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cpleong
17-12-2006, 09:59 PM
Folks,
The drain outside my house a perpetual pond for toads to breed. Needless to say, during rainy season, there's plenty of toads around to share the night scene, karaoking late into the nite.

The thing is, lately the drain has been filled with eggs, and they have turned into tadpoles, with some sprouting little small legs.

It'll be great if someone can help advise what is the best way to rid these tadpoles chemically. (Please note : This drainage system around my neighbourhood has no outflow to anywhere. It stops at a squarish culvert which is an end in itself. So therefore, it is perpetually "clogged").

It is impossible to fish them out of the drain as the drain itself is clogged with plastics, branches, leaves and what have yous.

Would appreciate it very much if anyone can share how to rid these tadpoles. I've tried spraying them with malathion, and "Clean Up" but to no avail.

No cheers.

orchipalar
17-12-2006, 10:50 PM
Err buddy...please reconsider what ya intend to do with them tadpoles n frogs...

Ahem...they can be your buddies...keeping the mosquitoes n flies menace in check...

rrrriiiiibbiiitt...!

hhtee
18-12-2006, 12:25 AM
couldn't help it but if you heard of kirchoff's law, the sum of current entering a system must be sum of going out. similarly, since people nove out (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=16230 ) tadpoleS move in

coleslaw
18-12-2006, 12:06 PM
release a few oscar fish and it will eat up the tadpoles.

kfboy
18-12-2006, 12:19 PM
Leave the tadpoles there if you are a golfer. They are good golf practice when they become toad....

*don't take it seriously*

munity
18-12-2006, 03:20 PM
coleslaw is right. i think put in any kind of tough surviving fish in the pond would do the trick.
it's lucky that its not aedes that are breeding in the pond.

orchipalar
18-12-2006, 03:32 PM
release a few oscar fish and it will eat up the tadpoles.Err buddy...the stray cats would love your idea...

hhtee
18-12-2006, 05:30 PM
I believe whatever happens in nature there is always a cause for it.

If you notice, recently there were deaths due to dengue fever. This is because of the heavy rain. Due to heavy rain, water gets stagnant and mosquitos breed. At the same time, it's good for the frogs to reproduce their offspring. Since there will be loads of mosquitos, let the frogs do their job.

The frogs will die their natural death.

Perhaps from crows eating them blah blah blah

then the crows will also die.... blah blah blah

they will be on the ground and fertile the earth blah blah blah

and with the fertile earth, we have vegetbles.... blah blah blah

with vegetables, we eat and survive blah blah blah

we reproduce, teach our ofspring to use the computer and surf the net especially www.usj.com.my and read this particular thread in usj.com.my http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=197735 .... blah blah blah

LOL

fRaNkY
19-12-2006, 12:08 AM
Perhaps you can dump them at the flooded abandoned place across giant.... or at usj 11... where aedes breeds :D

Leave them alone... they do more good than bad. :) at least no aedes around usj3a.

hhtee
20-12-2006, 12:10 AM
if I have the time. I would catch some tadpoles & cook it in different ways& perhaps open a stall (next to nasi lemaK stalls or some othe stalls) & sell this "food" .

fRaNkY
20-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Can eat meh? :D

Always thought "budu" made from berudu... hehehe

hhtee
21-12-2006, 09:04 AM
I don't know whether can be eaten.

but from what I have eaten, I have eaten frogs. I don't see anything wrong with eating baby frogs.... haha

hhtee
21-12-2006, 09:10 AM
Tadpoles can serve as an indication if the change of the environment (construction, development, etc.) affects them. For instance, tadpoles with extra legs were reported ( http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/froglegs.html ).

Well, I would also think that if your other pets e.g. dogs drink from a container with tadpoles, you should be relieve because if the tadpoles are swimming in them, I am sure the water is safe for drinking. You see, my bitch :) keeps drinking from a container of water with loads of tadpoles in them.

willi
21-12-2006, 11:20 AM
..... my bitch :) keeps drinking from a container of water with loads of tadpoles in them.

hhtee - you meant that you do not replenish the drinking water for the dog on daily basis :confused:

chin_wan
21-12-2006, 11:58 AM
release a few oscar fish and it will eat up the tadpoles.


Err buddy...the stray cats would love your idea...

