to find out now. Coming out from D'msara after working hour and the jam are horrendous. So can anyone recommend a short cut to get back to Subang? Cos taking the NKVE toll is the worst jam then comes LDP. I can't think of any other route at the moment. But I do know in PJ have a lot of shortcuts in most places.

Teeque
12-05-2007, 03:18 AM
kokomo, the shortest cuts to subang is thru all available highways ma. why? becos subang is surrounded by highways! and all access are into highways, u name it - Fed Hwy, Kesas, LDP, Elite, NPE. just take which one thats less jam ler. next year, another highway coming into subang, the subang-kelana link, which i envision will also be jam becos of the jam at kewajipan. subang is memang jam township now. i was coming home ard 10pm yday nite and tujuan was jammed up all the way into Fed Hwy, worst than during evening peak hour jam. the road just cant cope with the traffic and the traffic lights at ss19/lick hung made it worst. not even one year after completion of NPE flyover at ss19, cannot cope already. and LHB said then that its a rm400mil soluiton to the jam situation at tujuan. now how, brown cow???

kokomo
13-05-2007, 10:56 PM
Today evening the rain was esp extra super heavy. Don't know what is wrong wif the weather these days. IT took me almost more than an hour from MRR2 to be back to Subang. Heavy rain, flood on every lil corner, cars slowing down, visions are blur.

Whatever routes we take these days also pointless. I'd say keep to our own lane, move according to the speed and must say some people during weekdays and when everyone is on the rush to get to work, some will just drive as though its a weekend joyride. :mad: