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PeterHng
05-01-2007, 01:44 PM
One of the interesting correlation mentioned was "frequent consumption of refined starchy foods, eggs and fat-rich foods such as cheese and red meat is a risk factor for colorectal cancer." I am as guilty as I just loved meat especially red meat.. :(:(


What you should know about colorectal cancer
Nick Josh K Karean
Jan 5, 07 11:30am

COLORECTAL cancer is a deadly disease that's on the rise - and evidence indicates that it's caused by consuming beef, chicken, eggs, milk, and other animal foods. Colorectal cancer is the fourth most common cancer and the second-largest cause of cancer death in the US alone.

The article appeared in Malaysiakini (http://www.malaysiakini.com/opinionfeatures/61695)

perceval
05-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Let's just all eat only vege from now on. :p

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 02:10 PM
How I wish it's so easy to switch over to veges after many years of meat/fats abuse... :o:p

(Incidentally if we were to read the Book of Daniel Chapter 1 (I mean in the Holy Bible), we'd see how Daniel and his 3 friends fared much much better as they were on veges diet throughout... Just a thot ;) )

mon
05-01-2007, 03:02 PM
Amen ok. :p

I would still think eating a balanced diet is best, but once in a while, go for detox by having just juice, really does wonders to one's well being.

But me no problem with just vege for even a week, anyone tried?

oh yes, for meat lovers, roll your cheese with ham as snacks. Real yummy. :P

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 03:09 PM
I made it a point to have vege on every meal I had (except breakfast and supper:p).. as for detox it's not my cup of coffee yet:) Well I hope to have more of vege and less of meat even though just had mutton for lunch:o:o but with two veges wor.. can:)

Andersen
05-01-2007, 03:15 PM
I dun know if detox would really work against cancer. It's like saying one consumes so much meat to the point of developing and generating cancerous cells, and then goes for detox which would then 'cure' or stop the growth of these mutated cells. I think moderation is still the best...but hard to carry out.

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 03:24 PM
I think the cancer issue is a very complex one. I for one, don't think detox can cure cancer but I sure think it's the prevention that would safe life.

Some scientists believed that some cancer cells were already in our body the day we were borned. Some kind of abnormalities of cells formation. some cancer cells formed due to environmental pollution and also due to what we consumed.

Anyway it's always better to eat a balance diet as Mon has said. Less of meat especially the red type.

Andersen
05-01-2007, 03:33 PM
Some scientists believed that some cancer cells were already in our body the day we were borned. Some kind of abnormalities of cells formation. some cancer cells formed due to environmental pollution and also due to what we consumed.

This is often quoted by many people but do they know the true meaning or implication of the finding? It is nothing groundbreaking. There may be mutated cells in our bodies, just as there are people with physical deformities beginning in their mothers' womb. To say that we all have cancer cells in our body is to sensationalise the finding. It is more important to determine if these 'cancer cells' (i prefer to call these mutated cells) are malignant...which then becomes the killer disease which we all dread.

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 03:42 PM
if we believed this borned with cancer cells thingy too much, we may end up like the movie "Minority report" by Tom Cruise.... we'd be terminated before our time.. ;)

The article in Malaysiakini ended as follows :

So, before you bite into that next burger, nugget, sliced pepperoni pizza, and/or other meaty foods, including milk and eggs, consider this: Do you really want to spend your final days, or witness the final days of a loved one suffering from the pain and agony of colon, rectal, or some other lethal cancer? If not, grab a vegan/vegetarian cookbook and learn to live while letting others live also with the help of great, tasty, and healthful recipes that you will love much more than that greasy box of nuggets and that slimy shake. Bon appetit!

Andersen
05-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Peter, you got me worried now. I had greasy beefburgers and fries for 4 consecutive meals last weekend. :eek:

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 03:47 PM
me worried too.. I had meats for all my meals and lately a lot of mutton at that... ;)

mon
05-01-2007, 03:49 PM
Before you bite into your next burger, should you also think of the cow?

But you're right, eating in moderation is the key. Too much of a good thing in excess seldom works. And put in a little effort to exercise too, and be happy.

happy foruming. Back to work. :P

Andersen
05-01-2007, 03:52 PM
Din know eating has become such a stressful activity. Have to think of cancer, fats, cellulite...and now have to spare a thought to the cow. Haha.

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 03:56 PM
.... be happy.


I think the key word here is to "be happy" and keep the stress away from our daily lives.

I read an article some years ago about a small village in inland Russia (forgot the name of the village) where they have a lot of old people with majority old people above 80 yrs old and they were mostly healthy even though their past time was puffing away tobacco.:) The key to their longetivity and good health was no stress and live happily:) as I remember that article wrote.

Life Ranger
05-01-2007, 04:14 PM
Recently bought a book written by a Doctor in US who used to be a modern Doctor but started to practise accupuncture 30 years ago. He is 80 yr old old. This book reported his past 30 years' result and proof of the amazing curing effect of the ancient legacy, without operations and medicines.

This is a recent report regarding a lady who cured herself of stomach cancer by the method of accupuncture (no needle, just massaging though)...
http://www.guangming.com.my/content.phtml?sec=865&sdate=&artid=200612310031

PeterHng
05-01-2007, 04:23 PM
Life Ranger, can you please translate the article into English as I can't find the article in the English section? it'd be interesting to know about accupuncture.

My sister who's residing in Toronto, Canada went all the way to China interior few years back to learn from an accupuncture Master for 3 months beside the few years earlier she took up the art in Toronto itself..

Seemed that the western countries are accepting and coming to a stage of recognising the accupuncture as a branch of medicine.

