Jln Kewajipan Construction

[Boink]

Hello.

Could anyone tell me what the construction that is going on is about?

The Mesiniaga/SJMC construction is for the Federal Highway link.

What about the construction that is going on along kewajipan between SS14 and the flats? Whats that for?

Many thanks.

[wira wan]

I also would like to know the reason.

Maybe somebody want to bring in more traffic coming in to USJ, and create a "Mother of All Jam" at the cross road near Summit/Giant.

Then propose a highway to solve the jam, build tollbooths to collect money from those staying in Subang Jaya and USJ.

[hhtee]

in all LEGAL construction of buildings there's a signboard stating what's going on. did anyone see one for Zakaria's palace?

[Nowiam]

http://www.azrb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=116&Itemid=175
or
http://tinyurl.com/352abh

Highway from the Subang Airport road, across the Federal highway along Kewajipan, through the roundabout and along the road between SS14/flats, in and out of SJ. Alternative exit ...

... or another parking lot ...

[Boink]

Thanks fo the reply.

PCYeoh thanks for the PM.

The flyover is really really going to be very high, the existing kewajipan/sunway turn off is already 5/6 stories high.

Will the flyover actually reach the summit juction?

[USJ27Resident]

The flyover is really really going to be very high, the existing kewajipan/sunway turn off is already 5/6 stories high....

well... at least there are no earthquakes here... (yet!) :eek: , if anyone falls off/drives off that flyover - it'll be fast n furious in 2 sec flat (pun intended!)... :p

[AllUrban]

Thanks fo the reply.

PCYeoh thanks for the PM.

The flyover is really really going to be very high, the existing kewajipan/sunway turn off is already 5/6 stories high.

Will the flyover actually reach the summit juction?It is supposed to come down at the Kompleks 3K.

I wonder how this will happen. If it comes down in the middle of the road, then there will be horrible jam...and even worse, the highway will not be able to be extended!

If the highway stays up but two ramps are built...then the highway could be extended in the future...which will probably be necessary.

I also wonder how the connection with the KESAS highway will be designed. Ideally there should be direct ramps but this will be impossible.

My suggestion...to reduce jam on kewajipan at the KESAS interchange

1) restrict the Kewajipan-KESAS interchange to left turns only.
2) build elevated u-turn ramps (like the ones on the LDP in Puchong) on KESAS, to the east and west of Kewajipan
2a) all drivers who want to access/exit KESAS by making a right turn, must make a left turn first, then use the U-turn (this is a variation on a "Michigan Left" turn)

Ex. Kewjipan (USJ bound) to KESAS West (Shah Alam) bound
*take left side ramp
*enter KESAS East (KL bound)
*enter U-turn over KESAS highway
*enter take KESAS west

EX. Kewajipan (SJ bound) to KESAS west (Shah Alam) bound
*take left side ramp

3) build exit ramp from KESAS westbound to USJ1
4) build entrance and exit ramp on Jalan Tujuan
5) build direct ramp between Subang Kelana Link (USJ bound) and KESAS (KL bound)

With the three ramps and the new exit, the lights at the interchange will be closed...the jam will be on the highway and to the left side lanes of kewajipan, not on kewajipan itself.

Cheers, m

[Nowiam]

Your suggestions may be good or not, it does not matter. You have to realise that the Contract has been given out MYR300million or so of it, and more so it is underway. Any changes means $$$$$$. Who will stick their neck out to change something major? No one.

Because big changes need justification means needs money to carry out a study needed to overturn any existing design, to justify paying engineers to redesign and contractors to reschedule.

I don't mean to put anyone down, just pointing out the facts of life in building large infrastructure. It is naive to think otherwise.

In my opinion stopping the link at 3K is counterproductive, as most of the traffic wants to go INTO USJ and onto Puching etc. All it will do is bring the traffic in all its volume up to the KESAS highway and bottleneck there. Then it will be a large parking lot from the Subang road to KESAS ....

But the powers that be have fixed the works and that is it. Nothing will change that now, silly as it may be.

[chsum]

What allurban suggest is good n it will help in reduce the jam in that area but we need to look at the big picture, no matter how many flyover or uturn ramp we built, if there r less jam, more cars from klang, kota kemuning, Putra Jaya, Shah Alam will come in through SJ n USJ to avoid paying toll, u will still end up in square one.
The only solution i can think of is to abolish all toll road (kesas, NPE, Plus, LDP etc..), instead of building flyover, use the money to pay off toll operator then only u get peace on earth :D
Do u know that Subang Jaya is the only town which is serviced by 5 highways? :eek:

my dua sens

[firefox]

Do u know that Subang Jaya is the only town which is serviced by 5 highways? :eek:

my dua sens

Is this the reason why they say SJ/USJ is one the most polluted town in Selangor,? and what when these new higways become operational.