Then use cheap fish la...talapia.

kfboy
21-12-2006, 12:29 PM
Tadpoles can serve as an indication if the change of the environment (construction, development, etc.) affects them. For instance, tadpoles with extra legs were reported ( http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/froglegs.html ).

Well, I would also think that if your other pets e.g. dogs drink from a container with tadpoles, you should be relieve because if the tadpoles are swimming in them, I am sure the water is safe for drinking. You see, my bitch :) keeps drinking from a container of water with loads of tadpoles in them.

I heard of mutated tadpoles/frogs too. They are very sensitive to the environment. Try dumping in a smoke alarm (it has radioactive substance) in the drain, I bet the next day you will see grow in the dark tadpoles.. :D

fRaNkY
21-12-2006, 12:54 PM
Well, I would also think that if your other pets e.g. dogs drink from a container with tadpoles, you should be relieve because if the tadpoles are swimming in them, I am sure the water is safe for drinking. You see, my bitch :) keeps drinking from a container of water with loads of tadpoles in them.

Hopefully your dog do not grow an extra leg :D hahaha

Well, dont think tadpoles are no edible... just havent seen and one eat it ... purposely.. hmmmm chincau had a look like it... :eek:

U never change your dog's drink? or does it give it a ummmph!... animals viagra?


cheers

hhtee
21-12-2006, 09:38 PM
guys, just to let you know, my dog has a funny character.

I change a bowl of CLEAN water for her everyday without fail. BUT she chooses to drink from tadpole filled potted plants !!

so I can't do much I guess.

You can bring the water to the bitch but you cannot make her drink it haha :D

starrnorth
22-12-2006, 01:53 AM
keep the tadpole and let them become frogs to do their job.

using chemical to kill them will cause enviromnetal damage.

cpleong
03-01-2007, 01:29 PM
I'm not talking about 10-20 frogs in my compound. One single nite itself, I can catch about 30 frogs, small and big, particularly just after it rained.

And when frogs breed, they do it in hundreds. Imagine letting them in a natural state for the next 5 years. I'm talking about some level of control, and have no wish to make them extinct. But there comes a point when you see that the growth can and will be exponential if there's no control ssystem in place.

I can't do tilapia or oscar, as the drain water is shallow (abt 1-2 inches of water), but sufficient for the frogsters to become monsters.

The manual way is to catch them like fishes, and they are damn difficult to catch in a 4 feet deep drain - and they dry them (I know it sounds yucky....)

The other option was chemical, but these things are damned hardy, and in one website, it suggests that you will need a concoction of different mixtures to kill them.

They've turned into toads now, and golfing them is not good either. They are not as still as a ball, unless dead or hiding under a stone (which means you can spoil your clubs!!).

Oh well, I guess I have to turn into the "night frog catcher" every few months to ensure the population is controlled.

Let me know if your sons/daughters need some frogs to be dissected over their biology class, or if you know someone who loves toads as a pet, that'll do as well.

still no cheers.

firefox
03-01-2007, 02:59 PM
normally frogs lay their eggs in stagnant and unpolutted water, but in running drains! i am bit confused..eggs would have been disappered with the following rainfall, maybe i missing something?

cpleong
03-01-2007, 04:52 PM
This is a running drain that is not well constructed, resulting in some parts of the drain holding water because part of the drain has sunken.

And of course, the rubbish/branches thrown in by people/contractors doesn't help water flow. Therefore, there will be stagnate water, and even when there's heavy rain, and the water flows, the tadpoles seek refuge in the rubbish piles which breaks the "drain current" and continues to call it home.

Hope that explains.

firefox
03-01-2007, 04:58 PM
Thanks CP Leong..just wondering with the heavy rainfall nowdays how these tadpoles can be in one place. Cheers

cpleong
03-01-2007, 09:57 PM
Cool -- just checked the drain today, and found that the tadpoles (or whatever remaining tadpoles there were), all became "cicak goreng".
The dry weather for the last few days dried up the drains and a budding archaelogist would be able to see fossils of dried tadpoles on concrete drain - hundreds of black specks dotting the drain.

Natural Attrition - the National Geographic way. Cool... no golfing needed, no chemical needed...good old mother nature took care of it.

This time got cheers la....
:)