Life Ranger
05-01-2007, 05:25 PM
(the Penang news)

After the Shanghai well-known nature therapy master Chen Yu Ing gave birth to a child at 40 years old found her stomach uncomfortable. After she got the stomach examined,

(Admin note - this article is translated from http://www.guangming.com.my/content.phtml?sec=865&sdate=&artid=200612310031 and the website has a copyright notice. Hence I have to delete the post so as not to violate any copyrights )

To be continued.....

Ullas Sahadevan
05-01-2007, 06:03 PM
I think the key word here is to "be happy" and keep the stress away from our daily lives...The key to their longetivity and good health was no stress and live happily:) as I remember that article wrote.I don't think just being HAPPY and consuming a lot of food classified as cancer causing will reduce your risk of getting cancer. Yes, stress does lead to a lot of diseases but Cancer would be a very biological thing. But yea, if you are UNHAPPY then it doesn't matter whether you eat; lead or arsenic or red meat :)

What causes cancer? A group of cells dividing uncontrollably which disturbs the delicate balance between old cells dying and new ones being formed. When these cells divide at an abnormal rate, they form lumps or tumors. When tumors are benign they are called tumors. When they are malignant, they are called cancer. Most cancers can be cured, if detected earlier. If the cancerous cells get into your bloodstream or lymphatic system it gets a lil tougher then...

Hope that was helpful.

PeterHng
06-01-2007, 09:17 PM
Thanks Life Ranger for your translation and very nice article..

Very informative Ullas Sahadevan...

:) :)

kwchang
07-01-2007, 01:20 AM
If I remember what little I learnt at my Cytology classes - all our cells have a molecular switch that stops it from dividing (growing) when the neighbouring cells start getting crowded. This is a biological feedback mechanism that stops unnecessary cell-division. However, abnormal cells somehow have lost the biological switch and continue to divide and multiply - thus we get tumours and cancers. Such mishaps may be due to errors in the genetic material as a result of carcinogens and radiation. It may also be caused by viruses which usually hijack the cellular genetic mechanism to produce more viruses.

How does acupuncture correct this cellular abnormality? I don't know but I am suspicious if it is as simple a cure as that. As a result of such stories, we hear of people flocking to China for last-resort cures, spend a lot of money and end up worse due to the poorer and less advanced medical facilities in China.

For those of you past 40, please make it a point to have a colorectal examination in the form of a colonoscopy (Doctors in the Forum please correct me) - this may cost around RM1,000 per examination and takes less than 15 minutes. It is especially important if you have close family members who have had colorectal cancers. Prevention or early detection is the best cure.

palmdoc
07-01-2007, 11:18 AM
About too-good-to-be-true stories of "cures" you read about, do be sceptical. Was the diagnosis correct in the first place? Were there any other factors involved?

Anyway, regarding colorectal cancer screening, you might want to read this post
Are you the picture of health? (http://medicine.com.my/wp/?p=1749)

You might also read our viewpoints on
The question of Chinese traditional medicine (http://medicine.com.my/wp/?p=1619)

Even in China there are now sceptics (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061111.wxmedicine11/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home)

Life Ranger
08-01-2007, 11:48 AM
The story continues....



(Admin note - this article is translated from http://www.guangming.com.my/content.phtml?sec=865&sdate=&artid=200612310031 and the website has a copyright notice. Hence I have to delete the post so as not to violate any copyrights )


To be continued.....

Life Ranger
08-01-2007, 04:42 PM
Ok, let me just recapitulate the report briefly for those who are ieterested in the article :

Madam Chen suffered from Stomach Cancer some 20 years ago. She could afford neither western nor chinese traditional medicine. She resorted to medicine-free accupuncture by studying herself diligently. She did not use needle but chopstick and then finger to massage the Tan Zhonggo {膻中穴} acupuncture point (namely the center point between the two nipples on the chest). Since then she lives healthyly till now without stepping into the hospital again.

She advised that not to simply let children take drugs like cold medicine when ill since it suppresses the body's natural detoxification processes such as sneezes, running noses, fever and purging. Instead try to massage the Feng Chi {風池穴} accupuncture point and take some herbal medicine. If cold medicine is taken and suppresses the cold qi in the lungs, the lungs will be too prosperous resulting in the degeneration of choleresis and hypocrinism thus affecting the child's growth.

PeterHng
08-01-2007, 04:49 PM
Thanks again Life Ranger for the effort. Even though I dun see any wrong (copyright infringement) in your translation but we got to abide by the rules... :o

Anyway, it's refreshing to know we have alternatives to the "terminal" diseases that have been plaguing our society and the world at large. Like KWChang said, it's good to have the colonscopy check for those above 40s. Early detection could save lives.. (including breast cancer). Thanks.. :):):)

palmdoc
10-01-2007, 05:01 AM
You swallow that story whole? Hook line and sinker?

birdy
10-01-2007, 06:50 AM
Let's just all eat only vege from now on. :p
Vege also contains pesticide, which can be harmful to our body too.... unless u go for organic vege. :o

PeterHng
10-01-2007, 04:19 PM
There's another article in The Star today by the expert, Dr Milton Lum on Breast Cancer..

Treating breast cancer

By DR MILTON LUM

This week’s article examines how breast cancer is diagnosed and treated.

MOST breast lumps are detected by women themselves. By being familiar with the usual contour, feel and shape of your breasts, it will make it easier for you to notice any changes. You may find regular monthly breast self- examinations useful.

The rest of the Article (http://www.thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?file=/2007/1/10/health/16509244&sec=health)