[AllUrban]

Is this the reason why they say SJ/USJ is one the most polluted town in Selangor,? and what when these news higways become operational.Funny thing is that the Kewajipan construction chased me out of SS12...to SS17...So I wouldnt be suprised...

In fact, this may be unrelated...but every morning I walk 3 km from home (in SS17) to work (in SS15)...and every afternoon I walk back home.

I recently noticed that in the mornings, I only start to sweat when I get to the corner of SS15 that has the colleges, the traffic jams, and the concrete.

In SS17 (tree covered streets, no cars), I feel like the weather is cool (relatively) and occasionally breezy...

In the areas of SS15 where there are no cars, I dont feel hot

When I get to the area with the jams...I start to sweat.

Jams, more heat, more pollution....Everything adds up, and more thoughtless development and more concrete doesnt help.

Im guessing that when this First Subang project is finished, I will start to sweat as soon as I cross Jalan Jengka into SS15.

Cheers, m

[Boink]

I peronally think that if a reasonable peak hour toll of fifty cents on all tolls ithin KL, we could get traffic flowing in the correct roads at the correct times.

[firefox]

oh dear! i do feel sorry for you, Allurban but i find walking in and out SS18 rather cool and pleasant especially after 7.00pm

[Yah]

No jam or less jam during school holidays..the urban planner must investigate this angle. (1) Parent sending their kid to school causing jam
(2) Que jumpers
(3) inconsiderate parking
(4)narrow road.
(5) Car dumping
(6) hawkers
(7)eating table on the road
(8) lack enforcement
(9) mpsj sleeping
(10) etc etc...

[CCY]

No jam or less jam during school holidays..the urban planner must investigate this angle. (1) Parent sending their kid to school causing jam
(2) Que jumpers
(3) inconsiderate parking
(4)narrow road.
(5) Car dumping
(6) hawkers
(7)eating table on the road
(8) lack enforcement
(9) mpsj sleeping
(10) etc etc...


....(8) ...is the cause of all the rest growing...except 1 n maybe some etc..etc.

[RobotdeNiro]

We need trams

[jojoC10]

i think i finally realised that what really subang jaya n usj ppl needs is LRT or good public transport system .... more links only will bring more cars and more jam ... more u turn n more fly over oso not really help out ... its only helps the highway operator or toll collector to have more reason to increase the toll charge ...

i'm sure most of us know that .... our traffic condition at usj n subang during sunday morning before 12 noon .... it is very different from weekdays ... is only happend when we had reduce the car volumn on the road .... that's y to reduce the jam we must have public transportation system that efficiantly operate ....

[wsl]

Building more flyovers, ramps, u-turn etc will only relieve the jam temporary. Once ppl realise the ease in traffic, more drivers will start to use these roads and hence resulting more jams. The best way is to create more rapid public transport such as LRTs, etc. These will move ppl quickly and is a more efficient way of travelling.

As for the present LRT, they need to increase the number of trains especially during peak period. Its always like sardine and at some stops, the train can only take in 1 or 2 additional passengers. This is definitely not efficient.

[firefox]

I think Malaysia must stop producing cars so cheap and affordable, ah! then we will have less traffic jams and less highways. Otherwise live with the traffic jams and what not...you cant have the cake and eat it.

[Nowiam]

Our cars are cheap and affordable!?!

Sorry lah, by our comparison to our annual salaries the cars here are very expensive. People elsewhere pay like half years salary at most for a typical family sedan (not luxury of course), but here it is at least one years salary or more for most.

We don't have cheap cars. We just got used to the high prices. Like boiling frog in a container.

But I would agree with you if you say we should curtail cheap and easy credit terms to buy cars ... 9 year repayments etc are what driving the sales IMO.

[xaviers]

No need just the following IMHO.. would help

- reduce the taxes and excise on cars
- total removal the subsidy on petrol, wanna drive pay the cost. diesel can still be subsidised for business
- create a city tax and force businesses to move out of KL


how can ...don't want jam, don't want to move out of the city.

[Boink]

Does anyone think this will work?

RM 0.50 on all tolls during peak traffic hours?

[Nowiam]

As an example can compare with our southern neighbour. They have gantries on all major highways, and they 'adjust' the toll (called ERP) on each one according to the traffic. They have a benchmark, say peak hour must have x km/hr average if not they adjust toll up, then if ok, they adjust it down to the base level.

But PLEASE note, they have alternatives for People who can elect to use public transport.

In our situation, we will never be able to find ONE SINGLE solution. It must be A System. We are already far behind the curve, and the longer we talk and not act, we will never catch up with the curve.

Please compare as example how far we have fallen behind, if you go to China, all the large cities have better MRT/LRT kind facilities than us. How come, they started from behind ... now overtake already. Even our northern neighbour has firm plans for more infrastructure in Bangkok than we do in KL.